Today, somebody broke the law

[SwimExpert]

Somebody killed people. Lots of people. They didn't care that it's illegal to kill people. They still killed people.

They also used a gun. They didn't care that it was illegal or that California has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, they still did it anyway.

So much for laws. Got anything else?

 

[ScienceRocks]

What's the plan?

 

[Valerie]

if there is any way we can at least diminish law-breaking opportunities for mentally ill violent people, then we should least try.

that bad things still may happen randomly is not a valid reason not to try to diminish opportunities for bad things to happen.

there is no rational reason we shouldn't heavily regulate ownership of assault weaponry for lawful purposes.

fear mongering rhetoric over the 2nd amendment is both foolish and selfish!

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Shoot bad guys in the back of the head. Bury them.

They won't do it again.

 

[SwimExpert]

if there is any way we can at least diminish law-breaking opportunities for mentally ill violent people, then we should least try.

Actually, what we should try to do is to educate people like you who insist on demonizing mental illness. Stop blaming criminal behavior on sick people. Mental illness is not the issue here.

 

[Contumacious]

Somebody killed people. Lots of people. They didn't care that it's illegal to kill people. They still killed people.

They also used a gun. They didn't care that it was illegal or that California has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, they still did it anyway.

So much for laws. Got anything else?

WE HAVE HAD ACCESS TO FIREARMS SINCE , BEFORE, 1787. BUT MASS SHOOTINGS ARE A RELATIVELY NEW PHENOMENON. WONDER WHY?


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[Londoner]

Somebody killed people. Lots of people. They didn't care that it's illegal to kill people. They still killed people.

They also used a gun. They didn't care that it was illegal or that California has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, they still did it anyway.

So much for laws. Got anything else?

Dude, quit while you're ahead.

There is no need for you to go on defense.

One of the shooters has a Muslim sounding name.

This means you can go on offense.

Don't ever act defensive when you don't have to.

(In poker we call that a "tell")

 

[OKTexas]

What's the plan?

Import more terrorist.

 

[Contumacious]

Somebody killed people. Lots of people. They didn't care that it's illegal to kill people. They still killed people.

They also used a gun. They didn't care that it was illegal or that California has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, they still did it anyway.

So much for laws. Got anything else?

Dude, quit while you're ahead.
Shooters in black masks kill 14 and wound 17 others at holiday party in San Bernardino
There is no need for you to go on defense.

One of the shooters has a Muslim sounding name.

This means you can go on offense.

Don't ever act defensive when you don't have to.

(In poker we call that a "tell")

LA TIMES

"A senior federal official monitoring the case said investigators believe one of the shooters left the party after getting into an argument and returned with one or two armed companions. Local officials at an evening news conference said it was not clear whether the people involved in the dispute were the same people involved in the shooting."

 

[Valerie]

if there is any way we can at least diminish law-breaking opportunities for mentally ill violent people, then we should least try.

Actually, what we should try to do is to educate people like you who insist on demonizing mental illness. Stop blaming criminal behavior on sick people. Mental illness is not the issue here.

i said let's diminish opportunities for mentally ill violent people..

demon isn't an unfair description of sick people who have no qualms randomly shooting innocents, but demon is your word, not mine. are you trying to say mentally ill violent people who would randomly shoot innocents are angelic?

 

[SwimExpert]

Somebody killed people. Lots of people. They didn't care that it's illegal to kill people. They still killed people.

They also used a gun. They didn't care that it was illegal or that California has some of the strictest gun laws in the country, they still did it anyway.

So much for laws. Got anything else?

Dude, quit while you're ahead.

There is no need for you to go on defense.

One of the shooters has a Muslim sounding name.

This means you can go on offense.

Don't ever act defensive when you don't have to.

(In poker we call that a "tell")

What the hell are you on?

 

[SwimExpert]

WE HAVE HAD ACCESS TO FIREARMS SINCE , BEFORE, 1787. BUT MASS SHOOTINGS ARE A RELATIVELY NEW PHENOMENON. WONDER WHY?

Global warming, obviously.

 

[SwimExpert]

if there is any way we can at least diminish law-breaking opportunities for mentally ill violent people, then we should least try.

Actually, what we should try to do is to educate people like you who insist on demonizing mental illness. Stop blaming criminal behavior on sick people. Mental illness is not the issue here.

i said let's diminish opportunities for mentally ill violent people..

demon isn't an unfair description of sick people who have no qualms randomly shooting innocents, but demon is your word, not mine. are you trying to say mentally ill violent people who randomly shoot innocents are angelic?

Do you also believe in the tooth fairy?

 

[Valerie]

what kind of person doesn't even dare to try? are you a sociopath?

 

[OKTexas]

if there is any way we can at least diminish law-breaking opportunities for mentally ill violent people, then we should least try.

that bad things still may happen randomly is not a valid reason not to try to diminish opportunities for bad things to happen.

there is no rational reason we shouldn't heavily regulate ownership of assault weaponry for lawful purposes.

fear mongering rhetoric over the 2nd amendment is both foolish and selfish!

I'll bet money this will turn out to be a terrorist attack, people committing workplace violence and your typical mass shooters don't work in teams of 3-4 people.

