Trump administration to propose rule that would cut 3.1 million people from food stamp program

[Thinker101]

/—-/ No dumbass, it means I took matters into my own hands and worked hard to do better. Today I’d take the $10 an hour job and work my way up. Same theory, just different numbers.

Just for future reference, if you think name calling is a proper rebuttal, I will ignore you.

Yes, you can take a $10 an hour job and move up BUT there are a limited number of jobs one can move up to.

I note this over and over, please tell me in decent language if you can where I am wrong.

Your solution will work for an individual. It will not work for tens of millions. This is a country of tens of millions.

Well, it sure has worked for tens of millions individuals for the last 100 years (at least). For those that feel they deserve a promotion because they show up every day, better hold out for that $15/hour job that may come along one of these days.

If it worked, there wouldn't be so many on public assistance of some sort.

Again, you once could get a good paying factory job. You didn't have to get "promoted" to just get by. Sadly $15 an hour will not even do that in some places.

It works, which is why there are so many more not getting public assistance. I can understand you or others not willing to put out the effort, it's not easy, although that only assures you will not get anywhere.

/—-/ Well maybe everything comes easy to you, but I had to work my azz off with both a full time job and a part time job on the weekend. I lived on the cheap saved every dime to pay for college tuition. It took a decade before I started making a good living and could start investing. Wish I had your easy life and golden touch,

Ease up Jack, I agree with you.

 

[progressive hunter]

we need a democrat candidate who speaks to what american are feeling in their guts and kick Trump out of the white house and into jail!

The Citizens of the United States of America want America placed first not second behind other countries. They want to be left only to live their lives without government regulations telling them what to eat, who to love, where to go to church. Basically they want to be left alone.

I don't see it as a race. People don't seem to understand that we do better when others do better also. You don't have to knock others down to do well yourself. When people have something to lose, they are less likely to want to see it destroyed.

what do you mean by "knock others down"???

how and when is that happening,,

 

[pknopp]

If it worked, there wouldn't be so many on public assistance of some sort.

Again, you once could get a good paying factory job. You didn't have to get "promoted" to just get by. Sadly $15 an hour will not even do that in some places.

It works, which is why there are so many more not getting public assistance. I can understand you or others not willing to put out the effort, it's not easy, although that only assures you will not get anywhere.

It seems that this always is the reply. It's not about me. For some reason you and many others think you have to get in some stupid personal shot. I don't
understand it. I'm doing fine. Everything is not about me.

Then stop your friggen whining.

Excuse me for caring about more than myself.

If you cared you would teach others how to succeed, arguing for freebies does not lead to success.

I've addressed this over and over. I'm not interested in bumper sticker arguments.

 

[Thinker101]

It works, which is why there are so many more not getting public assistance. I can understand you or others not willing to put out the effort, it's not easy, although that only assures you will not get anywhere.

It seems that this always is the reply. It's not about me. For some reason you and many others think you have to get in some stupid personal shot. I don't
understand it. I'm doing fine. Everything is not about me.

Then stop your friggen whining.

Excuse me for caring about more than myself.

If you cared you would teach others how to succeed, arguing for freebies does not lead to success.

I've addressed this over and over. I'm not interested in bumper sticker arguments.

Great, so carry on with your whining.

 

[pknopp]

we need a democrat candidate who speaks to what american are feeling in their guts and kick Trump out of the white house and into jail!

The Citizens of the United States of America want America placed first not second behind other countries. They want to be left only to live their lives without government regulations telling them what to eat, who to love, where to go to church. Basically they want to be left alone.

I don't see it as a race. People don't seem to understand that we do better when others do better also. You don't have to knock others down to do well yourself. When people have something to lose, they are less likely to want to see it destroyed.

what do you mean by "knock others down"???

how and when is that happening,,

Like we do with places like Iran. They want to sell oil to China and Russia. It's their oil, they can do as they wish. We argue for sanctions because they will not bend to our every will.

 

[pknopp]

It seems that this always is the reply. It's not about me. For some reason you and many others think you have to get in some stupid personal shot. I don't
understand it. I'm doing fine. Everything is not about me.

Then stop your friggen whining.

Excuse me for caring about more than myself.

If you cared you would teach others how to succeed, arguing for freebies does not lead to success.

I've addressed this over and over. I'm not interested in bumper sticker arguments.

Great, so carry on with your whining.

"whining".......is that what Trump does when the Fed won't lower interest rates in what is supposed to be a "great" economy?

 

[progressive hunter]

I have even a better idea Moon Bat.

I'll chose when I want to be compassionate and help people that need it when I think they deserve it and the fucking government can stay out of it. It is called "Liberty" Moon Bat. Go look it up.

Whenever one of you fools talks about "liberty", it usually mean rich people being able to screw over working folks like you...

You are too dumb to realize it.

how is giving people jobs screwing them over???

 

[progressive hunter]

we need a democrat candidate who speaks to what american are feeling in their guts and kick Trump out of the white house and into jail!

