Top Republican Advises Democrats To Just Chill On Trump’s Conflicts Of Interest

[kaz]

Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy says all these investigations lately have been a “bad thing.”

WASHINGTON ― House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) declined to express an opinion Tuesday about whether President-elect Donald Trump’s talks with world leaders about his business interests violate the Constitution.

But McCarthy did have some advice for Democrats, telling reporters they should back off calls for Congress to investigate how Trump and his transition team are separating the president-elect’s business interests from the demands of the nation.

More: Top Republican Advises Democrats To Just Chill On Trump's Conflicts Of Interest

Gee, what a surprise! All of a sudden the GOP wants to "chill" on investigations. Blatantly partisan - and sadly funny...

Telling Democrats to chill out, now that is funny ...

 

[hadit]

You think real jobs only involve manual labor?

You honestly think Drumpf has ever had anything resembling a real job?

Define "real job". That would help.

One where he was hired by an employer not related to him and required to work for a paycheck.

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

 

[Asclepias]

You honestly think Drumpf has ever had anything resembling a real job?

Define "real job". That would help.

One where he was hired by an employer not related to him and required to work for a paycheck.

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

 

[hadit]

Define "real job". That would help.

One where he was hired by an employer not related to him and required to work for a paycheck.

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

You said you have your own business. Unless you have no employees, you would understand how hard it is to delegate correctly and take responsibility when you don't. You also fail to account for the businesses Trump started on his own.

 

[Asclepias]

One where he was hired by an employer not related to him and required to work for a paycheck.

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

You said you have your own business. Unless you have no employees, you would understand how hard it is to delegate correctly and take responsibility when you don't. You also fail to account for the businesses Trump started on his own.

I've delegated in the corporate world and it was a piece of cake. Gimme a break.

 

[kaz]

Define "real job". That would help.

One where he was hired by an employer not related to him and required to work for a paycheck.

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

It's a lot of work to do it well. You're contradicting that you are a business owner. As someone who has owned 5 companies, it's remarkably naive to say that delegation means you're not working. Frankly I can't imagine a real business owner saying that. Well, maybe if they are explaining why their business failed.

Seriously, you claim to own a business, and you think when you delegate the task isn't your problem anymore? Wow, just wow

 

[easyt65]

Hillary made the State Department a remote office of the Clinton Foundation, so I understand the GOP reminding liberals 'those in glass houses should not throw stones'.

They, however, are completely wrong in their message.

There should be no excuse-making and justifying.

America is tired of the acts and the justification crap that follows. The GOP needs to learn from the election and Hillary' rejection!

Americans want their Rule of Law and equal justice for all returned!

 

[kaz]

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

You said you have your own business. Unless you have no employees, you would understand how hard it is to delegate correctly and take responsibility when you don't. You also fail to account for the businesses Trump started on his own.

I've delegated in the corporate world and it was a piece of cake. Gimme a break.

OK, you are a liar. You've delegated shit. What you are saying is ridiculous. So when they fucked up, your bosses just said sure, it wasn't you, you delegated it? You are full ... of ... shit ...

I'm always teaching younger executives the difference between blame and responsibility. When you delegate and it fails, you are responsible. If you delegate and don't follow up and it fails, you are to blame

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy says all these investigations lately have been a “bad thing.”

WASHINGTON ― House Majority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) declined to express an opinion Tuesday about whether President-elect Donald Trump’s talks with world leaders about his business interests violate the Constitution.

But McCarthy did have some advice for Democrats, telling reporters they should back off calls for Congress to investigate how Trump and his transition team are separating the president-elect’s business interests from the demands of the nation.

More: Top Republican Advises Democrats To Just Chill On Trump's Conflicts Of Interest

Gee, what a surprise! All of a sudden the GOP wants to "chill" on investigations. Blatantly partisan - and sadly funny...

Dems need to work with Trump

 

[hadit]

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

You said you have your own business. Unless you have no employees, you would understand how hard it is to delegate correctly and take responsibility when you don't. You also fail to account for the businesses Trump started on his own.

I've delegated in the corporate world and it was a piece of cake. Gimme a break.

