Time to put pressure on the GOP. . .

Which statement re the President is most accurate for you at this time?

  • I hate President Trump and won't support anything he supports.

  • I strongly dislike the President and will oppose his re-election.

  • I don't hate the President but I oppose most or all of his agenda.

  • I like the President but I oppose most or all of his agenda.

  • I find the President unlikable at times but I support most or all of his agenda.

  • I appreciate the President and I support most or all of his agenda.

  • Other that I have explained in my post.


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Looking at it from a purely objective standpoint, awhile back I came to the conclusion that Trump's biggest obstacle is not the Democrats.

In my opinion, I have come to expect the Democrats to be angry, vindictive, irresponsible, hypocritical, intellectually dishonest, malicious, hateful, obstructive no matter who they hurt or how bad for the country because frankly that's pretty much all they have offered lately. They certainly don't offer any kind of agenda that won't make things far worse for most Americans and hurt the country much more than it offers any kind of defensible positive solutions.

But it is timid, feckless, and mostly self-serving members of the permanent political class in the Republican Party that are most dangerous to making America great again. The Paul Ryans, the Mitch McConnells, the Mitt Romneys, and their ilk added to a few pure RINOs and an RNC that too often insults our intelligence instead of getting behind the President and helping him accomplish his agenda that are the President's worst hindrance. The status quo has enriched and empowered them greatly, and they seem determined not to upset it. And it is necessary to upset it in order to accomplish the President's agenda.

Those of us who really embrace the concept of MAGA, don't really care that the President is occasionally petulant, sometimes tweets a positively cringeworthy comment, and sometimes has an unlikable side. Or we do care but it isn't a deal breaker for us. We understand and believe in his vision and agenda and appreciate the bulldog terrier in him and his willingness to put up with unprecedented hateful and dishonest opposition as he looks for ways to get it done.

And it occurred to me that those of us who support that vision and agenda may have to start really putting the pressure on McConnell, et al, to get behind it.

When I ran across this essay today, it really spoke to how I have been thinking and feeling:

Richard Viguerie and Craig Shirley: Trump’s next battle: McConnell and the GOP Swamp

With the Mueller report in his rearview mirror . . .

Trump can now turn his full attention to his policy agenda and the 2020 elections. His most consequential hindrance in Washington in this regard won’t be Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, nor Democrat House committee chairs Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. Compared to the sophisticated Deep State attempt to take down the Trump presidency, Democrats in Congress will appear to Trump and his revved-up supporters as little more than a clown car show.

The next serious challenge Trump faces will be Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the GOP swamp that he leads . . .​

Unless those of us who want lasting peace, prosperity, law and order, individual liberty and incentive etc. have the back of the President and those who share his vision, I genuinely fear for the future of our country.

I only hope there are enough of us to re-elect President Trump by a landslide in 2020.

Do you agree that if we want the President to succeed we have to have his back? The back of those who support him and/or his agenda? Do you agree that we need to push all Republicans and what honorable Democrats remain to get behind that agenda? And we should work to elect those who do even if it means replacing Republicans who are more hindrance than help to the President's agenda?

The poll is public and multiple choice and allows for changes in choices checked.

Donald Trump is not a conservative while Ronald Reagan was. The fact is that Trump's support lies in right wing hate groups, white supremacists and neo-nazis. The rest go along because power is more important to them than principle.

The fact is that intelligent people do not support Trump. You people are the morons. The fact is that Trump has shattered the Reagan coalition. Reagan won among men and women. Among rural voters and suburban voters. Among people with high school educations and 4 year degrees. He also won among young voters. Trump has lost suburban voters, women, educated people and young voters. In 2018, Republicans lost Blacks, Hispanics and Asians.

Ronald Reagan stood for mainstream conservatism and he was a canny judge of character even when he ignored it. Ronald Reagan's first instinct was Jack Kemp or Paul Laxalt for VP. He had no respect for Bush's political skills and ultimately was proven right in Bush's lousy campaign in 1992. Trump's political instincts show how clueless and stupid he is. Ronald Reagan did not disparage people from the White House because he had too much respect for it.

Ronald Reagan got things done and he didn't need to use reconciliation to ram things through. He did not use policy for political retaliation against states that did not support him. He navigated moderate Republicans to pass his initial tax cuts and later worked with Democrats to get tax reform passed. He got rid of tax loopholes for the rich unlike the tax reform Republicans passed.

Having the back of Donald Trump means supporting far right wing animals. It means putting up with bigoted rhetoric towards Muslims, Hispanics and women. That is a bridge too far. Trump has likely lost Michigan and Pennsylvania which means they have to thread a needle. A poll in Arizona shows Biden with a 5 point lead which suggests Arizona likely will be very close. Texas polls have suggested a race between Trump and Biden would be similar to the O'Rourke-Cruz race.

Wow that's the biggest load of horse shit I've read in quite some time.

Reagan got things done just like Trump does. Both were members of the GOP.

Neither were politicians which is why they were and are so successful.

You really need to polish your I hate Trump badge and wear it. You sure are a whiny little shit.

Reagan was a governor for 8 years before becoming president. He tried to get the Republican nomination for president in 68 and 76. Then, of course, he was president for 2 terms. He certainly was a politician.
 
Reagan was a governor for 8 years before becoming president. He tried to get the Republican nomination for president in 68 and 76. Then, of course, he was president for 2 terms. He certainly was a politician.
Thank you.

If Republicans didn't lie, they'd have NOTHING to say!

They just make up crap...out of thin air.
 
Looking at it from a purely objective standpoint, awhile back I came to the conclusion that Trump's biggest obstacle is not the Democrats.

In my opinion, I have come to expect the Democrats to be angry, vindictive, irresponsible, hypocritical, intellectually dishonest, malicious, hateful, obstructive no matter who they hurt or how bad for the country because frankly that's pretty much all they have offered lately. They certainly don't offer any kind of agenda that won't make things far worse for most Americans and hurt the country much more than it offers any kind of defensible positive solutions.

But it is timid, feckless, and mostly self-serving members of the permanent political class in the Republican Party that are most dangerous to making America great again. The Paul Ryans, the Mitch McConnells, the Mitt Romneys, and their ilk added to a few pure RINOs and an RNC that too often insults our intelligence instead of getting behind the President and helping him accomplish his agenda that are the President's worst hindrance. The status quo has enriched and empowered them greatly, and they seem determined not to upset it. And it is necessary to upset it in order to accomplish the President's agenda.

Those of us who really embrace the concept of MAGA, don't really care that the President is occasionally petulant, sometimes tweets a positively cringeworthy comment, and sometimes has an unlikable side. Or we do care but it isn't a deal breaker for us. We understand and believe in his vision and agenda and appreciate the bulldog terrier in him and his willingness to put up with unprecedented hateful and dishonest opposition as he looks for ways to get it done.

