Trump Deporting High-Profile Illegal Immigrant Activists

[JGalt]

Well, you are right, Capitalism does encourage immigration to fill the need for cheap labor, that's why I want Fascism to crack down on the Capitalist party times.
They've partied off of our wealth, as our country is on the brink.

You are only slightly less retarded than those peddling laissez-faire economics.

Well, you Liberals like to say you stand with the American worker, and then you screw him out of wages, and jobs by supporting immigrants, and then you complain oh the poor immigrants are being gouged.

So, what do you even stand for?
Gouging of the masses for the Capitalist elites?

Yeah, that's what I thought, not very rational, indeed.

Government is the problem, not the immigrants. Illegal immigrants are doing jobs that Americans refuse to do. Move away from your alterative reality.

I call BS, we have plenty of lower class people who could work like Mexicans, but they're instead on welfare.

Furthermore Americans will do any job if paid enough, that's kind of the point, they lure in workers with higher wages during a job shortage, and it propels wages forward.

They are throwing brown immigrants in a cage here in the states to make a profit off this witch hunt. Why not simply deport them instead?

Because they broke the law. You break the law, you get punished.

 

[georgephillip]

Soooo, stripped of spin, are you trying to imply that we should focus on white collar crime INSTEAD of immigration policy?

Noooooo.
I'm saying if you prosecute white collar criminals (like Trump and Clinton) and exterminate their influence on US tax and trade policies, you will automatically solve what you view as an immigration "problem."

http://www.alternativeinsight.com/The_Immigration_Wars.html

 

[georgephillip]

Meanwhile that is no reasons to not deport the shit out of the vast population of illegals.

Assuming there are about 11 million "illegals" in the US, how many would you deport at what cost to the US economy?

 

[Correll]

Soooo, stripped of spin, are you trying to imply that we should focus on white collar crime INSTEAD of immigration policy?

Noooooo.
I'm saying if you prosecute white collar criminals (like Trump and Clinton) and exterminate their influence on US tax and trade policies, you will automatically solve what you view as an immigration "problem."

http://www.alternativeinsight.com/The_Immigration_Wars.html

How, does addressing that issue "solve" the immigration problem?

 

[Correll]

Meanwhile that is no reasons to not deport the shit out of the vast population of illegals.

Assuming there are about 11 million "illegals" in the US, how many would you deport at what cost to the US economy?

1. I don't assume that. That number is basically pulled out of someone's ass.


2. All of them at great benefit to the US economy.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Assuming there are about 11 million "illegals" in the US, how many would you deport at what cost to the US economy?

They self deport when you quit feeding them.

 

[georgephillip]

Republicans were not against NAFTA.
They just needed Clinton to pass it.
Trump is simply an opportunistic hypocrite whose ignorant bigotry appeals to low-information imbeciles.

It was signed by Bill Clinton. Republicans were hoodwinked into believing that it was a good thing but after the effects of it were seen, they tend to be against it.

President Trump wants to re-negotiate NAFTA so we get the better end of the deal.

Why are Republicans fighting Trump on NAFTA reform?
"Republicans gear up to fight Trump over Nafta"
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LOL. A three month old article that states "Republicans gear up to fight Trump over Nafta", yet the only republican they mentioned was Orrin Hatch.



Trump will re-negotiate NAFTA, whether you like it or not. And as everything else he negotiates, we will get the better end of the deal.

"History lesson: More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA."
History lesson: More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA

Republicans tried passing NAFTA when Bush the Groper was in the White House; they had to wait for Clinton to seal the deal.

BTW, if Trump is such a skillful negotiator, how did he manage to lose money in Atlantic City?

Because Atlantic City was and is a stupid place to spend a lot of $$$ on a gambling mecca. Stupid state rules and no viable place for employees to live.

Even so, Trump's casinos failed long before Atlantic City did.
Some of his critics allege Trump did not even bother to learn the odds on the games played in "his" casinos.

How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned Millions

"His audacious personality and opulent properties brought attention — and countless players — to Atlantic City as it sought to overtake Las Vegas as the country’s gambling capital.

"But a close examination of regulatory reviews, court records and security filings by The New York Times leaves little doubt that Mr. Trump’s casino business was a protracted failure.

"Though he now says his casinos were overtaken by the same tidal wave that eventually slammed this seaside city’s gambling industry, in reality he was failing in Atlantic City long before Atlantic City itself was failing.

"But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well.

