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Yes, it does. The People and Militia are plural; you have to make up a story about it being singular. I believe a dictionary more than the right wing.should we rely on the context of the first clause?look in Any dictionary.I get that you are claiming the "people" is always plural and therefore collective. That is wrong.
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
The important part is in the second clause. And it does not leave room for quibbling.
should we rely on the context of the first clause?look in Any dictionary.collective requires plural. Only the right wing, never gets it.And your dictionary shows that the word "people" is plural. Your imagination shows the word "people" to mean collective.
I get that you are claiming the "people" is always plural and therefore collective. That is wrong.
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.Well regulated militia are Necessary. The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State. Natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.No, they wouldn't. The People are the Militia. Well regulated militia of the People are declared Necessary not the unorganized militia of the whole People.Congrats. You passed 4th grade grammar.
But that has nothing to do with what I said, does it? The fact that "militia" was used in the first clause and "people" was used in the second clause shows they meant the right to keep and bear arms is for the people, not just the militia. Or they would have used "militia" in both places.
The right wing is simply, reading comprehension challenged.
The people are the ones who will become the militia, as they had done for 2 years of war with England. And then the militia went back to being citizens who owned guns.
any other questions?
The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State.
the unorganized militia, just like the regular militia, has age limits enforced, and would deny 'the people' from owning firearms.
any other questions?
do your meals consist of bird seed, or crackers?
It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.natural rights are in State Constitutions, not our federal Constitution. why appeal to ignorance?dear, natural and individual rights are in State Constitutions.Back to that standard canard that serves you so well.
You don't have a single, solitary statute, case or even another liberal to rely on. That would make YOU clueless.
You have never shown anyone on this board (or any other where I've encountered you) that you have something resembling a cause... which makes YOU causeless as you call it.
Stop projecting. It's only adding to the destruction of any credibility you thought you had.
Our Second Amendment has terms that are plural, not singular.
That is where you sound either gay or a woman. Men do not address other men as "dear." So, champ, back to the standard canard.
FEDERAL LAW SAYS THAT STATES DO NOT GRANT RIGHTS. You are now arguing with the states regarding that issue. But, since you want to go to the states, let's do that and let's get the state supreme courts to give you a lesson (for at least the third time on this thread alone):
"The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed." The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree..."
Nunn v. Georgia - Wikipedia
"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power."
Cockrum v State 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)
The states say your are full of shit. You've discounted the Constitution. You've shown you're no Perry Mason. Singular, plural... the states have said that the Right does not come from the state. The states say the Right is an individual Right and you do not have to be in a militia in order to own a firearm. That still squares with the rulings of the United States Supreme Court.
How much longer do you want to be like a rodent on a treadmill?
We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.
projecting much?should we rely on the context of the first clause?look in Any dictionary.I get that you are claiming the "people" is always plural and therefore collective. That is wrong.
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
should we rely on the context of the first clause?
only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that
this is what we are quibbling:
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
The first clause declares which portion of the militia of the People, is Necessary.The Second Clause of our Second Amendment, is not a Constitution unto Itself.That understanding is in our Second Amendment regarding the People.That is the common law as debated at the Convention when debating Ratification of our Constitution.
I am sure there were several changes made during the process. But what was ratified is what counts. And the US Constitution is the law of the land.That understanding is in our Second Amendment regarding the People.
yes, it is....
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms"
The Second Clause of our Second Amendment, is not a Constitution unto Itself.
Neither is the first clause.
despite your claims the entire amendment is about the militia
natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.Well regulated militia are Necessary. The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State. Natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.No, they wouldn't. The People are the Militia. Well regulated militia of the People are declared Necessary not the unorganized militia of the whole People.
The right wing is simply, reading comprehension challenged.
The people are the ones who will become the militia, as they had done for 2 years of war with England. And then the militia went back to being citizens who owned guns.
any other questions?
The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State.
the unorganized militia, just like the regular militia, has age limits enforced, and would deny 'the people' from owning firearms.
any other questions?
do your meals consist of bird seed, or crackers?
STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS
It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.natural rights are in State Constitutions, not our federal Constitution. why appeal to ignorance?dear, natural and individual rights are in State Constitutions.
Our Second Amendment has terms that are plural, not singular.
That is where you sound either gay or a woman. Men do not address other men as "dear." So, champ, back to the standard canard.
FEDERAL LAW SAYS THAT STATES DO NOT GRANT RIGHTS. You are now arguing with the states regarding that issue. But, since you want to go to the states, let's do that and let's get the state supreme courts to give you a lesson (for at least the third time on this thread alone):
"The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed." The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree..."
Nunn v. Georgia - Wikipedia
"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power."
Cockrum v State 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)
The states say your are full of shit. You've discounted the Constitution. You've shown you're no Perry Mason. Singular, plural... the states have said that the Right does not come from the state. The states say the Right is an individual Right and you do not have to be in a militia in order to own a firearm. That still squares with the rulings of the United States Supreme Court.
How much longer do you want to be like a rodent on a treadmill?
We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.
Do you have a point?
lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.projecting much?should we rely on the context of the first clause?look in Any dictionary.
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
should we rely on the context of the first clause?
only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that
this is what we are quibbling:
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
You are wrong.
natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.Well regulated militia are Necessary. The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State. Natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.The people are the ones who will become the militia, as they had done for 2 years of war with England. And then the militia went back to being citizens who owned guns.
any other questions?
The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State.
the unorganized militia, just like the regular militia, has age limits enforced, and would deny 'the people' from owning firearms.
any other questions?
do your meals consist of bird seed, or crackers?
STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS
It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.natural rights are in State Constitutions, not our federal Constitution. why appeal to ignorance?That is where you sound either gay or a woman. Men do not address other men as "dear." So, champ, back to the standard canard.
FEDERAL LAW SAYS THAT STATES DO NOT GRANT RIGHTS. You are now arguing with the states regarding that issue. But, since you want to go to the states, let's do that and let's get the state supreme courts to give you a lesson (for at least the third time on this thread alone):
"The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed." The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree..."
Nunn v. Georgia - Wikipedia
"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power."
Cockrum v State 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)
The states say your are full of shit. You've discounted the Constitution. You've shown you're no Perry Mason. Singular, plural... the states have said that the Right does not come from the state. The states say the Right is an individual Right and you do not have to be in a militia in order to own a firearm. That still squares with the rulings of the United States Supreme Court.
How much longer do you want to be like a rodent on a treadmill?
We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.
Do you have a point?
and the second clause defines who the Right is forThe first clause declares which portion of the militia of the People, is Necessary.The Second Clause of our Second Amendment, is not a Constitution unto Itself.That understanding is in our Second Amendment regarding the People.I am sure there were several changes made during the process. But what was ratified is what counts. And the US Constitution is the law of the land.That understanding is in our Second Amendment regarding the People.
yes, it is....
"The right of the people to keep and bear arms"
The Second Clause of our Second Amendment, is not a Constitution unto Itself.
Neither is the first clause.
despite your claims the entire amendment is about the militia
lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.projecting much?should we rely on the context of the first clause?The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
should we rely on the context of the first clause?
only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that
this is what we are quibbling:
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
You are wrong.
any dictionary proves me right.
It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.natural rights are in State Constitutions, not our federal Constitution. why appeal to ignorance?That is where you sound either gay or a woman. Men do not address other men as "dear." So, champ, back to the standard canard.
FEDERAL LAW SAYS THAT STATES DO NOT GRANT RIGHTS. You are now arguing with the states regarding that issue. But, since you want to go to the states, let's do that and let's get the state supreme courts to give you a lesson (for at least the third time on this thread alone):
"The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed." The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree..."
Nunn v. Georgia - Wikipedia
"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power."
Cockrum v State 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)
The states say your are full of shit. You've discounted the Constitution. You've shown you're no Perry Mason. Singular, plural... the states have said that the Right does not come from the state. The states say the Right is an individual Right and you do not have to be in a militia in order to own a firearm. That still squares with the rulings of the United States Supreme Court.
How much longer do you want to be like a rodent on a treadmill?
We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.
Do you have a point?
lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.projecting much?should we rely on the context of the first clause?The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
should we rely on the context of the first clause?
only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that
this is what we are quibbling:
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
You are wrong.
any dictionary proves me right.
lol. why should Anyone take the right wing seriously about even morals and even for the greater glory of our immortal souls.projecting much?should we rely on the context of the first clause?
should we rely on the context of the first clause?
only idiots would only read half of an amendment, and base their arguments on that
this is what we are quibbling:
The word is always plural. It is not always collective.
You are wrong.
any dictionary proves me right.
Why should anyone take you seriously?
You haven't come close to making a point
natural rights are recognized and secured in State Constitutions.you are merely indulging a fallacy of composition; natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.Well regulated militia are Necessary. The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State. Natural and Individual rights are in State Constitutions.The people are the ones who will become the militia, as they had done for 2 years of war with England. And then the militia went back to being citizens who owned guns.
any other questions?
The unorganized militia are usually Citizens of a State.
the unorganized militia, just like the regular militia, has age limits enforced, and would deny 'the people' from owning firearms.
any other questions?
do your meals consist of bird seed, or crackers?
STATE CONSTITUTIONS DO NOT CREATE NOR GRANT RIGHTS
It means, our Second Amendment must be about what is necessary to the security of a free State.It is the law of the land of the State of New York. We have a Tenth Amendment. The legislature is Obligated to ensure a well regulated militia of the People.natural rights are in State Constitutions, not our federal Constitution. why appeal to ignorance?That is where you sound either gay or a woman. Men do not address other men as "dear." So, champ, back to the standard canard.
FEDERAL LAW SAYS THAT STATES DO NOT GRANT RIGHTS. You are now arguing with the states regarding that issue. But, since you want to go to the states, let's do that and let's get the state supreme courts to give you a lesson (for at least the third time on this thread alone):
"The right of the people to bear arms shall not be infringed." The right of the whole people, old and young, men, women and boys, and not militia only, to keep and bear arms of every description, not such merely as are used by the militia, shall not be infringed, curtailed, or broken in upon, in the smallest degree..."
Nunn v. Georgia - Wikipedia
"The right of a citizen to bear arms, in lawful defense of himself or the State, is absolute. He does not derive it from the State government. It is one of the "high powers" delegated directly to the citizen, and is excepted out of the general powers of government.' A law cannot be passed to infringe upon or impair it, because it is above the law, and independent of the lawmaking power."
Cockrum v State 24 Tex. 394, at 401-402 (1859)
The states say your are full of shit. You've discounted the Constitution. You've shown you're no Perry Mason. Singular, plural... the states have said that the Right does not come from the state. The states say the Right is an individual Right and you do not have to be in a militia in order to own a firearm. That still squares with the rulings of the United States Supreme Court.
How much longer do you want to be like a rodent on a treadmill?
We are not appealing to ignorance, you are. You claimed that the NY state constitution is the law of the land. It is not. It is the law of NY, subject to the US Constitution.
Do you have a point?
