trump begs Florida judge to restore his Twitter account

[FA_Q2]

Why is this bloated narcissistic, dolt still in the news? The more attention, bad or good, that you give this pathetic orange dufus the more he seeks attention.

Because people love to watch things they either love or hate.

Just to see what happens next.

 

[FA_Q2]

Aside from your ignorance that the government owns the Internet... Twitter doesn't even transport it's data across the Internet. ISP's do that. ISP's are common carriers, companies like Twitter are not.

It is ironic the ones that call government ownership of anything whatsoever is communism but they do not seem to care one iota about declaring the government owns the entire internet.

 

[kaz]

Yes, yes. I know.

Wowa, calm down there Chief. I hit another nerve, huh?

 

[Aldo Raine]

you mean the one that applies to the Govt and not private businesses?

That First Amendment?

Just stop, you can't fix stupid. The tardherd doesn't really believe in the constitution. And we damn sure know they do not believe in facts!!!!
MAGA

 

[kaz]

No, the quote was in this thread and it does not matter what topic you were trying to apply it to

So you can take my response to one post and apply it to another unrelated post as long as it's the the same thread.

Wow, you're a liar and frankly an ass. What a pile of bull shit. I did not say what you said I did. You literally took my statement in one post and claimed I said it on a different subject. I did not mean what you said and I do not think what you said. It was a lie and you are a liar.

Respond to what I said ass hat. I did not say the crap you made up. And go fuck yourself, liar. When you apply what I said in one post to a different subject, that is a misquote. Usually it's only leftists I need to point that out to. Now it's leftists and you. Misquote = lie

 

[Rigby5]

False. The government built ARPANET but the Internet is much more than that. They do not own the Internet.



False. Paying a fee for the service is a requirement to constitute a common carrier.

Common Carrier​

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A common carrier is a person or a commercial enterprise that transports passengers or goods for a fee and establishes that their service is open to the general public. Typical examples of common carriers include, a shipowner, railroad, airline, taxi service, etc. A private carrier, on the other hand, is a person or a commercial enterprise that only agrees in particular circumstances to transport passengers or goods. Private carriers differ from common carriers because they don’t establish that their service is open to the general public. In other words, private carriers enter into a contract with each customer without the assumption that a similar contract will be available to the next customer.​

ARPANet was in the 1960s. The Internet was mostly for government and schools until 1991.
Only then were private companies allowed to use it much at all.
The government built, runs, regulates, and owns the internet, always has and always will.

Of course Twitter does not transport anything.
That is the whole point, in that Twitter than has to abide by the rules of those who actually do all the transporting.
Twitter created and owns nothing, so then does not get to set ANY rules at all.

But since Twitter does not create, alter, shape or form content in any way, (according to their own promises), it the is a common carrier.
And it deliberately claimed to be a common carrier in order to avoid civil liabilities for damaging stuff that does get posted on Twitter occasionally.
If they were not common carrier, then they could be sued and spend a lot of money in court.

Read your own def of private carrier.
The Terms of Service agreement is individually negotiated per customer.
{... In other words, private carriers enter into a contract with each customer without the assumption that a similar contract will be available to the next customer. ...}
And that clearly is not true with Twitter. Every customer is generic.
Trump is the first and only person ever banned, which is clearly discriminatory, dangerous, and illegal.
No democracy could survive such abusive social media.

 

[Rigby5]

Aside from your ignorance that the government owns the Internet... Twitter doesn't even transport it's data across the Internet. ISP's do that. ISP's are common carriers, companies like Twitter are not.

Wrong.
There is long haul and short haul, but Twitter most definitely is part of the storage and transport system.
The whole point of Twitter's attraction is that it does not at all provide any content of its own, so each person feels like they are famous and each is given their own stage.

Your argument is like claiming radio stations are not common carriers because they get their music from larger satellite feeds.
The distance of transport is not relevant.

 

[kaz]

What's the point in government if you can't use it to bully private companies?

