True Interpretation of the 2nd Amendment

[danielpalos]

Well regulated militia are Necessary. The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State. Natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.

any other questions?

The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State.

the unorganized militia, just like the regular militia, has age limits enforced, and would deny 'the people' from owning firearms.

any other questions?

do your meals consist of bird seed, or crackers?

you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.

STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS

natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.

No they are not and they told you so.

Yes, they are, every Constitution tells me so.

 

[danielpalos]

natural rights are in State Constitutions, not our federal Constitution. why appeal to ignorance?

We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.

It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.

Do you have a point?

It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.

It means that Congress is not supposed to infringe the individual Right to keep and bear Arms in order to secure the security of a free State. You're back to advocating the position of Adolph again.

Congress has the power to call the militia of the United States, and regulate them well.

Want to, try again?

 

[danielpalos]

That understanding is in our Second Amendment regarding the People.

That understanding is in our Second Amendment regarding the People.

yes, it is....


"The right of the people to keep and bear arms"

The Second Clause of our Second Amendment, is not a Constitution unto Itself.

The Second Clause of our Second Amendment, is not a Constitution unto Itself.

Neither is the first clause.


despite your claims the entire amendment is about the militia

The first clause declares which portion of the militia of the People, is Necessary.

and the second clause defines who the Right is for

Well regulated militia of the Whole and Entire People; Only the right wing, never gets it.

 

[jon_berzerk]

True Interpretation of the 2nd Amendment in laments terms:

The Right To Bear Arms

Lets say YOU as a normal average person were to speak out against a Wealthy Person, I then get a Cartel or some sort of local Mafia involved to go to your house, tie you up, RAPE and Pillage your family as you watched.
The very next day, YOU WOULD LEARN TO KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT.

But here in the Untied States the Second Amendment has been misinterpreted so now all the Sheeple in this land have sophisticated firearms & modern weaponry equal to or greater than Cartel's & Mafia's, so now when I try to order them to go to your house to teach you a lesson, they will risk Serious Injury or even Death, this make it much more expensive to or even impossible to SHUT YOU UP.

Yes the American Sheeple have the Right To Bear Arms, so if I was to tell the Cartel or Mafia guys to cut off your hands, they would have to do so at the base of your wrist, thus preserving YOUR arm.............. Thus the Right to Bear Arms, it doesn't say anything about Sheeple being allow to own sophisticated firearms & modern weaponry at all.

This is why the confiscation of all Fire Arms from American Sheeple should be employed, and I say ALL guns including Flint Lock Muskets......... anything that can be used in self defense, because technically......... TECHNICALLY YOU DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO OWN GUNS.

founding father George says you are wrong

 

[danielpalos]

should we rely on the context of the first clause?

should we rely on the context of the first clause?

only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that

projecting much?

this is what we are quibbling:

The word is always plural. It is not always collective.

You are wrong.

lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.

any dictionary proves me right.

Every one of those dictionaries I've quoted have proven you wrong. And I'm citing the most authoritative ones available.

dude; you have nothing but fallacy. that is why, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, Constitutional or otherwise.

I cited Merriam-Webster.

 

[danielpalos]

natural rights are in State Constitutions, not our federal Constitution. why appeal to ignorance?

We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.

It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.

Do you have a point?

It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.

NO, it defines who has the right to keep and bear arms

it says, well regulated militia of the whole and entire People, are Necessary.

 

[danielpalos]

should we rely on the context of the first clause?

should we rely on the context of the first clause?

only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that

projecting much?

this is what we are quibbling:

The word is always plural. It is not always collective.

You are wrong.

lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.

any dictionary proves me right.

Why should anyone take you seriously?

You haven't come close to making a point

A dictionary proves me right; and it proves the whole and entire, right wing, Wrong.

 

[danielpalos]

Well regulated militia are Necessary. The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State. Natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.

any other questions?

The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State.

the unorganized militia, just like the regular militia, has age limits enforced, and would deny 'the people' from owning firearms.

any other questions?

do your meals consist of bird seed, or crackers?

you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.

STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS

natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.

Since state constitutions are secondary to the US Constitution, this insistence that "natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions" has no bearing on the topic.

there are no natural rights in our federal Constitution.

 

[danielpalos]

natural rights are in State Constitutions, not our federal Constitution. why appeal to ignorance?

We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.

It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.

Do you have a point?

It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.

And, according to the 2nd amendment, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

no, it isn't. Only well regulated militia of the whole and entire People are declared Necessary.

 

[Humorme]

the unorganized militia, just like the regular militia, has age limits enforced, and would deny 'the people' from owning firearms.

do your meals consist of bird seed, or crackers?

you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.

STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS

natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.

No they are not and they told you so.

Yes, they are, every Constitution tells me so.

You must be confusing your documents. Are you a North Korean?

 

[Humorme]

We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.

It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.

Do you have a point?

It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.

It means that Congress is not supposed to infringe the individual Right to keep and bear Arms in order to secure the security of a free State. You're back to advocating the position of Adolph again.

