Time For A Purge

[Harpy Eagle]

Maybe they feel free to use the word during republican administrations but it's not a "purge". A purge is when you arrest (and execute?) disloyal political rivals. It's business as usual to fire employees when they were appointed by opposing administrations or they are found to be incompetent to deal with certain political agendas.

Employees of the Executive Branch take an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution. Not to blindly follow the orders of the POTUS.

Executive branch employees work solely at the pleasure of the President. Period.

That’s not true . Appointed department heads may fall under that , but the workers have rights . Especially unionized workers .

And that is the crux of the issue. They should either have civil service protections, or union protections, but not both.

We have created a newer version of the old Russian bureaucracy, with a new nobility working as the cogs of our government, unaccountable to anyone.

What would you rather have . Politician X swoop in and replace qualified experienced employees with all is dumb unqualified buddies? Which is what u see now .

I would like to see those qualified employees turn like the cogs they are supposed to be to the beat of the political winners of the last election.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of them are. For almost all Fed employees very little has changed except for better job security that is brought on by an across the board hiring freeze.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Maybe they feel free to use the word during republican administrations but it's not a "purge". A purge is when you arrest (and execute?) disloyal political rivals. It's business as usual to fire employees when they were appointed by opposing administrations or they are found to be incompetent to deal with certain political agendas.

Any Executive branch employee found to be undermining Trump's agenda needs a boot in the ass out the door.

Washington Bureaucrats Are Chipping Away at Trump’s Agenda

Employees of the Executive Branch take an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution. Not to blindly follow the orders of the POTUS.

Executive branch employees work solely at the pleasure of the President. Period.

That’s not true . Appointed department heads may fall under that , but the workers have rights . Especially unionized workers .

And that is the crux of the issue. They should either have civil service protections, or union protections, but not both.

We have created a newer version of the old Russian bureaucracy, with a new nobility working as the cogs of our government, unaccountable to anyone.

What would you rather have . Politician X swoop in and replace qualified experienced employees with all is dumb unqualified buddies? Which is what u see now .

Exactly,

The fascist wants to put yes men in positions of power over experience. It is to force idiocy on our society at all cost no matter how bad it is.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Maybe they feel free to use the word during republican administrations but it's not a "purge". A purge is when you arrest (and execute?) disloyal political rivals. It's business as usual to fire employees when they were appointed by opposing administrations or they are found to be incompetent to deal with certain political agendas.

Any Executive branch employee found to be undermining Trump's agenda needs a boot in the ass out the door.

Washington Bureaucrats Are Chipping Away at Trump’s Agenda

Employees of the Executive Branch take an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution. Not to blindly follow the orders of the POTUS.

Executive branch employees work solely at the pleasure of the President. Period.

That’s not true . Appointed department heads may fall under that , but the workers have rights . Especially unionized workers .

And that is the crux of the issue. They should either have civil service protections, or union protections, but not both.

We have created a newer version of the old Russian bureaucracy, with a new nobility working as the cogs of our government, unaccountable to anyone.

What would you rather have . Politician X swoop in and replace qualified experienced employees with all is dumb unqualified buddies? Which is what u see now .

What I see is a toxic swamp. Trump&Co are the 21st Century iteration of carpetbaggers, i.e. persons perceived as unscrupulous opportunists.

 

[martybegan]

Maybe they feel free to use the word during republican administrations but it's not a "purge". A purge is when you arrest (and execute?) disloyal political rivals. It's business as usual to fire employees when they were appointed by opposing administrations or they are found to be incompetent to deal with certain political agendas.

Executive branch employees work solely at the pleasure of the President. Period.

That’s not true . Appointed department heads may fall under that , but the workers have rights . Especially unionized workers .

And that is the crux of the issue. They should either have civil service protections, or union protections, but not both.

We have created a newer version of the old Russian bureaucracy, with a new nobility working as the cogs of our government, unaccountable to anyone.

What would you rather have . Politician X swoop in and replace qualified experienced employees with all is dumb unqualified buddies? Which is what u see now .

I would like to see those qualified employees turn like the cogs they are supposed to be to the beat of the political winners of the last election.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of them are. For almost all Fed employees very little has changed except for better job security that is brought on by an across the board hiring freeze.

By not following through on the new President's directives, they are most certainly not.

Again, if they think they are being told to do something unconstitutional, they have to report it to congress, the DOJ or the judiciary. They can't just not do it.

 

[martybegan]

Maybe they feel free to use the word during republican administrations but it's not a "purge". A purge is when you arrest (and execute?) disloyal political rivals. It's business as usual to fire employees when they were appointed by opposing administrations or they are found to be incompetent to deal with certain political agendas.

Employees of the Executive Branch take an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution. Not to blindly follow the orders of the POTUS.

