Trump and Melania test positive for COVID-19

[miketx]

I wonder if Trump still thinks it's a hoax?

There are two types of people who believe that Trump said the virus is a hoax.

Type 1 are people who don't really follow politics. They just heard the lie about Trump on the fake news or in casual conversation or something and never bothered to fact check it. They are not aware that the Democrats are such despicable lying immoral America hating scumbags that they would purposefully and relentlessly disseminate dangerous defamatory disinformation regarding COVID 19. They have only heard one side of the story and are a bit naive regarding exactly how fucking evil Democrats really are. It's simply unfathomable for them to believe that Democrats would stoop so low that they would spread such an unconscionable lie. A lie that has certainly caused an untold number of Americans to die a slow painful death drowning in their own bodily fluids.

My aunt was type one. She doesn't follow politics. She's never even voted before in her life. She wasn't taking prudent precautions to because she heard that the POTUS said the virus was a hoax. She didn't start taking prudent precautions until after I informed her that the POTUS never said that. She was so incredulous that anyone would spread such a unconscionable lie that I had to send her a link to the unedited version of Trump's speech before she believed me.

Type 2 are low IQ individuals. TDS afflicted morons who do not possess the critical thinking skills necessary to fact check anything. They are feeble-minded individuals who's low IQ makes them extremely suggestable and therefore easily brainwashed by the fake news media via the simplest brainwashing technique. Repeated messaging. They will believe whatever lie about Trump has been told to them repeatedly, even after they have been informed of the truth. If they are told both the truth and a lie, they will believe whatever they heard most often. And in this case, they believe the lie because they were simply told the lie more often than the truth. In their simpleton minds, the lie becomes the truth. They're idiots.

You are not type 1. You have been informed on this very board that Trump never said that the virus was a hoax.

On the last Friday of February 2020 during the first major breakout of the virus in the US, Trump held a campaign rally in South Carolina and made comments during a speech in which he accused Democrats of “politicizing” the coronavirus outbreak that left many with the impression that he had referred to the virus itself as a “hoax.” He of course was referring to Democrat comments in the media about the seriousness of the virus and that it was not just the flu. Trump did not say "the virus is a hoax" but that is exactly what he meant. His downplaying of virus, misrepresenting the facts, attacking medical experts that were cautioning the public confirms that a hoax is exactly what he thought or what he hoped the voters would think.

Apparently you believe in categorizing people which is at the heart of the greatest problems this country faces. The problem with categorizing people is that when we do that we dehumanize them. People are no longer individuals, with unique backgrounds, upbringings, genes, quirks, traits and opinions. Instead, people are symbols. They are black or white or Irish Catholic or liberal or conservative or rich or poor. When you lump people into categories, they becomes symbols not individuals. And that leads to deep resentments, persecution, harassment, riots, and bloodshed.

Now see, there you go with "he didn't directly say it, but we know what he meant" bullcrap. You Democrats have been trying to figure Trump out ever since his office was bugged, and you still don't know crap.

Fast forward to now in virus land, and you'll see that it doesn't matter on either side what was said about the virus, because this virus does what it wants to do when it wants to do it. Mask don't work, even though they might mitigate flying debris from a person sneezing or coughing if sick, but the spread isn't slowing. Trump fast tracking a vaccine is the only answer.

Mask don’t work? NOW we see Trump going to his helicopter wearing a mask and the rest of his team are now wearing mask.

Convenient timing after that side show they called a debate the other night. Guess they really really really didn't want to debate again. Ha. I'm sure Biden is just as pleased.

Biden was in close proximity for 90 minuets.... He gets a test too...

God will see to it that biden gets it.

All Biden needs to do is touch the surface where the virus is and then touch his face by putting on or taking off his mask and he has got it... Shit happens... and there isn't anything anyone can do about it unless you live in a sterile bubble..

Yup. These lefty meatheads think you can control a virus.

You can't. No matter who runs the show, no matter what they have to say, no matter what they do a pandemic kills. It can't be controlled.

It will get into any country no matter the safeguards that country institutes. Its a killer and can't be controlled.

Of course it can be controlled and reduced in spread.

It can't be eliminated entirely, until at 80 or 90% herd immunity, via vaccination. The small pox virus was killed, eliminated, is one example

because smallpox only infects humans and has no other reservoir or infection source. It also didn't mutate into differing forms like some other viruses do.

ok

But we still can control virus spread, through our actions... we have always been able to ....

With AIDS, wear a rubber...

With the Spanish flu, wear masks, cancelled schools, churches and gatherings of people together...

With measles, quarantine kids at home...

Only the Spanish Flu is applicable, and even then they had to balance risk of infection with risk of economic disaster.

What you are looking for is zero risk of infection at the cost of destroying the economy.

I m not looking for zero risk.

Well that's what your side appears to be selling.

There is no need to "sell it" Marty, it's actually FACT BASED....

Those spreading the bull crud that masks don't work to slow down the spread of infection, are the ones trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge, to everyone.

Those saying that masks will protect you or imply they will protect you 100% are trying to sell you the bridge.

I searched all the way to the end of the internet (it's granny porn, btw), and I couldn't find anyone who said or implied masks will protect you 100%. You may have to look elsewhere for your bridge.

They imply it when they force everyone to wear them and don't tell people it only lowers your risk (actually lowering other's risk)

I guess you haven't seen the ads and signs, "I wear a mask for you". Another failure of the Trump administration is not creating a nationwide advertising campaign for mask wearing and social distancing. Of course that would be rather hypocritical when the president is mocking and downplaying it.

The President cannot mandate the wearing of garb. If he did that you guys would be accusing him of being a tyrant. Grow up.

Yes he can but cowardly he didn’t because of incompetent and ineptness.