Trump asks Florida judge to force Twitter to restart his account

Trump argued the social media company was "coerced" by members of the U.S. Congress to suspend his account.

www.nbcnews.com

A rational mind starts with the question whether we have a monopoly or not. Whatever you think of the rules, we clearly do have a monopoly. As a Democrat worshiper you know nothing about business, but American companies are incredibly clever. If they could compete with social media giants, they would. Your view that they for some reason decided not to and therefore there is no monopoly is fucked up on multiple levels

 

[Faun]

ARPANet was in the 1960s. The Internet was mostly for government and schools until 1991.
Only then were private companies allowed to use it much at all.
The government built, runs, regulates, and owns the internet, always has and always will.

Of course Twitter does not transport anything.
That is the whole point, in that Twitter than has to abide by the rules of those who actually do all the transporting.
Twitter created and owns nothing, so then does not get to set ANY rules at all.

But since Twitter does not create, alter, shape or form content in any way, (according to their own promises), it the is a common carrier.
And it deliberately claimed to be a common carrier in order to avoid civil liabilities for damaging stuff that does get posted on Twitter occasionally.
If they were not common carrier, then they could be sued and spend a lot of money in court.

Read your own def of private carrier.
The Terms of Service agreement is individually negotiated per customer.
{... In other words, private carriers enter into a contract with each customer without the assumption that a similar contract will be available to the next customer. ...}
And that clearly is not true with Twitter. Every customer is generic.
Trump is the first and only person ever banned, which is clearly discriminatory, dangerous, and illegal.
No democracy could survive such abusive social media.

You're fucking insane.

You agree Twitter doesn't transport anything, yet you claim they're a common carrier despite transporting people or goods is a required element of a common carrier.

You admit they don't charge tweeters a fee for their service, yet you claim they're a common carrier despite charging a fee is a required element of a common carrier.

And as far as Trump, no, he is neither the first, nor the only member of Twitter to be banned.

Democracy will survive. Your brain? It's already dead.

 

[Rigby5]

It is ironic the ones that call government ownership of anything whatsoever is communism but they do not seem to care one iota about declaring the government owns the entire internet.

When you can only have one, then it is an inherent monopoly, and it then had better be government owned.
A government monopoly at least can be somewhat controlled by voting.
When it is private, you get no say in it at all.

But in reality EVERYONE knows socialism and communism are vastly superior to capitalism.
There is not a single family, religious order, tribe, community, etc., that is any good, that is not socialist or communist.
Everything good about the US, such as public school, social security, public transportation, fire/police, etc., are all socialism/communism.

 

[FA_Q2]

So you can take my response to one post and apply it to another unrelated post as long as it's the the same thread.

Wow, you're a liar and frankly an ass. What a pile of bull shit. I did not say what you said I did. You literally took my statement in one post and claimed I said it on a different subject. I did not mean what you said and I do not think what you said. It was a lie and you are a liar.

Respond to what I said ass hat. I did not say the crap you made up. And go fuck yourself, liar. When you apply what I said in one post to a different subject, that is a misquote. Usually it's only leftists I need to point that out to. Now it's leftists and you. Misquote = lie

As DBlack asked already, then define what you meant instead of just screaming it was on another topic.

You say I lied when you clearly cut out the relevant part of my post:

"I see no other way to take that "

You could have just responded with how you think I should have taken it. Instead you keep name calling instead. And tell me to go fuck myself....

And you think it is I that is having the stupid moment?

 

[FA_Q2]

When you can only have one, then it is an inherent monopoly, and it then had better be government owned.
A government monopoly at least can be somewhat controlled by voting.
When it is private, you get no say in it at all.

But in reality EVERYONE knows socialism and communism are vastly superior to capitalism.
There is not a single family, religious order, tribe, community, etc., that is any good, that is not socialist or communist.
Everything good about the US, such as public school, social security, public transportation, fire/police, etc., are all socialism/communism.

Man, you really are a nutcase.

 

[Faun]

Wrong.
There is long haul and short haul, but Twitter most definitely is part of the storage and transport system.
The whole point of Twitter's attraction is that it does not at all provide any content of its own, so each person feels like they are famous and each is given their own stage.