And it occurred to me that those of us who support that vision and agenda may have to start really putting the pressure on McConnell, et al, to get behind it.

When I ran across this essay today, it really spoke to how I have been thinking and feeling:

Richard Viguerie and Craig Shirley: Trump’s next battle: McConnell and the GOP Swamp

With the Mueller report in his rearview mirror . . .

Trump can now turn his full attention to his policy agenda and the 2020 elections. His most consequential hindrance in Washington in this regard won’t be Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, nor Democrat House committee chairs Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. Compared to the sophisticated Deep State attempt to take down the Trump presidency, Democrats in Congress will appear to Trump and his revved-up supporters as little more than a clown car show.

The next serious challenge Trump faces will be Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the GOP swamp that he leads . . .​

Unless those of us who want lasting peace, prosperity, law and order, individual liberty and incentive etc. have the back of the President and those who share his vision, I genuinely fear for the future of our country.

I only hope there are enough of us to re-elect President Trump by a landslide in 2020.

Do you agree that if we want the President to succeed we have to have his back? The back of those who support him and/or his agenda? Do you agree that we need to push all Republicans and what honorable Democrats remain to get behind that agenda? And we should work to elect those who do even if it means replacing Republicans who are more hindrance than help to the President's agenda?

The poll is public and multiple choice and allows for changes in choices checked.

Donald Trump is not a conservative while Ronald Reagan was. The fact is that Trump's support lies in right wing hate groups, white supremacists and neo-nazis. The rest go along because power is more important to them than principle.

The fact is that intelligent people do not support Trump. You people are the morons. The fact is that Trump has shattered the Reagan coalition. Reagan won among men and women. Among rural voters and suburban voters. Among people with high school educations and 4 year degrees. He also won among young voters. Trump has lost suburban voters, women, educated people and young voters. In 2018, Republicans lost Blacks, Hispanics and Asians.

Ronald Reagan stood for mainstream conservatism and he was a canny judge of character even when he ignored it. Ronald Reagan's first instinct was Jack Kemp or Paul Laxalt for VP. He had no respect for Bush's political skills and ultimately was proven right in Bush's lousy campaign in 1992. Trump's political instincts show how clueless and stupid he is. Ronald Reagan did not disparage people from the White House because he had too much respect for it.

Ronald Reagan got things done and he didn't need to use reconciliation to ram things through. He did not use policy for political retaliation against states that did not support him. He navigated moderate Republicans to pass his initial tax cuts and later worked with Democrats to get tax reform passed. He got rid of tax loopholes for the rich unlike the tax reform Republicans passed.

Having the back of Donald Trump means supporting far right wing animals. It means putting up with bigoted rhetoric towards Muslims, Hispanics and women. That is a bridge too far. Trump has likely lost Michigan and Pennsylvania which means they have to thread a needle. A poll in Arizona shows Biden with a 5 point lead which suggests Arizona likely will be very close. Texas polls have suggested a race between Trump and Biden would be similar to the O'Rourke-Cruz race.

In b4 baby Trump in your head stabs your brain with fork 3x, making you say "ouch". Are we going to have to open up TDS hospitals? wtf?

Who's the president of the United States, moron?

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You are the one who has TDS. Your stupidity shows that.

The national nightmare will be over in 19 months.
 
Looking at it from a purely objective standpoint, awhile back I came to the conclusion that Trump's biggest obstacle is not the Democrats.

In my opinion, I have come to expect the Democrats to be angry, vindictive, irresponsible, hypocritical, intellectually dishonest, malicious, hateful, obstructive no matter who they hurt or how bad for the country because frankly that's pretty much all they have offered lately. They certainly don't offer any kind of agenda that won't make things far worse for most Americans and hurt the country much more than it offers any kind of defensible positive solutions.

But it is timid, feckless, and mostly self-serving members of the permanent political class in the Republican Party that are most dangerous to making America great again. The Paul Ryans, the Mitch McConnells, the Mitt Romneys, and their ilk added to a few pure RINOs and an RNC that too often insults our intelligence instead of getting behind the President and helping him accomplish his agenda that are the President's worst hindrance. The status quo has enriched and empowered them greatly, and they seem determined not to upset it. And it is necessary to upset it in order to accomplish the President's agenda.

Those of us who really embrace the concept of MAGA, don't really care that the President is occasionally petulant, sometimes tweets a positively cringeworthy comment, and sometimes has an unlikable side. Or we do care but it isn't a deal breaker for us. We understand and believe in his vision and agenda and appreciate the bulldog terrier in him and his willingness to put up with unprecedented hateful and dishonest opposition as he looks for ways to get it done.

And it occurred to me that those of us who support that vision and agenda may have to start really putting the pressure on McConnell, et al, to get behind it.

When I ran across this essay today, it really spoke to how I have been thinking and feeling:

Richard Viguerie and Craig Shirley: Trump’s next battle: McConnell and the GOP Swamp

With the Mueller report in his rearview mirror . . .

Trump can now turn his full attention to his policy agenda and the 2020 elections. His most consequential hindrance in Washington in this regard won’t be Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, nor Democrat House committee chairs Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. Compared to the sophisticated Deep State attempt to take down the Trump presidency, Democrats in Congress will appear to Trump and his revved-up supporters as little more than a clown car show.

The next serious challenge Trump faces will be Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the GOP swamp that he leads . . .​

Unless those of us who want lasting peace, prosperity, law and order, individual liberty and incentive etc. have the back of the President and those who share his vision, I genuinely fear for the future of our country.

I only hope there are enough of us to re-elect President Trump by a landslide in 2020.

Do you agree that if we want the President to succeed we have to have his back? The back of those who support him and/or his agenda? Do you agree that we need to push all Republicans and what honorable Democrats remain to get behind that agenda? And we should work to elect those who do even if it means replacing Republicans who are more hindrance than help to the President's agenda?

The poll is public and multiple choice and allows for changes in choices checked.

Donald Trump is not a conservative while Ronald Reagan was. The fact is that Trump's support lies in right wing hate groups, white supremacists and neo-nazis. The rest go along because power is more important to them than principle.

The fact is that intelligent people do not support Trump. You people are the morons. The fact is that Trump has shattered the Reagan coalition. Reagan won among men and women. Among rural voters and suburban voters. Among people with high school educations and 4 year degrees. He also won among young voters. Trump has lost suburban voters, women, educated people and young voters. In 2018, Republicans lost Blacks, Hispanics and Asians.

Ronald Reagan stood for mainstream conservatism and he was a canny judge of character even when he ignored it. Ronald Reagan's first instinct was Jack Kemp or Paul Laxalt for VP. He had no respect for Bush's political skills and ultimately was proven right in Bush's lousy campaign in 1992. Trump's political instincts show how clueless and stupid he is. Ronald Reagan did not disparage people from the White House because he had too much respect for it.

