Trump: Bush lied about reason for invading Iraq

[Synthaholic]

Actually, he said, "They lied"

Dunno if anyone lied. Do know, many used false info to make a point. Whether they knew it to be false at the time, is not known.

However, chemical weapons were found in Iraq.

Cheney definitely lied when he said unequivocally that Atta had met with Iraqi government officials in Germany. Also:

Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,[14] and repeated the statement in another appearance on September 14, 2003, saying "We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization. We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."[15] and once again in an interview with National Public Radio in January, 2004, stating that there had been "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaeda based on evidence including Iraq's purported harboring of Yasin.[16]

In the same Meet the Press interviews, Cheney implied a connection between Iraq and Mohamed Atta; "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the September 11 terrorists attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."[14] and "With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop any more of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know."[15] Czech officials have since backed off of this claim, and even Cheney has since acknowledged that the notion "that the meeting ever took place" has been "pretty well knocked down now."[17] (See Mohamed Atta's alleged Prague connection.)
​

Another lie:

And for any analysts unclear on what the administration wanted to hear, Vice President Dick Cheney, whom several Bush officials told me was not as smart as the president, made sure they got the message on August 26, 2002, when he delivered a public speech that had not been vetted by the White House or cleared by Bush. “There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

The clear message to the worker bees at the CIA: The White House knew Saddam had the weapons. Disagree at peril to your career.​

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html

 

[Si modo]

The chemical weapons found that were from 1991 were viable.

Yes sir I remember ole George coming on tv and explaining how we had to invade Iraq because there were known to be some old chemical weapons from 1991 laying around where kids could get a hold of them.

And by God it was in Americas best interest to invade this country, oust the leader, spend trillions and get thousands of Americans killed and maimed because Saddam had some old chemical weapons laying around from 1991. Which we probably supplied him with the materials to make.

Anyone else remember Bush saying that?

Then, Bush....and Clinton, and Kerry, and many others did not lie about stockpiles.

 

[Muhammed]

Trump has his history wrong regarding this issue.

 

[Dot Com]

Actually, he said, "They lied"

Dunno if anyone lied. Do know, many used false info to make a point. Whether they knew it to be false at the time, is not known.

However, chemical weapons were found in Iraq.

Cheney definitely lied when he said unequivocally that Atta had met with Iraqi government officials in Germany. Also:

Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,[14] and repeated the statement in another appearance on September 14, 2003, saying "We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization. We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."[15] and once again in an interview with National Public Radio in January, 2004, stating that there had been "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaeda based on evidence including Iraq's purported harboring of Yasin.[16]

In the same Meet the Press interviews, Cheney implied a connection between Iraq and Mohamed Atta; "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the September 11 terrorists attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."[14] and "With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop any more of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know."[15] Czech officials have since backed off of this claim, and even Cheney has since acknowledged that the notion "that the meeting ever took place" has been "pretty well knocked down now."[17] (See Mohamed Atta's alleged Prague connection.)
​

Another lie:

And for any analysts unclear on what the administration wanted to hear, Vice President Dick Cheney, whom several Bush officials told me was not as smart as the president, made sure they got the message on August 26, 2002, when he delivered a public speech that had not been vetted by the White House or cleared by Bush. “There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

The clear message to the worker bees at the CIA: The White House knew Saddam had the weapons. Disagree at peril to your career.​

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html

The below are actual quotes lol

 

[Synthaholic]

Still, WMDs were found in Iraq.

But not what Cheney said:

“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

Clearly a lie.

 

[Si modo]

Actually, he said, "They lied"

Dunno if anyone lied. Do know, many used false info to make a point. Whether they knew it to be false at the time, is not known.

However, chemical weapons were found in Iraq.

Cheney definitely lied when he said unequivocally that Atta had met with Iraqi government officials in Germany. Also:

Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,[14] and repeated the statement in another appearance on September 14, 2003, saying "We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization. We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."[15] and once again in an interview with National Public Radio in January, 2004, stating that there had been "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaeda based on evidence including Iraq's purported harboring of Yasin.[16]

In the same Meet the Press interviews, Cheney implied a connection between Iraq and Mohamed Atta; "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the September 11 terrorists attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."[14] and "With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop any more of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know."[15] Czech officials have since backed off of this claim, and even Cheney has since acknowledged that the notion "that the meeting ever took place" has been "pretty well knocked down now."[17] (See Mohamed Atta's alleged Prague connection.)
​

Another lie:

And for any analysts unclear on what the administration wanted to hear, Vice President Dick Cheney, whom several Bush officials told me was not as smart as the president, made sure they got the message on August 26, 2002, when he delivered a public speech that had not been vetted by the White House or cleared by Bush. “There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

The clear message to the worker bees at the CIA: The White House knew Saddam had the weapons. Disagree at peril to your career.​

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html

The below are actual quotes lol

And, we did find chemical weapons.

