Trump has been EXONERATED of all charges.

[Butch_Coolidge]

^^^ a fucking moron who still doesn't know the difference between an inquiry/hearing and a trial.

What happens in the Senate is not a trial in the legal sense. It's a political process.

Someone who claims to understand this shit should understand that.

Still the only impeachment trial in U.S. history to not call a single witness. What are you cons afraid of?

<YAWN!>

How does it matter? It means nothing. The impeachment was a sham. Everyone knows that.

The trial was the sham. That's what everybody knows.

Everybody?

That means you, and who else?

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[Butch_Coolidge]

Huh, can you prove it with real evidence or do you insist that hearsay is all you need?

trump proved it by blocking witnesses and documents. trump is guilty.

That's like saying I am guilty in a trial for refusing to talk to cops. Ridiculous...

Trump had nothing to prove, it was the job of the democrats to prove him guilty. They failed...

Nope it's not. If you were requested subpoenaed by the court and refused you go to jail. If you are being investigated for a crime and tell all witnesses not to testify and you defy court orders to turn over documents you go to jail. Trump did both. He did have something to prove. He refused to do so. He blocked witnesses and documents critical to the case and that's because doing so would have proven his guilt. trump is guilty. Your argument is a load o9f crap. Furthermore, you know he is guilty.

They held the trial according to the rules.

Trump was acquitted.

You lost, Trump won.

trump is guilty. You can make all the excuses you want to rationalize this joke of a trial because you're a republican, but trump is guilty. I lost nothing. But we all lost because trump still has a job.

You just contradicted yourself.


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[IM2]

Since you brought her up here.....using your logic her not turning over the 33000 emails makes her guilty.

Wrong. She testified before the committee several times. One for 11 hours. Trump refused to testify. Again, when you try arguing with me, your ass better know all the facts.

You aren't even in my league son. She refused to turn over subpoenaed emails and your "logic" dictates she is guilty.

Wrong. Number one, what she did was not a crime or violation. So that ends your false equivalence right there.

So you really want to make the case that NOT turning over subpoenaed email is NOT a crime? Nothing has ended, you simply have a double standard son.

There was no crime committed and Hillary Clinton still turned over her server. I'm not the one with the double standard because Hillary testified before congress, which trump did not
do, people associated with her testified before congress, while trump blocked them from doing so, the 33,000 emails were eventually found and so you can just drop your dumb ass false equivalence.

You fuckers always have a fucking whatabout when trump has fucked up. But the only whatabout is what about mother fucking trump. You are too scared to answer that, you and the rest of the you like how trump butt fucks you faggots.

The motherfucker is guilty. We all know he's guilty. The senators who voted not to convict knows he guilty. The bastard was not exonerated from shit, the decision was not to convict, not that his ass was innocent or exonerated.

 

[hunarcy]

Since you brought her up here.....using your logic her not turning over the 33000 emails makes her guilty.

Wrong. She testified before the committee several times. One for 11 hours. Trump refused to testify. Again, when you try arguing with me, your ass better know all the facts.

You aren't even in my league son. She refused to turn over subpoenaed emails and your "logic" dictates she is guilty.

Wrong. Number one, what she did was not a crime or violation. So that ends your false equivalence right there.

So you really want to make the case that NOT turning over subpoenaed email is NOT a crime? Nothing has ended, you simply have a double standard son.

Exerting Executive Privilege is not a crime. If the courts had found that Executive Privilege did not exist and the subpoenaed e-mails were not turned over, THAT would have been a crime.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Lie

Imbecile, "nuh-uh" isn't a rebuttal.

Presumption of innocence is a bedrock principle of the American criminal justice system...

So it is, the point is son that you can't show that it's not a "bedrock principle" of an impeachment. You aren't as "bright" as you think you are.

LOLOL

The only ones saying a principle of our criminal justice system is also applicable outside of our criminal justice system are idiots like you who claim it with zero proof.
You just say it and then believe it's true because you said it.

Still, it's a construct from our Constitution that applies to the law. Impeachments are political procedures, not legal ones. Case in point, get convicted of a crime by our criminal justice system and you can face imprisonment. But get convicted in an impeachment trial, and you don't face imprisonment.

We're making progress, you admit you can't prove it. You say it and that makes it true. Allow me to help.