No, he can't. Even if he did the only law enforcement agency he has that could enforce it is the FBI. He could also use other FEDERAL officers, or nationalize the guard to do it, but with the guard you run into posese commitus issues.

Yes he can. The least minimum he can do was to encourage people to wear mask. Not discouraged people not to wear mask.At the same the main source misinformation and conspiracies. That alone he failed big time.

What are his exact quotes about mask usage and requirements?

Oh dear.
His own administration policy and even his own surgeon general beg people to wear mask. On top of CDC and NIH wear that damn mask.
Trump told Americans in his town hall meeting that mask is not good because a waitress told him.
He mocked Biden for wearing mask even inside the debate. What am I missing Marty?

Wearing a mask at all, or wearing a mask in situations where it its pointless or just theater?

Then you should call Trump administration, CDC, NIH to revised their policy that mask is worthless. During the debate .......... Trump even mentioned he wear and pulled a mask from his pocket.. Don’t tell me he is lying again.

Where did they say a mask is worthless?

They ( CDC, NIH, Trump administration) never said mask is worthless. You and your fellow gullibles keep repeating mask is worthless. You can twist a wet pretzels how ever you want but you are losing.

Then why do people keep claiming trump is against using masks at all?

Trump mask is not good because a waitress told him.

More worthless posting from a drooling mouthbreather.

Don't you have some ChiComm dick to suck?

I understand truth hurts.
Here is the exact link when Trump told millions of Americans that mask is not good because waitress told him.

I am NOT going to lower my class to your low life miserable class. I accept this as your defeat.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/09/15/parsing-trumps-baffling-head-slapping-comments-mask-wearing/?outputType=amp

Butthurt news.

Sorry. It’s a real news. Posted all over the world how dumb is our president. Sadly.

Liar, traitor, shill.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.

When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.

The official number is a steaming load of BS. This has already been explained to you more than once, so I can only conclude that you are dishonest and you choose to believe BS because the only thing that matters to you is trying to score political points.

Exactly, he has been taken to school on that too many times to remember in this thread by myself and many others like Andy recently,he is frustrated he can’t counter those facts so he insults in defeat,he played dodgeball with this video same as he and all other dem loving America haters did with death wish’s video as well earlier.lol

 

[candycorn]

This from NPR:

Mary Trump Says Trump Family Saw Illness As 'Unforgivable Weakness'

The president's niece says illness was seen as "unacceptable" by Donald Trump and his father, Fred Trump. President Trump has been diagnosed with COVID-19.

www.npr.org

It fits right in with all of the other brainless attempts to project masculinity.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.

When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.

The official number is a steaming load of BS. This has already been explained to you more than once, so I can only conclude that you are dishonest and you choose to believe BS because the only thing that matters to you is trying to score political points.

The person I'm talking to is siting the CDC. You know, someone who isn't completely fucking retarded.

Go tell other people how the illuminati is altering the numbers while you discuss the fake moon landing.

Not fucking retarded like you but someone who has fallen for the lies and propaganda by that evil organization and is so brainwashed incapable of critical thinking same as you,that he believes eveything that evil institution tells him same as you and is just parroting the lies passed on to him by the higher up evil monsters.

I see you are ignorant to the fact as well that even the cdc themselves even at one point came out and admitted their numbers are inflated,lol

 

[Care4all]

Take the CDC data and shove it........

Perfect. Go talk to buttercup about that.

Let me know when you two figure out the "real" number of covid deaths.

No one knows the real number...........and under the Cares act it rewarded hospitals and labs for calling it covid.............

Sell your BS and Fear mongering elsewhere.

Deaths in 2020 vs 2019 ytd, are wayyyyy up.....!!! And that was just through April I believe?

... while some individual categories of deaths are down....like auto accident deaths are down...because less people drove during th lockdown, and now working from home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-reports-66000-more-deaths-than-expected-so-far-this-year/2020/04/29/b6833548-8a68-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html

 

[Flopper]

I wonder if Trump still thinks it's a hoax?

There are two types of people who believe that Trump said the virus is a hoax.

Type 1 are people who don't really follow politics. They just heard the lie about Trump on the fake news or in casual conversation or something and never bothered to fact check it. They are not aware that the Democrats are such despicable lying immoral America hating scumbags that they would purposefully and relentlessly disseminate dangerous defamatory disinformation regarding COVID 19. They have only heard one side of the story and are a bit naive regarding exactly how fucking evil Democrats really are. It's simply unfathomable for them to believe that Democrats would stoop so low that they would spread such an unconscionable lie. A lie that has certainly caused an untold number of Americans to die a slow painful death drowning in their own bodily fluids.

My aunt was type one. She doesn't follow politics. She's never even voted before in her life. She wasn't taking prudent precautions to because she heard that the POTUS said the virus was a hoax. She didn't start taking prudent precautions until after I informed her that the POTUS never said that. She was so incredulous that anyone would spread such a unconscionable lie that I had to send her a link to the unedited version of Trump's speech before she believed me.

Type 2 are low IQ individuals. TDS afflicted morons who do not possess the critical thinking skills necessary to fact check anything. They are feeble-minded individuals who's low IQ makes them extremely suggestable and therefore easily brainwashed by the fake news media via the simplest brainwashing technique. Repeated messaging. They will believe whatever lie about Trump has been told to them repeatedly, even after they have been informed of the truth. If they are told both the truth and a lie, they will believe whatever they heard most often. And in this case, they believe the lie because they were simply told the lie more often than the truth. In their simpleton minds, the lie becomes the truth. They're idiots.

You are not type 1. You have been informed on this very board that Trump never said that the virus was a hoax.

