Trump did not "avoid" taxes - he followed the law and took a loss

[Syriusly]

The spin on this is just breathtaking.

If you lose money.... drumroll.... you do not owe taxes... instead you get a WRITE-OFF on future earnings...

Perfectly legal and in no need of "fixing."

Yep- Trump managed to lose almost almost 1,000,000,000 dollars.

Did he take write offs on future earnings?

We don't know- because Trump doesn't want Americans to see his tax returns.

We know how much Clinton paid, and how much she deducted because her taxes are transparent.

Tricky Trump doesn't want us to see his tax returns- Tricky Trump less Transparent than Tricky Dick.

Trump wants us to buy a pig in the poke.

And Hillary when she was in charge of the U.S. State Department Lost $6 Billion
State Dept. misplaced $6B under Hillary Clinton: IG report

More anti-Hillary bullshit from the right. The $6 billion was never "lost," "missing," or "misplaced." The alert said that failure to adequately maintain contract files created financial risk. What the Washington Times did not report was there were no lost contracts.
Hillary Clinton Lost $6 Billion at the State Department?

Really still quoting Snopes?

Yep- because unlike right wing nut jobs, I go for actual fact checking sites.

One of the good things about Snopes is that Snopes cites actual documents and articles that a concerned reader can go check out themselves.

If you think that Snopes is wrong- go to their sources and check it out yourself.

 

[Syriusly]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

 

[g5000]

The spin on this is just breathtaking.

If you lose money.... drumroll.... you do not owe taxes... instead you get a WRITE-OFF on future earnings...

Perfectly legal and in no need of "fixing."

Yep- Trump managed to lose almost almost 1,000,000,000 dollars.

Did he take write offs on future earnings?

We don't know- because Trump doesn't want Americans to see his tax returns.

We know how much Clinton paid, and how much she deducted because her taxes are transparent.

Tricky Trump doesn't want us to see his tax returns- Tricky Trump less Transparent than Tricky Dick.

Trump wants us to buy a pig in the poke.

And Hillary when she was in charge of the U.S. State Department Lost $6 Billion
State Dept. misplaced $6B under Hillary Clinton: IG report

More anti-Hillary bullshit from the right. The $6 billion was never "lost," "missing," or "misplaced." The alert said that failure to adequately maintain contract files created financial risk. What the Washington Times did not report was there were no lost contracts.
Hillary Clinton Lost $6 Billion at the State Department?

Really still quoting Snopes?

Yep- because unlike right wing nut jobs, I go for actual fact checking sites.

One of the good things about Snopes is that Snopes cites actual documents and articles that a concerned reader can go check out themselves.

If you think that Snopes is wrong- go to their sources and check it out yourself.

Exactly.

But the tards don't know how to think critically. They just copy and paste without engaging either one of their brain cells.

The people who constantly lie to them told them Snopes was biased. This is how they keep their lies self-contained. "This snake oil cures cancer, and anyone who says different is a liar!"

It is just as you said. Snopes backs up its information with facts and evidence the reader can see for themselves.

But that's too hard! So the lazy tards just dismiss the site based on what the very sources which lie to them tell them!

The rubes DESERVE to be lied to.

 

[Little-Acorn]

The spin on this is just breathtaking.

If you lose money.... drumroll.... you do not owe taxes... instead you get a WRITE-OFF on future earnings...

Perfectly legal and in no need of "fixing."

That's what the law says. Trump obeyed the law, and Dems hate him for doing it. (Correction: Dems hate him no matter what he does)

BTW, the Dems could have changed this law many times while they had Congress and the Presidency. They carefully did not touch it, and many of them took the same deduction. Now that Trump did it, they scream about how eeeevil it is.

 

[Flopper]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Trump has always kept his financial dealings close to his chest, releasing only information that he considers beneficial. This is one of the reasons why the Trump Organization is a sole proprietorship. It's owned 100% by Donald Trump. Since there are few disclosure requirements placed on a sole proprietor, Trump is free to release or create whatever financial information that he considers helpful to his current project. This is why much of the financial information he releases is contradictory.

