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I know....everyone knows he voted thousands of times across America because ACORN was just that good....Even Mickey Mouse voted Obama....You guys have the weirdest damned voting apparatus in your states. Where I vote, and everyplace I've ever voted in three states, I go to my ASSIGNED polling place, my name is on the list, it is CHECKED OFF when I enter to vote.
How am I supposed to vote again when I am only allowed to vote in one place and it is on record that I have already voted?
How many times have you gone to vote and found someone had voted under your name?
I've heard that before, and the right winger who said it actually believed it was true.
And sadly, LWNJs don't.....I know....everyone knows he voted thousands of times across America because ACORN was just that good....Even Mickey Mouse voted Obama....You guys have the weirdest damned voting apparatus in your states. Where I vote, and everyplace I've ever voted in three states, I go to my ASSIGNED polling place, my name is on the list, it is CHECKED OFF when I enter to vote.
How am I supposed to vote again when I am only allowed to vote in one place and it is on record that I have already voted?
How many times have you gone to vote and found someone had voted under your name?
I've heard that before, and the right winger who said it actually believed it was true.
Sadly, RWNJs actually believe that.
And sadly, LWNJs don't.....I know....everyone knows he voted thousands of times across America because ACORN was just that good....Even Mickey Mouse voted Obama....How many times have you gone to vote and found someone had voted under your name?
I've heard that before, and the right winger who said it actually believed it was true.
Sadly, RWNJs actually believe that.
Racist, bigoted, intolerant mousephobe.......And sadly, LWNJs don't.....I know....everyone knows he voted thousands of times across America because ACORN was just that good....Even Mickey Mouse voted Obama....
I've heard that before, and the right winger who said it actually believed it was true.
Sadly, RWNJs actually believe that.
Oh please give me some reason to believe Mickey Mouse actually voted.
Racist, bigoted, intolerant mousephobe.......And sadly, LWNJs don't.....I know....everyone knows he voted thousands of times across America because ACORN was just that good....I've heard that before, and the right winger who said it actually believed it was true.
Sadly, RWNJs actually believe that.
Oh please give me some reason to believe Mickey Mouse actually voted.
Actually you didn't, because Coleman couldn't prove his allegation of fraud in court. What you did provide is an instance of an election so close that it fell within the margin of error of vote tabulation, not unlike Fla in 2000.The fact you went for a cut-paste reply is ample evidence you are not at all knowledgeable on this subject. There is no way Trump can close the gap to the point cheating becomes necessary or even possible.In 2008 Minnesota Senate race incumbent republican Norm Coleman narrowly defeated democrat Al Franken. Close enough that a recount was mandated. In the recount, Al Franken was declared the winner by a 312 vote edge. Rampant voter fraud charges followed. And yet, nothing came of it for reasons I cannot recall? But it was Franken’s election that gave Obama the vote he needed to pass Obamacare.I don't think we need any more evidence that Hillary is the cheating type.I'm waiting for trump to come out and say "I think we need to check into Hillary's past games of checkers, I mean no one's checked that as far as I know, I think it's possible, I mean, you don't know, it's possible, if she won a single game of checkers she cheated. There's no way she could win a game of checkers, so, and you can't say one way or the other but seriously, have you ever seen Hillary Clinton win at checkers? I don't think anyone has so you just don't know, but I think, I've heard, that her checker games could have been rigged, much like the election."
Bat --- shite --- cray --- cray
We're just waiting for others in authority to acknowledge that, much less do anything about it.
I surely would not put steering an election past her (although I don't think that will be necessary). Many have done it.
Yes please, explain how that is 'done'.
One case of voter fraud alone found in many links shows how Franken could have tipped the election. The whole system is absolutely bogus and corrupt. Is everyone blackmailed to shut up?
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Widespread Voter Fraud Documented in New Minnesota Supreme Court Case - American Experiment
But for voter fraud in Minnesota, we would not have Obamacare. That is the scenario of a case being heard by the Supreme Court of Minnesota, over likely voter fraud that made the difference in the 2008 election of Senator Al Franken, whose vote was absolutely necessary for the passage of Obamacare.
After a grueling recount, the Minnesota Voters Alliance (MVA) found 941 ineligible felons who were allowed to vote in 2008 alone, exceeding the 312 vote margin separating DFL candidate Al Franken and GOP Sen. Norm Coleman after a grueling recount.
This is stunning. It was Franken’s razor-thin “victory” over incumbent Senator Norm Coleman that allowed the Democrats to ram Obamacare down the throats of the American people. If we assume that 80% of the 941 ineligible felons voted for Al Franken–a conservative assumption, as nearly all convicted felons are Democrats–then Franken’s victory is attributable to voter fraud.