Congress has the power to call the militia of the United States, and regulate them well.

Want to, try again?

WTH? Did you just drop some acid? What I wrote don't have squat to do with that ridiculous reply.

 

[Humorme]

only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that

projecting much?

this is what we are quibbling:

The word is always plural. It is not always collective.

You are wrong.

lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.

any dictionary proves me right.

Every one of those dictionaries I've quoted have proven you wrong. And I'm citing the most authoritative ones available.

dude; you have nothing but fallacy. that is why, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, Constitutional or otherwise.

I cited Merriam-Webster.

Nobody takes you seriously because anything you don't like is right wing fallacy. It is fallacy for anyone to believe you are even wanting a serious discussion.

Face it. you're bored and just need babysitting OR you are suffering from a delusion that if you keep people responding to absolute nonsense, they won't take the time to write their congrescritters.

 

[Humorme]

the unorganized militia, just like the regular militia, has age limits enforced, and would deny 'the people' from owning firearms.

do your meals consist of bird seed, or crackers?

you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.

STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS

natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.

Since state constitutions are secondary to the US Constitution, this insistence that "natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions" has no bearing on the topic.

there are no natural rights in our federal Constitution.

The Bill of Rights is a guarantee of your natural rights.

 

[Humorme]

We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.

It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.

Do you have a point?

It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.

And, according to the 2nd amendment, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

no, it isn't. Only well regulated militia of the whole and entire People are declared Necessary.

Wrong yet again daniella. Do you specialize in being wrong?

 

[Humorme]

only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that

projecting much?

this is what we are quibbling:

The word is always plural. It is not always collective.

You are wrong.

lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.

any dictionary proves me right.

Why should anyone take you seriously?

You haven't come close to making a point

A dictionary proves me right; and it proves the whole and entire, right wing, Wrong.

Yeah, daniella, you are right and the whole world is wrong (sarcasm intended)

Your cryptic posts and strawman arguments make you a legend in your own mind.

In reality the United States Supreme Court has ruled 180 degrees opposite of what you post... except for the strawman stuff you seem to pull out of your ass when you really get the beat down. Maybe if you make those nonsensical posts, you think it detracts from the posts where you get proven wrong.

For example:

Tell us about your experiences inside a civilian militia.... You sure got than one wrong, didn't you?

Nah, even when you're proven wrong, you come back to remind us of your infallibility. You're a legend in your own mind.

 

[danielpalos]

you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.

STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS

natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.

No they are not and they told you so.

Yes, they are, every Constitution tells me so.

You must be confusing your documents. Are you a North Korean?

Should we insist on bearing True Witness to our own Constitutions, before we give foreign States, "heck" for not being as Faithful?

 

[danielpalos]

projecting much?

this is what we are quibbling:

The word is always plural. It is not always collective.

You are wrong.

lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.

any dictionary proves me right.

Every one of those dictionaries I've quoted have proven you wrong. And I'm citing the most authoritative ones available.

dude; you have nothing but fallacy. that is why, nobody takes the right wing seriously about the law, Constitutional or otherwise.

I cited Merriam-Webster.

Nobody takes you seriously because anything you don't like is right wing fallacy. It is fallacy for anyone to believe you are even wanting a serious discussion.

Face it. you're bored and just need babysitting OR you are suffering from a delusion that if you keep people responding to absolute nonsense, they won't take the time to write their congrescritters.

Socialism, the militia, the people; all plural.

 

[danielpalos]

you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.

STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS

natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.

Since state constitutions are secondary to the US Constitution, this insistence that "natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions" has no bearing on the topic.

there are no natural rights in our federal Constitution.

The Bill of Rights is a guarantee of your natural rights.

What happened to Dred Scott and what is happening to transgender, potential "army group personnel"?

 

[danielpalos]

It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.

Do you have a point?

It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.

And, according to the 2nd amendment, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

no, it isn't. Only well regulated militia of the whole and entire People are declared Necessary.

Wrong yet again daniella. Do you specialize in being wrong?

I am not a damsel in distress; the Person with the most fallacies, loses, "the bet".

 

[danielpalos]

projecting much?

this is what we are quibbling:

The word is always plural. It is not always collective.

You are wrong.

lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.

any dictionary proves me right.

Why should anyone take you seriously?

You haven't come close to making a point

A dictionary proves me right; and it proves the whole and entire, right wing, Wrong.

Yeah, daniella, you are right and the whole world is wrong (sarcasm intended)

Your cryptic posts and strawman arguments make you a legend in your own mind.

In reality the United States Supreme Court has ruled 180 degrees opposite of what you post... except for the strawman stuff you seem to pull out of your ass when you really get the beat down. Maybe if you make those nonsensical posts, you think it detracts from the posts where you get proven wrong.

For example:

Tell us about your experiences inside a civilian militia.... You sure got than one wrong, didn't you?

Nah, even when you're proven wrong, you come back to remind us of your infallibility. You're a legend in your own mind.

plural - x does not equal singular, in this equation.