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Yes, it is according to the US Constitution.Clearly you are against helping the people, which is a politicians job.
Is it?
...and the debt ceiling raised, did he not?I just don't think Trump got anything for caving last week. He got some hurricane relief passed, but that would have passed eventually anyway.
...and the debt ceiling raised, did he not?I just don't think Trump got anything for caving last week. He got some hurricane relief passed, but that would have passed eventually anyway.
Originally it was to be dems only.
McConnell and Ryan were going to raised the ceiling for 18 mos instead of 3. They did intend to tie that to promises of spending cuts (or reductions in the growth of soc sec/medicare). Trump cut them off at the knees. The question is why'd he do that? Even Cohen and Muchken advised against it.
And if the Republicans don't pay attention, the same forces that elected Trump instead of the establishment candidates will turn them out in the mid terms. People are fed up with the status quo.
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The Republicans could lose the House however it will be because Trump wants to appeal to the 30% rather than the majority of voters. Trump is as responsible for that.
Trump won in large part because he threatened the entrenched power elite. If it is seen as so opposed to him as to make governing impossible, they will be hurt.
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A full 25% of Trump's support came from voters who were voting against Clinton not for Trump. Trump is a member of the power elite as he has bragged about buying politicians.
Irrelevant. His base is ticked off at the power elite and they see Trump as their only chance to even crack the facade in Washington.
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Sure it i s, it worked in 2016, dude.Irrelevant. His base is not enough to win in 2020.
I don't even pretend to have a guess as to what Trump's up to. I am pretty sure that there is zero chance we will get any tax reform that lowers rates while also not increasing the deficit, and any reform we do get will NOT make markets more transparent, which is what the Reagan tax reform accomplished.McConnell and Ryan were going to raised the ceiling for 18 mos instead of 3. They did intend to tie that to promises of spending cuts (or reductions in the growth of soc sec/medicare). Trump cut them off at the knees. The question is why'd he do that? Even Cohen and Muchken advised against it.
I GUESS Trump is tired of dealing solely through the GOP leadership because he realizes that they are undercutting him, and so he is going to open the table to all parties and try to get something rese3mbling his promised agenda passed with some moderate Dem help.
BTW, I think it is Munchen, not Munchkin, lol.
McConnell and Ryan were going to raised the ceiling for 18 mos instead of 3. They did intend to tie that to promises of spending cuts (or reductions in the growth of soc sec/medicare). Trump cut them off at the knees. The question is why'd he do that? Even Cohen and Muchken advised against it.
I GUESS Trump is tired of dealing solely through the GOP leadership because he realizes that they are undercutting him, and so he is going to open the table to all parties and try to get something rese3mbling his promised agenda passed with some moderate Dem help.
BTW, I think it is Munchen, not Munchkin, lol.
His base is not 48%, and mathematically the EC has never produced a result like 2016 ever before.Sure it i s, it worked in 2016, dude.Irrelevant. His base is not enough to win in 2020.
I am more optimistic.I don't even pretend to have a guess as to what Trump's up to. I am pretty sure that there is zero chance we will get any tax reform that lowers rates while also not increasing the deficit, and any reform we do get will NOT make markets more transparent, which is what the Reagan tax reform accomplished.
Doesnt Trump have to work with them too?Pelosi and Schumer are moderate?
His base is not 48%, and mathematically the EC has never produced a result like 2016 ever before.
Yeah, but not that % differential. And Lincoln won in a three way race.His base is not 48%, and mathematically the EC has never produced a result like 2016 ever before.
Oh come on, you know that US Presidents can be elected by plurality, in effect, just like Lincoln was.
this deal was the best thing that ever happened for the Republicans in congress and the Senate....don't let the Republicans crocodile tears and faux shock they are displaying confuse.It is about time.
Fuck Ryan and McConnel.
Trump Bypasses Republicans to Strike Deal on Debt Limit and Harvey Aid
Assuming that he had the support of Mr. Trump, Mr. Ryan responded Wednesday morning by calling the Democrats’ proposal “ridiculous and disgraceful,” saying “it could put in jeopardy the kind of hurricane response we need to have.”
“To play politics with the debt ceiling, like Schumer and Pelosi apparently are doing, I don’t think is a good idea,” Mr. Ryan said.
Once they arrived at the White House, however, Mr. Trump undercut Mr. Ryan. Congressional aides said privately that Republicans went into the meeting at the White House proposing an 18-month deal on government spending and the debt limit, only to run into resistance from the Democrats. They then proposed a six-month deal as a compromise, but Democrats insisted on a three-month agreement. Mr. Trump then surprised the Republicans by agreeing to the Democratic formulation.
“We essentially came to a deal, and I think the deal will be very good,” Mr. Trump said afterward. “We had a very, very cordial and professional meeting.”