That's different. Did you ever have to delegate the right work to the right person and risk your business as a consequence of doing it wrong? Did you ever have to make decisions that you knew could put thousands of employees out of work and destroy a multi-billion dollar company? Did you ever watch your employees stream out of the office and walk off the construction site at 5:00 while you still faced 4 hours of meetings and phone calls before you could even think about leaving? Did you ever do all of that knowing that those same employees were bitching about you and didn't care what you were doing that kept them employed?

You say you own a business and work hard. Trump has owned hundreds of businesses and has also worked hard, very hard. Yet you want to denigrate what he's done, not because you actually know what he's done, but because you dislike his politics. Shameful.

Obama has never run a business, never had to meet payroll when revenues are down, never had to deal with complaining employees or customers. Yet you would never so denigrate his history because you agree with his politics. Again, shameful.

 

[Asclepias]

One where he was hired by an employer not related to him and required to work for a paycheck.

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

It's a lot of work to do it well. You're contradicting that you are a business owner. As someone who has owned 5 companies, it's remarkably naive to say that delegation means you're not working. Frankly I can't imagine a real business owner saying that. Well, maybe if they are explaining why their business failed.

Seriously, you claim to own a business, and you think when you delegate the task isn't your problem anymore? Wow, just wow

No its not a lot of work. People do it all the time. When I hire a plumber to come in and fix a pipe thats delegating. It only gets hard when you have a problem organizing your priorities or knowing what you need accomplished.

 

[Asclepias]

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

You said you have your own business. Unless you have no employees, you would understand how hard it is to delegate correctly and take responsibility when you don't. You also fail to account for the businesses Trump started on his own.

I've delegated in the corporate world and it was a piece of cake. Gimme a break.

OK, you are a liar. You've delegated shit. What you are saying is ridiculous. So when they fucked up, your bosses just said sure, it wasn't you, you delegated it? You are full ... of ... shit ...

I'm always teaching younger executives the difference between blame and responsibility. When you delegate and it fails, you are responsible. If you delegate and don't follow up and it fails, you are to blame

I never fucked up so my bosses never had to say anything to me.

I wasnt talking about failing or who was responsible. Thats some weird subtopic you just diverted to.

 

[hadit]

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

It's a lot of work to do it well. You're contradicting that you are a business owner. As someone who has owned 5 companies, it's remarkably naive to say that delegation means you're not working. Frankly I can't imagine a real business owner saying that. Well, maybe if they are explaining why their business failed.

Seriously, you claim to own a business, and you think when you delegate the task isn't your problem anymore? Wow, just wow

No its not a lot of work. People do it all the time. When I hire a plumber to come in and fix a pipe thats delegating. It only gets hard when you have a problem organizing your priorities or knowing what you need accomplished.

Are you sure you're a business owner? Seriously, comparing hiring a plumber to assigning a foreman the job of finishing a floor on a new building while coordinating the electricians' work on the lower floors while knowing that if they don't make the deadline you get sued and lose your shirt makes me wonder.

 

[Asclepias]

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

You said you have your own business. Unless you have no employees, you would understand how hard it is to delegate correctly and take responsibility when you don't. You also fail to account for the businesses Trump started on his own.

I've delegated in the corporate world and it was a piece of cake. Gimme a break.

That's different. Did you ever have to delegate the right work to the right person and risk your business as a consequence of doing it wrong? Did you ever have to make decisions that you knew could put thousands of employees out of work and destroy a multi-billion dollar company? Did you ever watch your employees stream out of the office and walk off the construction site at 5:00 while you still faced 4 hours of meetings and phone calls before you could even think about leaving? Did you ever do all of that knowing that those same employees were bitching about you and didn't care what you were doing that kept them employed?

You say you own a business and work hard. Trump has owned hundreds of businesses and has also worked hard, very hard. Yet you want to denigrate what he's done, not because you actually know what he's done, but because you dislike his politics. Shameful.

Obama has never run a business, never had to meet payroll when revenues are down, never had to deal with complaining employees or customers. Yet you would never so denigrate his history because you agree with his politics. Again, shameful.

Yes.
Yes.
No.
No.
Drumpf didnt build anything from bottom up. He had his business and connections given to him. Even when he went bankrupt he was still a known commodity and had no problem getting credit to start back up. In the arena he operates in everything is pretty easy.

 

[kaz]

That excludes those who start their own businesses and bust their butts to survive, thrive and pay others to work for them. Basically, what you're doing with that definition is trying to imply that business owners don't work. On the one hand, though, it is correct. A business owner does not "work a job". What he does requires far more than a job.