"Impeachment in the United States is the process by which a legislature (usually in the form of the lower house) brings charges against a civil officer of crimes allegedly committed,
. Impeachment may occur at the federal level or the state level. The federal House of Representatives can impeach federal officials, including the president, and each state's legislature can impeach state officials, including the governor, in accordance with their respective federal or state constitution.

Most impeachments have concerned alleged crimes comitted while in office, though there have been a few cases in which officials have been impeached and subsequently convictd for crimes committed prior to taking office.[1] The impeached official remains in office until a trial is held. That trial, and removal from office if convicted, is separate from the act of impeachment itself.

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future."

Impeachment in the United States - Wikipedia
A lot of talk about crimes and shit in there

Impeachment is still not a criminal procedure nor is it tried by our criminal justice system. One can even be Impeached without committing a crime.

And thus exonerated.


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[San Souci]

GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP!


GOD BLESS ALL PATRIOTS!!!!

Yes. Our Great ,Just ,and Truthful President was ordained by God to save this country. USA was in danger. God was watching. Hitlery Clinton LOST.

 

[San Souci]

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AAHHHHH! Medusa!

 

[IM2]

trump proved it by blocking witnesses and documents. trump is guilty.

That's like saying I am guilty in a trial for refusing to talk to cops. Ridiculous...

Trump had nothing to prove, it was the job of the democrats to prove him guilty. They failed...

Nope it's not. If you were requested subpoenaed by the court and refused you go to jail. If you are being investigated for a crime and tell all witnesses not to testify and you defy court orders to turn over documents you go to jail. Trump did both. He did have something to prove. He refused to do so. He blocked witnesses and documents critical to the case and that's because doing so would have proven his guilt. trump is guilty. Your argument is a load o9f crap. Furthermore, you know he is guilty.

They held the trial according to the rules.

Trump was acquitted.

You lost, Trump won.

trump is guilty. You can make all the excuses you want to rationalize this joke of a trial because you're a republican, but trump is guilty. I lost nothing. But we all lost because trump still has a job.

You just contradicted yourself.


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I know your bitch ass wants to argue semantics just because I said Iost nothing then said we all lost. That shows what kind of child your ass is mentally. I lost nothing. We all lost.

 

[IM2]

GOD BLESS PRESIDENT TRUMP!


GOD BLESS ALL PATRIOTS!!!!

Yes. Our Great ,Just ,and Truthful President was ordained by God to save this country. USA was in danger. God was watching. Hitlery Clinton LOST.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

You are running from the question keemosabe.

Didn't run from anything. trump proved his guilt by what he did.

So you CAN'T prove it and hearsay is just fine.
You have fine legal mind there Malcolm.

Trumps actions proved his guilt. His blocking witnesses and documents is not hearsay. It is what he did.

So you don't really NEED for evidence a thing IS simply because you say it is....must be a heavy burden being both judge and jury for all things.

I find it rather rich that a bunch of republicans make claims like this while declaring that joe Biden blackmailed Ukraine with no evidence. trumps behavior proved his guilt. This is not about being judge or jury, if trump was innocent he doesn't block any information that proves it.

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[Butch_Coolidge]

So did Trumps...................10 more than Clinton's.

Liar.

Zero witnessed were called to testify at Impeached Trump's trial

Adolph Schiffler called 17 witnesses, dumbass. Trump got to call zero.

And still, for the first time in U.S. history, not a single witness called in to testify during an impeachment trial. What are you cons so afraid of?

That lie has been debunked.

Except it hasn't.

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[Butch_Coolidge]

Poor stupid little yellow coward. Hey asshole, in this country one does not have to prove innocence. Burden of proof is on YOU dumbestfuck. Keep showing how dumb you are. Slapping you is so easy.

LOL

Yet another dumbfuck who doesn't understand presumption of innocence applies to criminal cases, not political procedures.

Exonerated. Innocent of charges. Forever.

trump is guilty. You know he's guilty. So repeating that madness means nothing.

Exonerated.

Innocent.

You lose again, loser.

trump is guilty. Just face it. Your party is complicit in a crime against the people of the United States. I've lost nothing because I know the truth.

Ha!ha! Loser [emoji1787].


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[Butch_Coolidge]

Wow, cutting edge technology for imbeciles.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

I post a direct contradiction to your claims and you respond with "Nuh-Uh". You're getting bitch slapped here kid.

LOLOL

You're fucking brain-dead, con. You refuted nothing. You posted a link to wikipedia stating impeachment is a procedure of our legislative branch to charge civil officers of a crime.

