This NEXT Bubble Is Going To Hurt!

[DarkFury]

william the wie AND Toddsterpatriot . Okay guys the NEXT bubble is auto loans and it will hit before the summer is over. MORE people are under water on their car loan than were home loans. A 5 year old Ford truck is simply not worth 50k on the market.

Cars were ALSO sold at below prime number. Car loans were ALSO bundled and re-sold just like home loans. Ford is killing it's ENTIRE car line except Mustang/SUV/ Ford trucks. It seems according to studies truck buyers have a lower default rate.2018 is the LAST year for the Towncar, the sedan is DEAD.

Jeep is switching to Fiat running gear, talk about going to shit. American cars are to OVER tech to OVER priced and to UNDER built. Dodge is gone okay? Dead for years. Ford is changing to save its ass. GM has been dropping models for years.

By the end of THIS decade there will only be ONE American car builder. Its FORCED globalization via the market. Right Dale Smith

Fury

 

[DarkFury]

Dale Smith Global control is not coming via war, global control is going to happen via the markets. That IS what these bubbles are, the silent coup. Shit Stain did not save GM, he merely picked the winner. It was fixed.
You can buy the ORIGINAL GM shares on the net for about a dollar. When the ORIGINAL share is barely worth toilet paper what was SAVED? Nothing and it was NEVER intended to save anything!

That makes the "bubbles" the lynch pin of the coup NOT the result OF. EVERY bubble re-centers the market and the "sides" are getting smaller and smaller.

 

[william the wie]

Way outside of my area of expertise. What I do know is that pipeline build out should cause a big price drop in oil within a year and somebody is likely to realize that a high speed rail built in prairie Trump country can get Trump reelected at relatively low cost and give the economy another big sugar high.

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Not to worry.... your tax dollars will bail them out....again.
By my last count General Motors subsidiaries have successfully filed bankruptcy 17 times.
But hey - GM has never filed bankruptcy!!

 

[DarkFury]

Way outside of my area of expertise. What I do know is that pipeline build out should cause a big price drop in oil within a year and somebody is likely to realize that a high speed rail built in prairie Trump country can get Trump reelected at relatively low cost and give the economy another big sugar high.

The price of oil will not stop the bubble. Its the sub prime loans they made. The market value of those units are fake. A stock NOT to have is going to be insurance. Easier to wreck a car on purpose than to burn down a house. and legal.

 

[Indeependent]

william the wie AND Toddsterpatriot . Okay guys the NEXT bubble is auto loans and it will hit before the summer is over. MORE people are under water on their car loan than were home loans. A 5 year old Ford truck is simply not worth 50k on the market.

Cars were ALSO sold at below prime number. Car loans were ALSO bundled and re-sold just like home loans. Ford is killing it's ENTIRE car line except Mustang/SUV/ Ford trucks. It seems according to studies truck buyers have a lower default rate.2018 is the LAST year for the Towncar, the sedan is DEAD.

Jeep is switching to Fiat running gear, talk about going to shit. American cars are to OVER tech to OVER priced and to UNDER built. Dodge is gone okay? Dead for years. Ford is changing to save its ass. GM has been dropping models for years.

By the end of THIS decade there will only be ONE American car builder. Its FORCED globalization via the market. Right Dale Smith

Fury

Where is the money coming from to finance these ridiculously low car loans?

 

[iamwhatiseem]

The weird thing I have been seeing lately is ridiculously low lease offers for new trucks.
Kinda hard to figure out how leasing a $38,000 truck for $199 a month for 2 years, with a $2000 sign on is making any profit. Total outlay is only $6800. There is no way a 2 year old truck with 28,000 mi. plus on it only loses $6,800 in depreciation.

 

[DarkFury]

william the wie AND Toddsterpatriot . Okay guys the NEXT bubble is auto loans and it will hit before the summer is over. MORE people are under water on their car loan than were home loans. A 5 year old Ford truck is simply not worth 50k on the market.

Cars were ALSO sold at below prime number. Car loans were ALSO bundled and re-sold just like home loans. Ford is killing it's ENTIRE car line except Mustang/SUV/ Ford trucks. It seems according to studies truck buyers have a lower default rate.2018 is the LAST year for the Towncar, the sedan is DEAD.

Jeep is switching to Fiat running gear, talk about going to shit. American cars are to OVER tech to OVER priced and to UNDER built. Dodge is gone okay? Dead for years. Ford is changing to save its ass. GM has been dropping models for years.

By the end of THIS decade there will only be ONE American car builder. Its FORCED globalization via the market. Right Dale Smith

Fury

Where is the money coming from to finance these ridiculously low car loans?

The ORINGINAL finance comes from the car builders. They then re-package to loans to be sold to credit investors.

 

[McRocket]

william the wie AND Toddsterpatriot . Okay guys the NEXT bubble is auto loans and it will hit before the summer is over. MORE people are under water on their car loan than were home loans. A 5 year old Ford truck is simply not worth 50k on the market.