"He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments.

"The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen."

 

[georgephillip]

Soooo, stripped of spin, are you trying to imply that we should focus on white collar crime INSTEAD of immigration policy?

Noooooo.
I'm saying if you prosecute white collar criminals (like Trump and Clinton) and exterminate their influence on US tax and trade policies, you will automatically solve what you view as an immigration "problem."

http://www.alternativeinsight.com/The_Immigration_Wars.html

How, does addressing that issue "solve" the immigration problem?

"Wave Of Illegal Immigrants Gains Speed After NAFTA"
Wave Of Illegal Immigrants Gains Speed After NAFTA

Millions of subsistence-level Mexican corn farmers were destroyed by NAFTA; their lest worst option was migration to the US.

When you add in corrupt governments run by oligarchs south of Mexico, and their reliance on death squads to maintain their privilege, immigration becomes a matter of life and death for the poor.

 

[georgephillip]

Assuming there are about 11 million "illegals" in the US, how many would you deport at what cost to the US economy?

They self deport when you quit feeding them.

There are thousands of immigrants in my community, and the overwhelming majority have no problem feeding themselves.
California's undocumented workers help the economy grow – but may pay the cost

 

[Carl in Michigan]

There are thousands of immigrants in my community,

Are they ILLEGAL immigrants?

If they are, you don't give them jobs, or government services.

 

[georgephillip]

There are thousands of immigrants in my community,

Are they ILLEGAL immigrants?

Some are here without legal documents, and some are not.
I've been in this neighborhood since 1995, and I've never noticed any difference between those two factions as far as work ethic or honesty is concerned. In both cases, the money they send to their homeland families plays a vital role in sustaining those economies.

 

[georgephillip]

There are thousands of immigrants in my community,

Are they ILLEGAL immigrants?

If they are, you don't give them jobs, or government services.

Some jobs, particularly those in agriculture, will not get done without immigrants.

California's undocumented workers help the economy grow – but may pay the cost

"Brokaw Ranch Company, in Ventura County, grows hundreds of acres of fruit including avocados, oranges and lemons that end up on tables all across the United States via Sam's Club, Wal-Mart and Costco.

"But before it gets there, it starts here, in leafy groves of trees under the California sun, where crews of workers climb the trees with ladders, cut each piece of fruit by hand and carry it in 80-pound sacks to collection bins.

"It's hard, careful work and, at least on this farm, it's done by immigrants.

"The Ventura County farm bureau estimates as many as 36,000 field workers bring in the county's crops of citrus, avocado and strawberries in peak harvest season, and that 95 percent of them are foreign-born.

"Ranch owner Ellen Brokaw said immigrant labor is essential to Ventura County's farms."

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Some jobs, particularly those in agriculture, will not get done without immigrants

Why can't anyone say............

ILLEGAL immigrants?

Do you understand how we did this before the Democrat Party lost its mind?

 

[georgephillip]

Some jobs, particularly those in agriculture, will not get done without immigrants

Why can't anyone say............

ILLEGAL immigrants?

Do you understand how we did this before the Democrat Party lost its mind?

I can remember when racist, conservative Democrats (and Republicans) posted signs like this in their businesses:

https://www.amazon.com/No-Mexicans-Women-Dogs-Allowed/dp/0292721323&tag=ff0d01-20

Signs of overt, public racism had pretty much disappeared by the time I began working in California citrus orchards in 1965, and a great deal has changed since then.

One thing that hasn't changed, however, is the eternal reality that farm labor will not get done without immigrants, and if government does not authorize a sufficient number of "legal" migrants, those who own the farms and orchards of this country will be forced to use "illegal" immigrants to harvest your food supply.

 

[danielpalos]

Some jobs, particularly those in agriculture, will not get done without immigrants

Why can't anyone say............

ILLEGAL immigrants?

Do you understand how we did this before the Democrat Party lost its mind?

Change the law. It doesn't work now, and we could use revenue from a more friendly visa system that makes it easier for potential Labor to be tourists.

 

[longknife]

It was signed by Bill Clinton. Republicans were hoodwinked into believing that it was a good thing but after the effects of it were seen, they tend to be against it.

President Trump wants to re-negotiate NAFTA so we get the better end of the deal.

Why are Republicans fighting Trump on NAFTA reform?
"Republicans gear up to fight Trump over Nafta"
Subscribe to read

LOL. A three month old article that states "Republicans gear up to fight Trump over Nafta", yet the only republican they mentioned was Orrin Hatch.