One thing that has come out of his campaign for president is a lot of the information that he would have preferred to keep secret such as his billion dollar tax write off for his business failures has been made public. Documents and research on his net worth reveal that the his business success is far less than he claims. In fact, the average annual growth rate of the Trump Organization appears to be somewhere between poor and mediocre. I find this particular disturbing because throughout his campaign he has used his success in business as his prime qualification for president. Now we're learning that this success is not near what we thought.

 

[hadit]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

 

[LaDexter]

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

Hillary didn't go to prison for Whitewater, but 12 of 14 partners did (Bill is the other one)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Madison S&L, but she was their attorney and it was FRAUD and many went to prison (McDougles)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Castle Grande, but only because Chelsea's bio daddy Webb Hubbell claimed to do the work that Hillary billed for... which was a confession of BILLING FRAUD... no prosecution, no disbarment hearing...
Hillary didn't go to prison for cattle futures, but the firm that was "switching" her trades with Tyson Foods did


Hillary's entire life is FRAUD, STEALING, LYING, and HATING

 

[Flopper]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Hillary is probably the most transparent presidential candidate ever. Hillary has testified before Congress at least 7 times, has addressed the Senate 26 times, given over 350 interviews, written 8 books, the subject of 20 biographies, and has been the subject of at least 100 other books. In addition she holds the record for the most searched person on the Internet, with 179,000,000 hits. The huge amount of material available on Hillary is a goldmine of information for Republicans seeking to discredit her. There is so much material available, it is relatively easy to create accusations on any subject. However, once the accusations are investigated, they all fall apart.

The perception that Hillary isn't transparent comes from the fact that she's been the subject of Republican attacks for over 20 years. The list of accusation by Republicans would fill a book. Hillary would have to be nuts to be helpfully and open with people that have been trying to destroy her for 2 decades.

 

[Syriusly]

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

Hillary didn't go to prison for Whitewater, but 12 of 14 partners did (Bill is the other one)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Madison S&L, but she was their attorney and it was FRAUD and many went to prison (McDougles)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Castle Grande, but only because Chelsea's bio daddy Webb Hubbell claimed to do the work that Hillary billed for... which was a confession of BILLING FRAUD... no prosecution, no disbarment hearing...
Hillary didn't go to prison for cattle futures, but the firm that was "switching" her trades with Tyson Foods did

Hmmmm wow- a litany of 30 years of Right wingers trying to find evidence- and failing- of Hillary Clinton breaking any laws.

Meanwhile- we have Donald Trump being actively sued for fraud in two states......

 

[Syriusly]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Tricky Trump has decided not to be transparent about anything- but you knew that.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting

 

[Flopper]

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

Hillary didn't go to prison for Whitewater, but 12 of 14 partners did (Bill is the other one)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Madison S&L, but she was their attorney and it was FRAUD and many went to prison (McDougles)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Castle Grande, but only because Chelsea's bio daddy Webb Hubbell claimed to do the work that Hillary billed for... which was a confession of BILLING FRAUD... no prosecution, no disbarment hearing...
Hillary didn't go to prison for cattle futures, but the firm that was "switching" her trades with Tyson Foods did

Hmmmm wow- a litany of 30 years of Right wingers trying to find evidence- and failing- of Hillary Clinton breaking any laws.

Meanwhile- we have Donald Trump being actively sued for fraud in two states......

Donald Trump gets a pass because he's not a politician. He's a rank amateur that has no qualifications for the office and is a political novice. His supporters think that makes him the ideal candidate for one of the most demanding and difficult jobs in the world.

 

[Syriusly]

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

Hillary didn't go to prison for Whitewater, but 12 of 14 partners did (Bill is the other one)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Madison S&L, but she was their attorney and it was FRAUD and many went to prison (McDougles)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Castle Grande, but only because Chelsea's bio daddy Webb Hubbell claimed to do the work that Hillary billed for... which was a confession of BILLING FRAUD... no prosecution, no disbarment hearing...
Hillary didn't go to prison for cattle futures, but the firm that was "switching" her trades with Tyson Foods did

Hmmmm wow- a litany of 30 years of Right wingers trying to find evidence- and failing- of Hillary Clinton breaking any laws.

