Trump Administration Caves: No Citizenship Question On 2020 Census

[007]

There are millions of poor Americans without healthcare, but the D Party wants to give free healthcare to illegals. In what universe, does that make sense?

The universe where the democrat party has gone full over to pandering to illegal aliens as their new voting block to keep them in power.

 

[eagle1462010]

Post 231 shows current data that people are hauling ass from leftist states........New York is screwed and will lose more seats......California is heading that way even with the numbers of illegals going there.

Red States are gaining..............Wonder why lol....................People moving to where the jobs are.........Try renting a uhaul to get out of California now..................Enjoy the STICKER SHOCK.

And as the migration occurs states like Texas become less and less red. What happens to the Repubs and the nation if Texas goes blue?

We use the 2nd.

Whatever..............the lines are drawn in political divisions..........and it probably hasn't been this bad since the civil war.

Face it...............If we had only the weapons used in the civil war right now.........would we be talking anymore.

Answer that one honestly............

 

[kyzr]

Our President is considering using an executive order to add the citizenship question to the census.

What happens if Trump issues an EO demanding that the citizenship question be included? Who can stop him besides the USSC?
I'm hoping that Trump issues that EO today.

 

[Lakhota]

Trump Admin Misses Deadline To Provide Reason For Census Citizenship Question

And the spectacle continues...

 

[okfine]

Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census

The decision comes days after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question.

There will not be a question asking about citizenship on the 2020 census, the Trump administration said Tuesday.

The decision comes less than a week after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question, saying it did not provide an adequate explanation for the addition.

“We can confirm that the decision has been made to print the 2020 Decennial Census questionnaire without a citizenship question, and that the printer has been instructed to begin the printing process,” Kate Bailey, a Justice Department attorney, wrote to lawyers for the plaintiffs challenging the addition of the question.

Kelly Laco, a Justice Department spokeswoman, confirmed in an email to HuffPost there would not be a citizenship question on the 2020 census.

Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census

Great news! Now everyone can be counted.

/——-/ Fake news. Trump declares push for census citizenship question not over, calls reports ‘FAKE’

Well, now we know who the next person Trump is going to fire...Ross is toast.

Yeah, good ol' Wilbur. That guy should have a shock collar on to keep him awake.

What has been on my mind about the Census, is how long it's been since someone was jailed for not filling out the form or for lying; falsifying information. Mr. Law and Order may have some ideas concerning that. Canada has a law that ends that threat with their Census.

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump Admin Misses Deadline To Provide Reason For Census Citizenship Question

And the spectacle continues...

And the Deadline was created by whom..................I didn't find that yet........

Cite the SPECIFIC LAW for that.

 

[okfine]

Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census

The decision comes days after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question.

There will not be a question asking about citizenship on the 2020 census, the Trump administration said Tuesday.

The decision comes less than a week after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked the administration from adding the question, saying it did not provide an adequate explanation for the addition.

“We can confirm that the decision has been made to print the 2020 Decennial Census questionnaire without a citizenship question, and that the printer has been instructed to begin the printing process,” Kate Bailey, a Justice Department attorney, wrote to lawyers for the plaintiffs challenging the addition of the question.

Kelly Laco, a Justice Department spokeswoman, confirmed in an email to HuffPost there would not be a citizenship question on the 2020 census.

Trump Administration Drops Bid To Put Citizenship Question On 2020 Census

Great news! Now everyone can be counted.

/——-/ Fake news. Trump declares push for census citizenship question not over, calls reports ‘FAKE’

Well, now we know who the next person Trump is going to fire...Ross is toast.

Yeah, good ol' Wilbur. That guy should have a shock collar on to keep him awake.

What has been on my mind about the Census, is how long it's been since someone was jailed for not filling out the form or for lying; falsifying information. Mr. Law and Order may have some ideas concerning that. Canada has a law that ends that threat with their Census.

And to be fair, Obama was hot on that idea as well. He (BO), AFAIK, also wanted to circumvent the Commerce department and have the data directly in his hands.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump Admin Misses Deadline To Provide Reason For Census Citizenship Question

And the spectacle continues...

And the Deadline was created by whom..................I didn't find that yet........

Cite the SPECIFIC LAW for that.

On Wednesday, Hazel gave the Justice Department a deadline of 2 p.m. on Friday to explain the administration’s position that the citizenship question was necessary after President Donald Trump abruptly contradicted his administration, declaring in a tweet that

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump Admin Misses Deadline To Provide Reason For Census Citizenship Question

And the spectacle continues...

And the Deadline was created by whom..................I didn't find that yet........

Cite the SPECIFIC LAW for that.

On Wednesday, Hazel gave the Justice Department a deadline of 2 p.m. on Friday to explain the administration’s position that the citizenship question was necessary after President Donald Trump abruptly contradicted his administration, declaring in a tweet that

Who is Hazel................link

 

[eagle1462010]

George J. Hazel - Wikipedia

Maryland District court Judge..........Obama appointed him.

He's not the last step derp................