‘The New Washington’: How Schumer’s Power Play Led to a Deal With Trump
Mr. Schumer said he hoped the latest agreement represented a course correction by Mr. Trump.
“Maybe this was an aberration,” Mr. Schumer said. “But maybe they’re learning, either instinctively or intellectually, that just embracing the hard right isn’t going to get them very far.”
Mr. Trump certainly relished the news media coverage generated by the across-the-aisle engagement — a crucial marker with him — calling Mr. Schumer on Thursday to exult in it.
“I got a call early this morning,” Mr. Schumer said. “He said, ‘This was so great!’ Here’s what he said: ‘Do you watch Fox News?’ I said, ‘Not really.’ ‘They’re praising you!’ Meaning me. But he said, ‘And your stations’ — I guess meaning MSNBC and CNN — ‘are praising me! This is great!’”
Mr. Schumer said the president also showed a sincere soft spot for the Dreamers, reiterating in a second meeting with Mr. Schumer the “great sympathy he has for the Dreamer kids, that they are good Americans, they work hard and they don’t deserve to be kicked out of the country.”
“I said, ‘Well, you have to act on it,’” Mr. Schumer added.
Mr. Schumer said he and Mr. Trump had agreed to explore eliminating the debt limit increase as a legislative pressure point, allowing it to rise automatically in some way without a vote. Mr. Schumer admitted that such a move could deny Democrats future leverage.
“If it’s the right thing to do, I think we can do it,” said Mr. Schumer, who carefully noted that he would not be sacrificing any clout in the coming talks. “We’ll have leverage in this situation.”
Yeah, but not that % differential. And Lincoln won in a three way race.
, but I get your point.I don't pretend to see some logical strategy that Trump's pursuing. When he was initially elected, I'd hoped that he would be the deal maker, and bring the gop and dems in and say "We'll split the baby." That certainly didn't happen on Obamacare.
In Bannon's recent interview, he said something like "we'll take one of these issues he ran on, push it through congress, and success will generate more success." That might have worked. The Wall or tariffs .... they won't work. An Obamacare deal was achievable.
We'll see lower rates and a higher deficit with no spending cuts. McConnell will try to sell that as a "win," but it's no win for conservatives ... it's a loss. Trump will try to sell it as a win, and he'll be successful, imo, with the 35%. Families making <80K will see a tax cut of a few hundred compared to the 1% seeing hundreds of thousands. Schumer is happy going into the 18 and 20 elections on that.
It may get dems elected, maybe not. But I'm sure it really sucks for our kids.
I suspect you are overly optimistic about the GOP leaderships view of Trump reaching across the aisle. lolthis deal was the best thing that ever happened for the Republicans in congress and the Senate....don't let the Republicans crocodile tears and faux shock they are displaying confuse.It is about time.
Fuck Ryan and McConnel.
Trump Bypasses Republicans to Strike Deal on Debt Limit and Harvey Aid
Assuming that he had the support of Mr. Trump, Mr. Ryan responded Wednesday morning by calling the Democrats’ proposal “ridiculous and disgraceful,” saying “it could put in jeopardy the kind of hurricane response we need to have.”
“To play politics with the debt ceiling, like Schumer and Pelosi apparently are doing, I don’t think is a good idea,” Mr. Ryan said.
Once they arrived at the White House, however, Mr. Trump undercut Mr. Ryan. Congressional aides said privately that Republicans went into the meeting at the White House proposing an 18-month deal on government spending and the debt limit, only to run into resistance from the Democrats. They then proposed a six-month deal as a compromise, but Democrats insisted on a three-month agreement. Mr. Trump then surprised the Republicans by agreeing to the Democratic formulation.
“We essentially came to a deal, and I think the deal will be very good,” Mr. Trump said afterward. “We had a very, very cordial and professional meeting.”
‘The New Washington’: How Schumer’s Power Play Led to a Deal With Trump
Mr. Schumer said he hoped the latest agreement represented a course correction by Mr. Trump.
“Maybe this was an aberration,” Mr. Schumer said. “But maybe they’re learning, either instinctively or intellectually, that just embracing the hard right isn’t going to get them very far.”
Mr. Trump certainly relished the news media coverage generated by the across-the-aisle engagement — a crucial marker with him — calling Mr. Schumer on Thursday to exult in it.
“I got a call early this morning,” Mr. Schumer said. “He said, ‘This was so great!’ Here’s what he said: ‘Do you watch Fox News?’ I said, ‘Not really.’ ‘They’re praising you!’ Meaning me. But he said, ‘And your stations’ — I guess meaning MSNBC and CNN — ‘are praising me! This is great!’”
