Trump has now been implicated in a federal crime

[Faun]

Where did I say it’s not consensual? And what cheater did I not call out for being a cheater?

How about the one who committed perjury and obstruction over what you folks said was a consensual affair, you folks claimed it wasn't really a crime.

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What about him? I called him a piece of shit for cheating on his wife.

Did you support his removal for his admitted crimes?

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Nope. I didn’t see where lying about an affair was that big of a deal and it had nothing to do with his presidency other than the humiliation he brought to it.

Perjury and obstruction are felonies, that made it a big deal, hypocrite.

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That’s your opinion. Lying about getting a blow job to hide an extramarital affair, to me, is not big enough to throw a president out of office.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

It wasn't a campaign expenditure, no reason to report it.

Of course it was. Keeping a porn star from going public just 11 days before an election with her account of an affair with Trump was certainly a benefit to his campaign.

And yet, not a campaign expense.

The New York Times published many, many articles which they thought were a benefit to the Hillary campaign, yet they didn't report a single one as a campaign contribution.

There’s no evidence Clinton paid them for it. So there’s no monetary value.

There’s no evidence Clinton paid them for it.

A bunch of positive stories in the New York Times....no monetary value?

You can't be serious.

This is your problem.

Is there is a positive article it can't possibly be because that the subject person did something position.

When there is an article about something stupid Trump did, it is fake news .

Is there is a positive article it can't possibly be because that the subject person did something position.

Doesn't matter, a positive article is a benefit to the Hillary campaign.

 

[OKTexas]

People plea to lesser crimes all the time that they didn't commit. That's not proof they actually did it. The charge was nothing but a way to try to connect Trump to wrong doing. It's no where close to proof that Trump did anything improper.

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Yeah, people plea guilty to lesser crimes when offered a deal. But they’re still guilty of the original charges. How stupid do you have to be to plead guilty to any crime, and face prison, when you’re completely innocent?

Stop trying to play word games fool. Pleading to a lesser charge for a prosecutors agreement to drop a more serious one happens all the time. And yeah, it's entirely possible you could be totally innocent of the lesser crime, that doesn't make you completely innocent, does it.

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”Stop trying to play word games fool. Pleading to a lesser charge for a prosecutors agreement to drop a more serious one happens all the time.”

Is English your second language? I just said that.

People plea to lesser crimes all the time that they didn't commit.​

Yet you claim Cohen committed everything he plead to, yet it has never been proven in court.

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So, you think he needs to go to court when he admitted these things?

Read the damn thread, all that has been covered.

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[Toddsterpatriot]

Almost all of the donations from Giustra came before Hillary was Secretary of State

The Russians were bribing a sitting US Senator?

Who were the Russians bribing? Almost all of the money came from Canadians.

Who were the Russians bribing?

The junior Senator from New York.

Almost all of the money came from Canadians.

From business partners of Russians..

Why on Earth would Russians bribe a junior Senator who had no say in approving the Rosatom business deal?? You make no sense.

And no, the money did not come from business partners of Russia as it was donated years before Rosatom sought to purchase a share of Uranium One. And Giustra, the Canadian who donated most of the money to the Clinton Foundation, did so before he left Uranium One which was also prior to the Rosatom deal.

One would expect, if rightards had a brain, they would at some point learn that this shit has been so thoroughly debunked (even by Fox News), that they would give up on it and move on.

But no, no one ever accused a rightard if having a brain.

Why on Earth would Russians bribe a junior Senator

That is an excellent question. Maybe they were buying influence?

And no, the money did not come from business partners of Russia

Giustra didn't have business interests with Russia/Russians?

”That is an excellent question. Maybe they were buying influence?

Buy influence from whom?? According to nutcases like you, it was someone with absolutely no influence.

”Giustra didn't have business interests with Russia/Russians?”

Again, he sold off his interests years before the Rosatom deal.

Buy influence from whom??

From a sitting US Senator who was favored to win the 2008 Presidential election.

 

[Butch_Coolidge]

Drumpf claimed he never knew about the payment. You are being led by a liar and carnival barker

And Bill Clinton said he never had sex with Monica...to attempt to save his marriage...I didn't hear you bellyaching back then....its his personal life...remember?....

I cant stand Clinton and the reason you never heard me was because I was too young.

You can't stand Clinton because the real truth came out about Trump. Get yourself together. You're behaving like a fool.

You refer to today’s truth, or this weeks truth. When’s he getting arrested, indicted, impeached? Hasn’t happened in 2 years. Because there is nothing there. He must be the biggest criminal mastermind that ever was. None of the greatest criminal investigators can nab him. He’s outsmarted everyone.


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[Faun]

Obama was fined for inadvertently not reporting campaign finances. We’ll see if the FEC finds the same for trump, who secretively paid off a porn star to keep her mouth shut.