Ronald Reagan got things done and he didn't need to use reconciliation to ram things through. He did not use policy for political retaliation against states that did not support him. He navigated moderate Republicans to pass his initial tax cuts and later worked with Democrats to get tax reform passed. He got rid of tax loopholes for the rich unlike the tax reform Republicans passed.

Having the back of Donald Trump means supporting far right wing animals. It means putting up with bigoted rhetoric towards Muslims, Hispanics and women. That is a bridge too far. Trump has likely lost Michigan and Pennsylvania which means they have to thread a needle. A poll in Arizona shows Biden with a 5 point lead which suggests Arizona likely will be very close. Texas polls have suggested a race between Trump and Biden would be similar to the O'Rourke-Cruz race.

In b4 baby Trump in your head stabs your brain with fork 3x, making you say "ouch". Are we going to have to open up TDS hospitals? wtf?

Who's the president of the United States, moron?

View attachment 259831

You are the one who has TDS. Your stupidity shows that.

The national nightmare will be over in 19 months.

I hope it doesn't go that way. Then what?

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Looking at it from a purely objective standpoint, awhile back I came to the conclusion that Trump's biggest obstacle is not the Democrats.

In my opinion, I have come to expect the Democrats to be angry, vindictive, irresponsible, hypocritical, intellectually dishonest, malicious, hateful, obstructive no matter who they hurt or how bad for the country because frankly that's pretty much all they have offered lately. They certainly don't offer any kind of agenda that won't make things far worse for most Americans and hurt the country much more than it offers any kind of defensible positive solutions.

But it is timid, feckless, and mostly self-serving members of the permanent political class in the Republican Party that are most dangerous to making America great again. The Paul Ryans, the Mitch McConnells, the Mitt Romneys, and their ilk added to a few pure RINOs and an RNC that too often insults our intelligence instead of getting behind the President and helping him accomplish his agenda that are the President's worst hindrance. The status quo has enriched and empowered them greatly, and they seem determined not to upset it. And it is necessary to upset it in order to accomplish the President's agenda.

Those of us who really embrace the concept of MAGA, don't really care that the President is occasionally petulant, sometimes tweets a positively cringeworthy comment, and sometimes has an unlikable side. Or we do care but it isn't a deal breaker for us. We understand and believe in his vision and agenda and appreciate the bulldog terrier in him and his willingness to put up with unprecedented hateful and dishonest opposition as he looks for ways to get it done.

And it occurred to me that those of us who support that vision and agenda may have to start really putting the pressure on McConnell, et al, to get behind it.

When I ran across this essay today, it really spoke to how I have been thinking and feeling:

Richard Viguerie and Craig Shirley: Trump’s next battle: McConnell and the GOP Swamp

With the Mueller report in his rearview mirror . . .

Trump can now turn his full attention to his policy agenda and the 2020 elections. His most consequential hindrance in Washington in this regard won’t be Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, nor Democrat House committee chairs Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. Compared to the sophisticated Deep State attempt to take down the Trump presidency, Democrats in Congress will appear to Trump and his revved-up supporters as little more than a clown car show.

The next serious challenge Trump faces will be Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the GOP swamp that he leads . . .​

Unless those of us who want lasting peace, prosperity, law and order, individual liberty and incentive etc. have the back of the President and those who share his vision, I genuinely fear for the future of our country.

I only hope there are enough of us to re-elect President Trump by a landslide in 2020.

Do you agree that if we want the President to succeed we have to have his back? The back of those who support him and/or his agenda? Do you agree that we need to push all Republicans and what honorable Democrats remain to get behind that agenda? And we should work to elect those who do even if it means replacing Republicans who are more hindrance than help to the President's agenda?

The poll is public and multiple choice and allows for changes in choices checked.

Donald Trump is not a conservative while Ronald Reagan was. The fact is that Trump's support lies in right wing hate groups, white supremacists and neo-nazis. The rest go along because power is more important to them than principle.

The fact is that intelligent people do not support Trump. You people are the morons. The fact is that Trump has shattered the Reagan coalition. Reagan won among men and women. Among rural voters and suburban voters. Among people with high school educations and 4 year degrees. He also won among young voters. Trump has lost suburban voters, women, educated people and young voters. In 2018, Republicans lost Blacks, Hispanics and Asians.

Ronald Reagan stood for mainstream conservatism and he was a canny judge of character even when he ignored it. Ronald Reagan's first instinct was Jack Kemp or Paul Laxalt for VP. He had no respect for Bush's political skills and ultimately was proven right in Bush's lousy campaign in 1992. Trump's political instincts show how clueless and stupid he is. Ronald Reagan did not disparage people from the White House because he had too much respect for it.

Ronald Reagan got things done and he didn't need to use reconciliation to ram things through. He did not use policy for political retaliation against states that did not support him. He navigated moderate Republicans to pass his initial tax cuts and later worked with Democrats to get tax reform passed. He got rid of tax loopholes for the rich unlike the tax reform Republicans passed.

Having the back of Donald Trump means supporting far right wing animals. It means putting up with bigoted rhetoric towards Muslims, Hispanics and women. That is a bridge too far. Trump has likely lost Michigan and Pennsylvania which means they have to thread a needle. A poll in Arizona shows Biden with a 5 point lead which suggests Arizona likely will be very close. Texas polls have suggested a race between Trump and Biden would be similar to the O'Rourke-Cruz race.

Wow that's the biggest load of horse shit I've read in quite some time.

Reagan got things done just like Trump does. Both were members of the GOP.

Neither were politicians which is why they were and are so successful.

You really need to polish your I hate Trump badge and wear it. You sure are a whiny little shit.

Reagan was a governor for 8 years before becoming president. He tried to get the Republican nomination for president in 68 and 76. Then, of course, he was president for 2 terms. He certainly was a politician.

Oh I don't think he was a real politician. He played the part but he was much smarter and he really knew how to get things done.
 
Looking at it from a purely objective standpoint, awhile back I came to the conclusion that Trump's biggest obstacle is not the Democrats.

In my opinion, I have come to expect the Democrats to be angry, vindictive, irresponsible, hypocritical, intellectually dishonest, malicious, hateful, obstructive no matter who they hurt or how bad for the country because frankly that's pretty much all they have offered lately. They certainly don't offer any kind of agenda that won't make things far worse for most Americans and hurt the country much more than it offers any kind of defensible positive solutions.

But it is timid, feckless, and mostly self-serving members of the permanent political class in the Republican Party that are most dangerous to making America great again. The Paul Ryans, the Mitch McConnells, the Mitt Romneys, and their ilk added to a few pure RINOs and an RNC that too often insults our intelligence instead of getting behind the President and helping him accomplish his agenda that are the President's worst hindrance. The status quo has enriched and empowered them greatly, and they seem determined not to upset it. And it is necessary to upset it in order to accomplish the President's agenda.