Cars were ALSO sold at below prime number. Car loans were ALSO bundled and re-sold just like home loans. Ford is killing it's ENTIRE car line except Mustang/SUV/ Ford trucks. It seems according to studies truck buyers have a lower default rate.2018 is the LAST year for the Towncar, the sedan is DEAD.

Jeep is switching to Fiat running gear, talk about going to shit. American cars are to OVER tech to OVER priced and to UNDER built. Dodge is gone okay? Dead for years. Ford is changing to save its ass. GM has been dropping models for years.

By the end of THIS decade there will only be ONE American car builder. Its FORCED globalization via the market. Right Dale Smith

Fury

Where is the money coming from to finance these ridiculously low car loans?

The ORINGINAL finance comes from the car builders. They then re-package to loans to be sold to credit investors.

Where is your unbiased link to proof of this? Which auto manufacturers self-finance?

Lol... and it's 'original' and 'the'...not 'to'.

 

[DarkFury]

william the wie AND Toddsterpatriot . Okay guys the NEXT bubble is auto loans and it will hit before the summer is over. MORE people are under water on their car loan than were home loans. A 5 year old Ford truck is simply not worth 50k on the market.

Cars were ALSO sold at below prime number. Car loans were ALSO bundled and re-sold just like home loans. Ford is killing it's ENTIRE car line except Mustang/SUV/ Ford trucks. It seems according to studies truck buyers have a lower default rate.2018 is the LAST year for the Towncar, the sedan is DEAD.

Jeep is switching to Fiat running gear, talk about going to shit. American cars are to OVER tech to OVER priced and to UNDER built. Dodge is gone okay? Dead for years. Ford is changing to save its ass. GM has been dropping models for years.

By the end of THIS decade there will only be ONE American car builder. Its FORCED globalization via the market. Right Dale Smith

Fury

Where is the money coming from to finance these ridiculously low car loans?

The ORINGINAL finance comes from the car builders. They then re-package to loans to be sold to credit investors.

Where is your unbiased link to proof of this? Which auto manufacturers self-finance?

Lol... and it's 'original' and 'the'...not 'to'.

You are WAY over your head McStupid. Just bow out and shut up.

 

[McRocket]

william the wie AND Toddsterpatriot . Okay guys the NEXT bubble is auto loans and it will hit before the summer is over. MORE people are under water on their car loan than were home loans. A 5 year old Ford truck is simply not worth 50k on the market.

Cars were ALSO sold at below prime number. Car loans were ALSO bundled and re-sold just like home loans. Ford is killing it's ENTIRE car line except Mustang/SUV/ Ford trucks. It seems according to studies truck buyers have a lower default rate.2018 is the LAST year for the Towncar, the sedan is DEAD.

Jeep is switching to Fiat running gear, talk about going to shit. American cars are to OVER tech to OVER priced and to UNDER built. Dodge is gone okay? Dead for years. Ford is changing to save its ass. GM has been dropping models for years.

By the end of THIS decade there will only be ONE American car builder. Its FORCED globalization via the market. Right Dale Smith

Fury

Where is the money coming from to finance these ridiculously low car loans?

The ORINGINAL finance comes from the car builders. They then re-package to loans to be sold to credit investors.

Where is your unbiased link to proof of this? Which auto manufacturers self-finance?

Lol... and it's 'original' and 'the'...not 'to'.

You are WAY over your head McStupid. Just bow out and shut up.

Lol...this from a guy who clearly made up that Harley Davidson is taxed 1000% overseas.

You made the claim about the car manufacturers...so, where is your unbiased link to prove what you claimed?

You are making a fool of yourself, GayFury.

 

[william the wie]

A gigantic problem for auto makers worldwide is that the dollar is strengthening a lot and that means massive Emerging Markets bond defaults. A lot of money is being pulled out of the EMs. For example, China's debt load estimates start at 4GDPs and go up from there. That level of defaults is a major problem for the overseas plants of the big two.

 

[DarkFury]

william the wie AND Toddsterpatriot . Okay guys the NEXT bubble is auto loans and it will hit before the summer is over. MORE people are under water on their car loan than were home loans. A 5 year old Ford truck is simply not worth 50k on the market.

Cars were ALSO sold at below prime number. Car loans were ALSO bundled and re-sold just like home loans. Ford is killing it's ENTIRE car line except Mustang/SUV/ Ford trucks. It seems according to studies truck buyers have a lower default rate.2018 is the LAST year for the Towncar, the sedan is DEAD.

Jeep is switching to Fiat running gear, talk about going to shit. American cars are to OVER tech to OVER priced and to UNDER built. Dodge is gone okay? Dead for years. Ford is changing to save its ass. GM has been dropping models for years.