Your argument is like claiming radio stations are not common carriers because they get their music from larger satellite feeds.
The distance of transport is not relevant.

Now you're arguing with yourself...

Of course Twitter does not transport anything.
That is the whole point, in that Twitter than has to abide by the rules of those who actually do all the transporting.

Twitter doesn't even transport it's data across the Internet. ISP's do that. ISP's are common carriers, companies like Twitter are not.

Wrong.

First you say they don't transport data then you say they do.

 

[Rigby5]

You're fucking insane.

You agree Twitter doesn't transport anything, yet you claim they're a common carrier despite transporting people or goods is a required element of a common carrier.

You admit they don't charge tweeters a fee for their service, yet you claim they're a common carrier despite charging a fee is a required element of a common carrier.

And as far as Trump, no, he is neither the first, nor the only member of Twitter to be banned.

Democracy will survive. Your brain? It's already dead.

Wrong.
If you knew anything about network protocol, the main parts are the Transport Layers.
I said Twitter does not do the long haul, but does do the short haul.
Twitter transports.
In fact, storage, retrieval, and transport is all they do.
They do nothing creative on their own that would qualify for them to be anything but a common carrier.
Even radio stations are less of common carriers because they at least provide a DJ.
Twitter most certainly DOES charge a fee for services, but they simply send the collective bill to advertisers instead of content posters.

Democracy can not possibly survive arbitrary media censorship.
If Twitter does not relent, they should be burnt to the ground as the danger they obviously are.
Only an evil dictator would ever support arbitrary censorship.

 

[Rigby5]

Man, you really are a nutcase.

Care to provide any details to your opinion?

 

[Rigby5]

Now you're arguing with yourself...

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First you say they don't transport data then you say they do.

Just bad choice of words.
I meant Twitter does not do any significant transporting, but still that is all Twitter does.
To do anything else, it would have to be generating content.
It does not do that.
It only transport the content of others.
The fact it does not do much of the transporting in comparison with ISPs, is irrelevant.
All that means is that Twitter is bound even more by the IPS Terms of Service, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination or censorship.

 

[kaz]

As DBlack asked already, then define what you meant instead of just screaming it was on another topic.

You say I lied when you clearly cut out the relevant part of my post:

"I see no other way to take that "

You could have just responded with how you think I should have taken it. Instead you keep name calling instead. And tell me to go fuck myself....

And you think it is I that is having the stupid moment?

You can';t take my quote on one subject and apply it to another you totally dishonest piece of shit. Go fuck yourself

 

[Faun]

Wrong.
If you knew anything about network protocol, the main parts are the Transport Layers.
I said Twitter does not do the long haul, but does do the short haul.
Twitter transports.
In fact, storage, retrieval, and transport is all they do.
They do nothing creative on their own that would qualify for them to be anything but a common carrier.
Even radio stations are less of common carriers because they at least provide a DJ.
Twitter most certainly DOES charge a fee for services, but they simply send the collective bill to advertisers instead of content posters.

Democracy can not possibly survive arbitrary media censorship.
If Twitter does not relent, they should be burnt to the ground as the danger they obviously are.
Only an evil dictator would ever support arbitrary censorship.

Dumbfuck, data transport is done by ISP's. And storage has nothing to do with it. That reflects how crazy you are.

As far as your claim of some sort of "short haul," there is no thing. People either upload data to Twitter, which is "carried" from their device to Twitter by an ISP; or people download data from Twitter which is "carried" from Twitter to their device by an ISP.

The ISP is the transport layer. ISP's charge a fee for that service. That's why ISP's are common carriers while private Internet businesses are not.

 

[Faun]

Just bad choice of words.
I meant Twitter does not do any significant transporting, but still that is all Twitter does.
To do anything else, it would have to be generating content.
It does not do that.
It only transport the content of others.
The fact it does not do much of the transporting in comparison with ISPs, is irrelevant.
All that means is that Twitter is bound even more by the IPS Terms of Service, which prohibit arbitrary discrimination or censorship.

Oh? What data is Twitter transporting?

 

[Faun]

Care to provide any details to your opinion?

Yeah, just read any of your posts.