Those of us who really embrace the concept of MAGA, don't really care that the President is occasionally petulant, sometimes tweets a positively cringeworthy comment, and sometimes has an unlikable side. Or we do care but it isn't a deal breaker for us. We understand and believe in his vision and agenda and appreciate the bulldog terrier in him and his willingness to put up with unprecedented hateful and dishonest opposition as he looks for ways to get it done.

And it occurred to me that those of us who support that vision and agenda may have to start really putting the pressure on McConnell, et al, to get behind it.

When I ran across this essay today, it really spoke to how I have been thinking and feeling:

Richard Viguerie and Craig Shirley: Trump’s next battle: McConnell and the GOP Swamp

With the Mueller report in his rearview mirror . . .

Trump can now turn his full attention to his policy agenda and the 2020 elections. His most consequential hindrance in Washington in this regard won’t be Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, nor Democrat House committee chairs Adam Schiff, D-Calif., and Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y. Compared to the sophisticated Deep State attempt to take down the Trump presidency, Democrats in Congress will appear to Trump and his revved-up supporters as little more than a clown car show.

The next serious challenge Trump faces will be Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and the GOP swamp that he leads . . .​

Unless those of us who want lasting peace, prosperity, law and order, individual liberty and incentive etc. have the back of the President and those who share his vision, I genuinely fear for the future of our country.

I only hope there are enough of us to re-elect President Trump by a landslide in 2020.

Do you agree that if we want the President to succeed we have to have his back? The back of those who support him and/or his agenda? Do you agree that we need to push all Republicans and what honorable Democrats remain to get behind that agenda? And we should work to elect those who do even if it means replacing Republicans who are more hindrance than help to the President's agenda?

The poll is public and multiple choice and allows for changes in choices checked.

Donald Trump is not a conservative while Ronald Reagan was. The fact is that Trump's support lies in right wing hate groups, white supremacists and neo-nazis. The rest go along because power is more important to them than principle.

The fact is that intelligent people do not support Trump. You people are the morons. The fact is that Trump has shattered the Reagan coalition. Reagan won among men and women. Among rural voters and suburban voters. Among people with high school educations and 4 year degrees. He also won among young voters. Trump has lost suburban voters, women, educated people and young voters. In 2018, Republicans lost Blacks, Hispanics and Asians.

Ronald Reagan stood for mainstream conservatism and he was a canny judge of character even when he ignored it. Ronald Reagan's first instinct was Jack Kemp or Paul Laxalt for VP. He had no respect for Bush's political skills and ultimately was proven right in Bush's lousy campaign in 1992. Trump's political instincts show how clueless and stupid he is. Ronald Reagan did not disparage people from the White House because he had too much respect for it.

Ronald Reagan got things done and he didn't need to use reconciliation to ram things through. He did not use policy for political retaliation against states that did not support him. He navigated moderate Republicans to pass his initial tax cuts and later worked with Democrats to get tax reform passed. He got rid of tax loopholes for the rich unlike the tax reform Republicans passed.

Having the back of Donald Trump means supporting far right wing animals. It means putting up with bigoted rhetoric towards Muslims, Hispanics and women. That is a bridge too far. Trump has likely lost Michigan and Pennsylvania which means they have to thread a needle. A poll in Arizona shows Biden with a 5 point lead which suggests Arizona likely will be very close. Texas polls have suggested a race between Trump and Biden would be similar to the O'Rourke-Cruz race.

In b4 baby Trump in your head stabs your brain with fork 3x, making you say "ouch". Are we going to have to open up TDS hospitals? wtf?

Who's the president of the United States, moron?

View attachment 259831

You are the one who has TDS. Your stupidity shows that.

The national nightmare will be over in 19 months.

Nah. The country will prosper and Trump will have another four years so you can moan, groan and complain.

Seems you have no use for a prosperous country. Maybe you should move to Mexico??
 
He has torn the country apart, and has left it open to it's enemies, and namely one of it's greatest enemies.

Him being there can only lead to disaster.


SERIOUSLY.

The LEFT have torn the country wide apart in their hate, in boycotting Trump's inauguration, before the guy had even done one thing you were already polarizing the country. And when Trump tried to put just a TEMPORARY freeze on people coming in from terrorist countries, YOU TRIED TO STOP HIM, when he tried to secure the southern border, YOU TRIED TO STOP HIM, leaving us wide open to our enemies.

If we have any problem, it is the New Left. The best for us right now is to take all Radical Leftists and round them up into concentration camps like we did with the Japanese until we can sort out who is dangerous and who is merely an idiot.

80% of this nation's problems would immediately resolve.

SERIOUSLY YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND

Trump is the one who is tearing this country apart. He is only worried about being President to the people who support him. That is what getting rid of state and local tax deductions was all about. Screwing his political opponents. You are the ones who hate. Who have attacked synagogues and mosques. Who target people for their religion then claim victimhood for Christians.

The fact is that white supremacists, neo-nazis and other far right wing people need to be put into concentration camps. They have attacked mosques, synagogues, sent bombs through the mail, and stockpiled weapons while plotting to kill their political opponents,.
 
He has torn the country apart, and has left it open to it's enemies, and namely one of it's greatest enemies.

Him being there can only lead to disaster.


SERIOUSLY.

The LEFT have torn the country wide apart in their hate, in boycotting Trump's inauguration, before the guy had even done one thing you were already polarizing the country. And when Trump tried to put just a TEMPORARY freeze on people coming in from terrorist countries, YOU TRIED TO STOP HIM, when he tried to secure the southern border, YOU TRIED TO STOP HIM, leaving us wide open to our enemies.

If we have any problem, it is the New Left. The best for us right now is to take all Radical Leftists and round them up into concentration camps like we did with the Japanese until we can sort out who is dangerous and who is merely an idiot.

80% of this nation's problems would immediately resolve.

SERIOUSLY YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR MIND

Trump is the one who is tearing this country apart. He is only worried about being President to the people who support him. That is what getting rid of state and local tax deductions was all about. Screwing his political opponents. You are the ones who hate. Who have attacked synagogues and mosques. Who target people for their religion then claim victimhood for Christians.

The fact is that white supremacists, neo-nazis and other far right wing people need to be put into concentration camps. They have attacked mosques, synagogues, sent bombs through the mail, and stockpiled weapons while plotting to kill their political opponents,.

Well for a torn apart country we are doing damned well.

A great economy. UE the lowest its been in 50 years and jobs all across the country.

If this is your lefty loon idea of a torn up country you should move to Mexico and get a look at a real torn up country.

Believe me. No one would miss your stupid ass.
 
One hopes that the anti-Trumpers within the GOP get axed in the next primary. Some have retired and some ought to be replaced if they aren't willing to put the best interests of their country ahead of their own personal goals. And the same goes for the Dems, enough of the BS Green New Deal. Get real or get out, one wonders how much longer the Dems can continue down this non-sensical path.

