Trudeau blames Trump for loss of GM Plants at G20

[Anathema]

,How that work out for Mother Russia?

Different situation. I’m not talking about the Government owning the car companies; just ensuring they don’t do business outside the USA and that foreign manufacturers can’t do business here.

 

[Rambunctious]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Trump gloated over a few hundred Carrier jobs. Now he can eat many thousands of GM jobs

OMG...for every GM job loss there will be another job....I think we are currently at nearly full employment...we won't even miss GM...they will miss us though....I can bet on that....

 

[imawhosure]

No they are not, he is a fucking idiot!

You are the CNN dupe that knows nothing....LMAO and a bigot to boot...

39,000 brand new 4 miles on it. Hope you love your Jap car.

THAT'S MAGA!

If all you paid was 39,000 you didn't go top of the line....I have a limited 2018 Toyota fully loaded 4x4 that cost me 36,000...and I've never had a better more reliable tuck in my life....you got screwed aldo...

Really, except I can drag your POS all over the country and you can't even pull a hair off your dumb ass.

MAGA MOTHER FUCKER!

What Trump needs to do is three-fold:

1. 400% import tax on ALL American automaker vehicles (GM, Ford, etc...) made outside the USA.

2. Total ban on foreign brand (German, Korean, Japanese, etc...) imports.

3. 150% sales tax on all foreign brand cars sold in the USA.

Literally make American made, American brand cars the only affordable option.

That is one of the dumbest things I have ever read on this board.
We are Americans after all and should be able to buy anything we want and not just what the government allows us to buy! Fucking Democrat

I worked for the auto industry, and you people are ALL WRONG!

GM is killing CAR LINES, and those CAR LINES are built here...…...so is Ford, but of course FORD didn't take a bailout.

Why?

Because NOT ENOUGH PEOPLE WILL BUY THEM! They can NOT recoup their R and D investment on new vehicles for these lines, because YOU PEOPLE REFUSE TO BUY ENOUGH OF THEM! You buy Honda's, Toyotas, Mazda's, or whatever else, and that is a free society. Of course, they could RAISE the price, but anyone who has any inkling of economics knows----------> you can NOT sell it at a higher price, if you could NOT sell it at a lower price. (except maybe Leftists)

Now then--------------> how many people on this board are aware of how much it actually costs to bring a vehicle to market? That cost has to be spit between the projected volume of sales, and if the volume puts the price of that vehicle to high, that vehicle is DOA in the boardroom, plain and simple.

Soooooooooooo, in essence, what I am telling you is---------------> it was not FEASIBLE to redesign these vehicles, as they would either lose massive amounts of money from NOT enough sales because YOU PEOPLE did not like the nameplate, orrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, in some magical way, the government would have had to subsidize the redesign, meaning they would have had to take the money clandestinely out of your pockets, through taxes. How do YOU want to pay for it? Maybe the same way the Soviet Union did where they only had 2 cycle engines in their cars because in an open market, their citizens would never buy them!

An old story in the Soviet Union was---------------> You ordered one of their 2cycle cars, and the dealer told you that it would be delivered in 28 months, and 2 days. They then asked, "is that ok!" Nope the customer proclaimed! Why not they asked? Because on that day, I have to be home for the plumber-)

I will remind ALL of you, that any business can be saved, even if it loses money, or has terrible products...………..or even SOME bad products, and some good, IF...……..you have enough money to throw at it! That is what some of you are demanding, on product lines, that even YOU WOULD NOT BUY!

NOW FOR REALITY, AND I KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WAS IN THE AUTO INDUSTRY------------------> Neither Ford nor GM can sell their car lines (except for a select few) in enough volume to make a profit. People no longer want to buy a Taurus or Impala, or a Cruze or Fusion, they want small SUV'S, and that is where the money is at!

But beware ALL OF YOU WHO SCREAM AMERICAN-----------------> put a President in who raises the CAFE standards again, {meaning a far Leftist) and both of these American icons will go down; especially if they impose a large tax on gasoline. They are almost FORCED to put their eggs in a small basket, and they are doing it as what they perceive the future will hold, which is exactly why GM killed part of their electric vehicle production.