The lawyers representing plaintiffs in the case have done a great deal of digging, and have come up with names, dates and places–illegal votes that likely swung Minnesota elections toward Democratic candidates. The illegal votes that plaintiffs have been able to document are only a small fraction of the actual total:
Court papers demonstrate how the incomplete list of ineligible voters provided to local election officials routinely allows felons, wards of the state, immigrants [who are not citizens] and other ineligible persons to register and vote.
“The 1,366 identified felons who have been permitted to vote is believed to be only a fraction of the true total,” the 110 page court petition filed by MVA and former Rep. Kirk Stensrud states. “Cooperation from the Secretary of State would have allowed for a more complete accounting of the number of ineligible persons who have been permitted to vote.”
The Minnesota Voters Alliance group behind the challenge alleges the actual number of illegal ballots submitted by ineligible voters far surpasses the 1,670 votes documented through a painstaking search of voting records hampered by a lack of cooperation by Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon.images
Altogether, more than 100,000 Minnesota felons had their right to vote restricted and reported to the Minnesota Secretary of State between 2003 and 2015. But the Minnesota Secretary of State only notifies local election officials of the ineligible status of felons and others if they’re already registered to vote in the Statewide Voter Registration System.
Court papers demonstrate how the incomplete list of ineligible voters provided to local election officials routinely allows felons, wards of the state, immigrants and other ineligible persons to register and vote.
“The 1,366 identified felons who have been permitted to vote is believed to be only a fraction of the true total,” the 110 page court petition filed by MVA and former Rep. Kirk Stensrud states. “Cooperation from the Secretary of State would have allowed for a more complete accounting of the number of ineligible persons who have been permitted to vote.”
Secretary of State Simon has refused to release the data that would enable MVA to verify the actual number of ineligible people that have illegally cast a vote. In holding back the critical government data, Simon has ignored a Minnesota Department of Administration opinion stating that the voting records in question should be made public. “The Secretary of State plays a significant role with other election officials in permitting known ineligible felons to register or to vote,” court documents state.
Don't use the fall back "cut and paste" excuse to discredit the message.
Secondly, I never implied Hillary would cheat to defeat Trump. In fact, I said it was not necessary which implies I do not think she would.
I said, given her past and character if it were a very close race in some state I would not put it past powers that be in either party to try to manipulate the results --- and surely Hillary is of that ilk, imo. That is all that I said and I provided a recent example of it.
Moderate voters are looking for any sign that Trump is in any way Presidential and is able to control his outburststhis is what i like about trump, he says these things, he gets the reaction from the libtards; they accuse him of being a conspiracy theorist and then immediately start conjuring up conspiracy theories about him... when will they ever learn? pushing some notion that election fraud is impossible is about the same thing as confessing to it, you see? nothing trump said is unreasonable, and if hillary was smart she would be advising her people similarly as it's the responsible thing to do. public trust is fragile, and we don't want to have to get the supreme court involved in the mess. but never you mind rationality, for trump has spoken, and therefore the libtards must spin and spin until they puke and we all get a laugh.
I didn't see how he was a hitlery voter...you know, a birther.....Actually you didn't, because Coleman couldn't prove his allegation of fraud in court. What you did provide is an instance of an election so close that it fell within the margin of error of vote tabulation, not unlike Fla in 2000.The fact you went for a cut-paste reply is ample evidence you are not at all knowledgeable on this subject. There is no way Trump can close the gap to the point cheating becomes necessary or even possible.In 2008 Minnesota Senate race incumbent republican Norm Coleman narrowly defeated democrat Al Franken. Close enough that a recount was mandated. In the recount, Al Franken was declared the winner by a 312 vote edge. Rampant voter fraud charges followed. And yet, nothing came of it for reasons I cannot recall? But it was Franken’s election that gave Obama the vote he needed to pass Obamacare.I don't think we need any more evidence that Hillary is the cheating type.
We're just waiting for others in authority to acknowledge that, much less do anything about it.
I surely would not put steering an election past her (although I don't think that will be necessary). Many have done it.
Yes please, explain how that is 'done'.
One case of voter fraud alone found in many links shows how Franken could have tipped the election. The whole system is absolutely bogus and corrupt. Is everyone blackmailed to shut up?
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Widespread Voter Fraud Documented in New Minnesota Supreme Court Case - American Experiment
But for voter fraud in Minnesota, we would not have Obamacare. That is the scenario of a case being heard by the Supreme Court of Minnesota, over likely voter fraud that made the difference in the 2008 election of Senator Al Franken, whose vote was absolutely necessary for the passage of Obamacare.