What if the "anti-Trumpers" believe that what they do is in the best interests of the country? You seem to be saying that only agreeing with Trump could be in the best interests of the country. :dunno:

If a member of Congress is opposing this or that Trump policy cuz he or she believes the policy is wrong or not in the best interests of the country or because he or she believes his or her constituents want him or her to oppose it, then fine. But these days I am not sure how many in either party support or oppose any policy or position based on those reasons, or is it something else? Like how does this affect my chances for re-election? Or, how much money am I going to get or lose for my campaign fund? Or worse, how much will I or a family member or friend/supporter gain or lose?

When I see pols who were for something and now they are against it, it's kinda hard to convince me that they are doing what is best for the country. And both sides are guilty of this I think. Sides and positions are switched depending in part on who's in the majority and who's in the WH. I may be wrong, but I do believe that most polls these days indicate that most Americans do not trust their gov't and do not believe they are working in our best interests instead of theirs.
 
white supremacists, neo-nazis and other far right wing people need to be put into concentration camps.

Yep. But I could count all those people on my fingers. What happens when even the neo-nazis try to hold a peaceful rally out in some park? They are attacked by the warring Antifa who make it into a gang fight. Nothing like the radial left antifa militia infesting our government, schools and industry. The Left are America's HATE GROUP and they have made that very plain the day they even hated Trump so much before he had done a thing they boycotted his swearing in.


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I mainly support the president in his involuntary policy of NOT being Hillary Clinton.

We dodged a huge bullet. All else is gravy.

To impeach him for allegedly obstructing an investigation into something that is not a crime seems a bit coup-ish.

.

You can't find something in his agenda or accomplishments to date to appreciate, get behind, support?

I cant as of this point. Every time he seens as if he will offer something I could support (which is rare) he reverses or lies. Most of his agenda is too far to the right and my feelings on the Reoubs and Trump pretty much ech yours on the Dems. Most of the presidents positions are the antithesis of mine and destroying our country.

You oppose more money in the pockets of working Americans?

You oppose efforts to stop the crisis on the border?

You oppose great numbers in increases in construction and manufacturing jobs that are the backbone of a healthy and lasting good economy?

You oppose millions of people having good paying full time jobs with benefits again instead of making do on fewer hours than they need or working multiple part time jobs?

You oppose trade deals that give American a fair deal?

You oppose record or near record unemployment numbers in virtually EVERY category, men, women, minorities, high school grads, high school drop outs that anybody in the world would envy and that are pulling people out of poverty, off food stamps, increasing individual and family income and wealth with lower income people seeing the greatest advances?

You oppose strengthening our military which is the world's best chance for lasting peace?

I'm sorry but the only ones I see as intent on destroying the country are those who would do away with all that out of their hatred for President Trump.

Do working Americans have more money, and is it an increase greater than seen under other administrations?

One can oppose the particular efforts being used without being opposed to improving border security. :dunno:

Are there "great numbers in increases in construction and manufacturing jobs"? I haven't seen anything indicating some sort of large increase recently, but I haven't been looking for it. If there are such increases, was it Trump who caused it to happen, and how?

Are there millions of people who did not have full time jobs under the previous administration who do now? Are there millions more people now than under the previous administration with full time jobs? If so, how is Trump responsible?

One can disagree that the trade deals made under this administration "give America[n] a fair deal." :dunno:

How is Trump responsible for low unemployment numbers?

One can certainly disagree that strengthening the US military "is the world's best chance for lasting peace."

Do you honestly think that opposing Trump means one is "intent on destroying the country"?

Your questions are based on conclusions that, clearly, not everyone will agree with. They may not be quite as leading as 'When did you stop beating your wife?', but it's the same idea. They aren't asking an opinion about any particular policy, they start with the basis that certain things are true and good, then question why someone doesn't want those good things.

Opposing the policies promoted by the president doesn't mean someone must be intent on destroying the country, nor does it mean they oppose the various conclusions you've made in your questions.

I also think that the credit you seem to be giving the president for various characteristics or statistics about the country is indicative of how the executive branch has gotten too much power over the years. Put simply, I was under the impression that the executive's job was the enforcement of policy, but so many in the country seem to think the executive is responsible for creating policy, as well. I sometimes wonder how many US citizens would actually be comfortable eliminating Congress altogether and just putting the legislative power in the executive.

I don't like Trump. He's a ridiculous braggart. That doesn't mean I can't support the same policies he does, though. Unfortunately, despite how often people like to say he's not a politician, he seems very much like a politician to me. He's just more of a raw, unpolished one. Like other presidents before him, I don't see any particular reason to believe he's truly concerned with the country or its citizens, rather than himself.

In response to busybee01 and you, Trump is no partisan--he'll pretty much work with anybody who supports a common cause. It just isn't in his wheelhouse to not accept cooperation from somebody just because he doesn't like that somebody.

Trump doesn't see things in black and white. He'll take half a loaf as a start to get to a goal but he has the courage to walk away from the table rather than agree to a bad deal. He sees that even somebody who is mostly wrong can occasionally get it right. Somebody who is mostly bad sometimes can do good. Who and what people are here and now carry much more weight with him than what they once were or what they once did or said or belonged to or whatever. He allows people to be better than they once were. He doesn't dig up old bones and he doesn't seem to carry grudges. He is pretty remarkable in that way even when he is sometimes unlikable.

Trump is no ideologue. He doesn't see everything on the left as evil and he doesn't see everything on the right as commendable. If Maxine Waters or Adam Schiff or anybody else who has damned him and worked diligently to destroy him came to him today and offered their support for an initiative he wants to get through, he would accept that support and work on a deal. He is remarkable that way too.

But his track record pretty well speaks for itself:

As of this past weekend:

--Since January 2017, the economy has added 669,000 construction jobs and an amazing 479,000 manufacturing jobs that some said would never come back and going on 5 million new jobs overall. Many others have become full time jobs with benefits again instead of mostly part time jobs. April 2019 marked the 14th consecutive month of unemployment at or below 4% (traditionally considered full employment.)

--Unemployment for women: lowest rate since 1953.

--Unemployment for Hispanics: 4.2% possibly a record low. (It had risen to as much as 13% in the Obama administration.) Unemployment for African Americans is at its lowest rate ever.

--Unemployment for high school graduates--no college--for teens, for high school drop outs at record lows.

--Unemployment for veterans 2.3%, a record low. Unemployment for Americans with a disability is also at a record low.

And, thanks to all those great construction and manufacturing jobs, as opposed to white collar jobs, the percentage of wage increases for blue collar jobs has been about twice that as for white collar jobs.

Millions no longer need food stamps. Family incomes are rising at a respectable noninflationary rate again instead of declining. The economy is booming without remarkable inflation much more dramatically than it did even during the Reagan years. Trump policies have boosted business and consumer confidence and encouraged people to improve their circumstances as pretty much no President has done in our lifetime or even before that.

Even the rabid anti-Trump Washington Post concedes he has added $10 trillion to the economy via bringing capital back from overseas and encouraging sidelined capital to be put back to work.

