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But the poorly organized and short sighted vast majority have to be taken care of anyway.I pay out-of-pocket cash… That's the best system going
the way i understand what TRUMP did is that he messed up the rinos and the republican party , gop and 'ryan' and 'mcconnel' which is fine with me . He also showed the rino republican gop and the sitting republicans that they aren't safe from Trumps wrath because the President will go after them . ------------ thats my interpretation , tell me where i am wrong BusyBee or anyone else .
I'm just a little curious what he thinks some tax reform bill would look like with the dems jumping on board. And the gop house and senate continue working on bills to pass w/o dem support, though I think that would go the way of Obamacare repeal, with no compromise achievable between the Freedom caucus and senate gop.It is about time.
Fuck Ryan and McConnel.
Trump Bypasses Republicans to Strike Deal on Debt Limit and Harvey Aid
Assuming that he had the support of Mr. Trump, Mr. Ryan responded Wednesday morning by calling the Democrats’ proposal “ridiculous and disgraceful,” saying “it could put in jeopardy the kind of hurricane response we need to have.”
“To play politics with the debt ceiling, like Schumer and Pelosi apparently are doing, I don’t think is a good idea,” Mr. Ryan said.
Once they arrived at the White House, however, Mr. Trump undercut Mr. Ryan. Congressional aides said privately that Republicans went into the meeting at the White House proposing an 18-month deal on government spending and the debt limit, only to run into resistance from the Democrats. They then proposed a six-month deal as a compromise, but Democrats insisted on a three-month agreement. Mr. Trump then surprised the Republicans by agreeing to the Democratic formulation.
“We essentially came to a deal, and I think the deal will be very good,” Mr. Trump said afterward. “We had a very, very cordial and professional meeting.”
‘The New Washington’: How Schumer’s Power Play Led to a Deal With Trump
Mr. Schumer said he hoped the latest agreement represented a course correction by Mr. Trump.
“Maybe this was an aberration,” Mr. Schumer said. “But maybe they’re learning, either instinctively or intellectually, that just embracing the hard right isn’t going to get them very far.”
Mr. Trump certainly relished the news media coverage generated by the across-the-aisle engagement — a crucial marker with him — calling Mr. Schumer on Thursday to exult in it.
“I got a call early this morning,” Mr. Schumer said. “He said, ‘This was so great!’ Here’s what he said: ‘Do you watch Fox News?’ I said, ‘Not really.’ ‘They’re praising you!’ Meaning me. But he said, ‘And your stations’ — I guess meaning MSNBC and CNN — ‘are praising me! This is great!’”
Mr. Schumer said the president also showed a sincere soft spot for the Dreamers, reiterating in a second meeting with Mr. Schumer the “great sympathy he has for the Dreamer kids, that they are good Americans, they work hard and they don’t deserve to be kicked out of the country.”
“I said, ‘Well, you have to act on it,’” Mr. Schumer added.
Mr. Schumer said he and Mr. Trump had agreed to explore eliminating the debt limit increase as a legislative pressure point, allowing it to rise automatically in some way without a vote. Mr. Schumer admitted that such a move could deny Democrats future leverage.
“If it’s the right thing to do, I think we can do it,” said Mr. Schumer, who carefully noted that he would not be sacrificing any clout in the coming talks. “We’ll have leverage in this situation.”
I'm just a little curious what he thinks some tax reform bill would look like with the dems jumping on board. And the gop house and senate continue working on bills to pass w/o dem support, though I think that would go the way of Obamacare repeal, with no compromise achievable between the Freedom caucus and senate gop.
I dunno what the dems would demand. The gop has a basic problem on taxes. Bannon and Trumpthecandidate called for no tax cut for the 1% but a tax cut for workers. That will increase the deficit unless we cut, or curb growth, in soc sec and medicare, but Trump said he wouldn't do that. The Dems will happily go along. Those who warned Trump was not a goper are gleefully waiting to say 'told you so." I'm not sure it really matters to hard core Trump supporters.
But meanwhile Ryan and McConnell continue toiling away (and the speed of arthritic snails) to cut tax cuts to give the 1% more of % of tax cuts than workers, and cut social programs. It appears the Senate will need 50 votes and have 51 living members.
Clearly you are against helping the people, which is a politicians job.
He cut deals with the Russians to fuck over Hillary...why not use the dumbs to get what he wants on the budget? Lmao!It is about time.
Fuck Ryan and McConnel.
Trump Bypasses Republicans to Strike Deal on Debt Limit and Harvey Aid
Assuming that he had the support of Mr. Trump, Mr. Ryan responded Wednesday morning by calling the Democrats’ proposal “ridiculous and disgraceful,” saying “it could put in jeopardy the kind of hurricane response we need to have.”
“To play politics with the debt ceiling, like Schumer and Pelosi apparently are doing, I don’t think is a good idea,” Mr. Ryan said.
Once they arrived at the White House, however, Mr. Trump undercut Mr. Ryan. Congressional aides said privately that Republicans went into the meeting at the White House proposing an 18-month deal on government spending and the debt limit, only to run into resistance from the Democrats. They then proposed a six-month deal as a compromise, but Democrats insisted on a three-month agreement. Mr. Trump then surprised the Republicans by agreeing to the Democratic formulation.
“We essentially came to a deal, and I think the deal will be very good,” Mr. Trump said afterward. “We had a very, very cordial and professional meeting.”
‘The New Washington’: How Schumer’s Power Play Led to a Deal With Trump
Mr. Schumer said he hoped the latest agreement represented a course correction by Mr. Trump.