Meanwhile- we have Donald Trump being actively sued for fraud in two states......

Donald Trump gets a pass because he's not a politician. He's a rank amateur that has no qualifications for the office and is a political novice. His supporters think that makes him the ideal candidate for one of the most demanding and difficult jobs in the world.

I wonder if they would support Trump to be a Baseball coach?

After all- he has not been tainted by baseball....so would be the ideal coach.......

 

[Flopper]

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

Hillary didn't go to prison for Whitewater, but 12 of 14 partners did (Bill is the other one)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Madison S&L, but she was their attorney and it was FRAUD and many went to prison (McDougles)
Hillary didn't go to prison for Castle Grande, but only because Chelsea's bio daddy Webb Hubbell claimed to do the work that Hillary billed for... which was a confession of BILLING FRAUD... no prosecution, no disbarment hearing...
Hillary didn't go to prison for cattle futures, but the firm that was "switching" her trades with Tyson Foods did

Hmmmm wow- a litany of 30 years of Right wingers trying to find evidence- and failing- of Hillary Clinton breaking any laws.

Meanwhile- we have Donald Trump being actively sued for fraud in two states......

Donald Trump gets a pass because he's not a politician. He's a rank amateur that has no qualifications for the office and is a political novice. His supporters think that makes him the ideal candidate for one of the most demanding and difficult jobs in the world.

I wonder if they would support Trump to be a Baseball coach?

After all- he has not been tainted by baseball....so would be the ideal coach.......

Why not, he has the hat. What other qualifications doses he need. If he can get elected president with no qualifications, he can certainly coach a baseball team.

 

[hadit]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Tricky Trump has decided not to be transparent about anything- but you knew that.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting

HIllary deliberately and without oversight deleted thousands of emails she claims were solely personal in nature, after deliberately mixing official and personal emails together. She is quite selective about what she will be transparent.

 

[hadit]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Hillary is probably the most transparent presidential candidate ever. Hillary has testified before Congress at least 7 times, has addressed the Senate 26 times, given over 350 interviews, written 8 books, the subject of 20 biographies, and has been the subject of at least 100 other books. In addition she holds the record for the most searched person on the Internet, with 179,000,000 hits. The huge amount of material available on Hillary is a goldmine of information for Republicans seeking to discredit her. There is so much material available, it is relatively easy to create accusations on any subject. However, once the accusations are investigated, they all fall apart.

The perception that Hillary isn't transparent comes from the fact that she's been the subject of Republican attacks for over 20 years. The list of accusation by Republicans would fill a book. Hillary would have to be nuts to be helpfully and open with people that have been trying to destroy her for 2 decades.

Nice regurgitation of talking points, but hardly substantive. Hillary has been a professional politician herself for years, and associated with politics her entire life. Of course there's going to be a lot of material accumulated about her. That does not, however, address the question of whether she is transparent or not.

 

[Flopper]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Tricky Trump has decided not to be transparent about anything- but you knew that.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting

HIllary deliberately and without oversight deleted thousands of emails she claims were solely personal in nature, after deliberately mixing official and personal emails together. She is quite selective about what she will be transparent.

Being transparent does not mean she should have turned over personal correspondence to a Republican wolf pack. The first lie about this issue is that she deleted the 30,000 emails. A team of lawyers combed through 60,000 emails deleting personal correspondence. She had every right to do so and doing otherwise would be just plain stupid.

 

[hadit]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Tricky Trump has decided not to be transparent about anything- but you knew that.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting

HIllary deliberately and without oversight deleted thousands of emails she claims were solely personal in nature, after deliberately mixing official and personal emails together. She is quite selective about what she will be transparent.

Being transparent does not mean she should have turned over personal correspondence to a Republican wolf pack. The first lie about this issue is that she deleted the 30,000 emails. A team of lawyers combed through 60,000 emails deleting personal correspondence. She had every right to do so and doing otherwise would be just plain stupid.