On the last Friday of February 2020 during the first major breakout of the virus in the US, Trump held a campaign rally in South Carolina and made comments during a speech in which he accused Democrats of “politicizing” the coronavirus outbreak that left many with the impression that he had referred to the virus itself as a “hoax.” He of course was referring to Democrat comments in the media about the seriousness of the virus and that it was not just the flu. Trump did not say "the virus is a hoax" but that is exactly what he meant. His downplaying of virus, misrepresenting the facts, attacking medical experts that were cautioning the public confirms that a hoax is exactly what he thought or what he hoped the voters would think.

Apparently you believe in categorizing people which is at the heart of the greatest problems this country faces. The problem with categorizing people is that when we do that we dehumanize them. People are no longer individuals, with unique backgrounds, upbringings, genes, quirks, traits and opinions. Instead, people are symbols. They are black or white or Irish Catholic or liberal or conservative or rich or poor. When you lump people into categories, they becomes symbols not individuals. And that leads to deep resentments, persecution, harassment, riots, and bloodshed.

Now see, there you go with "he didn't directly say it, but we know what he meant" bullcrap. You Democrats have been trying to figure Trump out ever since his office was bugged, and you still don't know crap.

Fast forward to now in virus land, and you'll see that it doesn't matter on either side what was said about the virus, because this virus does what it wants to do when it wants to do it. Mask don't work, even though they might mitigate flying debris from a person sneezing or coughing if sick, but the spread isn't slowing. Trump fast tracking a vaccine is the only answer.

Mask don’t work? NOW we see Trump going to his helicopter wearing a mask and the rest of his team are now wearing mask.

Convenient timing after that side show they called a debate the other night. Guess they really really really didn't want to debate again. Ha. I'm sure Biden is just as pleased.

Biden was in close proximity for 90 minuets.... He gets a test too...

God will see to it that biden gets it.

All Biden needs to do is touch the surface where the virus is and then touch his face by putting on or taking off his mask and he has got it... Shit happens... and there isn't anything anyone can do about it unless you live in a sterile bubble..

Yup. These lefty meatheads think you can control a virus.

You can't. No matter who runs the show, no matter what they have to say, no matter what they do a pandemic kills. It can't be controlled.

It will get into any country no matter the safeguards that country institutes. Its a killer and can't be controlled.

Of course it can be controlled and reduced in spread.

It can't be eliminated entirely, until at 80 or 90% herd immunity, via vaccination. The small pox virus was killed, eliminated, is one example

because smallpox only infects humans and has no other reservoir or infection source. It also didn't mutate into differing forms like some other viruses do.

ok

But we still can control virus spread, through our actions... we have always been able to ....

With AIDS, wear a rubber...

With the Spanish flu, wear masks, cancelled schools, churches and gatherings of people together...

With measles, quarantine kids at home...

Only the Spanish Flu is applicable, and even then they had to balance risk of infection with risk of economic disaster.

What you are looking for is zero risk of infection at the cost of destroying the economy.

I m not looking for zero risk.

Well that's what your side appears to be selling.

There is no need to "sell it" Marty, it's actually FACT BASED....

Those spreading the bull crud that masks don't work to slow down the spread of infection, are the ones trying to sell the Brooklyn Bridge, to everyone.

Those saying that masks will protect you or imply they will protect you 100% are trying to sell you the bridge.

I searched all the way to the end of the internet (it's granny porn, btw), and I couldn't find anyone who said or implied masks will protect you 100%. You may have to look elsewhere for your bridge.

They imply it when they force everyone to wear them and don't tell people it only lowers your risk (actually lowering other's risk)

I guess you haven't seen the ads and signs, "I wear a mask for you". Another failure of the Trump administration is not creating a nationwide advertising campaign for mask wearing and social distancing. Of course that would be rather hypocritical when the president is mocking and downplaying it.

The President cannot mandate the wearing of garb. If he did that you guys would be accusing him of being a tyrant. Grow up.

Yes he can but cowardly he didn’t because of incompetent and ineptness.

No, he can't. Even if he did the only law enforcement agency he has that could enforce it is the FBI. He could also use other FEDERAL officers, or nationalize the guard to do it, but with the guard you run into posese commitus issues.

Yes he can. The least minimum he can do was to encourage people to wear mask. Not discouraged people not to wear mask.At the same the main source misinformation and conspiracies. That alone he failed big time.

What are his exact quotes about mask usage and requirements?

Oh dear.
His own administration policy and even his own surgeon general beg people to wear mask. On top of CDC and NIH wear that damn mask.
Trump told Americans in his town hall meeting that mask is not good because a waitress told him.
He mocked Biden for wearing mask even inside the debate. What am I missing Marty?

Wearing a mask at all, or wearing a mask in situations where it its pointless or just theater?

Then you should call Trump administration, CDC, NIH to revised their policy that mask is worthless. During the debate .......... Trump even mentioned he wear and pulled a mask from his pocket.. Don’t tell me he is lying again.

Where did they say a mask is worthless?

They ( CDC, NIH, Trump administration) never said mask is worthless. You and your fellow gullibles keep repeating mask is worthless. You can twist a wet pretzels how ever you want but you are losing.

Then why do people keep claiming trump is against using masks at all?

Trump is not against wearing mask, he just doesn't support it and that is huge. Asking millions of people to do something that is inconvenient, annoying, and has no visible personal benefit takes a lot of selling and that is one thing Trump is really good at and he won't do it. What has been desperately needed is his full support. We need Trump, Biden, Fauci, celebrities in sports and entertainment selling the country on wearing masks and social distancing. In countries such as Indonesia and Philippines that have been very successful in getting people to wear masks are doing far better than the US in cases/million and deaths/million.

Because it's dumb, inconvenient, annoying, has negative consequences.