The Citizens of the United States of America want America placed first not second behind other countries. They want to be left only to live their lives without government regulations telling them what to eat, who to love, where to go to church. Basically they want to be left alone.

I don't see it as a race. People don't seem to understand that we do better when others do better also. You don't have to knock others down to do well yourself. When people have something to lose, they are less likely to want to see it destroyed.

what do you mean by "knock others down"???

how and when is that happening,,

Like we do with places like Iran. They want to sell oil to China and Russia. It's their oil, they can do as they wish. We argue for sanctions because they will not bend to our every will.

then stop voting for democrat and republicans,,,

and stop including me or we in those things,,,less than half the country vote for those morons for a reason,,,

 

[Oddball]

How do you know the welfare moochers in those states voted for him?

I wonder what it will be like to live in those places when the moochers get really really hungry. Like starving hungry.

You might need more ammo. And more guns.

So you're really so dopey as to believe the only thing between poor people and total starvation is the benevolent iron fist of The State?

Wow.

 

[progressive hunter]

the problem is you steal money from us to pay for your poor friends,,,and no where in the constitution does that authority exist,,,

Nowhere in the constitution does it say we have to give big tax subsidies to big corporations, but you guys do that shit, too.

Hey, here's why I am all for taking money and giving it to poor people. It's preferable to them breaking into my house at night and trying to take it.

sorry jr but I am not one of those guys,,,

 

[pknopp]

we need a democrat candidate who speaks to what american are feeling in their guts and kick Trump out of the white house and into jail!

The Citizens of the United States of America want America placed first not second behind other countries. They want to be left only to live their lives without government regulations telling them what to eat, who to love, where to go to church. Basically they want to be left alone.

I don't see it as a race. People don't seem to understand that we do better when others do better also. You don't have to knock others down to do well yourself. When people have something to lose, they are less likely to want to see it destroyed.

what do you mean by "knock others down"???

how and when is that happening,,

Like we do with places like Iran. They want to sell oil to China and Russia. It's their oil, they can do as they wish. We argue for sanctions because they will not bend to our every will.

then stop voting for democrat and republicans,,,

and stop including me or we in those things,,,less than half the country vote for those morons for a reason,,,

As Americans "we" do it. I never vote for a party. I vote ideas and anyone that supports those ideas.

 

[progressive hunter]

Why would you want people who vote for you to be on food stamps? Wouldn't you want them to have the opportunity to get off of them? I'm not sure why Democrats view government dependency as desirable. Instead of getting as many people on foodstamps as possible(Obama), wouldn't you want to provide as much opportunity as possible so people wouldn't need them?

Socialists want everyone dependent on the government. Socialists believe in Government as their provider and savior.

Socialists want the people as their provider, and in turn to provide back the people. Government would only enter into the picture if they represent the people.

Capitalists on the other had, just want to keep the surplus for themselves, instead of returning it to those who created the value.

ummm excuse me ,,,but capitalist are the ones that created that value,,,before them it was nothing

 

[progressive hunter]

The Citizens of the United States of America want America placed first not second behind other countries. They want to be left only to live their lives without government regulations telling them what to eat, who to love, where to go to church. Basically they want to be left alone.

I don't see it as a race. People don't seem to understand that we do better when others do better also. You don't have to knock others down to do well yourself. When people have something to lose, they are less likely to want to see it destroyed.

what do you mean by "knock others down"???

how and when is that happening,,

Like we do with places like Iran. They want to sell oil to China and Russia. It's their oil, they can do as they wish. We argue for sanctions because they will not bend to our every will.

then stop voting for democrat and republicans,,,

and stop including me or we in those things,,,less than half the country vote for those morons for a reason,,,

As Americans "we" do it. I never vote for a party. I vote ideas and anyone that supports those ideas.

so youve never voted for a dem or repubes???


and sorry youre not going to push a guilt trip on me or others for your fuck ups,,,,,

 

[progressive hunter]

It doesn't matter what you did. When you did it there were millions of well paying factory jobs that one could get with absolutely no experience. That is no longer the case.

That's like arguing, I could buy a loaf of bread for 19 cents, I don't understand why everyone can't do that today.

/—-/ No dumbass, it means I took matters into my own hands and worked hard to do better. Today I’d take the $10 an hour job and work my way up. Same theory, just different numbers.

Just for future reference, if you think name calling is a proper rebuttal, I will ignore you.

Yes, you can take a $10 an hour job and move up BUT there are a limited number of jobs one can move up to.

I note this over and over, please tell me in decent language if you can where I am wrong.

Your solution will work for an individual. It will not work for tens of millions. This is a country of tens of millions.

/—-/ You have a defeatist attitude, you gave up without trying. Swifthires - Job Results
Many jobs for immediate hire paying $15 an hour. No experience necessary.

I make good money. See, I don't believe that everything is about me. I'm 57 and about ready to retire. I'm doing fine.

I'm able to understand that things are not the same as they were when I was young.

We have put "shareholder value" above everything. Above people, safety, everything.

"Shareholder value" is why Boeing killed nearly 350 people and are on the verge of killing many decent paying jobs. They still are desparete to find the cheap way out of this mess to not hurt "shareholder value".