IN OTHER WORDS----------> If we as Americans remain free to purchase what we want to drive as far as today's market, these 2 icons will be fine, and probably flourish. BUT, if artificial restraints are put on your buying power again because some politician knows better than you, they will probably collapse.

Remember that when you go to the voting booth next time around!

 

[g5000]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

Trump gloated over a few hundred Carrier jobs. Now he can eat many thousands of GM jobs

OMG...for every GM job loss there will be another job....I think we are currently at nearly full employment...we won't even miss GM...they will miss us though....I can bet on that....

Huh. Full employment, even though the 400 million illegal Mexicans stole all our jobs!

How about that!

 

[g5000]

,How that work out for Mother Russia?

Different situation. I’m not talking about the Government owning the car companies; just ensuring they don’t do business outside the USA and that foreign manufacturers can’t do business here.

True. Different situation. Mostly.

But it appears you only like the free market up to a point, and competition only up to a point. So I wasn't too far off the mark. Perhaps a comparison to fascism would have been more appropriate.

At the very least, you aren't a capitalist. You are a protectionist. A different animal altogether.

 

[Rambunctious]

Huh. Full employment, even though the 400 million illegal Mexicans stole all our jobs!

How about that!

G5...are you into the sauce already?.....you know you can't mix booze with anti depressants....

 

[g5000]

Huh. Full employment, even though the 400 million illegal Mexicans stole all our jobs!

How about that!

G5...are you into the sauce already?.....you know you can't mix booze with anti depressants....

I'm just wondering why your heads have not exploded from cognitive dissonance.

Whining about eleventy million Mexicans stealing our jobs one day, bragging about full employment the next.

How are you able to compartmentalize your heads like that without exploding?

 

[Lakhota]

I can't find any video posted anywhere yet, but it soon will be. Justin Trudeau called on Donald Trump to end the steel and aluminum tariffs which are one of the primary reasons why GM is eliminating 15,000 jobs in the US and Canada, and which Trump has refused to cut, despite complaints nationwide from manufacturers that it's costing the US economy thousands of jobs. As he spoke, Trump stood by glowering.

I agree! Trump only cares about Trump.

 

[Anathema]

GM is killing CAR LINES, and those CAR LINES are built here...…...so is Ford, but of course FORD didn't take a bailout.

Then those lines should have been retooled to manufacture vehicles thst are being made overseas and those plants closed down.

 

[Anathema]

True. Different situation. Mostly.

But it appears you only like the free market up to a point, and competition only up to a point. So I wasn't too far off the mark. Perhaps a comparison to fascism would have been more appropriate.

At the very least, you aren't a capitalist. You are a protectionist. A different animal altogether.

I’m definitely a Protectionust, Isolationist, and a Nationalist. We do not need things from elsewhere and we should not be giving our products to our enemies to copy.

 

[g5000]

True. Different situation. Mostly.

But it appears you only like the free market up to a point, and competition only up to a point. So I wasn't too far off the mark. Perhaps a comparison to fascism would have been more appropriate.

At the very least, you aren't a capitalist. You are a protectionist. A different animal altogether.

I’m definitely a Protectionust, Isolationist, and a Nationalist. We do not need things from elsewhere and we should not be giving our products to our enemies to copy.

Japanese imports motivated our clunker makers to catch up or die. We'd all be driving some serious pieces of shit if we did not have a totally free market. And we'd still be watching CRT televisions.

You could not be more wrong.

 

[Anathema]

Japanese imports motivated our clunker makers to catch up or die. We'd all be driving some serious pieces of shit if we did not have a totally free market. And we'd still be watching CRT televisions.

I would be absolutely fine with that. The only sector we need to be on top technologically in is MILITARY equipment.

 

[Aldo Raine]

Really, except I can drag your POS all over the country and you can't even pull a hair off your dumb ass.

MAGA MOTHER FUCKER

Wanna bet? I can tow 10,500 lbs with my Tundra...I don't need more than that...but just so you know my truck can tow more weight than a Dodge Ram....and just as much as your Chevy....

No it actually cannot, not even in my ballpark
I got a 3/4 ton truck for only $3000 more than your foreign POS and can tow 4000 lbs more.

MAGA!