It's not that it doesn't have a "visible personal benefit".... but rather that it has zero benefit at all. None. It simply doesn't have a benefit.

I feel bad for my co-workers. This one guy has an itchy rash every single day, from that mask. It's sad. But people would rather face others to do what they want, and have control, then what makes scientific sense.

That is not the opinion of the top medical scientists, health departments, medical researchers and just about every major medical institution in the country. Masks have proved themselves effective at stopping airborne diseases for over hundred years throughout the world. I guess you think healthcare workers and patients with communicable diseases wear them to hide their face.

People do not need to wear masks when they are alone or outdoors away from people, or when people are more than 6 feet away.

My pulmonologists told me that he recommended some type face covering in public for all his patients and he has plenty of patients with serve breathing problems. The discomfort that people feel when they first start wearing a mask is mental. Masks allow for plenty of oxygen and exhausting CO2. I have had to wear masks all day and you get use to them just like healthcare workers, firefighters, and people that work all day heavy dust do.

The fact remains infectious disease medical researchers and epidemiologist say the public should wear masks to reduce the spread of the disease and you say it has no benefit. I'll follow the science and you can follow your conspiracy theories because that's what you're going to do anyway and no amount evidence is going to change your mind.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

I don't wanna hear one more world out of Donnie's doctor or this White House as to his condition. They're LIARS.

Trump’s doctor admits he avoided saying president was on oxygen

In an optimistic briefing on President Trump’s condition Sunday morning, White House physician Dr. Sean Conley admitted to reporters he had tried to conceal the fact that the president had received oxygen at the White House.

news.yahoo.com

Turn off your tv and radio

All these trump haters refuse to do that,they could care less what credible doctors say that the numbers are inflated that the flu virus is five times more deadly,just what the idiot box in the living room is they are are interested in and claim is the almighty truth.comedy sold.

Like WHAT credible doctors are you talking about that disagree with science? Can you update us? Or any link?

It’s only been exposed on several threads in the conspiracy section over the last six months and I only made a thread on it just a month ago as well in another section.one poster recently posted how over a thousand doctors in Germany are behind these doctors in the us,do try and keep up around here and get off that deserted island you been living on.comedy gold.lol

 

[Andylusion]

The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.

When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.

You didn't say that. You said it was serious if they went to a hospital. The common cold, sends people to the hospital. Not even the flu... just the common cold.

As for in a single year.... Not relevant.

Per capita death rates are lower than the flu. Even the CDC shows that.

Besides that, we already know the death rates for Covid-19 are drastically over blown. We know that for a fact, because hospitals were paid more money if they claimed any given death was covid-19, and so they were labeling every single death they could as being a Covid death, even without even testing to see if the person had Covid.

So not worried about it.

 

[Andylusion]

Why? Other than political points.... why?

That's exactly why. If you're saying it's just done to score political points, he could have scored those political points early on.

Instead, he minimized the seriousness of the virus, got infected with the virus, and NOW decides to wear a mask, making his previous stances look ridiculous.

He minimized the seriousness of the virus...... because it wasn't serious. Covid-19 isn't serious.

Trump was right. The CDC proved that.

Did you miss the numbers put out by the CDC? I'll post them again.
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In the absolute worst case scenario, with the highest risk age group of 70+.... the maximum recorded fatality rate was 0.093.

Influenza in comparison is 0.1.

So you are trying to tell me that Covid-19 is so serious we have to have lock downs, and ban gatherings, and have people in masks..... for a fatality rate for the worst possible cases, in the highest risk age group..... of 0.093...... when the flu has an OVER ALL fatality rate of 0.1?

By that logic, we should have shut down the country for the last 200 years, over the flu.

Because if you look at the average fatality rate of all scenarios for all age groups... it's way way way lower than the flu.

Trump was dead on right. He right about the whole thing. That is not opinion... that's fact based on the evidence we have.

You want to argue that it's not serious when it landed his ass in the hospital? Good luck with that. He's going to have a REALLY hard time adjusting his covid messaging from here on.

- Tell us more about how covid isn't serious even though you were hospitalized over it.

- Tell us more about hydroxy even though you didn't actually take it when you were hospitalized.

- Tell us more about how covid is under control even though you and several members of your administration have gotten infected with it.

- Tell us more about how masks aren't important even though you are now wearing your mask.

Those political points are gone.

The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year. If merely having someone sent to the hospital, means it is a serious illness that justifies shutting down the country.....

Spectrum of clinical illness in hospitalized patients with "common cold" virus infections - PubMed

The viruses associated most frequently with the "common cold" are rhinoviruses and coronaviruses. The first prospective cohort study to determine the prevalence of rhinovirus and coronavirus infections in patients of all ages hospitalized for acute respiratory illnesses is described. Hospital...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

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The viruses associated most frequently with the "common cold" are rhinoviruses and coronaviruses. The first prospective cohort study to determine the prevalence of rhinovirus and coronavirus infections in patients of all ages hospitalized for acute respiratory illnesses is described.​

Thousands of people every single year, end up in the hospital with common cold virus infections. Thousands. People die from the common cold every year.

Why the Common Cold Can Sometimes Be Deadly

The condition is usually mild, but can be serious for some people.

www.newsweek.com

Common colds kill people.

Now two things I'd like to point out.... That first article was from 2000, and the second was from January 1st.

Both articles were written before Covid-19 existed.

So why is an article from 2000, talking about Corona virus? Because Corona viruses have been part of the common cold group for hundreds of years.

Corona has been killing people for hundreds of years. Just because we have a new variation, doesn't change the fact it is a common cold.