It's all comes down to intent, did Trump intend to violate laws he had never been subject to just a year before? Candidates rely on lawyers to keep them straight, Trumps lawyer seems to have failed. That doesn't prove intent on Trump, if it was a violation at all, which is debatable. BTW failing to report is failing to report, where's the equal treatment under the law?

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Impeachment doesn’t require intent.

It does in a trial in the senate. You're just not too smart, are ya?

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Imbecile, if it goes to the Senate, that means he’s already been impeached.

Impeachment automatically triggers a trial dipshit.

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Of course it does. That’s why you looked so stupid saying, ”It does in a trial in the senate,” in response to me pointing out, ”Impeachment doesn’t require intent,” since I was clearly talking about being impeached and not the ensuing trial.

 

[Faun]

I asked you two questions. Can't you answer?

Under what guidelines do you draw your conclusion?

Lol! Because that tells us everything you idiot. He wasn't straight with the American people exposing his lies about the source of the money. If you don't know the source, how can you claim it is or isn't a campaign expense? Answer, you can't, which is why you are so full of shit.

You tell me? You are the one who said it wasn't an expense. Lol!

Under what guidelines do you draw your conclusion?

Cohen didn't write a $130,000 payment to the campaign.
Daniels didn't receive a $130,000 payment from the campaign.

He wasn't straight with the American people exposing his lies about the source of the money.

Oh no! A politician wasn't straight with the American people. How unique.

You tell me?

No, neither occurred.

You are the one who said it wasn't an expense.

Only because it wasn't.

It doesn’t have to come from, or go to, the campaign. It only has to be of value to the campaign. And apparently, it was worth $130,000 of value to the campaign to avoid the public from hearing about a major scandal just 11 days before an election.

It doesn’t have to come from, or go to, the campaign. It only has to be of value to the campaign.

What was the value of Bernie's endorsement to Hillary's campaign? Must have been worth millions.

Really, you are claiming Hillary bribed Bernie??? Really??? You are that pathetic?

Really, you are claiming Hillary bribed Bernie???

Not at all.
He gave her a very valuable endorsement.
Where did she claim the value in her FEC filings?

Why would she have to if she wasn’t working with Bernie to get that endorsement?

 

[eagle1462010]

How about the one who committed perjury and obstruction over what you folks said was a consensual affair, you folks claimed it wasn't really a crime.

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What about him? I called him a piece of shit for cheating on his wife.

Did you support his removal for his admitted crimes?

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Nope. I didn’t see where lying about an affair was that big of a deal and it had nothing to do with his presidency other than the humiliation he brought to it.

Perjury and obstruction are felonies, that made it a big deal, hypocrite.

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That’s your opinion. Lying about getting a blow job to hide an extramarital affair, to me, is not big enough to throw a president out of office.

And yet another President doing a porn star many years before thinking about being President is enough. LOL

Your a fucking Hypocrite Mr. Mueller. The porn star was basically blackmailing him to make a buck off of it but that doesn't bother you..........LOL

We have to listen to you lunatics for another 6 years................who's got the dang earplugs.

 

[Faun]

Of course it was. Keeping a porn star from going public just 11 days before an election with her account of an affair with Trump was certainly a benefit to his campaign.

And yet, not a campaign expense.

The New York Times published many, many articles which they thought were a benefit to the Hillary campaign, yet they didn't report a single one as a campaign contribution.

There’s no evidence Clinton paid them for it. So there’s no monetary value.

There’s no evidence Clinton paid them for it.

A bunch of positive stories in the New York Times....no monetary value?

You can't be serious.

Oh? How much is it worth in dollars?

Yes. More than $2700?

Or maybe less than $2,700. Who valuates such an endorsement?

 

[OKTexas]

How about the one who committed perjury and obstruction over what you folks said was a consensual affair, you folks claimed it wasn't really a crime.

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What about him? I called him a piece of shit for cheating on his wife.

Did you support his removal for his admitted crimes?

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Nope. I didn’t see where lying about an affair was that big of a deal and it had nothing to do with his presidency other than the humiliation he brought to it.

Perjury and obstruction are felonies, that made it a big deal, hypocrite.

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Perjury and obstruction are felonies, that made it a big deal. You're talking about Trump, right?

Nope, once again try reading the fucking thread.

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[Faun]

Let me know when you find one. You realize, if trump cared about not hurting Melanie, he wouldn’t have cheated on her while she was carrying his child; or any other time.

Let me know when you find one.

Found it long ago...


Been using it for years.



Not seeing a lot of difference between his and Clinton, in the sexual advances area.

yet y'all gave him a pass

Now WTF does that have to do with you idiotically saying trump hid Stormy for Melanie’s sake when it’s clear, he just doesn’t care that much about whether or not he hurts her?

He kept it from her for 10 years..

