Trial begins for officials accused in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud

[Truthmatters]

the op is posting court documents?

this is what I asked.

pretending I asked something else is dishonest.

 

[tjvh]

floridas central files prove voters where unfairly axed from the voting rolls.

And nobody went to jail because...
come on, this isn't even that hard for you.

 

[Truthmatters]

Florida Central Voter File - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


James Lee's testimony

On 17 April 2001, James Lee testified, before the McKinney panel, that the state had given DBT the directive to add to the purge list people who matched at least 90% of a last name. DBT objected, knowing that this would produce a huge number of false positives (non-felons).[7]

Lee went on saying that the state then ordered DBT to shift to an even lower threshold of 80% match, allowing also names to be reversed (thus a person named Thomas Clarence could be taken to be the same as Clarence Thomas). Besides this, middle initials were skipped, Jr. and Sr. suffixes dropped, and some nicknames and aliases were added to puff up the list.

"DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, to this suggestion the state told the company, "Forget about it".

"The people who worked on this (for DBT) are very adamant... they told them what would happen", said Lee. "The state expected the county supervisors to be the failsafe." Lee said his company will never again get involved in cleansing voting rolls. "We are not confident any of the methods used today can guarantee legal voters will not be wrongfully denied the right to vote", Lee told a group of Atlanta-area black lawmakers in March 2001.[8]

 

[Yurt]

the op is posting court documents?

this is what I asked.

pretending I asked something else is dishonest.

i never said you asked something else. cite where i did or admit you're being dishonest.

 

[Truthmatters]

In May 2000, DBT discovered that approximately 8,000 names were erroneously placed on the exclusion list, mostly those of former Texas prisoners who were included on a DBT list that turned out never to have been convicted of more than a misdemeanor. Later in the month, DBT provided a revised list to the Division of Elections (DOE) containing a total of 173,127 persons. Of those included on the "corrected list", 57,746 were identified as felons.

Examples:
Thomas Cooper, Date of Birth September 5, 1973; crime, unknown; conviction date, January 30, 2007
Johnny Jackson Jr., Date of Birth, 1970; crime, none, mistaken for John Fitzgerald Jackson who was still in his jail cell in Texas
Wallace McDonald, Date of Birth, 1928; crime, fell asleep on a bus-stop bench in 1959
Reverend Willie Dixon, convicted in the 1970s at the latest; note, received full executive clemency
Randall J. Higginbotham, Date of Birth, August 28, 1960; crimes, none, mistaken for Sean David Higginbotham, born June 16, 1971
Reverend Willy D. Whiting Jr., crime, a speeding ticket from 1990, confused with Willy J. Whiting who have birthdays 2 days apart

[edit] Demographics of the purge list

According to the Palm Beach Post, among other problems with the list, although blacks accounted for 88% of those removed from the rolls, they made up only about 11% of Florida's voters.[9]



Florida Central Voter File - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia





how many votes did Bush win by?

 

[Yurt]

Florida Central Voter File - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


James Lee's testimony

On 17 April 2001, James Lee testified, before the McKinney panel, that the state had given DBT the directive to add to the purge list people who matched at least 90% of a last name. DBT objected, knowing that this would produce a huge number of false positives (non-felons).[7]

Lee went on saying that the state then ordered DBT to shift to an even lower threshold of 80% match, allowing also names to be reversed (thus a person named Thomas Clarence could be taken to be the same as Clarence Thomas). Besides this, middle initials were skipped, Jr. and Sr. suffixes dropped, and some nicknames and aliases were added to puff up the list.

"DBT told state officials", testified Lee, "that the rules for creating the [purge] list would mean a significant number of people who were not deceased, not registered in more than one county, or not a felon, would be included on the list. DBT made suggestions to reduce the numbers of eligible voters included on the list". According to Lee, to this suggestion the state told the company, "Forget about it".

"The people who worked on this (for DBT) are very adamant... they told them what would happen", said Lee. "The state expected the county supervisors to be the failsafe." Lee said his company will never again get involved in cleansing voting rolls. "We are not confident any of the methods used today can guarantee legal voters will not be wrongfully denied the right to vote", Lee told a group of Atlanta-area black lawmakers in March 2001.[8]

where are the court documents that say bush stole the election?????

nothing above says bush stole the election.

