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Again... if the reader has read this thread, they should have recognized by now that the key to defeating a Leftist in debate is found in two key points. For those that may have come in late, I'll provide those keys for you now:
1- Find a Leftist.
2- Get them to speak.
And that's IT!
That's dogma not even a stupid child would post.In point of FACT: the US Federal Government has never solved anything... ever.
Again... if the reader has read this thread, they should have recognized by now that the key to defeating a Leftist in debate is found in two key points. For those that may have come in late, I'll provide those keys for you now:
1- Find a Leftist.
2- Get them to speak.
And that's IT!
Everything they do is a lie. Even what they call themselves, "progressives". Since they are attempting to undo the progress represented by our liberal Constitutional republic, they are the opposite. You might as well say "get them to lie" because speaking and lying are concomitant for them.
And you would be breaking the law while I wouldn't be, at least if you had your way I wouldn't be. People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.
But wait... you and your butt-buddy distick-whatherface claimed that government had solved WORKER SAFETY, when you claimed that 'capitalism had not'.
Yet here you are telling us, 50 years after OSHA was started for no other purpose that 'People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.'
So which is it?
(Reader it appears that yet another Leftist has screwed themselves YET AGAIN! So if you were operating under the impression that Liberals had done something that Capitalism had NOT... you've been misinformed by the usual suspects.)
Wrong as usual:That, and a few million cars.They did not ven exhaust gases directly into the passenger compartment. They used a heat exchanger, just like the volkswagon does.
Volkswagen's system worked. Chevrolet's did not.
All we have for that is your word on the subject.
Hmmm no we don't. They all went to the scrap heap.
Worker safety is better but people still die. Learn not to be such a child.And you would be breaking the law while I wouldn't be, at least if you had your way I wouldn't be. People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.
But wait... you and your butt-buddy distick-whatherface claimed that government had solved WORKER SAFETY, when you claimed that 'capitalism had not'.
Yet here you are telling us, 50 years after OSHA was started for no other purpose that 'People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.'
So which is it?
(Reader it appears that yet another Leftist has screwed themselves YET AGAIN! So if you were operating under the impression that Liberals had done something that Capitalism had NOT... you've been misinformed by the usual suspects.)
That's dogma not even a stupid child would post.In point of FACT: the US Federal Government has never solved anything... ever.
No, it's nothing of the kind, but you of course are just another stupid child.That's dogma not even a stupid child would post.In point of FACT: the US Federal Government has never solved anything... ever.
No, that's the historical record.
No, it's nothing of the kind, but you of course are just another stupid child.That's dogma not even a stupid child would post.In point of FACT: the US Federal Government has never solved anything... ever.
No, that's the historical record.
The Federal Highway System, the FAA, the FCC, the FDA, NASA, not to mention the Civil War, the Spanish-American war, WWI and WWII, and the death of bin Laden. That's plenty considering these are government workers after all.No, it's nothing of the kind, but you of course are just another stupid child.That's dogma not even a stupid child would post.In point of FACT: the US Federal Government has never solved anything... ever.
No, that's the historical record.
I'm afraid so. Name one thing government "fixed."
Worker safety is better but people still die. Learn not to be such a child.And you would be breaking the law while I wouldn't be, at least if you had your way I wouldn't be. People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.
But wait... you and your butt-buddy distick-whatherface claimed that government had solved WORKER SAFETY, when you claimed that 'capitalism had not'.
Yet here you are telling us, 50 years after OSHA was started for no other purpose that 'People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.'
So which is it?
(Reader it appears that yet another Leftist has screwed themselves YET AGAIN! So if you were operating under the impression that Liberals had done something that Capitalism had NOT... you've been misinformed by the usual suspects.)
OSHA had no effect on worker safety.
Worker safety is better but people still die. Learn not to be such a child.And you would be breaking the law while I wouldn't be, at least if you had your way I wouldn't be. People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.
But wait... you and your butt-buddy distick-whatherface claimed that government had solved WORKER SAFETY, when you claimed that 'capitalism had not'.
Yet here you are telling us, 50 years after OSHA was started for no other purpose that 'People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.'
So which is it?
(Reader it appears that yet another Leftist has screwed themselves YET AGAIN! So if you were operating under the impression that Liberals had done something that Capitalism had NOT... you've been misinformed by the usual suspects.)
OSHA had no effect on worker safety.
lol.
That proves only that the trend continued, essentially unchanged, even after OSHA, nothing more. Without OSHA it might have gone flat, or even risen, and there is no way for anyone to ever know.Worker safety is better but people still die. Learn not to be such a child.And you would be breaking the law while I wouldn't be, at least if you had your way I wouldn't be. People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.
But wait... you and your butt-buddy distick-whatherface claimed that government had solved WORKER SAFETY, when you claimed that 'capitalism had not'.
Yet here you are telling us, 50 years after OSHA was started for no other purpose that 'People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.'
So which is it?
(Reader it appears that yet another Leftist has screwed themselves YET AGAIN! So if you were operating under the impression that Liberals had done something that Capitalism had NOT... you've been misinformed by the usual suspects.)
OSHA had no effect on worker safety.
lol.
I posted the graph that proves it, numskull. For the intellectually challenged, here it is again:
And you would be breaking the law while I wouldn't be, at least if you had your way I wouldn't be. People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.
But wait... you and your butt-buddy distick-whatherface claimed that government had solved WORKER SAFETY, when you claimed that 'capitalism had not'.
Yet here you are telling us, 50 years after OSHA was started for no other purpose that 'People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.'
So which is it?
(Reader it appears that yet another Leftist has screwed themselves YET AGAIN! So if you were operating under the impression that Liberals had done something that Capitalism had NOT... you've been misinformed by the usual suspects.)
