Tohono O'Odham Nation says no to Trump wall

[Edgetho]

You poor lost soul.

Save your pity for yourself. You need it far more than I do.

I accept things the way they are. I accept that my people were once primitive, superstitious and backward. Two thousand years ago,

American Indians? More recently

 

[Fenton Lum]

You poor lost soul.

Save your pity for yourself. You need it far more than I do.

I accept things the way they are. I accept that my people were once primitive, superstitious and backward. Two thousand years ago,

American Indians? More recently

You accept a whole lotta shyte son.

 

[Tom Horn]

All the President has to do is promise to build a Trump casino on the reservation, and the tribe would gladly allow the border wall to be built. ......

They already got a casino. Tohono O'odham Nation - Desert Diamond Casino

 

[Frankeneinstein]

That map is the answer, just build around Tohono O'Odham nation on U.S. soil to the east, north and west...no laws broken, everyone gets what they want,[or pretending to want] and the left can find something else to cry about concerning the wall...everyone is happy then...the worst thing you can do to a liberal is let them live like one.

 

[bodecea]

Eminent domain, which Trump is a uge fan of, says otherwise. Their land, lol

Nope, their land. Can't eminent domain it at all.

If it's considered private property, uncle sure can.

You don't seem to understand that tribal land is a Quasi-separate nation........not private property. One of the reasons they can build casinos even in states with no legalized gambling.

 

[Sunni Man]

They already got a casino. Tohono O'odham Nation - Desert Diamond Casino

Did you notice I said a "Trump" casino?

Which would be far grander and upscale than a broken down blanket ass operated facility. .....

 

[bodecea]

Eminent domain, which Trump is a uge fan of, says otherwise. Their land, lol

Nope, their land. Can't eminent domain it at all.

If it's considered private property, uncle sure can.

You really don't understand. It is the Nation's property protected by treaty agreement. This is something that Trump can't renegotiate.

Tho, he could continue a long-standing federal government tradition of breaking treaties...................

 

[bodecea]

Then we do what we should have done a century ago...... take the conquered land from these people and give them the option to ASSIMILATE or DIE.

There we go, that's that american way.

It certainly has been the Euro-American way for a long time.

 

[bodecea]

They already got a casino. Tohono O'odham Nation - Desert Diamond Casino

Did you notice I said a "Trump" casino?

Which would be far grander and upscale than a broken down blanket ass operated facility. .....

And then go bankrupt.

 

[bodecea]

Beautiful. Fucking beautiful. This land mass' original inhabitants were right about this disease all along; this perceptual reality and view of the universe euros infected this hemisphere with wherein all life and humanity is nothing more than a commodity to be monetized and exploited.

Before Europeans showed up, those people had no concept of the wheel. They had nothing to pull a wheeled carriage with, they had no metallurgy, they had no concept of medicine other than some chants and herbs, they treated their women like dogs, they had no animal husbandry outside of a few rabbits and turkeys -- Which is why many of them had institutionalized cannibalism, (in the Algonquin tongue the word Mohawk actually means "flesh-eater.") even moreso in the SW portion of North America , they had no written language, their spoken language consisted of a series of grunts and signs...............

I do not have the least bit of sympathy for native americans. Not a bit.

They really were savages and they're lucky we let ANY of them live

"and they're lucky we let ANY of them live"......just like the black slaves were lucky we brought them out of Africa, right?

 

[Tom Horn]

It certainly has been the Euro-American way for a long time.

PERFECT.....bodecea admits she hates her own race....another win for the public school system.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Take a detour around their land building the wall so that the tribal lands are south of the wall

That is the future, the elites will build walls around their own compounds to protect them from the masses and the decline of the american empire as they continue to redistribute and concentrate societal wealth.

Like barry's new wall?

 

[Vandalshandle]

I live next to their reservation, which they have kept essentially pristine and undeveloped, while Tucson urban sprawl is starting to look like Phoenix. These people are serious about protecting what is left of their ancestral land, and they have a lot of support down here. I, and a lot of people I know, plan to support them, and, as said by someone else on this thread, it is going to be Standing Rock, all over again. There are a lot if churches, and civic organizations who have already expressed their support. These are peaceful, non violent people. They are not going to follow the example of the RW nuts in Oregon, but they will go full passive resistance. They have treaties, and they will use their casino earnings to fight this to the Supreme Court.

 

[Tom Horn]

I live next to their reservation, which they have kept essentially pristine and undeveloped, while Tucson urban sprawl is starting to look like Phoenix. These people are serious about protecting what is left of their ancestral land, and they have a lot of support down here. I, and a lot of people I know, plan to support them, and, as said by someone else on this thread, it is going to be Standing Rock, all over again. There are a lot if churches, and civic organizations who have already expressed their support. These are peaceful, non violent people. They are not going to follow the example of the RW nuts in Oregon, but they will go full passive resistance. They have treaties, and they will use their casino earnings to fight this to the Supreme Court.

It's desert scrub...useless.

 

[OldLady]

I live next to their reservation, which they have kept essentially pristine and undeveloped, while Tucson urban sprawl is starting to look like Phoenix. These people are serious about protecting what is left of their ancestral land, and they have a lot of support down here. I, and a lot of people I know, plan to support them, and, as said by someone else on this thread, it is going to be Standing Rock, all over again. There are a lot if churches, and civic organizations who have already expressed their support. These are peaceful, non violent people. They are not going to follow the example of the RW nuts in Oregon, but they will go full passive resistance. They have treaties, and they will use their casino earnings to fight this to the Supreme Court.

Would the suggestion of building the wall around the reservation to the north, east and west work? Rather than fight? This has been a road block before. Has that solution been proposed.

 

[Tom Horn]

I live next to their reservation, which they have kept essentially pristine and undeveloped, while Tucson urban sprawl is starting to look like Phoenix. These people are serious about protecting what is left of their ancestral land, and they have a lot of support down here. I, and a lot of people I know, plan to support them, and, as said by someone else on this thread, it is going to be Standing Rock, all over again. There are a lot if churches, and civic organizations who have already expressed their support. These are peaceful, non violent people. They are not going to follow the example of the RW nuts in Oregon, but they will go full passive resistance. They have treaties, and they will use their casino earnings to fight this to the Supreme Court.

Would the suggestion of building the wall around the reservation to the north, east and west work? Rather than fight? This has been a road block before. Has that solution been proposed.

No. They tried to block the fence in 2008 and failed. The reservation is still part of the United States and thus under Federal mandate to establish and maintain a viable border.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Who? Who the fuck is this asshat?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Eminent domain, which Trump is a uge fan of, says otherwise. Their land, lol

Nope, their land. Can't eminent domain it at all.

There's already a fence across that section, dumbass.

Indians become citizens of the US in 1924, subject to the same laws.



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[JakeStarkey]

Eminent domain, which Trump is a uge fan of, says otherwise. Their land, lol

Nope, their land. Can't eminent domain it at all.

There's already a fence across that section, dumbass.

Indians become citizens of the US in 1924, subject to the same laws.

. . . which has nothing to do with treaty agreement between the US and the Tohono O'Oodham Nation.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

This reservation gets paid plenty by the cartels to move both people and drugs. This might be part of the border that doesn't get a wall but alternstive surveillance.