 

[Rambunctious]

No it actually cannot, not even in my ballpark
I got a 3/4 ton truck for only $3000 more than your foreign POS and can tow 4000 lbs more.

MAGA!

I thought you had a new truck...I've got no issues with older trucks....that were built in our nation....by American skilled workers....

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

I can't find any video posted anywhere yet, but it soon will be. Justin Trudeau called on Donald Trump to end the steel and aluminum tariffs which are one of the primary reasons why GM is eliminating 15,000 jobs in the US and Canada, and which Trump has refused to cut, despite complaints nationwide from manufacturers that it's costing the US economy thousands of jobs. As he spoke, Trump stood by glowering.

GM has reported that they have lost $1 bill in profit in the last year, due to the tariffs.

 

[imawhosure]

GM is killing CAR LINES, and those CAR LINES are built here...…...so is Ford, but of course FORD didn't take a bailout.

Then those lines should have been retooled to manufacture vehicles thst are being made overseas and those plants closed down.

LOL, and how do you recoup the money for shipping, plus labor differential? Not to mention, the EPA costs?

You need to educate yourself, you really do!

Many of you are suggesting through ignorance, that vehicles are being built SOMEWHERE ELSE, and then being shipped in here, and those vehicles have no market in their country of origin, and that those product lines are being shut down in this country.

YOU ARE WRONG, but why am I not surprised, lol.

Notice what GM killed. Show me a market outside the US for the impala! And trust me, if it was built elsewhere, they WOULD raise the price and ship it back here for people who actually wanted it, and were willing to pay the freight to get it.

Show us where the same vehicles killed are built, show us! And then, when/if you can, tell all of us how in a competitive market, they can now ship it there from here, when the EPA and the UAW is fleecing them.

I, as I am sure all of the rest of these nice people, are willing to listen...…..IF...…...you can make a business case; but be warned, you can't!

How do I know?

Been there, done that, tried, and it can't be done; unless of course you think you can impose tariffs without reciprocation, or you control the government and are willing to pump taxpayer dollars into a private business. So we will then be Boeing against Airbus, and everyone pumps taxpayer dollars in?

Honestly, some of you people had better WAKE UP! You bitch about cutting taxes for corporations to make them globally competitive, then you bitch about them getting to low a tax. You complained when we said bailing out GM and burning the bond holders was wrong, but now you want to subsidize their production? And a big part of the problem is---------->YOU WON"T BUY THEIR CAR LINES! Give me a break! Put your money where your mouth is. All you LEFTISTS, go buy an Impala today, and you will save the carline and the plant.

But no, no, no you won't! How do I know? Because in your LEFT hand you BITCH about this, while in your right hand you BITCH about global warming, supposedly caused by fossil fuels. Now forgive me, but the Impala is a large, FULL SIZED CAR! Your new car would be keyed at all of your friends parent's houses, while you ate smore's in the parents basement, and watched porn!

And so, it is obvious...………….you are bitching to bitch, and you are sincerely, a bunch of PHONY-E-BALONEYS! Hell, if you purchased an Impala, you would be thrown out of the green-green, phony-baloney machine.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

OMG...for every GM job loss there will be another job....I think we are currently at nearly full employment..

That's not smart analysis, as underemployment is as bad as or worse than unemployment.

 

[Weatherman2020]

I can't find any video posted anywhere yet, but it soon will be. Justin Trudeau called on Donald Trump to end the steel and aluminum tariffs which are one of the primary reasons why GM is eliminating 15,000 jobs in the US and Canada, and which Trump has refused to cut, despite complaints nationwide from manufacturers that it's costing the US economy thousands of jobs. As he spoke, Trump stood by glowering.

Move to KKKanada then, where they arrest people for thought crimes.

 

[Aldo Raine]

No it actually cannot, not even in my ballpark
I got a 3/4 ton truck for only $3000 more than your foreign POS and can tow 4000 lbs more.

MAGA!

I thought you had a new truck...I've got no issues with older trucks....that were built in our nation....by American skilled workers....

2015

MAGA!

 

[Theowl32]

GM heads paid off by obama and bush.

Huh......

Wonder why?

Blackmail is a powerful weapon.