After a grueling recount, the Minnesota Voters Alliance (MVA) found 941 ineligible felons who were allowed to vote in 2008 alone, exceeding the 312 vote margin separating DFL candidate Al Franken and GOP Sen. Norm Coleman after a grueling recount.
This is stunning. It was Franken’s razor-thin “victory” over incumbent Senator Norm Coleman that allowed the Democrats to ram Obamacare down the throats of the American people. If we assume that 80% of the 941 ineligible felons voted for Al Franken–a conservative assumption, as nearly all convicted felons are Democrats–then Franken’s victory is attributable to voter fraud.
The lawyers representing plaintiffs in the case have done a great deal of digging, and have come up with names, dates and places–illegal votes that likely swung Minnesota elections toward Democratic candidates. The illegal votes that plaintiffs have been able to document are only a small fraction of the actual total:
Court papers demonstrate how the incomplete list of ineligible voters provided to local election officials routinely allows felons, wards of the state, immigrants [who are not citizens] and other ineligible persons to register and vote.
“The 1,366 identified felons who have been permitted to vote is believed to be only a fraction of the true total,” the 110 page court petition filed by MVA and former Rep. Kirk Stensrud states. “Cooperation from the Secretary of State would have allowed for a more complete accounting of the number of ineligible persons who have been permitted to vote.”
The Minnesota Voters Alliance group behind the challenge alleges the actual number of illegal ballots submitted by ineligible voters far surpasses the 1,670 votes documented through a painstaking search of voting records hampered by a lack of cooperation by Minnesota Secretary of State Steve Simon.images
Altogether, more than 100,000 Minnesota felons had their right to vote restricted and reported to the Minnesota Secretary of State between 2003 and 2015. But the Minnesota Secretary of State only notifies local election officials of the ineligible status of felons and others if they’re already registered to vote in the Statewide Voter Registration System.
Court papers demonstrate how the incomplete list of ineligible voters provided to local election officials routinely allows felons, wards of the state, immigrants and other ineligible persons to register and vote.
“The 1,366 identified felons who have been permitted to vote is believed to be only a fraction of the true total,” the 110 page court petition filed by MVA and former Rep. Kirk Stensrud states. “Cooperation from the Secretary of State would have allowed for a more complete accounting of the number of ineligible persons who have been permitted to vote.”
Secretary of State Simon has refused to release the data that would enable MVA to verify the actual number of ineligible people that have illegally cast a vote. In holding back the critical government data, Simon has ignored a Minnesota Department of Administration opinion stating that the voting records in question should be made public. “The Secretary of State plays a significant role with other election officials in permitting known ineligible felons to register or to vote,” court documents state.
Don't use the fall back "cut and paste" excuse to discredit the message.
Secondly, I never implied Hillary would cheat to defeat Trump. In fact, I said it was not necessary which implies I do not think she would.
I said, given her past and character if it were a very close race in some state I would not put it past powers that be in either party to try to manipulate the results --- and surely Hillary is of that ilk, imo. That is all that I said and I provided a recent example of it.
And you lied. You said Trump had a point that this election in PA could be stolen. He's losing uuuuugely. People like you are dangerous to society. You take your own partisan grudge to attempt to delegitimize elections. You're probably a focking birther.
I'm really worried about the divisiveness this sets up if he loses; not an insurrection, necessarily, but definitely a continuation of gridlock and complete inability to compromise and move on. I agree with you that it is not healthy for the country and is a terrible mistake.this is what i like about trump, he says these things, he gets the reaction from the libtards; they accuse him of being a conspiracy theorist and then immediately start conjuring up conspiracy theories about him... when will they ever learn? pushing some notion that election fraud is impossible is about the same thing as confessing to it, you see? nothing trump said is unreasonable, and if hillary was smart she would be advising her people similarly as it's the responsible thing to do. public trust is fragile, and we don't want to have to get the supreme court involved in the mess. but never you mind rationality, for trump has spoken, and therefore the libtards must spin and spin until they puke and we all get a laugh.
Trump said that the only way he can lose in Pennsylvania is if there is voter fraud. That's unreasonable as hell, and amounts to a threat of insurrection if he does lose. Not only has he encouraged his voters to intimidate people at the polls, he's set them up with the notion that they've been cheated as the immediate fallback if he loses. This is a dangerous game he's playing, and the people supporting him are making a terrible mistake.