For the life of me I don't see how the left justifies its vitriol and desire to kill the golden goose and take a chance on reversing all that.
 
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Reagan was a governor for 8 years before becoming president. He tried to get the Republican nomination for president in 68 and 76. Then, of course, he was president for 2 terms. He certainly was a politician.
Thank you.

If Republicans didn't lie, they'd have NOTHING to say!

They just make up crap...out of thin air.

Your partisan generalization is not helping anything.
 
One hopes that the anti-Trumpers within the GOP get axed in the next primary. Some have retired and some ought to be replaced if they aren't willing to put the best interests of their country ahead of their own personal goals. And the same goes for the Dems, enough of the BS Green New Deal. Get real or get out, one wonders how much longer the Dems can continue down this non-sensical path.

What if the "anti-Trumpers" believe that what they do is in the best interests of the country? You seem to be saying that only agreeing with Trump could be in the best interests of the country. :dunno:

If a member of Congress is opposing this or that Trump policy cuz he or she believes the policy is wrong or not in the best interests of the country or because he or she believes his or her constituents want him or her to oppose it, then fine. But these days I am not sure how many in either party support or oppose any policy or position based on those reasons, or is it something else? Like how does this affect my chances for re-election? Or, how much money am I going to get or lose for my campaign fund? Or worse, how much will I or a family member or friend/supporter gain or lose?

When I see pols who were for something and now they are against it, it's kinda hard to convince me that they are doing what is best for the country. And both sides are guilty of this I think. Sides and positions are switched depending in part on who's in the majority and who's in the WH. I may be wrong, but I do believe that most polls these days indicate that most Americans do not trust their gov't and do not believe they are working in our best interests instead of theirs.

That's pretty much my default belief when it comes to the motives of our federal representatives. :lol:
 
One hopes that the anti-Trumpers within the GOP get axed in the next primary. Some have retired and some ought to be replaced if they aren't willing to put the best interests of their country ahead of their own personal goals. And the same goes for the Dems, enough of the BS Green New Deal. Get real or get out, one wonders how much longer the Dems can continue down this non-sensical path.

What if the "anti-Trumpers" believe that what they do is in the best interests of the country? You seem to be saying that only agreeing with Trump could be in the best interests of the country. :dunno:

If a member of Congress is opposing this or that Trump policy cuz he or she believes the policy is wrong or not in the best interests of the country or because he or she believes his or her constituents want him or her to oppose it, then fine. But these days I am not sure how many in either party support or oppose any policy or position based on those reasons, or is it something else? Like how does this affect my chances for re-election? Or, how much money am I going to get or lose for my campaign fund? Or worse, how much will I or a family member or friend/supporter gain or lose?

When I see pols who were for something and now they are against it, it's kinda hard to convince me that they are doing what is best for the country. And both sides are guilty of this I think. Sides and positions are switched depending in part on who's in the majority and who's in the WH. I may be wrong, but I do believe that most polls these days indicate that most Americans do not trust their gov't and do not believe they are working in our best interests instead of theirs.

What you are describing is a permanent political class that are in it for their own personal benefit and not for those who put them there.

Why I think they hate President Trump so much apart from the fact that he beat their nominee who was supposed to be a shoo in?

1. President Trump is not a politician.

2. President Trump is non partisan.

3. President Trump is not an ideologue.

4. President Trump thumbs his nose at political correctness.

5. President Trump gives no respect to a status quo that has not been producing the results it is supposed to.

6. President Trump sets his objective and goal and then goes from Plan A to B or C or however many different plans it takes to achieve the desired outcome. He doesn't easily take no for an answer, he isn't afraid to try no matter how many say it can't be done, and he isn't afraid to fail along the way until the right solution or fix is found, and if it is important to him, he doesn't quit. (He will sometimes withdraw, regroup, and recalculate before trying again.)

7. President Trump is determined to do the job he set out to do and whether he does it out of ego or an honest desire to help America and Americans, it doesn't matter. He intends to get it done and he has kept campaign promises more faithfully and in actuality than ANY President in my now very long lifetime.

If he is sometimes petulant, petty, cringeworthy, unlikable at times, well that's a small price to pay to get somebody who actually wants to do the job. So I want to keep him.

He is the exact opposite of the professional political class and is a danger to their existance. And that is why they and their supporters in both parties hate him.
 
I mainly support the president in his involuntary policy of NOT being Hillary Clinton.

We dodged a huge bullet. All else is gravy.

To impeach him for allegedly obstructing an investigation into something that is not a crime seems a bit coup-ish.

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You can't find something in his agenda or accomplishments to date to appreciate, get behind, support?

I cant as of this point. Every time he seens as if he will offer something I could support (which is rare) he reverses or lies. Most of his agenda is too far to the right and my feelings on the Reoubs and Trump pretty much ech yours on the Dems. Most of the presidents positions are the antithesis of mine and destroying our country.

You oppose more money in the pockets of working Americans?

You oppose efforts to stop the crisis on the border?

You oppose great numbers in increases in construction and manufacturing jobs that are the backbone of a healthy and lasting good economy?

You oppose millions of people having good paying full time jobs with benefits again instead of making do on fewer hours than they need or working multiple part time jobs?

You oppose trade deals that give American a fair deal?

You oppose record or near record unemployment numbers in virtually EVERY category, men, women, minorities, high school grads, high school drop outs that anybody in the world would envy and that are pulling people out of poverty, off food stamps, increasing individual and family income and wealth with lower income people seeing the greatest advances?

You oppose strengthening our military which is the world's best chance for lasting peace?

I'm sorry but the only ones I see as intent on destroying the country are those who would do away with all that out of their hatred for President Trump.

Do working Americans have more money, and is it an increase greater than seen under other administrations?

One can oppose the particular efforts being used without being opposed to improving border security. :dunno:

Are there "great numbers in increases in construction and manufacturing jobs"? I haven't seen anything indicating some sort of large increase recently, but I haven't been looking for it. If there are such increases, was it Trump who caused it to happen, and how?

Are there millions of people who did not have full time jobs under the previous administration who do now? Are there millions more people now than under the previous administration with full time jobs? If so, how is Trump responsible?

One can disagree that the trade deals made under this administration "give America[n] a fair deal." :dunno:

How is Trump responsible for low unemployment numbers?

One can certainly disagree that strengthening the US military "is the world's best chance for lasting peace."

Do you honestly think that opposing Trump means one is "intent on destroying the country"?

Your questions are based on conclusions that, clearly, not everyone will agree with. They may not be quite as leading as 'When did you stop beating your wife?', but it's the same idea. They aren't asking an opinion about any particular policy, they start with the basis that certain things are true and good, then question why someone doesn't want those good things.

Opposing the policies promoted by the president doesn't mean someone must be intent on destroying the country, nor does it mean they oppose the various conclusions you've made in your questions.