Trump will re-negotiate NAFTA, whether you like it or not. And as everything else he negotiates, we will get the better end of the deal.

"History lesson: More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA."
History lesson: More Republicans than Democrats supported NAFTA

Republicans tried passing NAFTA when Bush the Groper was in the White House; they had to wait for Clinton to seal the deal.

BTW, if Trump is such a skillful negotiator, how did he manage to lose money in Atlantic City?

Because Atlantic City was and is a stupid place to spend a lot of $$$ on a gambling mecca. Stupid state rules and no viable place for employees to live.

Even so, Trump's casinos failed long before Atlantic City did.
Some of his critics allege Trump did not even bother to learn the odds on the games played in "his" casinos.

How Donald Trump Bankrupted His Atlantic City Casinos, but Still Earned Millions

"His audacious personality and opulent properties brought attention — and countless players — to Atlantic City as it sought to overtake Las Vegas as the country’s gambling capital.

"But a close examination of regulatory reviews, court records and security filings by The New York Times leaves little doubt that Mr. Trump’s casino business was a protracted failure.

"Though he now says his casinos were overtaken by the same tidal wave that eventually slammed this seaside city’s gambling industry, in reality he was failing in Atlantic City long before Atlantic City itself was failing.

"But even as his companies did poorly, Mr. Trump did well.

"He put up little of his own money, shifted personal debts to the casinos and collected millions of dollars in salary, bonuses and other payments.

"The burden of his failures fell on investors and others who had bet on his business acumen."

As a professional slot machine player, I knew people who went to Atlantic City to gamble on selected machines with growing jackpots. Every one of them stayed away from the Trump casino as its machines had the worst payoffs of all.

 

[Godboy]

Now you see them, now you don't.

"Immigration authorities have detained in recent weeks two prominent activists who are themselves illegal immigrants, demonstrating the Trump administration’s commitment to expand the pool of deportable aliens.

The arrested men have openly lived in the U.S. for years and have until recently enjoyed a de facto immunity from deportation, thanks to their status as high-profile immigrants’ rights activists. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials have denied the arrests are politically motivated, but they clearly show that immigration agents are now emboldened to arrest even the most connected of illegal immigrants."

ICE Is Enforcing Deportation Orders Against High-Profile Illegal Immigrant Activists

You think ICE should give a pass to high profile illegal immigrants?

 

[danielpalos]

Now you see them, now you don't.

"Immigration authorities have detained in recent weeks two prominent activists who are themselves illegal immigrants, demonstrating the Trump administration’s commitment to expand the pool of deportable aliens.

The arrested men have openly lived in the U.S. for years and have until recently enjoyed a de facto immunity from deportation, thanks to their status as high-profile immigrants’ rights activists. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials have denied the arrests are politically motivated, but they clearly show that immigration agents are now emboldened to arrest even the most connected of illegal immigrants."

ICE Is Enforcing Deportation Orders Against High-Profile Illegal Immigrant Activists

You think ICE should give a pass to high profile illegal immigrants?

First degrees should go first!

 

[georgephillip]

Some jobs, particularly those in agriculture, will not get done without immigrants

Why can't anyone say............

ILLEGAL immigrants?

Do you understand how we did this before the Democrat Party lost its mind?

Change the law. It doesn't work now, and we could use revenue from a more friendly visa system that makes it easier for potential Labor to be tourists.

Farm labor is known for long hours of backbreaking work and low pay, so I'm not sure how these workers could contribute to tourism in any meaningful way?

The Bracero Program and U.S. Immigration | Spring 2015 | Washington State University

 

[toomuchtime_]

Now you see them, now you don't.

"Immigration authorities have detained in recent weeks two prominent activists who are themselves illegal immigrants, demonstrating the Trump administration’s commitment to expand the pool of deportable aliens.

The arrested men have openly lived in the U.S. for years and have until recently enjoyed a de facto immunity from deportation, thanks to their status as high-profile immigrants’ rights activists. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) officials have denied the arrests are politically motivated, but they clearly show that immigration agents are now emboldened to arrest even the most connected of illegal immigrants."

ICE Is Enforcing Deportation Orders Against High-Profile Illegal Immigrant Activists

What you are saying is that under President Trump, law enforcement officers are emboldened to enforce the law but under Obama they did not enforce the law. That's still more evidence President Trump is making America great again.