Executive branch employees work solely at the pleasure of the President. Period.

That’s not true . Appointed department heads may fall under that , but the workers have rights . Especially unionized workers .

And that is the crux of the issue. They should either have civil service protections, or union protections, but not both.

We have created a newer version of the old Russian bureaucracy, with a new nobility working as the cogs of our government, unaccountable to anyone.

What would you rather have . Politician X swoop in and replace qualified experienced employees with all is dumb unqualified buddies? Which is what u see now .

Exactly,

The fascist wants to put yes men in positions of power over experience. It is to force idiocy on our society at all cost no matter how bad it is.

You idiots lost the election. Deal with it.

 

[martybegan]

Maybe they feel free to use the word during republican administrations but it's not a "purge". A purge is when you arrest (and execute?) disloyal political rivals. It's business as usual to fire employees when they were appointed by opposing administrations or they are found to be incompetent to deal with certain political agendas.

Employees of the Executive Branch take an oath of office to support and defend the Constitution. Not to blindly follow the orders of the POTUS.

Executive branch employees work solely at the pleasure of the President. Period.

That’s not true . Appointed department heads may fall under that , but the workers have rights . Especially unionized workers .

And that is the crux of the issue. They should either have civil service protections, or union protections, but not both.

We have created a newer version of the old Russian bureaucracy, with a new nobility working as the cogs of our government, unaccountable to anyone.

What would you rather have . Politician X swoop in and replace qualified experienced employees with all is dumb unqualified buddies? Which is what u see now .

What I see is a toxic swamp. Trump&Co are the 21st Century iteration of carpetbaggers, i.e. persons perceived as unscrupulous opportunists.

it figures a bureaucratic hack like you sees it that way. Trump won, he gets to decide how the executive branch works based on the legislation created by congress.

So if Obama ruled via executive order, Trump can remove those orders as he sees fit, and some unelected twat can't do squat about it, and just needs to turn the cogs to make it so.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Maybe they feel free to use the word during republican administrations but it's not a "purge". A purge is when you arrest (and execute?) disloyal political rivals. It's business as usual to fire employees when they were appointed by opposing administrations or they are found to be incompetent to deal with certain political agendas.

That’s not true . Appointed department heads may fall under that , but the workers have rights . Especially unionized workers .

And that is the crux of the issue. They should either have civil service protections, or union protections, but not both.

We have created a newer version of the old Russian bureaucracy, with a new nobility working as the cogs of our government, unaccountable to anyone.

What would you rather have . Politician X swoop in and replace qualified experienced employees with all is dumb unqualified buddies? Which is what u see now .

I would like to see those qualified employees turn like the cogs they are supposed to be to the beat of the political winners of the last election.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of them are. For almost all Fed employees very little has changed except for better job security that is brought on by an across the board hiring freeze.

By not following through on the new President's directives, they are most certainly not.

Again, if they think they are being told to do something unconstitutional, they have to report it to congress, the DOJ or the judiciary. They can't just not do it.

What percent of the Fed workforce do you think are impacted by the new directives? I would say about 5%, maybe.

 

[martybegan]

And that is the crux of the issue. They should either have civil service protections, or union protections, but not both.

We have created a newer version of the old Russian bureaucracy, with a new nobility working as the cogs of our government, unaccountable to anyone.

What would you rather have . Politician X swoop in and replace qualified experienced employees with all is dumb unqualified buddies? Which is what u see now .

I would like to see those qualified employees turn like the cogs they are supposed to be to the beat of the political winners of the last election.

The fact of the matter is that the vast majority of them are. For almost all Fed employees very little has changed except for better job security that is brought on by an across the board hiring freeze.

By not following through on the new President's directives, they are most certainly not.

Again, if they think they are being told to do something unconstitutional, they have to report it to congress, the DOJ or the judiciary. They can't just not do it.

What percent of the Fed workforce do you think are impacted by the new directives? I would say about 5%, maybe.

Then than 5% needs to do their job, complain to congress/DOJ/Courts or quit.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

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Stalin purged tens of millions (permanently) of those he considered disloyal. Like father, like son.

Stalin's sons? One died in a German concentration camp and the other by drinking himself to death.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Executive branch employees work solely at the pleasure of the President. Period.

Appointees, YES; Civil Service, NO.

The problem is some civil servants acting uncivilized.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Absolutely, the FBI has almost 40,000 employees - Fire them all and appoint 40,000 unqualified Trumplings to risk their lives and keep us safe.

I have a few nominees - We'll start with BILLY!

There are less than 14000 special agents.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Executive branch employees work solely at the pleasure of the President. Period.

Appointees, YES; Civil Service, NO.

The problem is some civil servants acting uncivilized.

Reading the posts from some non civil servants from your side of the aisle provide evidence they lack the civility to ever be hired as civil servant.