Back to the point. If you are going to tell me that Covid-19 is so serious, simply because someone want to the hospital for it..... then we should have shut down the entire planet for the last 200+ years, because common colds have been hospitalizing people for as long as the common cold has been around.

Again.... it's not serious. Facts over opinion.

Thank you for the sanity and common sense, but keep in mind that you are trying to get through to deeply indoctrinated msm-believers who seem to be under some sort of insane spell.

Thanks Buttercup!

You know I've always wanted to call a woman that, and not have it be considered inappropriate.

Thanks Buttercup!

 

[Flopper]

Why? You have no evidence masks work.

Post that link

Then why is Trump wearing one?

If the hospital would allowed him to go unmasked, he probably would because he doesn't care who he infects. He's the president you know, he can do anything. Covid patients have to wear masks in the hospital except in their room which has special ventilation to prevent the spread of the disease.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Take the CDC data and shove it........

Perfect. Go talk to buttercup about that.

Let me know when you two figure out the "real" number of covid deaths.

No one knows the real number...........and under the Cares act it rewarded hospitals and labs for calling it covid.............

Sell your BS and Fear mongering elsewhere.

Deaths in 2020 vs 2019 ytd, are wayyyyy up.....!!! And that was just through April I believe?

... while some individual categories of deaths are down....like auto accident deaths are down...because less people drove during th lockdown, and now working from home.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/us-reports-66000-more-deaths-than-expected-so-far-this-year/2020/04/29/b6833548-8a68-11ea-ac8a-fe9b8088e101_story.html

Ah the good old CIA controlled media tells you that and like the loyal sheep you are,you believe it,I love how you keep evading doctors have exposed this hoax that the numbers are inflated and have done their research of evidence not given to them by the corporate controlled media,that hospitals are taking huge payoffs to list practically every kind of death as Covid from a gunshot wound to the head to a fatal car accident,that many doctors that have a conscience and refused payoffs exposed their corruption because of a thing called greed,you might want to look that word up,what it means.lol

you would understand that sadly,humans give into greed when green stuff is put in front of their eyes,but many doctors had a conscience and were not taken in by greed and exposed the hospitals corruption by the higher ups.lol don t you ever get tired of embarrassing yourself on this.lol

 

[Slade3200]

Bring on the HydroxyChloroquine!

He took Hydroxichloroquine and erythromycin in May 20, 2020 as preventative maintenance. I guess it didn’t work.

You don't what he did, you only know what the media blows up your lying ass.

president Trump told the world himself, that he was doing hydroxychloroquine as a regiment, for preventative measures.

The press did not make it up, it was a corona virus press conference and Trump told the press himself...I watched it live.

It is only because he is the potus that he is sick,you obviously are clueless that he is sick now because of the strong possibility that he has been poisoned by the CiA and the corrupt media is passing it off as Covid related.hydroxyloroquine can’t be effective if someone is poisoning you.Lol.

every other patient not political as trump is,has been cured Einstein.lol



if he dies,facts will emerge the government murdered him and the lies of it being from Covid will be exposedBy independent news sources not controlled by the corporate controlled media. in this day and age,you can’t assassinate a president in broad daylight anymore with multiple shooters and lie and cover up the facts For over thirty years anymore That it was a lone gunman.in this day and age,there are too many cameras and cell phones.

Same as jfk,trump has been stepping on some powerful toes in Washington,he recently told the truth that no president ever has that wars are started for the defense contractors to make money.this is far too coincidental to happen at this time rightnow just shortly before the election especially sense for four years now the deep state trump has exposed,has been trying to get him out of office and has failed in every attempt.

oh and you mentioned him having the best of care at Walter reed hospital.actually that’s probably the worst place to go considering their history,I guess you are not aware how they participated in a phony autopsy report and coverup of the CIA,s murder of jfk.Lol




I am not so sure he even does have it,this could all be a clever ploy of his to get the sympathy vote from the undecided.

you mentioned

I thought you weren't a Trumper.

I’m not,I have been very critical of him in the past making lots of people mad around here but facts are facts and because of who the alternative is for potus,same as last time,I am voting for trump same as I did last time for the same reason because the alternative to Trump is five times worse.i hate to even think how many wars would be going on in the Mideast right now if the elite had their way and hitlery been elected as I feared would happen.

We had the most corrupt administration ever at the time under the clintons so it was a no brainer for me to vote for trump which was the first time I ever voted for a president sense I have always said both parties are corrupt and one in the same.i did so sense unlike every candidate in the past,trump was not a career politicians And I’m glad I did sense again,I hate toeven think of the thought of another Clinton in office, I will do so again as well ONLY because the alternative of Biden is five times worse the fact he went along with everything mass murdererKenyon president Obama did so again,same as last time,it’s a no brainer.

Now if the two choices were between trump and Gary Johnson,I would want nothing to do with trump But that’s not the choices obviously.

the fact that trump came out and told the truth that wars are started all the time so defense contractors can make money and he tore into our corrupt pentagon lately how they try and start wars around the world,I’m starting to like trump more and more now. I like him much better than all these evil motherfucker mass murdering monsters starting from Reagan all the way up to Obama I can say that much,that’s a no brainer especially sense he is the first president sense carter to NOT start any new wars for the elite.

only a fool would like all these trolls on this thread, would ignore how this is all too coincidental and too fishy that he just now gets this alleged deadly virus and Biden does not when he was near him recently just when the election is around the corner and hejust pissed off the elite a couple weeks ago telling the truth our corrupt government always starts wars so the defense contractors can profit from them.Does not take a genius to put two and two together that this is far too coincidental the timing of him getting this alleged deadly virus.he must be doing something right the fact he is starting to remind me a lot of our last great president jfk who was killed because he tried to stop wars from happening and also stepped on some very powerful toes in washington

There is a coup taking place again in Washington against a president obviously but this time they are not using bullets this time because they know even a stupid idiot would not fall for their lies again THIS time that a lone gunman did it,this is the modern way now to try and kill a president.

