Trump: Largest Debt per year by any President

[Brain357]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

 

[denmark]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

It’s (not) funny that Republicans want “less government”, yet the last US President who lowered Federal debt was a Democrat (Clinton).

I was only born in 1980 so forgive my ignorance but did he not benefit from the .com era?

If you were born in 1980, you should realize that the “.com era” was in its infancy during Clinton years. Since 2001, the Internet has been on a roll for everyone’s benefit & loss.

 

[Fang]

Democrats were WARNED of Financial crisis and did NOTHING

Typical of Democrats, they we're warned of the impending housing crisis as early as 2001 by President Bush and ignored it. Fast forward to 2020, President Trump declares a national health crisis and starts banning flights while Democrats ignore it and even mock him. In both instances, Democrats and their MSM cohorts blame Republicans. 50% of America is completely ignorant to the truth and who ultimately is to blame. This is why President Trump fights with the MSM and takes no shit and why his supporters love it. It's about time a Republican stood up and called Democrats and the MSM out on their bullshit.

 

[Brain357]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

Revenues higher or lower?

 

[Brain357]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

Revenues higher or lower?

The rate of growth much lower. Notice it’s the smallest increase. Revenue always goes up when not in recession. Trump drastically cut the rate of growth with his tax cuts. Stop playing games, any idiot can see trump policy increased deficits. You are like a child.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

Who is "we"?

LOL --- you mean ISIS and Black Lives Matter? They flourished under BHO.

We all did quite well. Now the antisemites are flourishing.

Now the antisemites are flourishing.

Yeah, those Dem congresswomen are awful!!!

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

Revenues higher or lower?

The rate of growth much lower. Notice it’s the smallest increase. Revenue always goes up when not in recession. Trump drastically cut the rate of growth with his tax cuts. Stop playing games, any idiot can see trump policy increased deficits. You are like a child.

You just said lowering the taxes would lower revenue? So we lowered the corporate tax rate and revenue still went up? So we have an expense problem. Let me see. Do you agree that we have an expense problem? Yes or No?

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

Who is "we"?

LOL --- you mean ISIS and Black Lives Matter? They flourished under BHO.

We all did quite well. Now the antisemites are flourishing.

Now the antisemites are flourishing.

Yeah, those Dem congresswomen are awful!!!

THANK YOU!

 

[Brain357]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

Revenues higher or lower?

The rate of growth much lower. Notice it’s the smallest increase. Revenue always goes up when not in recession. Trump drastically cut the rate of growth with his tax cuts. Stop playing games, any idiot can see trump policy increased deficits. You are like a child.

You just said lowering the taxes would lower revenue? So we lowered the corporate tax rate and revenue still went up? So we have an expense problem. Let me see. Do you agree that we have an expense problem? Yes or No?

You agreed the expense problem was the same under Obama, yet trump drastically increased deficits.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

Revenues higher or lower?

The rate of growth much lower. Notice it’s the smallest increase. Revenue always goes up when not in recession. Trump drastically cut the rate of growth with his tax cuts. Stop playing games, any idiot can see trump policy increased deficits. You are like a child.

You just said lowering the taxes would lower revenue? So we lowered the corporate tax rate and revenue still went up? So we have an expense problem. Let me see. Do you agree that we have an expense problem? Yes or No?

You agreed the expense problem was the same under Obama, yet trump drastically increased deficits.

Because he spent more on the military, which also creates more jobs and innovation btw. OK, so we agree we have an expense problem and Trump has not addressed it in his first term. That we agree is bad. I hope he addresses it in his 2nd term.

Voila, we agree.

 

[Brain357]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

Revenues higher or lower?

The rate of growth much lower. Notice it’s the smallest increase. Revenue always goes up when not in recession. Trump drastically cut the rate of growth with his tax cuts. Stop playing games, any idiot can see trump policy increased deficits. You are like a child.

You just said lowering the taxes would lower revenue? So we lowered the corporate tax rate and revenue still went up? So we have an expense problem. Let me see. Do you agree that we have an expense problem? Yes or No?

You agreed the expense problem was the same under Obama, yet trump drastically increased deficits.

Because he spent more on the military, which also creates more jobs and innovation btw. OK, so we agree we have an expense problem and Trump has not addressed it in his first term. That we agree is bad. I hope he addresses it in his 2nd term.

Voila, we agree.

Yes trump has been awful for deficits and his policy has failed. Only a loser would vote for more failure.