“Maybe this was an aberration,” Mr. Schumer said. “But maybe they’re learning, either instinctively or intellectually, that just embracing the hard right isn’t going to get them very far.”
Mr. Trump certainly relished the news media coverage generated by the across-the-aisle engagement — a crucial marker with him — calling Mr. Schumer on Thursday to exult in it.
“I got a call early this morning,” Mr. Schumer said. “He said, ‘This was so great!’ Here’s what he said: ‘Do you watch Fox News?’ I said, ‘Not really.’ ‘They’re praising you!’ Meaning me. But he said, ‘And your stations’ — I guess meaning MSNBC and CNN — ‘are praising me! This is great!’”
Mr. Schumer said the president also showed a sincere soft spot for the Dreamers, reiterating in a second meeting with Mr. Schumer the “great sympathy he has for the Dreamer kids, that they are good Americans, they work hard and they don’t deserve to be kicked out of the country.”
“I said, ‘Well, you have to act on it,’” Mr. Schumer added.
Mr. Schumer said he and Mr. Trump had agreed to explore eliminating the debt limit increase as a legislative pressure point, allowing it to rise automatically in some way without a vote. Mr. Schumer admitted that such a move could deny Democrats future leverage.
“If it’s the right thing to do, I think we can do it,” said Mr. Schumer, who carefully noted that he would not be sacrificing any clout in the coming talks. “We’ll have leverage in this situation.”
Basically, I think Schumer will play ball if, and only if, Trump abandons the gop basic premise of holding down deficits while reducing taxes on the 1%. The gop will never abandon that central premise. That is any gop tax cut will have to give the 1% much more that just 1% of the total tax cut.I dunno what the dems would demand. The gop has a basic problem on taxes. Bannon and Trumpthecandidate called for no tax cut for the 1% but a tax cut for workers. That will increase the deficit unless we cut, or curb growth, in soc sec and medicare, but Trump said he wouldn't do that. The Dems will happily go along. Those who warned Trump was not a goper are gleefully waiting to say 'told you so." I'm not sure it really matters to hard core Trump supporters.
But meanwhile Ryan and McConnell continue toiling away (and the speed of arthritic snails) to cut tax cuts to give the 1% more of % of tax cuts than workers, and cut social programs. It appears the Senate will need 50 votes and have 51 living members.
Well the GOP leaders need to listen to the Democrats DINO faction to see what votes they can get, and they cant do that if the Dems cant participate.
But America has may parts of the ship on fire and it is spreading out of control, while the Establishment fiddles around playing partisan BS gotcha crap and doing nothing.
your supposed insult to TRUMP that he is a rino means nothing BBee , we deplorable elected TRUMP to fight the rino republican gop BBee and he is doing that BBee .
I dunno what the dems would demand. The gop has a basic problem on taxes. Bannon and Trumpthecandidate called for no tax cut for the 1% but a tax cut for workers. That will increase the deficit unless we cut, or curb growth, in soc sec and medicare, but Trump said he wouldn't do that. The Dems will happily go along. Those who warned Trump was not a goper are gleefully waiting to say 'told you so." I'm not sure it really matters to hard core Trump supporters.
But meanwhile Ryan and McConnell continue toiling away (and the speed of arthritic snails) to cut tax cuts to give the 1% more of % of tax cuts than workers, and cut social programs. It appears the Senate will need 50 votes and have 51 living members.
And if the Republicans don't pay attention, the same forces that elected Trump instead of the establishment candidates will turn them out in the mid terms. People are fed up with the status quo.
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Trump's consistency is inconsistencyI dunno what the dems would demand. The gop has a basic problem on taxes. Bannon and Trumpthecandidate called for no tax cut for the 1% but a tax cut for workers. That will increase the deficit unless we cut, or curb growth, in soc sec and medicare, but Trump said he wouldn't do that. The Dems will happily go along. Those who warned Trump was not a goper are gleefully waiting to say 'told you so." I'm not sure it really matters to hard core Trump supporters.
But meanwhile Ryan and McConnell continue toiling away (and the speed of arthritic snails) to cut tax cuts to give the 1% more of % of tax cuts than workers, and cut social programs. It appears the Senate will need 50 votes and have 51 living members.
Trump's 1 page outline calls for across the board tax cuts. However I have no doubt that he would abandon that and support a tax increase on the 1% just to get something passed.
And if the Republicans don't pay attention, the same forces that elected Trump instead of the establishment candidates will turn them out in the mid terms. People are fed up with the status quo.
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The Republicans could lose the House however it will be because Trump wants to appeal to the 30% rather than the majority of voters. Trump is as responsible for that.
And if the Republicans don't pay attention, the same forces that elected Trump instead of the establishment candidates will turn them out in the mid terms. People are fed up with the status quo.
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The Republicans could lose the House however it will be because Trump wants to appeal to the 30% rather than the majority of voters. Trump is as responsible for that.
Trump won in large part because he threatened the entrenched power elite. If it is seen as so opposed to him as to make governing impossible, they will be hurt.
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And if the Republicans don't pay attention, the same forces that elected Trump instead of the establishment candidates will turn them out in the mid terms. People are fed up with the status quo.
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The Republicans could lose the House however it will be because Trump wants to appeal to the 30% rather than the majority of voters. Trump is as responsible for that.
Trump won in large part because he threatened the entrenched power elite. If it is seen as so opposed to him as to make governing impossible, they will be hurt.
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A full 25% of Trump's support came from voters who were voting against Clinton not for Trump. Trump is a member of the power elite as he has bragged about buying politicians.