 

[georgephillip]

Trump Admin Misses Deadline To Provide Reason For Census Citizenship Question

And the spectacle continues...

Your link:

"In response, U.S. District Judge George Hazel said that he will proceed with the process of discovery, a way for opposing parties to gather evidence, which could determine whether the Trump administration proposed the citizenship question with the intention of discriminating against minorities.

"'Plaintiffs’ remaining claims are based on the premise that the genesis of the citizenship question was steeped in discriminatory motive,' Hazel wrote in a court order. '...Regardless of the justification Defendants may now find for a ‘new’ decision, discovery related to the origins of the question will remain relevant.'"

I suspect Trump will resort to an executive order then blame SCOTUS if it isn't upheld?

 

[eagle1462010]

Trump Admin Misses Deadline To Provide Reason For Census Citizenship Question

And the spectacle continues...

Your link:

"In response, U.S. District Judge George Hazel said that he will proceed with the process of discovery, a way for opposing parties to gather evidence, which could determine whether the Trump administration proposed the citizenship question with the intention of discriminating against minorities.

"'Plaintiffs’ remaining claims are based on the premise that the genesis of the citizenship question was steeped in discriminatory motive,' Hazel wrote in a court order. '...Regardless of the justification Defendants may now find for a ‘new’ decision, discovery related to the origins of the question will remain relevant.'"

I suspect Trump will resort to an executive order then blame SCOTUS if it isn't upheld?

Process of discovery ............LOL.........

Process of long delays............more like it.

 

[Darkwind]

This is disgusting. NFW that question should be illegal. Whoever went to the USSC from Commerce should be shot. The DOJ should have argued the case.
Testimony provides damning evidence Trump administration lied about census citizenship question

Fact: citizenship data is already collected by the American Community Survey, which replaces the long form Census questionnaire.

Fact: citizenship questions discourage a significant number of people from responding.

Fact: it is a constitutional duty to accurately count the entire population for representation purposes.

Conclusion: putting a citizenship question in the census is not necessary because that information is already collected by Census. Asking it would cause an inaccurate count, and intentionally trying for an inaccurate count is a violation of the constitution.

So the question is whether or not the intent was to gain an undercount of a certain segment of the population in violation of the Constitution.

Why do you think it should be included in the Census?

Do you realize that none of that is fact?

Questions do NOT discourage legal citizens from answering the question.

It is a constitutional duty to count the CITIZENS of the united states for congressional representation.

 

[Cellblock2429]

Trump Admin Misses Deadline To Provide Reason For Census Citizenship Question

And the spectacle continues...

And the Deadline was created by whom..................I didn't find that yet........

Cite the SPECIFIC LAW for that.

On Wednesday, Hazel gave the Justice Department a deadline of 2 p.m. on Friday to explain the administration’s position that the citizenship question was necessary after President Donald Trump abruptly contradicted his administration, declaring in a tweet that

Who is Hazel................link

/----/

 

[Harpy Eagle]

Trump Admin Misses Deadline To Provide Reason For Census Citizenship Question

And the spectacle continues...

And the Deadline was created by whom..................I didn't find that yet........

Cite the SPECIFIC LAW for that.

On Wednesday, Hazel gave the Justice Department a deadline of 2 p.m. on Friday to explain the administration’s position that the citizenship question was necessary after President Donald Trump abruptly contradicted his administration, declaring in a tweet that

Who is Hazel................link

The link was in the # 224

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is disgusting. NFW that question should be illegal. Whoever went to the USSC from Commerce should be shot. The DOJ should have argued the case.
Testimony provides damning evidence Trump administration lied about census citizenship question

Fact: citizenship data is already collected by the American Community Survey, which replaces the long form Census questionnaire.

Fact: citizenship questions discourage a significant number of people from responding.

Fact: it is a constitutional duty to accurately count the entire population for representation purposes.

Conclusion: putting a citizenship question in the census is not necessary because that information is already collected by Census. Asking it would cause an inaccurate count, and intentionally trying for an inaccurate count is a violation of the constitution.

So the question is whether or not the intent was to gain an undercount of a certain segment of the population in violation of the Constitution.

Why do you think it should be included in the Census?

Do you realize that none of that is fact?

Questions do NOT discourage legal citizens from answering the question.

It is a constitutional duty to count the CITIZENS of the united states for congressional representation.

The Trump administration has admitted in court that adding the question would reduce response rates.

congressional representation is based upon the WHOLE number of people, not just citizens. Do try and keep up

 

[Darkwind]

This is disgusting. NFW that question should be illegal. Whoever went to the USSC from Commerce should be shot. The DOJ should have argued the case.
Testimony provides damning evidence Trump administration lied about census citizenship question

Fact: citizenship data is already collected by the American Community Survey, which replaces the long form Census questionnaire.

Fact: citizenship questions discourage a significant number of people from responding.

Fact: it is a constitutional duty to accurately count the entire population for representation purposes.