Trump got it because he he is running around like an idea ignoring all safety measures while Biden has acted safely and ironically has been mocked for weeks by Trump for doing so. Anybody with two eyes could see that Trump was playing with Fire so it was no surprise that he tested positive. All you out there that have been following his lead with the tough guy routine should learn a lesson from this

If Biden is positive next, then what ??? Oh wait, Trump did it of course.

I can hear Biden now "he just stood there breathing on me like, like, like a great big ole bear, and I couldn't get out the door, it was so terrifying mommy, i mean sister, I mean awwwwww come on mannnnnn you know what I mean, uh wait who are you again ?"

His wife then says "sigh, here we go again, Joe you're the president, and yes you just got back from hunting bears".

If Biden got it from the debate then hell yeah it’s Trumps fault. Are you kidding?! I’d be fucking pissed if I were Biden. He’s been taking care of himself and being safe and then pompous jackass comes in full of disease and mocks him for wearing a mask. How do you not understand how this thing works yet?! Unbelievable!

How do you not know how freedom of choice works ??? Do you think that you need to hold Bidens feeble hand, and guide him to every choice he makes ?? That's what many are hoping for in a Biden presidency.

Hold his hand? What are you talking about. I see a responsible leader acting appropriately during a pandemic who is healthy and I see a pompous ass acting wreckless during a pandemic who is now in the hospital. Their choices speak for themselves

Well get ready for the lock down of the century if Biden becomes (gag), the POTUS. You think Hitler was bad ? You ain't seen nothing yet. This country will spin out of control, and then back into control but in a Nazi kind of way... The possibility of wars will break out from within. It's gonna be everything the leftist have dreamed of. Becareful what you ask for, because you just might get it, then what ??

We are 6 months in under your plan and POTUS just got infected. Where would we be if we did a Hitler style lock down for 3 weeks back in March? It would have been gone in April. Think about it

You really typed that? You truly are a fucking idiot. Would have been gone in April? That has to be one of the dumbest statements you’ve ever made and that’s saying something. Do yourself favor and shut up. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Tell me what happens to the virus if everybody locked themselves in their homes for 3 weeks.

Nothing.

Did you learn nothing from Italy? They did that. That had people locked in their homes for weeks.

Family trapped in house with coronavirus infected body after funeral services refuse pickup

Health officials appear to be struggling over how to deal with the bodies of people who have died from coronavirus at home.

7news.com.au

Italy had without question, the most radical and restrictive quarantine and lock down measures in all the EU.

https://www.thelocal.it/20200904/italy-reports-new-post-lockdown-high-of-1733-cases-as-number-in-intensive-care-rises

Whoops.... didn't work.

How did the virus spread if everybody was locked in their homes for weeks?

You tell me. Italy did that, and it didn't wipe out the virus.

So instead of debating endless hypotheticals, that neither you, nor me, know the answer to... how about we look at the facts we know?

Italy did exactly what you suggested. They had the most harsh, and the most restrictive, and economy ruining lock down measures in all of Europe.

Is the virus gone? Was it at any point, gone? No.

Those are the facts. So.... saying "if only" we had done whatever, is a false claim. Your plan was tried, and it failed.

Can we move on, or do we want to sit around debating why or why not something that didn't work... somehow would have worked if only..... blaw blaw blaw?

You never answered the question so I’ll do it for you. The virus is contagious for 14 days. So if everybody locked down for three weeks it would no longer spread. Do you agree?

No, you don't get to just ignore reality to fit your position. Facts don't care about your theories.

Italy did exactly what you suggested. They had the most harsh, and the most restrictive, and economy ruining lock down measures in all of Europe.

Is the virus gone? Was it at any point, gone? No.

Those are the facts, whether you agree or not. So I'm not asking if you agree, because it doesn't matter if you agree with reality or not.

That's how this works. I'll take what has been tested and proven false, over the theories of an internet poster any day.

Italy didn’t do what I suggested. I’m making a point that you don’t seem to be able to follow so forget about it. I’d rather debate people smart enough to understand the points I’m making. I’m not in the mood to explain things like I’m talking to a 3rd grader

If they didn't do what you suggested perhaps you aren't as important to them as you think.

You’re completely lost in this conversation. Just stop trying. Let the grown ups take it from here

 

[Slade3200]

Bring on the HydroxyChloroquine!

He took Hydroxichloroquine and erythromycin in May 20, 2020 as preventative maintenance. I guess it didn’t work.

You don't what he did, you only know what the media blows up your lying ass.

president Trump told the world himself, that he was doing hydroxychloroquine as a regiment, for preventative measures.

The press did not make it up, it was a corona virus press conference and Trump told the press himself...I watched it live.

It is only because he is the potus that he is sick,you obviously are clueless that he is sick now because of the strong possibility that he has been poisoned by the CiA and the corrupt media is passing it off as Covid related.hydroxyloroquine can’t be effective if someone is poisoning you.Lol.

every other patient not political as trump is,has been cured Einstein.lol



if he dies,facts will emerge the government murdered him and the lies of it being from Covid will be exposedBy independent news sources not controlled by the corporate controlled media. in this day and age,you can’t assassinate a president in broad daylight anymore with multiple shooters and lie and cover up the facts For over thirty years anymore That it was a lone gunman.in this day and age,there are too many cameras and cell phones.