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

It's a lot of work to do it well. You're contradicting that you are a business owner. As someone who has owned 5 companies, it's remarkably naive to say that delegation means you're not working. Frankly I can't imagine a real business owner saying that. Well, maybe if they are explaining why their business failed.

Seriously, you claim to own a business, and you think when you delegate the task isn't your problem anymore? Wow, just wow

No its not a lot of work. People do it all the time. When I hire a plumber to come in and fix a pipe thats delegating. It only gets hard when you have a problem organizing your priorities or knowing what you need accomplished.

You were talking about delegating as a business owner and in corporate, that has nothing to do with hiring a plumber.

And again, you delegating it doesn't remove that it's still your responsibility for the task to be successfully completed. You are either lying about your background or you did what you said and been a failure and just haven't figured out that's one reason why yet.

Maybe you did it once and got lucky. But you didn't do it repeatedly as you claimed, failed to follow up as you claimed, and not been repeatedly burned by your dereliction of your responsibilities as a manager

 

[Asclepias]

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

It's a lot of work to do it well. You're contradicting that you are a business owner. As someone who has owned 5 companies, it's remarkably naive to say that delegation means you're not working. Frankly I can't imagine a real business owner saying that. Well, maybe if they are explaining why their business failed.

Seriously, you claim to own a business, and you think when you delegate the task isn't your problem anymore? Wow, just wow

No its not a lot of work. People do it all the time. When I hire a plumber to come in and fix a pipe thats delegating. It only gets hard when you have a problem organizing your priorities or knowing what you need accomplished.

Are you sure you're a business owner? Seriously, comparing hiring a plumber to assigning a foreman the job of finishing a floor on a new building while coordinating the electricians' work on the lower floors while knowing that if they don't make the deadline you get sued and lose your shirt makes me wonder.

I'm pretty sure. Someone is putting money in my business account.
Look... if you dont have a process for outsourcing your work that makes it easy on your nerves then thats your issue not mine. Sorry but delegating is pretty easy. You just have to be smart enough to pick the right people.

 

[kaz]

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

You said you have your own business. Unless you have no employees, you would understand how hard it is to delegate correctly and take responsibility when you don't. You also fail to account for the businesses Trump started on his own.

I've delegated in the corporate world and it was a piece of cake. Gimme a break.

That's different. Did you ever have to delegate the right work to the right person and risk your business as a consequence of doing it wrong? Did you ever have to make decisions that you knew could put thousands of employees out of work and destroy a multi-billion dollar company? Did you ever watch your employees stream out of the office and walk off the construction site at 5:00 while you still faced 4 hours of meetings and phone calls before you could even think about leaving? Did you ever do all of that knowing that those same employees were bitching about you and didn't care what you were doing that kept them employed?

You say you own a business and work hard. Trump has owned hundreds of businesses and has also worked hard, very hard. Yet you want to denigrate what he's done, not because you actually know what he's done, but because you dislike his politics. Shameful.

Obama has never run a business, never had to meet payroll when revenues are down, never had to deal with complaining employees or customers. Yet you would never so denigrate his history because you agree with his politics. Again, shameful.

Yes.
Yes.
No.
No.
Drumpf didnt build anything from bottom up. He had his business and connections given to him. Even when he went bankrupt he was still a known commodity and had no problem getting credit to start back up. In the arena he operates in everything is pretty easy.

You clearly are lying about your background. The problem with making up things you didn't do is the risk you run into people who actually do what you claimed you do and smell your shit a mile away. Don't sweat it, it happens.

Trump sure the fuck didn't become a billionaire handing tasks off and not following up like you claim you do

 

[Asclepias]

I didnt ask what it excluded. I said a real job. It doesn't imply anything of the sort. I have my own business and I work harder at it than I have ever worked s job. However its a joy to do so. Having someone tell you when you can be sick or take vacation is part of having a job.

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

It's a lot of work to do it well. You're contradicting that you are a business owner. As someone who has owned 5 companies, it's remarkably naive to say that delegation means you're not working. Frankly I can't imagine a real business owner saying that. Well, maybe if they are explaining why their business failed.