They haven't mentioned worker safety since I published that graph showing how OSHA had absolutely no effect on it.
SHOCKED! 
That proves only that the trend continued, essentially unchanged, even after OSHA, nothing more. Without OSHA it might have gone flat, or even risen, and there is no way for anyone to ever know.Worker safety is better but people still die. Learn not to be such a child.But wait... you and your butt-buddy distick-whatherface claimed that government had solved WORKER SAFETY, when you claimed that 'capitalism had not'.
Yet here you are telling us, 50 years after OSHA was started for no other purpose that 'People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.'
So which is it?
(Reader it appears that yet another Leftist has screwed themselves YET AGAIN! So if you were operating under the impression that Liberals had done something that Capitalism had NOT... you've been misinformed by the usual suspects.)
OSHA had no effect on worker safety.
lol.
I posted the graph that proves it, numskull. For the intellectually challenged, here it is again:
There is no way to know that, none at all.ROFL! Yeah, right. If the trend continues in the same exact direction, that means OSHA had no discernible effect on it.
That proves only that the trend continued, essentially unchanged, even after OSHA, nothing more. Without OSHA it might have gone flat, or even risen, and there is no way for anyone to ever know.Worker safety is better but people still die. Learn not to be such a child.But wait... you and your butt-buddy distick-whatherface claimed that government had solved WORKER SAFETY, when you claimed that 'capitalism had not'.
Yet here you are telling us, 50 years after OSHA was started for no other purpose that 'People die using perfectly working equipment all the time.'
So which is it?
(Reader it appears that yet another Leftist has screwed themselves YET AGAIN! So if you were operating under the impression that Liberals had done something that Capitalism had NOT... you've been misinformed by the usual suspects.)
OSHA had no effect on worker safety.
lol.
I posted the graph that proves it, numskull. For the intellectually challenged, here it is again:
would you libs please give us a list of the countries where communism, socialism, marxism, progressivism, or liberalism has ever been successful? or for that matter, just name one country.
Sweden. Denmark. Germany.
The freedoms this country has are because my people founded it, not yours. Your kind shouldn't even be here since you are anti-American.Thanks for the ideology, which is dead wrong of course. In the real world you figure out how much a problem is going to cost you before you fix it. Capitalists don't do the right thing just because. That is anti-capitalist even illegal depending on what you do because the only legal goal is to maximize shareholder value. it's why corporations can't just hand out cash unless they can justify how doing so will help the bottom line, which in the end is the only thing that matters.False!
You're speaking of the practices of the non-virtuous who engage in Capitalism. The response to which is that they received LESS business, thus their profits are lower then they would have been, had they been adequately trained in the soundly reasoned moral absolutes common to American Principle.
You see scamp, killing one's clientele is VERY hard on the bottom line and can be fatal to the enterprise.
Such practices are limited to processes OKA: Crony Capitalism, wherein the fascist (or Progressive, if you prefer) feel that they are protected by 'The Gubmint'... such individual's lack virtue.
Now again: WHICH SET OF IDEAS REJECT THE OBJECTIVITY WHICH IS ESSENTIAL TO VIRTUE?
In the real world, you do the best you can to NOT HAVE A PROBLEM... we call that DUE DILIGENCE.
But, in fairness... there was no way that you could have known that. As such falls within a subject known as "Ethics"... which falls under "Virtue", which requires Objectivity, which you as a relativist, have no means to understand, let alone apply.
Which is why you're so poorly suited for freedom and that is why you're so rarely found participating in it, historically speaking.
So you feel that addle-minded communists founded the United States?
Are you sure?
Because the United States was founded upon the Charter of Principles which recognizes that All men are endowed by God with rights, and that those rights rests upon no less an authority THAN GOD and as a result that no power within humanity is capable of removing those rights... which would decidedly include the limitless power of Government.
And THAT is pretty much the antithesis of everything you've ever said on this here message board.
Then why do you want the Government to remove abortion rights?
Exploding gas tanks were in Pintos. Corvairs were just plain unsafe. Cute Little Deathtraps Nader called them.If I knew you were that kind of nut I wouldn't hire your kid. And you would be breaking the law while I wouldn't be, at least if you had your way I wouldn't be. People die using perfectly working equipment all the time. As long as they were trained and warned, that's on them for the most part. You can always sue but believe me, capitalists do the numbers first. A flaw that causes one person in a thousand driving the car to die will never be fixed in the cars already on the road. It would make no sense to do so, it's not cost-effective.I'm not condemning anything, I'm explaining to you that such things are numbers games. The human costs, meaning death and disability, are also part of the calculation. If I employ a 1,000 kids and 999 of them won't die because of some flaw in the equipment, I don't fix the equipment, it's not cost effective to do so.
But here's the problem with that. If that one kid that dies is mine... and I find out that you knew that there was a chance that my child MIGHT DIE doing what you asked them to do, from the moment that I discovered that you knew of that risk... and you subjected my child to that risk, I would immediately go to where you are and kill you.
Actually, it's more like one person in 100,000. The flaws were are talking about are often not the direct cause of an accident. Take the infamous Corvair case. The accusation was that the placement of the gas tank caused the car to blow up when it was struck in the right way, So what we're actually talking about is the failure of the equipment to protect the occupants from accidents.
If you think costs should not be considered when making decision on safetey, you're a fool. We can make a car that is 100% safe, but it might cost $500,000 a copy.
What's the point of building a car that no one will buy?
Apart from it's unsafe handling, the Corvair used air from the engine to work the heater, allowing carbon monoxide to fill the passenger compartment.
A simple fix that could have been handled very easily and inexpensively by making sure that the owners' manual contained instructions warning the owner to never drive with the heat on and the windows rolled up.