Same as jfk,trump has been stepping on some powerful toes in Washington,he recently told the truth that no president ever has that wars are started for the defense contractors to make money.this is far too coincidental to happen at this time rightnow just shortly before the election especially sense for four years now the deep state trump has exposed,has been trying to get him out of office and has failed in every attempt.

oh and you mentioned him having the best of care at Walter reed hospital.actually that’s probably the worst place to go considering their history,I guess you are not aware how they participated in a phony autopsy report and coverup of the CIA,s murder of jfk.Lol




I am not so sure he even does have it,this could all be a clever ploy of his to get the sympathy vote from the undecided.

you mentioned

I thought you weren't a Trumper.

I’m not,I have been very critical of him in the past making lots of people mad around here but facts are facts and because of who the alternative is for potus,same as last time,I am voting for trump same as I did last time for the same reason because the alternative to Trump is five times worse.i hate to even think how many wars would be going on in the Mideast right now if the elite had their way and hitlery been elected as I feared would happen.

We had the most corrupt administration ever at the time under the clintons so it was a no brainer for me to vote for trump which was the first time I ever voted for a president sense I have always said both parties are corrupt and one in the same.i did so sense unlike every candidate in the past,trump was not a career politicians And I’m glad I did sense again,I hate toeven think of the thought of another Clinton in office, I will do so again as well ONLY because the alternative of Biden is five times worse the fact he went along with everything mass murdererKenyon president Obama did so again,same as last time,it’s a no brainer.

Now if the two choices were between trump and Gary Johnson,I would want nothing to do with trump But that’s not the choices obviously.

the fact that trump came out and told the truth that wars are started all the time so defense contractors can make money and he tore into our corrupt pentagon lately how they try and start wars around the world,I’m starting to like trump more and more now. I like him much better than all these evil motherfucker mass murdering monsters starting from Reagan all the way up to Obama I can say that much,that’s a no brainer especially sense he is the first president sense carter to NOT start any new wars for the elite.

only a fool would like all these trolls on this thread, would ignore how this is all too coincidental and too fishy that he just now gets this alleged deadly virus and Biden does not when he was near him recently just when the election is around the corner and hejust pissed off the elite a couple weeks ago telling the truth our corrupt government always starts wars so the defense contractors can profit from them.Does not take a genius to put two and two together that this is far too coincidental the timing of him getting this alleged deadly virus.he must be doing something right the fact he is starting to remind me a lot of our last great president jfk who was killed because he tried to stop wars from happening and also stepped on some very powerful toes in washington

There is a coup taking place again in Washington against a president obviously but this time they are not using bullets this time because they know even a stupid idiot would not fall for their lies again THIS time that a lone gunman did it,this is the modern way now to try and kill a president.

Trump got it because he he is running around like an idea ignoring all safety measures while Biden has acted safely and ironically has been mocked for weeks by Trump for doing so. Anybody with two eyes could see that Trump was playing with Fire so it was no surprise that he tested positive. All you out there that have been following his lead with the tough guy routine should learn a lesson from this

If Biden is positive next, then what ??? Oh wait, Trump did it of course.

I can hear Biden now "he just stood there breathing on me like, like, like a great big ole bear, and I couldn't get out the door, it was so terrifying mommy, i mean sister, I mean awwwwww come on mannnnnn you know what I mean, uh wait who are you again ?"

His wife then says "sigh, here we go again, Joe you're the president, and yes you just got back from hunting bears".

If Biden got it from the debate then hell yeah it’s Trumps fault. Are you kidding?! I’d be fucking pissed if I were Biden. He’s been taking care of himself and being safe and then pompous jackass comes in full of disease and mocks him for wearing a mask. How do you not understand how this thing works yet?! Unbelievable!

How do you not know how freedom of choice works ??? Do you think that you need to hold Bidens feeble hand, and guide him to every choice he makes ?? That's what many are hoping for in a Biden presidency.

Hold his hand? What are you talking about. I see a responsible leader acting appropriately during a pandemic who is healthy and I see a pompous ass acting wreckless during a pandemic who is now in the hospital. Their choices speak for themselves

Well get ready for the lock down of the century if Biden becomes (gag), the POTUS. You think Hitler was bad ? You ain't seen nothing yet. This country will spin out of control, and then back into control but in a Nazi kind of way... The possibility of wars will break out from within. It's gonna be everything the leftist have dreamed of. Becareful what you ask for, because you just might get it, then what ??

We are 6 months in under your plan and POTUS just got infected. Where would we be if we did a Hitler style lock down for 3 weeks back in March? It would have been gone in April. Think about it

You really typed that? You truly are a fucking idiot. Would have been gone in April? That has to be one of the dumbest statements you’ve ever made and that’s saying something. Do yourself favor and shut up. You’re embarrassing yourself.

Tell me what happens to the virus if everybody locked themselves in their homes for 3 weeks.

Nothing.

Did you learn nothing from Italy? They did that. That had people locked in their homes for weeks.

Family trapped in house with coronavirus infected body after funeral services refuse pickup

Health officials appear to be struggling over how to deal with the bodies of people who have died from coronavirus at home.

7news.com.au

Italy had without question, the most radical and restrictive quarantine and lock down measures in all the EU.

https://www.thelocal.it/20200904/italy-reports-new-post-lockdown-high-of-1733-cases-as-number-in-intensive-care-rises

Whoops.... didn't work.

How did the virus spread if everybody was locked in their homes for weeks?

You tell me. Italy did that, and it didn't wipe out the virus.

So instead of debating endless hypotheticals, that neither you, nor me, know the answer to... how about we look at the facts we know?

Italy did exactly what you suggested. They had the most harsh, and the most restrictive, and economy ruining lock down measures in all of Europe.

Is the virus gone? Was it at any point, gone? No.

Those are the facts. So.... saying "if only" we had done whatever, is a false claim. Your plan was tried, and it failed.