 

[KingOfCars]

if there is any way we can at least diminish law-breaking opportunities for mentally ill violent people, then we should least try.

that bad things still may happen randomly is not a valid reason not to try to diminish opportunities for bad things to happen.

there is no rational reason we shouldn't heavily regulate ownership of assault weaponry for lawful purposes.

fear mongering rhetoric over the 2nd amendment is both foolish and selfish!

^ ^ ^ ^ ^ ^ We already do.

 

[Valerie]

Clinton is helping shape the national debate about firearms, calling for a “national movement” to “stand up to the NRA” and lambasting Republicans for voting against gun control legislation.

“What is wrong with us, that we cannot stand up to the NRA and the gun lobby, and the gun manufacturers they represent?” a visibly angry Clinton said shortly after the Oregon shooting last month that left 10 people dead. “This is not just tragic. We don’t just need to pray for people. We need to act and we need to build a movement. It’s infuriating.”

“We need to close the loopholes and support universal background checks,” she said. “How many people have to die before we actually act?”

Read More: Hillary Clinton Calls for Gun Control in New Ad

Polls show that the core of Clinton’s gun control push—universal background checks—is widely supported. Nationally, nearly 90% of Americans support universal background checks, according to multiple polls. Voters in key general election swing states appear to agree with Clinton, too. In Ohio, a 2013 Mayors Against Illegal Guns-funded poll showed that 83% supported all gun buyers to pass criminal background checks. In Florida, Public Policy Polling in September showed that 88% supported background checks.

“There is a significant swath of swing voters who support background checks and other gun safety, and who take it as a sign that someone is out of the mainstream if they oppose universal background checks,” said Geoff Garin, a pollster for Clinton’s 2008 campaign now with her super PAC, Priorities USA Action. “Opposing common-sense gun safety laws either means that someone is too extreme or too much in the pocket of the gun lobby.”

Why Hillary Clinton Thinks Gun Control Can Win in 2016

 

[Timmy]

Too early to know where the guns came from. What if they came from some gun nut state? Some gun show?

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

Clinton is helping shape the national debate about firearms, calling for a “national movement” to “stand up to the NRA” and lambasting Republicans for voting against gun control legislation.

“What is wrong with us, that we cannot stand up to the NRA and the gun lobby, and the gun manufacturers they represent?” a visibly angry Clinton said shortly after the Oregon shooting last month that left 10 people dead. “This is not just tragic. We don’t just need to pray for people. We need to act and we need to build a movement. It’s infuriating.”

“We need to close the loopholes and support universal background checks,” she said. “How many people have to die before we actually act?”

Read More: Hillary Clinton Calls for Gun Control in New Ad

Polls show that the core of Clinton’s gun control push—universal background checks—is widely supported. Nationally, nearly 90% of Americans support universal background checks, according to multiple polls. Voters in key general election swing states appear to agree with Clinton, too. In Ohio, a 2013 Mayors Against Illegal Guns-funded poll showed that 83% supported all gun buyers to pass criminal background checks. In Florida, Public Policy Polling in September showed that 88% supported background checks.

“There is a significant swath of swing voters who support background checks and other gun safety, and who take it as a sign that someone is out of the mainstream if they oppose universal background checks,” said Geoff Garin, a pollster for Clinton’s 2008 campaign now with her super PAC, Priorities USA Action. “Opposing common-sense gun safety laws either means that someone is too extreme or too much in the pocket of the gun lobby.”

Why Hillary Clinton Thinks Gun Control Can Win in 2016

Consider the history of gun control since 1994. You have already lost forever.

 

[OKTexas]

Clinton is helping shape the national debate about firearms, calling for a “national movement” to “stand up to the NRA” and lambasting Republicans for voting against gun control legislation.

“What is wrong with us, that we cannot stand up to the NRA and the gun lobby, and the gun manufacturers they represent?” a visibly angry Clinton said shortly after the Oregon shooting last month that left 10 people dead. “This is not just tragic. We don’t just need to pray for people. We need to act and we need to build a movement. It’s infuriating.”

“We need to close the loopholes and support universal background checks,” she said. “How many people have to die before we actually act?”

Read More: Hillary Clinton Calls for Gun Control in New Ad

Polls show that the core of Clinton’s gun control push—universal background checks—is widely supported. Nationally, nearly 90% of Americans support universal background checks, according to multiple polls. Voters in key general election swing states appear to agree with Clinton, too. In Ohio, a 2013 Mayors Against Illegal Guns-funded poll showed that 83% supported all gun buyers to pass criminal background checks. In Florida, Public Policy Polling in September showed that 88% supported background checks.

“There is a significant swath of swing voters who support background checks and other gun safety, and who take it as a sign that someone is out of the mainstream if they oppose universal background checks,” said Geoff Garin, a pollster for Clinton’s 2008 campaign now with her super PAC, Priorities USA Action. “Opposing common-sense gun safety laws either means that someone is too extreme or too much in the pocket of the gun lobby.”

Why Hillary Clinton Thinks Gun Control Can Win in 2016

Lies from regressive pollsters and politicians, who would have thunk, ME! Mayors Against Gun Violence is mayor bloomingidiots anti-gun hate group, you know they are going to spin things so fast no one can understand it. The hildabeast is a totally dishonest piece of crap. When those questions are asked they never ever tell the respondents the price of their proposals, they just lay out nice bumper sticker slogans and ask for opinions on them. You can't answer any of those polls without first knowing what the details are.