Mr. Schumer said the president also showed a sincere soft spot for the Dreamers, reiterating in a second meeting with Mr. Schumer the “great sympathy he has for the Dreamer kids, that they are good Americans, they work hard and they don’t deserve to be kicked out of the country.”
“I said, ‘Well, you have to act on it,’” Mr. Schumer added.
Mr. Schumer said he and Mr. Trump had agreed to explore eliminating the debt limit increase as a legislative pressure point, allowing it to rise automatically in some way without a vote. Mr. Schumer admitted that such a move could deny Democrats future leverage.
“If it’s the right thing to do, I think we can do it,” said Mr. Schumer, who carefully noted that he would not be sacrificing any clout in the coming talks. “We’ll have leverage in this situation.”
By Trump taking the hit and making this deal, it saved the embarrassment the Repubs would be facing in their own party, for NOT being able to agree on raising the debt ceiling and because they would not have to air their grievances with each other, in the public and stall all other legislation from all the time arguing over raising the debt ceiling in front of cspan's cameras...Ryan has no idea how to pull the different factions of the Republican party together.....the fiscal conservatives like the tea party of old vs the establishment congress critters....
So, ryan and Mc Connel's butts were saved....and they can act all disturbed about Trump making the deal, but they KNOW it's the best thing that ever happened to them with the 2018 elections coming up.
I don't think so....I think the Republican leadership, in their own offices with the doors shut, let out a BIG SIGH OF RELIEF.I suspect you are overly optimistic about the GOP leaderships view of Trump reaching across the aisle. lolthis deal was the best thing that ever happened for the Republicans in congress and the Senate....don't let the Republicans crocodile tears and faux shock they are displaying confuse.It is about time.
Fuck Ryan and McConnel.
Trump Bypasses Republicans to Strike Deal on Debt Limit and Harvey Aid
Assuming that he had the support of Mr. Trump, Mr. Ryan responded Wednesday morning by calling the Democrats’ proposal “ridiculous and disgraceful,” saying “it could put in jeopardy the kind of hurricane response we need to have.”
“To play politics with the debt ceiling, like Schumer and Pelosi apparently are doing, I don’t think is a good idea,” Mr. Ryan said.
Once they arrived at the White House, however, Mr. Trump undercut Mr. Ryan. Congressional aides said privately that Republicans went into the meeting at the White House proposing an 18-month deal on government spending and the debt limit, only to run into resistance from the Democrats. They then proposed a six-month deal as a compromise, but Democrats insisted on a three-month agreement. Mr. Trump then surprised the Republicans by agreeing to the Democratic formulation.
“We essentially came to a deal, and I think the deal will be very good,” Mr. Trump said afterward. “We had a very, very cordial and professional meeting.”
‘The New Washington’: How Schumer’s Power Play Led to a Deal With Trump
Mr. Schumer said he hoped the latest agreement represented a course correction by Mr. Trump.
“Maybe this was an aberration,” Mr. Schumer said. “But maybe they’re learning, either instinctively or intellectually, that just embracing the hard right isn’t going to get them very far.”
Mr. Trump certainly relished the news media coverage generated by the across-the-aisle engagement — a crucial marker with him — calling Mr. Schumer on Thursday to exult in it.
“I got a call early this morning,” Mr. Schumer said. “He said, ‘This was so great!’ Here’s what he said: ‘Do you watch Fox News?’ I said, ‘Not really.’ ‘They’re praising you!’ Meaning me. But he said, ‘And your stations’ — I guess meaning MSNBC and CNN — ‘are praising me! This is great!’”
Mr. Schumer said the president also showed a sincere soft spot for the Dreamers, reiterating in a second meeting with Mr. Schumer the “great sympathy he has for the Dreamer kids, that they are good Americans, they work hard and they don’t deserve to be kicked out of the country.”
“I said, ‘Well, you have to act on it,’” Mr. Schumer added.
Mr. Schumer said he and Mr. Trump had agreed to explore eliminating the debt limit increase as a legislative pressure point, allowing it to rise automatically in some way without a vote. Mr. Schumer admitted that such a move could deny Democrats future leverage.
“If it’s the right thing to do, I think we can do it,” said Mr. Schumer, who carefully noted that he would not be sacrificing any clout in the coming talks. “We’ll have leverage in this situation.”
By Trump taking the hit and making this deal, it saved the embarrassment the Repubs would be facing in their own party, for NOT being able to agree on raising the debt ceiling and because they would not have to air their grievances with each other, in the public and stall all other legislation from all the time arguing over raising the debt ceiling in front of cspan's cameras...Ryan has no idea how to pull the different factions of the Republican party together.....the fiscal conservatives like the tea party of old vs the establishment congress critters....
So, ryan and Mc Connel's butts were saved....and they can act all disturbed about Trump making the deal, but they KNOW it's the best thing that ever happened to them with the 2018 elections coming up.