Can we move on, or do we want to sit around debating why or why not something that didn't work... somehow would have worked if only..... blaw blaw blaw?

You never answered the question so I’ll do it for you. The virus is contagious for 14 days. So if everybody locked down for three weeks it would no longer spread. Do you agree?

No, you don't get to just ignore reality to fit your position. Facts don't care about your theories.

Italy did exactly what you suggested. They had the most harsh, and the most restrictive, and economy ruining lock down measures in all of Europe.

Is the virus gone? Was it at any point, gone? No.

Those are the facts, whether you agree or not. So I'm not asking if you agree, because it doesn't matter if you agree with reality or not.

That's how this works. I'll take what has been tested and proven false, over the theories of an internet poster any day.

Italy didn’t do what I suggested. I’m making a point that you don’t seem to be able to follow so forget about it. I’d rather debate people smart enough to understand the points I’m making. I’m not in the mood to explain things like I’m talking to a 3rd grader

Did I say I cared what mood you are in? You don't have to respond to anything.

And yes Italy did. People were confined to their homes for days on end.

If lock downs, and such had any positive effect, Italy should be the shining example of what a successful eradication of Covid-19 is.

They blocked roads. Closed ALL businesses. Shut down all schools. Banned all gatherings. Had people confined to their homes. Rerouted all mass transit to not even travel through the cities in quarantine.

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Entire cities were blocked off, and completely empty.

Did they eliminate covid-19? No.

In fact, Italy still ended up being one of the worst hit, in spite of all the lock down measures.

Facts don't care about your theories. You can sit and theorize all you want about how well your brilliant plan would have worked, but the facts don't support that claim, no matter how much it seems to make sense to you.

If everybody in Italy was locked in their homes for three weeks then how did the virus spread. Please enlighten me

 

[Andylusion]

The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.

When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.

1968 Pandemic (H3N2 virus) | Pandemic Influenza (Flu) | CDC

Everything you need to know about the flu illness, including symptoms, treatment and prevention.

www.cdc.gov

Country didn't shut down...........and ratio to the current population not much different.

ASSUME definition for Covid death.............let that sink in.............the definition on the death certificate was BS this time.

Did that reach 214,000 American deaths? No.

Try again.

So you do understand what per-capita means? Like how if there are only 170 Million people, and 100,000 die, that this is nearly identical to having 330 million people, and having 200,000 die? With the difference being that that 1968 flu, killed 4 million people globally, and Covid-19 has killed less than 1/4th as many?

Do you not get that? Is that too hard? For most of us, we get it. Do you not get it?

Man public school education really does suck....

 

[LA RAM FAN]

The flu routinely sends people to the hospitals every single year.

When is the last time the flu killed 214,000 Americans in a year? I'll wait.

You didn't say that. You said it was serious if they went to a hospital. The common cold, sends people to the hospital. Not even the flu... just the common cold.

As for in a single year.... Not relevant.

Per capita death rates are lower than the flu. Even the CDC shows that.

Besides that, we already know the death rates for Covid-19 are drastically over blown. We know that for a fact, because hospitals were paid more money if they claimed any given death was covid-19, and so they were labeling every single death they could as being a Covid death, even without even testing to see if the person had Covid.

So not worried about it.

I’ve taken the trump haters to school too many times to remember on this thread posting that fact about inflated deaths till I was blue in the the face,they of course though pretend you never posted it because it shoots down their lies they parrot from the corporate controlled media that this is a deadly virus..lol

 

[Slade3200]

All Trump should be doing is promoting the CDC guidelines. But he does the opposite almost every day. Take today. Do you think the CDC would recommend a Covid positive patient take a ride in the car to wave at people? Don’t you think he put the driver at risk? For a photo op?!?!

Again, you ignore most of what I posted. Trump has not told anyone to not listen to the CDC so you can put that lie to rest. You're just looking for anything to denigrate Trump, like you always do.

I didn’t say he told people not to listen to the CDC. His actions promote going against the guidelines. He holds crowded events and puts chairs in a way so people stand shoulder to shoulder. He mocks people who wear masks to crowds who are yelling all over eachother without masks on. This is how the virus spreads. This is against CDC guidelines. It’s like a pit full retarded puppets .

 

[Andylusion]

This from NPR:

Mary Trump Says Trump Family Saw Illness As 'Unforgivable Weakness'

The president's niece says illness was seen as "unacceptable" by Donald Trump and his father, Fred Trump. President Trump has been diagnosed with COVID-19.

www.npr.org

It fits right in with all of the other brainless attempts to project masculinity.

Somehow that right there, explains a lot to me. So in left-wing world, being pathetic is promoted? Because otherwise you are engaged in a "brainless attempt to project masculinity", so people should be as pathetic and weak as possible in left-wing world.

 

[Slade3200]

Does nothing yet doctors wear them and recommend them but I guess the social media trolls know better. Thank god for people like you keeping us informed!!!!

Who said masks do nothing for doctors in a medical health care setting? That would be no one.

Many on this board. Ask bob for one.

also my comment did not claim what you said.... my comment points to the fact that doctors wear mask and they recommend that other wear masks. Trumps doctors, the best in the world, did this TODAY. Wake the fuck up

 

[Muhammed]

Oh god talk about the most retarded post,this is as comical as penelopes asinine ramblings,oh what a brainwashed sheep we have.lol

Please read this post.

You're Still Not "Selectively Editing".. Shape Up...

I'd say most members ARE helping with our helpless situation of having a bug in Xenforo S/Ware that Xenforo has no interest in fixing apparently.. You're POUNDING THE REPLY button like a set of trained lab monkeys. STOP IT !!! If you have no idea what I'm screeching about -- you're probably...

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[candycorn]