Think about it.

Then why pay off Stormy after so many years?

To keep HER mouth shut. Without collaberation, no proof.

Melania happy..

Then why not pay her off years ago?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

How do you know that?

Because it's not a campaign expense.
Why do you feel it is?

I asked you two questions. Can't you answer?

Under federal law, an individual could not donate more than $2,700 directly to Trump’s primary or general election campaign in 2016.

I agree, a donation that size to the campaign would be an issue. This wasn't. It isn't.

Under what guidelines do you draw your conclusion?

Remember, Trump already lied about where the money came from.

So what?

Lol! Because that tells us everything you idiot. He wasn't straight with the American people exposing his lies about the source of the money. If you don't know the source, how can you claim it is or isn't a campaign expense? Answer, you can't, which is why you are so full of shit.

So for you to say it is not a campaign expense,

Was a check cut to the campaign? From the campaign?

You tell me? You are the one who said it wasn't an expense. Lol!

Under what guidelines do you draw your conclusion?

Cohen didn't write a $130,000 payment to the campaign.
Daniels didn't receive a $130,000 payment from the campaign.

He wasn't straight with the American people exposing his lies about the source of the money.

Oh no! A politician wasn't straight with the American people. How unique.

You tell me?

No, neither occurred.

You are the one who said it wasn't an expense.

Only because it wasn't.

It doesn’t have to come from, or go to, the campaign. It only has to be of value to the campaign. And apparently, it was worth $130,000 of value to the campaign to avoid the public from hearing about a major scandal just 11 days before an election.

It doesn’t have to come from, or go to, the campaign. It only has to be of value to the campaign.

What was the value of Bernie's endorsement to Hillary's campaign? Must have been worth millions.

Still no evidence of Hillary working with Bernie, or The NY Times, for their endorsement.

Still no evidence of Hillary working with Bernie, or The NY Times, for their endorsement

Were positive stories written about her?
Did Bernie endorse her?

Where did she claim those things of value given to her campaign?
Or did she violate campaign finance laws by not reporting something of value?

 

[rightwinger]

Worst I have seen since Nixon

Looks really bad for Trump. Hope he enjoys his nothing Burger

 

[Auld Phart]

Found it long ago...


Been using it for years.



Not seeing a lot of difference between his and Clinton, in the sexual advances area.

yet y'all gave him a pass

Now WTF does that have to do with you idiotically saying trump hid Stormy for Melanie’s sake when it’s clear, he just doesn’t care that much about whether or not he hurts her?

He kept it from her for 10 years..

Think about it.

Then why pay off Stormy after so many years?

To keep HER mouth shut. Without collaberation, no proof.

Melania happy..

Then why not pay her off years ago?

It wasn't going to be HEADLINE NEWS years ago

 

[Faun]

Yeah, people plea guilty to lesser crimes when offered a deal. But they’re still guilty of the original charges. How stupid do you have to be to plead guilty to any crime, and face prison, when you’re completely innocent?

Stop trying to play word games fool. Pleading to a lesser charge for a prosecutors agreement to drop a more serious one happens all the time. And yeah, it's entirely possible you could be totally innocent of the lesser crime, that doesn't make you completely innocent, does it.

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”Stop trying to play word games fool. Pleading to a lesser charge for a prosecutors agreement to drop a more serious one happens all the time.”

Is English your second language? I just said that.

People plea to lesser crimes all the time that they didn't commit.​

Yet you claim Cohen committed everything he plead to, yet it has never been proven in court.

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Quote me saying that......

No need you've been saying it all through this thread.

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Liar. That’s why you avoided quoting me.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Under what guidelines do you draw your conclusion?

Cohen didn't write a $130,000 payment to the campaign.
Daniels didn't receive a $130,000 payment from the campaign.

He wasn't straight with the American people exposing his lies about the source of the money.

Oh no! A politician wasn't straight with the American people. How unique.

You tell me?

No, neither occurred.

You are the one who said it wasn't an expense.

Only because it wasn't.

It doesn’t have to come from, or go to, the campaign. It only has to be of value to the campaign. And apparently, it was worth $130,000 of value to the campaign to avoid the public from hearing about a major scandal just 11 days before an election.

It doesn’t have to come from, or go to, the campaign. It only has to be of value to the campaign.

What was the value of Bernie's endorsement to Hillary's campaign? Must have been worth millions.

Really, you are claiming Hillary bribed Bernie??? Really??? You are that pathetic?

Really, you are claiming Hillary bribed Bernie???

Not at all.
He gave her a very valuable endorsement.
Where did she claim the value in her FEC filings?

Why would she have to if she wasn’t working with Bernie to get that endorsement?

Why would she have to if she wasn’t working with Bernie to get that endorsement?

Why does a valuable gift to her campaign become okay to leave off her FEC filings, ever?