Seriously, you claim to own a business, and you think when you delegate the task isn't your problem anymore? Wow, just wow

No its not a lot of work. People do it all the time. When I hire a plumber to come in and fix a pipe thats delegating. It only gets hard when you have a problem organizing your priorities or knowing what you need accomplished.

You were talking about delegating as a business owner and in corporate, that has nothing to do with hiring a plumber.

And again, you delegating it doesn't remove that it's still your responsibility for the task to be successfully completed. You are either lying about your background or you did what you said and been a failure and just haven't figured out that's one reason why yet.

Maybe you did it once and got lucky. But you didn't do it repeatedly as you claimed, failed to follow up as you claimed, and not been repeatedly burned by your dereliction of your responsibilities as a manager

Of course its the same thing. Its the same process. Tell me whats the difference? This should be amusing.

No one is arguing about responsibility except you. I never said I wasnt responsible for the results.

I did it for 5 years for a top IT company.

 

[kaz]

So you understand how hard Trump has worked running hundreds of companies, that's good.

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

It's a lot of work to do it well. You're contradicting that you are a business owner. As someone who has owned 5 companies, it's remarkably naive to say that delegation means you're not working. Frankly I can't imagine a real business owner saying that. Well, maybe if they are explaining why their business failed.

Seriously, you claim to own a business, and you think when you delegate the task isn't your problem anymore? Wow, just wow

No its not a lot of work. People do it all the time. When I hire a plumber to come in and fix a pipe thats delegating. It only gets hard when you have a problem organizing your priorities or knowing what you need accomplished.

Are you sure you're a business owner? Seriously, comparing hiring a plumber to assigning a foreman the job of finishing a floor on a new building while coordinating the electricians' work on the lower floors while knowing that if they don't make the deadline you get sued and lose your shirt makes me wonder.

I'm pretty sure. Someone is putting money in my business account.
Look... if you dont have a process for outsourcing your work that makes it easy on your nerves then thats your issue not mine. Sorry but delegating is pretty easy. You just have to be smart enough to pick the right people.

Actually, I'll tell you what you are talking about here.

You need to be good at picking good people for sure, but no one is perfect except you in your imaginary world you do this

No one is perfect, so you need to follow up to verify they are good people and are doing the job right and either correct or replace them when they are not

You need to make sure they clearly understand the task and objectives and are focusing on the right things and you need to keep doing this through the process

You need to make sure they are making adequate progress

You need to make sure they have the support they need from you.

All of those are work. You'd know that if you'd ever done it

 

[Asclepias]

Since he took over his fathers business I dont believe he has ever worked hard. How hard can it be delegating?

You said you have your own business. Unless you have no employees, you would understand how hard it is to delegate correctly and take responsibility when you don't. You also fail to account for the businesses Trump started on his own.

I've delegated in the corporate world and it was a piece of cake. Gimme a break.

That's different. Did you ever have to delegate the right work to the right person and risk your business as a consequence of doing it wrong? Did you ever have to make decisions that you knew could put thousands of employees out of work and destroy a multi-billion dollar company? Did you ever watch your employees stream out of the office and walk off the construction site at 5:00 while you still faced 4 hours of meetings and phone calls before you could even think about leaving? Did you ever do all of that knowing that those same employees were bitching about you and didn't care what you were doing that kept them employed?

You say you own a business and work hard. Trump has owned hundreds of businesses and has also worked hard, very hard. Yet you want to denigrate what he's done, not because you actually know what he's done, but because you dislike his politics. Shameful.

Obama has never run a business, never had to meet payroll when revenues are down, never had to deal with complaining employees or customers. Yet you would never so denigrate his history because you agree with his politics. Again, shameful.

Yes.
Yes.
No.
No.
Drumpf didnt build anything from bottom up. He had his business and connections given to him. Even when he went bankrupt he was still a known commodity and had no problem getting credit to start back up. In the arena he operates in everything is pretty easy.

You clearly are lying about your background. The problem with making up things you didn't do is the risk you run into people who actually do what you claimed you do and smell your shit a mile away. Don't sweat it, it happens.

Trump sure the fuck didn't become a billionaire handing tasks off and not following up like you claim you do

If claiming I am lying makes you feel better about your own inadequacies then I will allow it.

I never claimed I didnt follow up. Youre adding little things to make you feel better about yourself.