 

[Yurt]

notice TM doesn't say jack about the dems who PLEAD guilty to voter fraud

nope...she derails the thread with decades old republican fraud

TM is a fraud

 

[Truthmatters]

On February, 2002, the NAACP and four other groups filed suit against Harris (NAACP v. Harris), a former state election chief, and the county elections supervisor.[17] The lawsuit cites the state, several counties and the contractor over procedures for voter registration, voter lists and balloting. The suit charges that Black voters were disenfranchised during the 2000 presidential election, and argued that Florida was in violation of the Voting Rights Act of 1965 and the US Constitution's Equal Protection Amendment. The parties reached a settlement wherein ChoicePoint will donate $75,000 to the NAACP and will reprocess the voter file on the plaintiffs' terms



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_Central_Voter_File

 

[Truthmatters]

notice TM doesn't say jack about the dems who PLEAD guilty to voter fraud

nope...she derails the thread with decades old republican fraud

TM is a fraud

where is the post on this?

 

[Truthmatters]

Judge Denies Republicans' Effort To End Voter Intimidation Consent*Decree : Personal Liberty Digest?


Judge Denies Republicans' Effort To End Voter Intimidation Consent Decree


December 9, 2009 by Personal Liberty News Desk

Last week, a federal judge in New Jersey rejected an attempt by the Republican National Committee (RNC) to dissolve a 27-year-old court order that is intended to prevent the intimidation of minority voters.

 

[Yurt]

notice TM doesn't say jack about the dems who PLEAD guilty to voter fraud

nope...she derails the thread with decades old republican fraud

TM is a fraud

where is the post on this?

post on what? your thread derailment or the dems who plead guilty?

 

[Yurt]

Judge Denies Republicans' Effort To End Voter Intimidation Consent*Decree : Personal Liberty Digest?


Judge Denies Republicans' Effort To End Voter Intimidation Consent Decree


December 9, 2009 by Personal Liberty News Desk

Last week, a federal judge in New Jersey rejected an attempt by the Republican National Committee (RNC) to dissolve a 27-year-old court order that is intended to prevent the intimidation of minority voters.

still ignoring the dems and trolling

 

[Yurt]

the op is posting court documents?

this is what I asked.

pretending I asked something else is dishonest.

i never said you asked something else. cite where i did or admit you're being dishonest.

.

 

[Truthmatters]

and there you have it folks.

they refuse court documented facts and congressional testimony a mountain high.

Yet want their court documents treated like evidence.


What do you do with people this dishonest?

 

[Zoom-boing]

TM, what is your take on the OP?

 

[Truthmatters]

where is TM complaining about voter fraud?

oh wait...these are dems, so it never happened.

submitted enough legitimate signatures to have legally qualified for the presidential primary ballot.

Read more: Trial begins for officials accused in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud | Fox News

right here.

 

[Truthmatters]

TM, what is your take on the OP?

if someone cheated in this state do you really think it will mean Obama is not president anymore?

 

[Truthmatters]

The Indiana trial has raised questions about whether in 2008, candidate Obama actually submitted enough legitimate signatures to have legally qualified.

Under state law, presidential candidates need to qualify for the primary ballots with 500 signatures from each of the state's nine congressional districts. Indiana election officials say that in St. Joseph County, which is the 2nd Congressional District, the Obama campaign qualified with 534 signatures; Clinton's camp had 704.


Read more: Trial begins for officials accused in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud | Fox News

 

[Zoom-boing]

TM, what is your take on the OP?

if someone cheated in this state do you really think it will mean Obama is not president anymore?

What? I asked your take on the OP. You keep bringing up Republicans cheating. I just wondered what you thought about these Dems accused of same, that's all.

 

[Yurt]

where is TM complaining about voter fraud?

oh wait...these are dems, so it never happened.

submitted enough legitimate signatures to have legally qualified for the presidential primary ballot.

Read more: Trial begins for officials accused in Obama, Clinton ballot petition fraud | Fox News

right here.

that is not complaining, you are still supporting them. you have no condemned any dem yet for voter fraud.