Not only does your link fail to show laws or principles of the criminal justice system apply to Impeachments, it even cites examples of how it doesn't. You posted...

In impeachment proceedings, the defendant does not risk forfeiture of life, liberty, or property. According to the Constitution, the only penalties allowed to be imposed by the Senate are removal from office and disqualification from holding any federal office in the future." ​

Get charged with a crime in our criminal justice system and you may risk forfeiture of life -- that doesn't apply to impeachments.

Get charged with a crime in our criminal justice system and you may risk forfeiture of liberty -- that doesn't apply to impeachments.

Get charged with a crime in our criminal justice system and you may risk forfeiture of property -- that doesn't apply to impeachments.

You posted that but you're too stupid to understand what you posted.

I understand it completely son. You're getting bitch slapped here. You're too stupid to understand that it is talking about impeachment. You aren't even a worthy opponent kid.

LOLOLOL

I used your own link to prove you wrong and you're still ignorant.

Sorry son, I understand your need to perform intellectual gymnastics, it hurts when a perceived "inferior" continually bitch slaps you. I have slapped you down on every single contention you've made.

LOLOL

This is just like your claim that Impeached Trump was entitled to presumption of innocence -- you believe it because you say it.

And then it happened. Winning.


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[San Souci]

Well ,that picture of "X" is sure funny. Street justice sure happened there.

 

[Faun]

Since you brought her up here.....using your logic her not turning over the 33000 emails makes her guilty.

Wrong. She testified before the committee several times. One for 11 hours. Trump refused to testify. Again, when you try arguing with me, your ass better know all the facts.

You aren't even in my league son. She refused to turn over subpoenaed emails and your "logic" dictates she is guilty.

Wrong. Number one, what she did was not a crime or violation. So that ends your false equivalence right there.

These yahoos are nothing if not entertaining.

At the same time they declare the House had to go to court to enforce subpoenas to get witnesses and documents, they also declare Hillary is guilty of ignoring a subpoena even though the House didn't go to court to enforce that subpoena.

It’s over. You lost. Go home. If you don’t like it, contact your senators. But you won’t because you’re weak.


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LOL

Oh? What did I lose? I said months ago that impeached Trump would never be convicted by this Republican-led Senate.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Trump was determined...

INNOCENT.

Oops.

Uh, no, he was determined to be "not guilty," not "innocent"...

Please remind us, what's the question that Senators voted on?

The question was, is Impeached Trump "guilty" or "not guilty" on the articles of impeachment against him. They were not asked to vote "guilty" or "innocent."

OK, we're getting somewhere.

Based on the question Senators voted 47 - guilty, and 53 - not guilty, and Roberts confirmed the count.

According to your logic, he should have said... Senator votes are: 47 - not innocent, 53 - innocent?

Come on, stop threading the needle, even you're better than that.

Again, he was found "not guilty," not "innocent."

Not guilty means innocent. Watch a trial sometime.


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[Butch_Coolidge]

Since you brought her up here.....using your logic her not turning over the 33000 emails makes her guilty.

Wrong. She testified before the committee several times. One for 11 hours. Trump refused to testify. Again, when you try arguing with me, your ass better know all the facts.

You aren't even in my league son. She refused to turn over subpoenaed emails and your "logic" dictates she is guilty.

Wrong. Number one, what she did was not a crime or violation. So that ends your false equivalence right there.

These yahoos are nothing if not entertaining.

At the same time they declare the House had to go to court to enforce subpoenas to get witnesses and documents, they also declare Hillary is guilty of ignoring a subpoena even though the House didn't go to court to enforce that subpoena.

But, but, but, Hillary. [emoji1787]


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[Norman]

Uh, no, he was determined to be "not guilty," not "innocent"...

Please remind us, what's the question that Senators voted on?

The question was, is Impeached Trump "guilty" or "not guilty" on the articles of impeachment against him. They were not asked to vote "guilty" or "innocent."

OK, we're getting somewhere.

Based on the question Senators voted 47 - guilty, and 53 - not guilty, and Roberts confirmed the count.

According to your logic, he should have said... Senator votes are: 47 - not innocent, 53 - innocent?

Come on, stop threading the needle, even you're better than that.

Again, he was found "not guilty," not "innocent."

Not guilty means innocent. Watch a trial sometime.


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In left wing alternate universe accused means guilty and innocent until proven guilty is a dictatorial doctrine.