By the end of THIS decade there will only be ONE American car builder. Its FORCED globalization via the market. Right Dale Smith

Fury

Where is the money coming from to finance these ridiculously low car loans?

The ORINGINAL finance comes from the car builders. They then re-package to loans to be sold to credit investors.

Where is your unbiased link to proof of this? Which auto manufacturers self-finance?

Lol... and it's 'original' and 'the'...not 'to'.

You are WAY over your head McStupid. Just bow out and shut up.

Lol...this from a guy who clearly made up that Harley Davidson is taxed 1000% overseas.

You made the claim about the car manufacturers...so, where is your unbiased link to prove what you claimed?

You are making a fool of yourself, GayFury.

You have never heard of Ford credit? Or Toyota? See that IS the problem here, you are far to ignorant to educate. Now I'm going to put you on IGNORE so the thread smells better.
Good bye!!

 

[DarkFury]

A gigantic problem for auto makers worldwide is that the dollar is strengthening a lot and that means massive Emerging Markets bond defaults. A lot of money is being pulled out of the EMs. For example, China's debt load estimates start at 4GDPs and go up from there. That level of defaults is a major problem for the overseas plants of the big two.

Ford motors does not want to be stuck with the liabilty of Ford credit. By re-packaging those loans and selling them for less they get cash PLUS a tax write off right? So they get a short term influx with long term relief.
And the buyer winds up with junk bonds.

 

[McRocket]

Where is the money coming from to finance these ridiculously low car loans?

The ORINGINAL finance comes from the car builders. They then re-package to loans to be sold to credit investors.

Where is your unbiased link to proof of this? Which auto manufacturers self-finance?

Lol... and it's 'original' and 'the'...not 'to'.

You are WAY over your head McStupid. Just bow out and shut up.

Lol...this from a guy who clearly made up that Harley Davidson is taxed 1000% overseas.

You made the claim about the car manufacturers...so, where is your unbiased link to prove what you claimed?

You are making a fool of yourself, GayFury.

You have never heard of Ford credit? Or Toyota? See that IS the problem here, you are far to ignorant to educate. Now I'm going to put you on IGNORE so the thread smells better.
Good bye!!

I asked which auto builders? All you typed was 'the original finance comes from the car builders'.
Just becauae a car company says it self-finances - does not mean it actually does.
Fiat-Chrysler currently does it through Santander.

I realize several do. But several do not.

Plus, a huge percentage of car loans come from other sources.

So? Where is your link to statistics to verify your claims?
Or are you making things up again...GayFury?

Plus,

Terms of Service Violation

 

[McRocket]

The ORINGINAL finance comes from the car builders. They then re-package to loans to be sold to credit investors.

Where is your unbiased link to proof of this? Which auto manufacturers self-finance?

Lol... and it's 'original' and 'the'...not 'to'.

You are WAY over your head McStupid. Just bow out and shut up.

Lol...this from a guy who clearly made up that Harley Davidson is taxed 1000% overseas.

You made the claim about the car manufacturers...so, where is your unbiased link to prove what you claimed?

You are making a fool of yourself, GayFury.

You have never heard of Ford credit? Or Toyota? See that IS the problem here, you are far to ignorant to educate. Now I'm going to put you on IGNORE so the thread smells better.
Good bye!!

I asked which auto builders? All you typed was 'the original finance comes from the car builders'.
Just becauae a car company says it self-finances - does not mean it actually does.
Fiat-Chrysler currently does it through Santander.

I realize several do. But several do not.

Plus, a huge percentage of car loans come from other sources.

So? Where is your link to statistics to verify your claims?
Or are you making things up again...GayFury?

Plus,

Terms of Service Violation

So...you claim to ignore me GayFury. Yet you read my reply to you and then 'Smiled' on it?

So I guess you were lying about ignoring me as well.

So...I will ask you again...where is your unbiased links to back up your claims in this thread?

Or are you making them up again...like you did with your ridiculous claim that Harley Davidson is tariffed 1000% overseas?

 

[Marion Morrison]

Not a good time to buy a Ford truck, aye? Well that sucks, because I have to.

 

[DarkFury]

Not a good time to buy a Ford truck, aye? Well that sucks, because I have to.

FORD is keeping their truck line. The town car is dead. Jeep is going to be Fiat powered so that sucker is over.

 

[Marion Morrison]

Not a good time to buy a Ford truck, aye? Well that sucks, because I have to.

FORD is keeping their truck line. The town car is dead. Jeep is going to be Fiat powered so that sucker is over.

I thought Jeep is MOPAR now. I remember you used to could stick a Chevy engine in a Jeep.

 

[McRocket]

Not a good time to buy a Ford truck, aye? Well that sucks, because I have to.

FORD is keeping their truck line. The town car is dead. Jeep is going to be Fiat powered so that sucker is over.

Why do you keep babbling about the Town Car? It has been dead for 7 years...idiot.

Lincoln Town Car - Wikipedia