 

[Toddsterpatriot]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

It’s (not) funny that Republicans want “less government”, yet the last US President who lowered Federal debt was a Democrat (Clinton).

the last US President who lowered Federal debt was a Democrat (Clinton).

Yeah, Clinton was a regular budget hawk. Always pushing for lower spending. DURR.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

Every single article is pro Obama and anti Trump.

No bias there folks....

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

Revenues higher or lower?

The rate of growth much lower. Notice it’s the smallest increase. Revenue always goes up when not in recession. Trump drastically cut the rate of growth with his tax cuts. Stop playing games, any idiot can see trump policy increased deficits. You are like a child.

You just said lowering the taxes would lower revenue? So we lowered the corporate tax rate and revenue still went up? So we have an expense problem. Let me see. Do you agree that we have an expense problem? Yes or No?

You agreed the expense problem was the same under Obama, yet trump drastically increased deficits.

Because he spent more on the military, which also creates more jobs and innovation btw. OK, so we agree we have an expense problem and Trump has not addressed it in his first term. That we agree is bad. I hope he addresses it in his 2nd term.

Voila, we agree.

Yes trump has been awful for deficits and his policy has failed. Only a loser would vote for more failure.

So I should not exercise my right as an American and vote for the candidate I choose to vote for? Only a loser would vilify someone for exercising their right to vote.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

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[Brain357]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

Every single article is pro Obama and anti Trump.

No bias there folks....

Numbers aren’t biased. It’s clear trump policy drastically increased deficits.

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Trumpâs Deficits Are Racing Past Obamaâs

President Trump oversaw falling Federal deficits, which is not surprising since he inherited the Great Recession. President Trump is generating unprecedented $1 trillion deficits in a growing economy.

www.forbes.com

President Trump on the other hand was handed an economy that was growing. In 2017, his first year in office the deficit grew to $666 billion, was $984 billion last year and is projected to be over $1 trillion in 2020 at $1.02 trillion. This would be a 74% increase in just four years and going forward the Federal deficit could escalate to $1.7 trillion in 2030.

When you compare the last three years of Obama’s Presidency vs. Trump’s first three years, Trump’s deficits will be almost $1 trillion greater at $2.47 trillion to $1.51 trillion for Obama. It doesn’t look like Trump’s tax cuts will pay for themselves.



Unprecedented deficits when the economy is growing

The Federal deficit is forecast to be 4.6% of GDP in fiscal 2020 while the economy’s real growth rate is a projected to be 2.2%. This growth rate is in-line with the economy growing at essentially 2.1% the last three quarters.

As shown in the two graphs below, since 1970 the only times, until now, that the deficit has been above 4% of GDP is when there has been a recession.

Every single article is pro Obama and anti Trump.

No bias there folks....

Numbers aren’t biased. It’s clear trump policy drastically increased deficits.

Right and our revenues have increased annually. You admit we have an expense problem. Thank you for that.

 

[Brain357]

Barack Obama: Added $8.588 trillion, a 74% increase from the $11.657 trillion debt at the end of Bush’s last budget, FY 2009.

Saying "Obama: Added $8.588 trillion" does not take in to account how much of that amount was due to factors out of his control, like inheriting a deep recession. One we could have recovered faster from if not for Repub sabotage.

He inherited the recovery. What are you talking about? LMAO!

You're so stupid.

U.S. recession, officially lasting from December 2007 to June 2009. When Did Obama take Office?

Do your own math.

He inherited a good economy and took credit for it.

Obama?

Obama inherited a disaster. Trump inherited a good economy and drastically increased deficits our children will have to pay for.

neither is true. you are a victim of the lying media

They are both true.

Obama inherited an economy that was working, then in 08 we had a market correction driven by bad democrat mortgage policy.

Trump inherited an economy that was working slowly, then his policies caused it to boom.

Then the Chinese virus hit-------------no one in the USA is responsible for that, the Chinese caused it and the entire world should make them pay

Obama inherited a shitstorm. Forbes magazine said that Trumps' success was a carry over from the Obama administration.

You admit Trump was successful? That’s a good first step.

We did well until trump policy started kicking in.

yeah, the lowest unemployment rate in history and the highest stock market and the cancellation of bad trade deals was just terrible for the country. and to meet face to face with Kim of NK, how awful. to put the most sanctions ever on Russia and Iran, destroyed our country, right?

This country has needed a business approach for many years, we finally have it and will have it for at least another 4 years. Hopefully by 2024 the entire country will realize what a failure the dem/lib policies have been and will forever reject the dem commies.