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

And yet, not a campaign expense.

The New York Times published many, many articles which they thought were a benefit to the Hillary campaign, yet they didn't report a single one as a campaign contribution.

There’s no evidence Clinton paid them for it. So there’s no monetary value.

There’s no evidence Clinton paid them for it.

A bunch of positive stories in the New York Times....no monetary value?

You can't be serious.

Oh? How much is it worth in dollars?

Yes. More than $2700?

Or maybe less than $2,700. Who valuates such an endorsement?

Or maybe more? Maybe millions?

 

[Faun]

Now WTF does that have to do with you idiotically saying trump hid Stormy for Melanie’s sake when it’s clear, he just doesn’t care that much about whether or not he hurts her?

He kept it from her for 10 years..

Think about it.

Then why pay off Stormy after so many years?

To keep HER mouth shut. Without collaberation, no proof.

Melania happy..

Then why not pay her off years ago?

It wasn't going to be HEADLINE NEWS years ago

How would trump know Melanie wouldn’t find out when Stormy Daniels was fishing around the Internet to get her story published? You make no sense. You’re just making it up as you go along.

 

[OKTexas]

Trump was NOT implicated, I showed why here which has been completely ignored so far:

post 1162

Read the dam MEMO that fully outlines Cohens guilt.

At the direction of Trump?????? WTF? Are you that dumb.

Did he tell him to commit a crime, don't think so. If a crime was committed Cohen did it all on his own, he was the lawyer after all.

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[georgephillip]

Why do you find it so difficult to defend Trump's criminal actions?

The Michael Cohen Sentencing Memos Are Damning for Trump

"In September, 2015, Trump approved Cohen’s plan to reach out to the Russian government.

"That November, Cohen 'spoke with a Russian national who claimed to be a ‘trusted person’ in the Russian Federation who could offer the campaign ‘political synergy’ and ‘synergy on a government level.’

"Cohen’s contact 'repeatedly proposed' a meeting between Trump and Russian President Vladimir Putin, suggesting that it would have a 'phenomenal' effect on Trump’s efforts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow, which Mueller’s filing calls the 'Moscow Project.'"

Are you truly gullible enough to believe Trump is NOT a gold-plated con man who lies as often as most people breathe?

He is in the first couple of stages of the grieving process.

Which of those Seven Stages of Grief do you imagine Trump currently occupies?

The Michael Cohen Sentencing Memos Are Damning for Trump

"The Southern District of New York’s simultaneously released sentencing memo also has serious legal ramifications for the President.

"In describing how Cohen bought the silence of two women with whom Trump had affairs in order to help Trump win the Presidency, it makes clear that Cohen 'acted in coordination with and at the direction of Individual-1.'

"Three months ago, Cohen said in his guilty plea that this was true and that the President was implicated in a criminal scheme to sway the election.

"Now, though, federal prosecutors working under Robert Khuzami, the acting U.S. Attorney, feel confident enough in this assertion that they have tied themselves to it."

I'm guessing "Anger."

President was implicated in a criminal scheme to sway the election.


By saying he didn't have sex with that woman? Or paying off another girl almost a million dollars in a civil suit while he was president?


Quit embarrassing yourselves..


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Anyone who voted for or supports Trump really shouldn't lecture about embarrassment:

Michael Cohen told Mueller's office about contacts between Trump aides and Russia

"After the filing from Mueller, Trump tweeted that it 'totally clears the President. Thank you!'

"But in fact there was nothing in either court filing that exonerated Trump, and one portion strongly suggested that Trump was personally involved in a campaign finance violation.

"The Manhattan prosecutors said Cohen had paid off two women to suppress their stories about affairs with Trump — a campaign expense that was improperly not reported — and said he did so "in coordination with and at the direction of" Trump."

And I'll say it again and again here. If Trump is an embarrassment, then the Demon-crats ought to be shamed out of politics completely because of Trump... He was actually a referendum on Demon-crats failures in policy, and in other radical position's the crats had taken over the years.

Otherwise everything came to a head, and Trump is bursting the Demon-crat pimples one by one, but do you think the crats are thankful for the clearer skin Trump has given to them ?? Nope, they just want to relapse into obscurity once again, and especially as the voters dig deeper in order to get the answers wanted in it all, and they are not the answers being sought after.

Trump is playing you...

Trump Engaged in Suspect Tax Schemes as He Reaped Riches From His Father

"By age 3, Mr. Trump was earning $200,000 a year in today’s dollars from his father’s empire.

"He was a millionaire by age 8.

"By the time he was 17, his father had given him part ownership of a 52-unit apartment building.

"Soon after Mr. Trump graduated from college, he was receiving the equivalent of $1 million a year from his father.

"The money increased with the years, to more than $5 million annually in his 40s and 50s."