I also think that the credit you seem to be giving the president for various characteristics or statistics about the country is indicative of how the executive branch has gotten too much power over the years. Put simply, I was under the impression that the executive's job was the enforcement of policy, but so many in the country seem to think the executive is responsible for creating policy, as well. I sometimes wonder how many US citizens would actually be comfortable eliminating Congress altogether and just putting the legislative power in the executive.

I don't like Trump. He's a ridiculous braggart. That doesn't mean I can't support the same policies he does, though. Unfortunately, despite how often people like to say he's not a politician, he seems very much like a politician to me. He's just more of a raw, unpolished one. Like other presidents before him, I don't see any particular reason to believe he's truly concerned with the country or its citizens, rather than himself.

In response to busybee01 and you, Trump is no partisan--he'll pretty much work with anybody who supports a common cause. It just isn't in his wheelhouse to not accept cooperation from somebody just because he doesn't like that somebody.

Trump doesn't see things in black and white. He'll take half a loaf as a start to get to a goal. He sees that even somebody who is mostly wrong can occasionally get it right. Somebody who is mostly bad sometimes can do good. Who and what people are here and now carry much more weight with him than what they once were or what they once did or said or belonged to or whatever. He allows people to be better than they once were. He doesn't dig up old bones and he doesn't seem to carry grudges. He is pretty remarkable in that way even when he is sometimes unlikable.

Trump is no ideologue. He doesn't see everything on the left as evil and he doesn't see everything on the right as commendable. If Maxine Waters or Adam Schiff or anybody else who has damned him and worked diligently to destroy him came to him today and offered their support for an initiative he wants to get through, he would accept that support and work on a deal. He is remarkable that way too.

But his track record pretty well speaks for itself:

As of this past weekend:

--Since January 2017, the economy has added 669,000 construction jobs and an amazing 479,000 manufacturing jobs that some said would never come back. April 2019 marked the 14th consecutive month of unemployment at or below 4% (traditionally considered full employment.)

--Unemployment for women: lowest rate since 1953.

--Unemployment for Hispanics: 4.2% possibly a record low. (It had risen to as much as 13% in the Obama administration.) Unemployment for African Americans is at its lowest rate ever.

--Unemployment for high school graduates--no college--for teens, for high school drop outs at record lows.

--Unemployment for veterans 2.3%, a record low. Unemployment for Americans with a disability is also at a record low.

And, thanks to all those great construction and manufacturing jobs, as opposed to white collar jobs, the percentage of wage increases for blue collar jobs has been about twice that as for white collar jobs.

Millions no longer need food stamps. Family incomes are rising at a respectable noninflationary rate again instead of declining. The economy is booming without remarkable inflation much more dramatically than it did even during the Reagan years. Trump policies have boosted business and consumer confidence and encouraged people to improve their circumstances as pretty much no President has done in our lifetime or even before that.

For the life of me I don't see how the left justifies its vitriol and desire to kill the golden goose and take a chance on reversing all that.

What makes those economic statistics in any way Trump's record? Or the economic statistics the record of any president? To me it seems like giving presidents credit for things which are, in many ways, outside of their control.

I'd also like to know the specifics you are using when you speak of "all those great construction and manufacturing jobs." Has there been a sharp increase in such jobs since Trump took office? How are they due to something Trump did? Where are you getting the numbers? Is it truly amazing that there are as many more of those jobs, or is it part of a trend that began before Trump even entered office? I don't know.

While fewer people are using food stamps, is that due to Trump? Again, is it giving a president credit for something he does not actually control? I feel the same way about Obama, Bush, Clinton, any president. If the economy is the reason for fewer food stamp recipients, is that because of the president, and not the free market, or Congress, or the world economy, but rather executive policy?

While I think that partisan politics plays a large role in why those on the left of the political spectrum oppose anything from this administration, that doesn't mean that someone can't honestly believe that the policies and actions of the administration are bad for the country.

Trump may not see everything on the left as evil, but he seems perfectly happy to push that sort of narrative. He's made many comments demonizing Democrats or 'the left.' He has been playing the same partisan games as our other representatives and officials.

You say Trump is remarkable because he would accept support from politicians who have opposed him. Have other presidents or politicians not done that?

I'm sorry, but I simply cannot see how Trump is so much better from other politicians we have/had. He comes off as just as untrustworthy, just as focused on himself, as any other politician to me.
 
One hopes that the anti-Trumpers within the GOP get axed in the next primary. Some have retired and some ought to be replaced if they aren't willing to put the best interests of their country ahead of their own personal goals. And the same goes for the Dems, enough of the BS Green New Deal. Get real or get out, one wonders how much longer the Dems can continue down this non-sensical path.

What if the "anti-Trumpers" believe that what they do is in the best interests of the country? You seem to be saying that only agreeing with Trump could be in the best interests of the country. :dunno:

If a member of Congress is opposing this or that Trump policy cuz he or she believes the policy is wrong or not in the best interests of the country or because he or she believes his or her constituents want him or her to oppose it, then fine. But these days I am not sure how many in either party support or oppose any policy or position based on those reasons, or is it something else? Like how does this affect my chances for re-election? Or, how much money am I going to get or lose for my campaign fund? Or worse, how much will I or a family member or friend/supporter gain or lose?

When I see pols who were for something and now they are against it, it's kinda hard to convince me that they are doing what is best for the country. And both sides are guilty of this I think. Sides and positions are switched depending in part on who's in the majority and who's in the WH. I may be wrong, but I do believe that most polls these days indicate that most Americans do not trust their gov't and do not believe they are working in our best interests instead of theirs.

What you are describing is a permanent political class that are in it for their own personal benefit and not for those who put them there.

Why I think they hate President Trump so much apart from the fact that he beat their nominee who was supposed to be a shoo in?

1. President Trump is not a politician.

2. President Trump is non partisan.

3. President Trump is not an ideologue.

4. President Trump thumbs his nose at political correctness.

5. President Trump gives no respect to a status quo that has not been producing the results it is supposed to.

6. President Trump sets his objective and goal and then goes from Plan A to B or C or however many different plans it takes to achieve the desired outcome. He doesn't easily take no for an answer, he isn't afraid to try no matter how many say it can't be done, and he isn't afraid to fail along the way until the right solution or fix is found, and if it is important to him, he doesn't quit. (He will sometimes withdraw, regroup, and recalculate before trying again.)

7. President Trump is determined to do the job he set out to do and whether he does it out of ego or an honest desire to help America and Americans, it doesn't matter. He intends to get it done and he has kept campaign promises more faithfully and in actuality than ANY President in my now very long lifetime.

If he is sometimes petulant, petty, cringeworthy, unlikable at times, well that's a small price to pay to get somebody who actually wants to do the job. So I want to keep him.

He is the exact opposite of the professional political class and is a danger to their existance. And that is why they and their supporters in both parties hate him.