Unemployment rate was going down for years before trump. What did we get from trump policy? Trillion dollar deficits.

It was at record lows? No. Wages were rising? No.

Much better under Trump. He is a much better president than BHO. If BHO was so strong, Clinton would have won as he said "she was the most qualified candidate in history"....people laughed out loud and voted for someone who never held political office.

You live in fantasy land. The little wage growth is from min wage increases. That isn’t trump policy. Trillion dollar deficits are trump policy,

Trillion dollar deficits are due to entitlements. No President can cure that without attacking them or jacking up tax rates by 50%.

What new entitlements we have with trump? Didn’t realize we got a bunch of new ones that drastically increased deficits. Please share.

Not new. Never said new. You're making stuff up now. I know you're elderly but learn to read. We spend too much on SS, Medicare and Medicaid.

So there is no new ones but deficits went from $600 billion to over a trillion. Gee I guess it must be something else then. Like maybe hurting revenue with tax cuts and huge increase in military spending.

Duh. Our population is aging. 10,000 people turn 62 daily. Baby Boomers are old. Like you. We are also living longer.

Fact Sheet: Aging in the United States

The current growth of the population ages 65 and older, driven by the large baby boom generation—those born between 1946 and 1964—is unprecedented in U.S. history. This aging of the U.S. population has brought both challenges and opportunities to the economy, infrastructure, and institutions.

www.prb.org

And people are dying. Funny how deficits were so much lower till we got trump policy.

Not at the same rate as those moving to our entitlement programs. What would you do? Raise taxes? We have a spend problem not a revenue problem. So before Trump we didn't have deficits? Do you blame Congress at all? I agree with you that deficits suck.

How did Obama keep them lower? We probably should raise some taxes. I blame the whole government. But the huge increase is trump policy. He hurt revenue with tax cuts and increased military spending. Gdp didn’t increase and deficits did.

He spent a lot less on the military and there were fewer people on entitlements. Again, population is aging rapidly and eclipsing those dying. So you blame the House as well. Excellent. Is the House Democrat or Republican?

Most the damage was done when the government was all repub. Again the huge gains are clearly from the tax cuts hurting revenue and trumps huge increase in military spending. You are a number jockey, it’s easy math.

When was the most recent budget passed? Was the House Republican or Democrat? If we didn't lower corp tax rates we would have had more corporate inversions. What you're ignoring is the trade war. Let's see how that plays out.

The damage was done before the most recent. Funny how hard you try to dodge the real cause. We got nothing from the Corp tax cuts, they were a failure. Trade war is more failed trump policy. It hurt manufacturing, nothing more.

I disagree they were a failure. You cannot comprehend that we have an expense problem not a revenue problem. Show me our revenue before and after tax cuts.

Fiscal Year	Revenue
FY 2021	$3.86 (estimated)
FY 2020	$3.71 trillion (estimated)
FY 2019	$3.46 trillion (actual)
FY 2018	$3.33 trillion
FY 2017	$3.32 trillion
FY 2016	$3.27 trillion

So why isn't revenue lower?

U.S. Federal Government Tax Revenue

The federal government generates tax revenue through sources like income and corporate taxes. Learn how much tax revenue the U.S. generates each year.

www.thebalance.com

Lower than what? After the cuts it was the weakest growth on your list. We should have strong revenue growth during a good economy . The cuts hurt revenue clearly.

Revenues higher or lower?

The rate of growth much lower. Notice it’s the smallest increase. Revenue always goes up when not in recession. Trump drastically cut the rate of growth with his tax cuts. Stop playing games, any idiot can see trump policy increased deficits. You are like a child.

You just said lowering the taxes would lower revenue? So we lowered the corporate tax rate and revenue still went up? So we have an expense problem. Let me see. Do you agree that we have an expense problem? Yes or No?

You agreed the expense problem was the same under Obama, yet trump drastically increased deficits.

Because he spent more on the military, which also creates more jobs and innovation btw. OK, so we agree we have an expense problem and Trump has not addressed it in his first term. That we agree is bad. I hope he addresses it in his 2nd term.

Voila, we agree.

Yes trump has been awful for deficits and his policy has failed. Only a loser would vote for more failure.

So I should not exercise my right as an American and vote for the candidate I choose to vote for? Only a loser would vilify someone for exercising their right to vote.

Vote for more lies and failed policy if you want. I’m a real independent and don’t support failed policy.