/——/ Who is we? And I blame the programmers for the 737 problems. Now Chevy building the Corvair or Ford building the Pinto is another story.

the corvair was just fine,,,the pinto not so much

 

[pknopp]

I don't see it as a race. People don't seem to understand that we do better when others do better also. You don't have to knock others down to do well yourself. When people have something to lose, they are less likely to want to see it destroyed.

what do you mean by "knock others down"???

how and when is that happening,,

Like we do with places like Iran. They want to sell oil to China and Russia. It's their oil, they can do as they wish. We argue for sanctions because they will not bend to our every will.

then stop voting for democrat and republicans,,,

and stop including me or we in those things,,,less than half the country vote for those morons for a reason,,,

As Americans "we" do it. I never vote for a party. I vote ideas and anyone that supports those ideas.

so youve never voted for a dem or repubes???


and sorry youre not going to push a guilt trip on me or others for your fuck ups,,,,,

I'm 57, I have voted quite a bit. Have I ever? Yes. Last presidential election I vote for Jill Stein. The one before Vermin Supreme. Before that Bob Barr.

But like others, you think a proper rebuttal is taking a swipe at me for some odd reason. I don't understand.......

 

[progressive hunter]

the problem is you steal money from us to pay for your poor friends,,,and no where in the constitution does that authority exist,,,

Nowhere in the constitution does it say we have to give big tax subsidies to big corporations, but you guys do that shit, too.

Hey, here's why I am all for taking money and giving it to poor people. It's preferable to them breaking into my house at night and trying to take it.

/—-/ Nowhere in the constitution does it say we must subsidize murdering babies in abortion mills, but here we are.

Nowhere in the Constitution does it say you can force women, against their will, to carry and give birth to babies they cannot afford to raise, but here we are.

dragons say the dumbest things,,

 

[progressive hunter]

what do you mean by "knock others down"???

how and when is that happening,,

Like we do with places like Iran. They want to sell oil to China and Russia. It's their oil, they can do as they wish. We argue for sanctions because they will not bend to our every will.

then stop voting for democrat and republicans,,,

and stop including me or we in those things,,,less than half the country vote for those morons for a reason,,,

As Americans "we" do it. I never vote for a party. I vote ideas and anyone that supports those ideas.

so youve never voted for a dem or repubes???


and sorry youre not going to push a guilt trip on me or others for your fuck ups,,,,,

I'm 57, I have voted quite a bit. Have I ever? Yes. Last presidential election I vote for Jill Stein. The one before Vermin Supreme. Before that Bob Barr.

But like others, you think a proper rebuttal is taking a swipe at me for some odd reason. I don't understand.......

might be because youre blaming me and other people for doing something they didnt do,,,

I've voted for over 35 yrs and not once for a dem or republican, same as almost half the country

 

[pknopp]

Like we do with places like Iran. They want to sell oil to China and Russia. It's their oil, they can do as they wish. We argue for sanctions because they will not bend to our every will.

then stop voting for democrat and republicans,,,

and stop including me or we in those things,,,less than half the country vote for those morons for a reason,,,

As Americans "we" do it. I never vote for a party. I vote ideas and anyone that supports those ideas.

so youve never voted for a dem or repubes???


and sorry youre not going to push a guilt trip on me or others for your fuck ups,,,,,

I'm 57, I have voted quite a bit. Have I ever? Yes. Last presidential election I vote for Jill Stein. The one before Vermin Supreme. Before that Bob Barr.

But like others, you think a proper rebuttal is taking a swipe at me for some odd reason. I don't understand.......

might be because youre blaming me and other people for doing something they didnt do,,,

I blamed "us". We have allowed it to happen. We root it on today (or many do). Are you saying you don't support Trump's position on Iran?

 

[elektra]

Food stamps, sadly government policies have run up the cost of food to an extreme level.

Potatoes in New England $5 for 5lbs. I paid $2 for 10 lbs not that long ago.

Meat, extremely expensive.

Thank you, demoRATs.

 

[progressive hunter]

then stop voting for democrat and republicans,,,

and stop including me or we in those things,,,less than half the country vote for those morons for a reason,,,

As Americans "we" do it. I never vote for a party. I vote ideas and anyone that supports those ideas.

so youve never voted for a dem or repubes???


and sorry youre not going to push a guilt trip on me or others for your fuck ups,,,,,

I'm 57, I have voted quite a bit. Have I ever? Yes. Last presidential election I vote for Jill Stein. The one before Vermin Supreme. Before that Bob Barr.

But like others, you think a proper rebuttal is taking a swipe at me for some odd reason. I don't understand.......

might be because youre blaming me and other people for doing something they didnt do,,,

I blamed "us". We have allowed it to happen. We root it on today (or many do). Are you saying you don't support Trump's position on Iran?

no we havent,,,and nothing short of leaving the middle east or turning it into a glass bowl will solve the iran problem or ours,,


and you might want to defend a different country than iran,,,they are one of the largest provider of terrorist in the world