*sigh*

Take a breath...breathe...

It's not the end of the world

 

[boilermaker55]

Take a look at what haliburtons stock did during and after the war. Take alook.

 

[Synthaholic]

Who was/is the biggest threat to the US?

Saddam
Mubarak
Qadaffi
Assad
Kohmeni

None of them. The North Korean Kims, whom Bush ignored, allowing them to go nuclear.

 

[Si modo]

Still, WMDs were found in Iraq.

But not what Cheney said:

“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

Clearly a lie.

How?

Chemical weapons were found in Iraq. He had amassed them.

He was no friend of the USA at the time, so what he would do with them is not too hard to take a stab at a guess.

 

[boilermaker55]

Kind of calloused response, because for over 4,000 US soldiers and hundreds of thousands if not millions of Iraqis it was the end of the world

Actually, he said, "They lied"

Dunno if anyone lied. Do know, many used false info to make a point. Whether they knew it to be false at the time, is not known.

However, chemical weapons were found in Iraq.

Cheney definitely lied when he said unequivocally that Atta had met with Iraqi government officials in Germany. Also:

Vice President Dick Cheney had told Meet the Press on December 9, 2001, that Iraq was harboring Abdul Rahman Yasin, a suspect in the 1993 World Trade Center bombing,[14] and repeated the statement in another appearance on September 14, 2003, saying "We learned more and more that there was a relationship between Iraq and al-Qaida that stretched back through most of the decade of the '90s, that it involved training, for example, on BW and CW, that al-Qaida sent personnel to Baghdad to get trained on the systems that are involved. The Iraqis providing bomb-making expertise and advice to the al-Qaida organization. We know, for example, in connection with the original World Trade Center bombing in '93 that one of the bombers was Iraqi, returned to Iraq after the attack of '93. And we’ve learned subsequent to that, since we went into Baghdad and got into the intelligence files, that this individual probably also received financing from the Iraqi government as well as safe haven."[15] and once again in an interview with National Public Radio in January, 2004, stating that there had been "overwhelming evidence" of a relationship between Saddam and al-Qaeda based on evidence including Iraq's purported harboring of Yasin.[16]

In the same Meet the Press interviews, Cheney implied a connection between Iraq and Mohamed Atta; "The Czech interior minister said today that an Iraqi intelligence officer met with Mohammed Atta, one of the ringleaders of the September 11 terrorists attacks on the United States, just five months before the synchronized hijackings and mass killings were carried out."[14] and "With respect to 9/11, of course, we’ve had the story that’s been public out there. The Czechs alleged that Mohamed Atta, the lead attacker, met in Prague with a senior Iraqi intelligence official five months before the attack, but we’ve never been able to develop any more of that yet either in terms of confirming it or discrediting it. We just don’t know."[15] Czech officials have since backed off of this claim, and even Cheney has since acknowledged that the notion "that the meeting ever took place" has been "pretty well knocked down now."[17] (See Mohamed Atta's alleged Prague connection.)
​

Another lie:

And for any analysts unclear on what the administration wanted to hear, Vice President Dick Cheney, whom several Bush officials told me was not as smart as the president, made sure they got the message on August 26, 2002, when he delivered a public speech that had not been vetted by the White House or cleared by Bush. “There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

The clear message to the worker bees at the CIA: The White House knew Saddam had the weapons. Disagree at peril to your career.​

http://www.newsweek.com/2015/05/29/dick-cheneys-biggest-lie-333097.html

The below are actual quotes lol

And, we did find chemical weapons.

*sigh*

Take a breath...breathe...

It's not the end of the world

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Trump says George W. Bush ‘lied’ to get U.S. into Iraq

I agree w/ him

Any Trump- supporters care to chime-in, agreeing? I don't expect this thread to have many responses given all Trump-supporters on this forum are rw'ers

Today on the Sunday news circuit Trump DENIED making that claim.