Conclusion: putting a citizenship question in the census is not necessary because that information is already collected by Census. Asking it would cause an inaccurate count, and intentionally trying for an inaccurate count is a violation of the constitution.

So the question is whether or not the intent was to gain an undercount of a certain segment of the population in violation of the Constitution.

Why do you think it should be included in the Census?

Do you realize that none of that is fact?

Questions do NOT discourage legal citizens from answering the question.

It is a constitutional duty to count the CITIZENS of the united states for congressional representation.

The Trump administration has admitted in court that adding the question would reduce response rates.

congressional representation is based upon the WHOLE number of people, not just citizens. Do try and keep up

Of course, it would. People harboring illegals, or illegals themselves would not respond to that question.

Pretty much a no-brainer there.

The whole point of the question is to ACCURATELY determine the number of Citizens in this country so that congressional seats can be apportioned, and funds allocated.

Even though I disagree with the later, it is NOT the responsibility of the Federal Government to disperse taxes to the states, they do it and until such time as we get people of principle and morals, they'll continue to do it.

The whole purpose of the democrats taking this to court is that they do not want to lose congressional seats by an overrepresentation of the population.

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is disgusting. NFW that question should be illegal. Whoever went to the USSC from Commerce should be shot. The DOJ should have argued the case.
Testimony provides damning evidence Trump administration lied about census citizenship question

Fact: citizenship data is already collected by the American Community Survey, which replaces the long form Census questionnaire.

Fact: citizenship questions discourage a significant number of people from responding.

Fact: it is a constitutional duty to accurately count the entire population for representation purposes.

Conclusion: putting a citizenship question in the census is not necessary because that information is already collected by Census. Asking it would cause an inaccurate count, and intentionally trying for an inaccurate count is a violation of the constitution.

So the question is whether or not the intent was to gain an undercount of a certain segment of the population in violation of the Constitution.

Why do you think it should be included in the Census?

Do you realize that none of that is fact?

Questions do NOT discourage legal citizens from answering the question.

It is a constitutional duty to count the CITIZENS of the united states for congressional representation.

The Trump administration has admitted in court that adding the question would reduce response rates.

congressional representation is based upon the WHOLE number of people, not just citizens. Do try and keep up

Of course, it would. People harboring illegals, or illegals themselves would not respond to that question.

Pretty much a no-brainer there.

The whole point of the question is to ACCURATELY determine the number of Citizens in this country so that congressional seats can be apportioned, and funds allocated.

Even though I disagree with the later, it is NOT the responsibility of the Federal Government to disperse taxes to the states, they do it and until such time as we get people of principle and morals, they'll continue to do it.

The whole purpose of the democrats taking this to court is that they do not want to lose congressional seats by an overrepresentation of the population.

One more time.....congressional representation is based upon the WHOLE number of people, not just citizens. Do try and keep up

 

[Harpy Eagle]

This is disgusting. NFW that question should be illegal. Whoever went to the USSC from Commerce should be shot. The DOJ should have argued the case.
Testimony provides damning evidence Trump administration lied about census citizenship question

Fact: citizenship data is already collected by the American Community Survey, which replaces the long form Census questionnaire.

Fact: citizenship questions discourage a significant number of people from responding.

Fact: it is a constitutional duty to accurately count the entire population for representation purposes.

Conclusion: putting a citizenship question in the census is not necessary because that information is already collected by Census. Asking it would cause an inaccurate count, and intentionally trying for an inaccurate count is a violation of the constitution.

So the question is whether or not the intent was to gain an undercount of a certain segment of the population in violation of the Constitution.

Why do you think it should be included in the Census?

Do you realize that none of that is fact?

Questions do NOT discourage legal citizens from answering the question.

It is a constitutional duty to count the CITIZENS of the united states for congressional representation.

The Trump administration has admitted in court that adding the question would reduce response rates.

congressional representation is based upon the WHOLE number of people, not just citizens. Do try and keep up

Of course, it would. People harboring illegals, or illegals themselves would not respond to that question.

Pretty much a no-brainer there.

The whole point of the question is to ACCURATELY determine the number of Citizens in this country so that congressional seats can be apportioned, and funds allocated.

Even though I disagree with the later, it is NOT the responsibility of the Federal Government to disperse taxes to the states, they do it and until such time as we get people of principle and morals, they'll continue to do it.

The whole purpose of the democrats taking this to court is that they do not want to lose congressional seats by an overrepresentation of the population.

Frequently Asked Questions

Who is included in the apportionment population counts? back to top

The apportionment calculation is based upon the total resident population (citizens and non-citizens) of the 50 states. In the 2010 Census, the apportionment population also includes U.S. Armed Forces personnel and federal civilian employees stationed outside the United States (and their dependents living with them) that can be allocated, based on administrative records, back to a home state. This is the same procedure used in 2000.

 

[pinqy]

The whole point of the question is to ACCURATELY determine the number of Citizens in this country so that congressional seats can be apportioned, and funds allocated..

Not according to the Constitution or the last 23 out of 23 Congressional apportionments.