I've been voting over 40 years and never saw it happen with me or any other voter. I have never met a single person in my life who went to the polls and found someone had voted in his nameNever. Have you? Is the dead thing Owebo referenced the reason some states pushed for photo ID? In our state, it's cheap to get one. In North Carolina, though, a poster said it can cost over $100 if you need to get a copy of your birth certificate first. Outrageous. I've worked with students so broke that even getting one here which isn't expensive took a couple months of pinching pennies (you need one to take your GED). It may be hard to imagine being that broke, that $35 might as well be $3,500, but it happens.You guys have the weirdest damned voting apparatus in your states. Where I vote, and everyplace I've ever voted in three states, I go to my ASSIGNED polling place, my name is on the list, it is CHECKED OFF when I enter to vote.
How am I supposed to vote again when I am only allowed to vote in one place and it is on record that I have already voted?
How many times have you gone to vote and found someone had voted under your name?
As you wish. But I said nothing about Trump's statements, for the 5th time!Actually you didn't, because Coleman couldn't prove his allegation of fraud in court. What you did provide is an instance of an election so close that it fell within the margin of error of vote tabulation, not unlike Fla in 2000.
And you lied. You said Trump had a point that this election in PA could be stolen. He's losing uuuuugely. People like you are dangerous to society. You take your own partisan grudge to attempt to delegitimize elections. You're probably a focking birther.
If Trump wins, the plantation will riot and burn America down...I'm really worried about the divisiveness this sets up if he loses; not an insurrection, necessarily, but definitely a continuation of gridlock and complete inability to compromise and move on. I agree with you that it is not healthy for the country and is a terrible mistake.this is what i like about trump, he says these things, he gets the reaction from the libtards; they accuse him of being a conspiracy theorist and then immediately start conjuring up conspiracy theories about him... when will they ever learn? pushing some notion that election fraud is impossible is about the same thing as confessing to it, you see? nothing trump said is unreasonable, and if hillary was smart she would be advising her people similarly as it's the responsible thing to do. public trust is fragile, and we don't want to have to get the supreme court involved in the mess. but never you mind rationality, for trump has spoken, and therefore the libtards must spin and spin until they puke and we all get a laugh.
Trump said that the only way he can lose in Pennsylvania is if there is voter fraud. That's unreasonable as hell, and amounts to a threat of insurrection if he does lose. Not only has he encouraged his voters to intimidate people at the polls, he's set them up with the notion that they've been cheated as the immediate fallback if he loses. This is a dangerous game he's playing, and the people supporting him are making a terrible mistake.
It is true with Republicans who are eating their own and looking for any scapegoat other than their own crazinessEvery dying movement goes through a paranoia phase. This is where the Right is at.
I'm really worried about the divisiveness this sets up if he loses; not an insurrection, necessarily, but definitely a continuation of gridlock and complete inability to compromise and move on. I agree with you that it is not healthy for the country and is a terrible mistake.this is what i like about trump, he says these things, he gets the reaction from the libtards; they accuse him of being a conspiracy theorist and then immediately start conjuring up conspiracy theories about him... when will they ever learn? pushing some notion that election fraud is impossible is about the same thing as confessing to it, you see? nothing trump said is unreasonable, and if hillary was smart she would be advising her people similarly as it's the responsible thing to do. public trust is fragile, and we don't want to have to get the supreme court involved in the mess. but never you mind rationality, for trump has spoken, and therefore the libtards must spin and spin until they puke and we all get a laugh.
Trump said that the only way he can lose in Pennsylvania is if there is voter fraud. That's unreasonable as hell, and amounts to a threat of insurrection if he does lose. Not only has he encouraged his voters to intimidate people at the polls, he's set them up with the notion that they've been cheated as the immediate fallback if he loses. This is a dangerous game he's playing, and the people supporting him are making a terrible mistake.
No, the rightwing internet media are the purveyors of the most ridiculous of lies.If you have direct evidence then go to the FBI or Attorney General. The documented cases of actual voter fraud have been less than 10 if I remember correctly. It is an issue that does not exist.
I DO think they need to keep voting a paper only endeavor as using electronic machines with computers IS to easy to hack and cheat with. But until there is some proven incident of large scale fraud or tampering it is a non-issue. Trump saying it only shows that he knows what is coming now.
Oh, sure. The Attorney General has proven to be totally in the bag for the president. How naive can anyone be to think these people are not under direct orders? How many scandals and bogus judgement and timid backoffs by the opposition do we have to be made aware of? Only the internet media has the courage to reveal the truth to all the subterfuge there is in Washington. I suppose you saw no questionable judgments by the head of the FBI lately either?
The minnesota senate case was a huge national matter. Not in the least do I doubt this was manipulated, maybe by both sides. I am sure if there was a judgement it was biased, maybe by coercion, or maybe the rulers had a strong preference.
I am not talking about Trump at all and surely not defending his desperate comments.