Oh, but of course. You do realize, don't you, that there would have been no need for anyone to comb through anything had she simply dedicated a government email account on government supplied servers to official business, having them secured, automatically backed up and easily made available with no fuss and no controversy? That easy, non-controversial method she did not use. Instead, she deliberately mingled personal and official business on one account on a single server which she alone controlled. How convenient when accountability comes knocking. "So sorry, but I just can't give you any of these emails until I go through and delete everything I don't want you to see". Very convenient.

 

[Flopper]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Compared to Donald Trump, Hillary has been exceptional transparent. More so than most candidates. While Trump has yet to release a single tax return, Hillary has released over 15 years of tax returns. While Trump has refused to release information about the Donald Trump Foundation, the Clinton Foundation has published details online including tax returns, audited annual reports, top donors and list a of all major projects. Trump refuses to release any information about any of the operations of the Trump Organization other than claims to illustrate his great successes. He ignores request to supply a list of loans by foreign banks and investors. He even refuses to give a straight answer to inquires of his net worth. As I said, Hillary is the most transparent presidential candidate we have had in 50 years. And Donald Trump remains one of the least transparent.

 

[hadit]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Compared to Donald Trump, Hillary has been exceptional transparent. More so than most candidates. While Trump has yet to release a single tax return, Hillary has released over 15 years of tax returns. While Trump has refused to release information about the Donald Trump Foundation, the Clinton Foundation has published details online including tax returns, audited annual reports, top donors and list a of all major projects. Trump refuses to release any information about any of the operations of the Trump Organization other than claims to illustrate his great successes. He even refuses to give a straight answer to inquires of his net worth. As I said, Hillary is the most transparent presidential candidate we have had in 50 years. And Donald Trump remains one of the least transparent.

Well, except for things like making a killing in the futures market (on her first try, then never doing it again), the disappearing (and reappearing conveniently after the statue of limitations ran out) Rose Law Firm records, and of course, the thousands upon thousands of emails deleted with no oversight from the server containing the official emails of the Sec State. But hey, she's transparent all right. With everything she wants to be.

 

[Syriusly]

I recall posts from Hillary sycophants attempting to make the case that she did nothing wrong because she has not been convicted of a crime. Using their standard, Trump's as clean as she is.

Neither Trump or Clinton have been proven guilty of any crimes.

But Hillary Clinton has been transparent about her taxes, her sources of wealth, her charitable deductions-
and Donald Trump has not been transparent about his taxes, his sources of wealth and his charitable deductions.

Tricky Trump- less Transparent than Tricky Dick- quite the standard he is setting.

Hillary Clinton chooses carefully that about which she will be transparent. But you knew that.

Compared to Donald Trump, Hillary has been exceptional transparent. More so than most candidates. While Trump has yet to release a single tax return, Hillary has released over 15 years of tax returns. While Trump has refused to release information about the Donald Trump Foundation, the Clinton Foundation has published details online including tax returns, audited annual reports, top donors and list a of all major projects. Trump refuses to release any information about any of the operations of the Trump Organization other than claims to illustrate his great successes. He even refuses to give a straight answer to inquires of his net worth. As I said, Hillary is the most transparent presidential candidate we have had in 50 years. And Donald Trump remains one of the least transparent.

Well, except for things like making a killing in the futures market (on her first try, then never doing it again), the disappearing (and reappearing conveniently after the statue of limitations ran out) Rose Law Firm records, and of course, the thousands upon thousands of emails deleted with no oversight from the server containing the official emails of the Sec State. But hey, she's transparent all right. With everything she wants to be.

Apologies to Flopper for using his post- but everything he said is absolutely true.

Compared to Donald Trump, Hillary has been exceptional transparent. More so than most candidates. While Trump has yet to release a single tax return, Hillary has released over 15 years of tax returns. While Trump has refused to release information about the Donald Trump Foundation, the Clinton Foundation has published details online including tax returns, audited annual reports, top donors and list a of all major projects. Trump refuses to release any information about any of the operations of the Trump Organization other than claims to illustrate his great successes. He ignores request to supply a list of loans by foreign banks and investors. He even refuses to give a straight answer to inquires of his net worth. As I said, Hillary is the most transparent presidential candidate we have had in 50 years. And Donald Trump remains one of the least transparent.