Trump lies so much I don't think he even knows he's doing it.

 

[Dot Com]

Take a look at what haliburtons stock did during and after the war. Take alook.

Odd that their former employee was VP as well

 

[Si modo]

Oh...I apologize. Facts seems to upset you too much.

Can I buy you an ice cream, boiler?

 

[Dot Com]

Trump says George W. Bush ‘lied’ to get U.S. into Iraq

I agree w/ him

Any Trump- supporters care to chime-in, agreeing? I don't expect this thread to have many responses given all Trump-supporters on this forum are rw'ers

Today on the Sunday news circuit Trump DENIED making that claim.

Trump lies so much I don't think he even knows he's doing it.

It isn't the 1st time he's said it and its on tape

 

[Synthaholic]

And, we did find chemical weapons.

Finding old canisters of chemical weapons in some rusted old shed is not the same as:

“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

"Now has" means that he was actively pursuing.

"Amassing them" means that he has actively acquired them.

"No doubt" means that it is not in question.

Clearly lies.

 

[Si modo]

Trump says George W. Bush ‘lied’ to get U.S. into Iraq

I agree w/ him

Any Trump- supporters care to chime-in, agreeing? I don't expect this thread to have many responses given all Trump-supporters on this forum are rw'ers

Today on the Sunday news circuit Trump DENIED making that claim.

Trump lies so much I don't think he even knows he's doing it.

That's because Trump said, "THEY lied"

 

[Remodeling Maidiac]

Trump says George W. Bush ‘lied’ to get U.S. into Iraq

I agree w/ him

Any Trump- supporters care to chime-in, agreeing? I don't expect this thread to have many responses given all Trump-supporters on this forum are rw'ers

Today on the Sunday news circuit Trump DENIED making that claim.

Trump lies so much I don't think he even knows he's doing it.

It isn't the 1st time he's said it and its on tape

I thought my point was simple & direct yet you somehow managed to miss it lol

 

[Synthaholic]

Chemical weapons were found in Iraq. He had amassed them.

Past tense. Not what Cheney said.

 

[Camp]

But, loads of WMDs were found in Iraq.

No, they weren't. No matter how many times you say that it will not be true. Ingredients that were known about by UN weapons inspectors are now counted as weapons by the lamer and more dishonest and desperate Bush defenders. Ingredients are not weapons. In addition, some old abandoned weapons were found. Since they were not unusable, they were not qualified as WMD's either.
If you know of real WMD's being found provide an objective link.

First of all, the UN inspectors either aren't chemists or only have a basic knowledge of chemistry.

All the weapons found - stockpiles - were quite viable (meaning, they are capable of doing just what they were designed for - killing hundreds or thousands).

The old weapons were completely usable; the purpose of a chemical weapon is to kill people. The old weapons could do just that quite effectively.

You don't want to believe facts. I can provide links to thousands of weapons found, however, the links show many (not all) were from 1991. You don't want to believe those are chemical weapons, even though you clearly have little understanding of the chemistry of chemical weapons.

You have already stated that "ingredients" are not weapons, so links showing Iraq's chemical industry miraculously started being in the business of chemical weapons precursor production when UN inspections were pending.

Nope, nothing to see here for the blind.

You like to make shit up. The weapons inspectors were experts and particularly expert about chemical and biological weapons.

The weapons found, starting with the three dozen buried mortar rounds fill with mustard gas by the Dutch in 2004 were rusting and leaking and unusable as mortar rounds. If you know of usable and viable WMD's found you should be able to provide an objective link. You say you can provide links to prove thousands of WMD's. Let's start out with one, your favorite, most objective and factual one.

 

[Si modo]

And, we did find chemical weapons.

Finding old canisters of chemical weapons in some rusted old shed is not the same as:

“There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction,’’ he said. “There is no doubt he is amassing them to use against our friends, against our allies and against us.”

"Now has" means that he was actively pursuing.

"Amassing them" means that he has actively acquired them.

"No doubt" means that it is not in question.

Clearly lies.

Age of the weapons is irrelevant. They kill - hundreds and thousands.

He WAS actively pursuing. He transferred precursor production from his defense to chemical industry.

I have little doubt, too. Saddam had already used them.




It would be nice if folks read the thread before posting in a panic.