1. At this point Trump certainly is a politician. Before being elected, he acted a lot like politicians do; the bad qualities, at least. :p

2. I honestly don't know where you get this idea that Trump is so non-partisan. He's made comment after comment about how bad Democrats and 'the left' are, hasn't he?

3. Trump doesn't seem to be an ideologue, unless you were to describe promoting the Trump brand as his ideology. :lol:

4. True, but thumbing one's nose at political correctness doesn't have to mean being crass and rude. :dunno:

5. Has the status quo really changed all that much?

6. Unfortunately, at least based on the things he says, Trump seems like the type who not only won't admit to ever failing, but who would keep promoting a failing policy in order to avoid such an admission. He also comes across as a person who would only go from Plan A to B or C if they were his plans, or he could take credit for them. That's just an impression, though.

7. How do you know what Trump, or any president, is determined to do? I have no idea how Trump compares to other presidents as far as keeping campaign promises. If he's kept more than other presidents, that's admirable.

I think most presidents want the job.

I don't think Trump is the opposite of the professional political class. I think he is more like a somewhat tarnished reflection of them. I think getting someone who is the opposite would be next to impossible because no one one would want to do the job is likely to try to get it. Worse, no one one would want to do the job is likely to get elected, even if they were to run. Presidential elections seem like more of a beauty contest than a political election to me. :(
 
One hopes that the anti-Trumpers within the GOP get axed in the next primary. Some have retired and some ought to be replaced if they aren't willing to put the best interests of their country ahead of their own personal goals. And the same goes for the Dems, enough of the BS Green New Deal. Get real or get out, one wonders how much longer the Dems can continue down this non-sensical path.

What if the "anti-Trumpers" believe that what they do is in the best interests of the country? You seem to be saying that only agreeing with Trump could be in the best interests of the country. :dunno:

If a member of Congress is opposing this or that Trump policy cuz he or she believes the policy is wrong or not in the best interests of the country or because he or she believes his or her constituents want him or her to oppose it, then fine. But these days I am not sure how many in either party support or oppose any policy or position based on those reasons, or is it something else? Like how does this affect my chances for re-election? Or, how much money am I going to get or lose for my campaign fund? Or worse, how much will I or a family member or friend/supporter gain or lose?

When I see pols who were for something and now they are against it, it's kinda hard to convince me that they are doing what is best for the country. And both sides are guilty of this I think. Sides and positions are switched depending in part on who's in the majority and who's in the WH. I may be wrong, but I do believe that most polls these days indicate that most Americans do not trust their gov't and do not believe they are working in our best interests instead of theirs.

What you are describing is a permanent political class that are in it for their own personal benefit and not for those who put them there.

Why I think they hate President Trump so much apart from the fact that he beat their nominee who was supposed to be a shoo in?

1. President Trump is not a politician.

2. President Trump is non partisan.

3. President Trump is not an ideologue.

4. President Trump thumbs his nose at political correctness.

5. President Trump gives no respect to a status quo that has not been producing the results it is supposed to.

6. President Trump sets his objective and goal and then goes from Plan A to B or C or however many different plans it takes to achieve the desired outcome. He doesn't easily take no for an answer, he isn't afraid to try no matter how many say it can't be done, and he isn't afraid to fail along the way until the right solution or fix is found, and if it is important to him, he doesn't quit. (He will sometimes withdraw, regroup, and recalculate before trying again.)

7. President Trump is determined to do the job he set out to do and whether he does it out of ego or an honest desire to help America and Americans, it doesn't matter. He intends to get it done and he has kept campaign promises more faithfully and in actuality than ANY President in my now very long lifetime.

If he is sometimes petulant, petty, cringeworthy, unlikable at times, well that's a small price to pay to get somebody who actually wants to do the job. So I want to keep him.

He is the exact opposite of the professional political class and is a danger to their existance. And that is why they and their supporters in both parties hate him.

1. At this point Trump certainly is a politician. Before being elected, he acted a lot like politicians do; the bad qualities, at least. :p

2. I honestly don't know where you get this idea that Trump is so non-partisan. He's made comment after comment about how bad Democrats and 'the left' are, hasn't he?

3. Trump doesn't seem to be an ideologue, unless you were to describe promoting the Trump brand as his ideology. :lol:

4. True, but thumbing one's nose at political correctness doesn't have to mean being crass and rude. :dunno:

5. Has the status quo really changed all that much?

6. Unfortunately, at least based on the things he says, Trump seems like the type who not only won't admit to ever failing, but who would keep promoting a failing policy in order to avoid such an admission. He also comes across as a person who would only go from Plan A to B or C if they were his plans, or he could take credit for them. That's just an impression, though.

7. How do you know what Trump, or any president, is determined to do? I have no idea how Trump compares to other presidents as far as keeping campaign promises. If he's kept more than other presidents, that's admirable.

I think most presidents want the job.

I don't think Trump is the opposite of the professional political class. I think he is more like a somewhat tarnished reflection of them. I think getting someone who is the opposite would be next to impossible because no one one would want to do the job is likely to try to get it. Worse, no one one would want to do the job is likely to get elected, even if they were to run. Presidential elections seem like more of a beauty contest than a political election to me. :(

You can't find any trait or action of President Trump that would make him part of the permanent political class.

Trump praises and compliments and thanks ANY Democrat who isn't trying to destroy him and his agenda. There are precious few of them, and he well understands that the Republican Party holds the only hope he has for getting legislation done that will help America, however tepid that hope is with status quo Republicans heading the party. So far all the Democrats are offering are short term benefits that cannot be sustained and socialist/even fascist initiatives that will hurt us some in the short term and pretty much all in the long term.

What they are offering could damage America to the point it would resemble Venezuela, not that long ago one of the top economies in the world but due to socialist/fascist policies now reduced to a warring, miserable, dangerous place with poverty, even starvation, too much the norm.

And that list of Trump era accomplishments up there. It ALL is much more than the status quo was. And every President has to live with his own administration's record. The Trump Administration is putting out a very VERY commendable record.

How does anybody justify taking the risk to reverse that just because they hate the President?
 
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The only concern I have is the continued rise in the country's debt. Neither party has shown an interest in that issue.
I would like to see more language regarding term limits on the Legislative Branch.
Otherwise Trump has my full support and will get my vote again.

The debt is worrying but the only President who ever balanced the America budget was Andrew Jackson back in the 1840's.

As long as we have a Congress that spends money like it grows on a tree no one will balance the budget and no President be he Dem or Rep will ever do any better. Congress controls the money and we all know how they spend.

In truth, the President can veto a spending bill upon which Congress would have to override the veto. But every President has to weigh values/ideology/virtue against the very real ramification of who gets hurt if he does that. What we need (for one term only) is a merciless, ruthless President who will do that and therefore FORCE Congress and the bureaucracy to rein in irresponsible spending.

Alas, President Trump, like all the others, is neither merciless or ruthless in that regard.
 

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