Trump Leveraging Ukraine Military Aid For Dirt On Joe Biden

[IM2]

If it's illegal for Biden to do it's illegal for tRump to do as well, right?

Well seems Clinton and the Steele dossier was legal it even caused the FBI to go to the FISA Court.

The dossier is not why the warrants were issued. But Trump can tell you anything and you don't question.

Yes, it is why the warrens were issued.

Nope

It was the reason

Wrong.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

If the whistleblower story is true - Trump has committed the ultimate impeachable offense.

Abuse of power, if true.

Abuse of power is when your boyfriend uses an electric vibrator on you!

 

[IM2]

There's no evidence trump colluded with the Russians

Of course there us. Lots of it. What i think you meant to say is that we have no evidence of criminal conspiracy. Always happy to help.

Of course there us?

There is no evidence of collusion. Read the damn report! better yet, find a child to read it to you!

Maybe you read the report. They weren't looking for collusion and they were unable to get all the evidence necessary. It says that in the report.

 

[Zorro!]

Hunter Biden's "business dealings" with Ukrainian energy company Burisma in a recent New York Post op-ed details payments of more than $3 million to Hunter Biden's company during a 14-month period when his father was the point person on Ukraine policy for the Obama administration.

In the case of the Ukraine, the very energy company that was paying Hunter Biden millions of dollars was under investigation in the Ukraine for corruption. Ukrainian officials have informed us that Joe Biden pressured them to suspend or end that investigation, and that’s in fact what the Ukraine did, even firing the prosecutor after Biden placed a Billion Dollar Bounty on him, and gave them six hours to fire the prosecutor or lose the US Tax Payers billion dollar gift to Ukraine.

But, you claim Trump should be impeached, even though all he did was encourage the new administration to look into the Biden's obvious corruption, but Billion Dollar Bounty Biden should be our next US President?

... Trump should be impeached for trying to get dirt from a foreign government on a political opponent...

You mean like Hillary paying for the Dossier, to get dirt on Trump from Kremlin related sources and then concealing this from FISC so they could get illegal spying on Trump authorized?

... He was nor trying to get them into looking for Bidens corruption because it did not exist...

Then what are you so scared of?

But, is your claim true?

The New York Times reported this past May on Billion Dollar Bounty Biden’s intervention as Vice President in the Ukrainian prosecution in 2016. The elements of corruption were in place — the personal gain, the use of US power to achieve it, the threat that make Ukrainian national security the ransom in the deal and Biden Bragged that it worked:

Among those who had a stake in the outcome was Hunter Biden, Mr. Biden’s younger son, who at the time was on the board of an energy company owned by a Ukrainian oligarch who had been in the sights of the fired prosecutor general.​

Aaron Rupar

✔@atrupar
Here's @kenvogel of the New York Times saying on MSNBC that he views Joe Biden son's work in Ukraine as "a significant liability for Joe Biden."

"There is a story here," Vogel adds, saying "we're going to continue to, sort of, pull that back."



Billion Dollar Bounty Biden's Convoluted Answer:

Biden’s immediate response was no simple matter. His son Hunter Biden’s lucrative contracts with Ukraine — at the same time the vice president was in charge of U.S. policy toward the country raised — raised the prospect of fueling a narrative with downside political risk for Biden.
​

Ya think?

“This puts him on the ropes over having to talk about this,” said Patrick Murray, a pollster with Monmouth University. “He certainly doesn’t want to talk about this, his family.”​

Ukraine Corruption An Anchor Around Billion Dollar Bounty Biden's Neck in the General Election?

“During the primaries I don’t think Democrats would believe these charges concerning Biden because of how polarized the debate is right now, but then they could start worrying that this could hurt him if he is the nominee. It’s ‘can Biden fight back? Will this hurt his ability to take Trump on fully?’ And will it undermine that electability argument that he’s been making?”​

Was this what Billion Dollar Bounty Biden feared when his team leaked that he might not run at all because people would attack his corrupt family? At the time, the comment was a headscratcher. In retrospect, it looks much more like a serious attempt to lay the groundwork for an argument that any investigation into Biden’s official actions as VP on behalf of his son’s financial interests should be placed off limits.

 

[Lakhota]

Will Trump's bashing of Biden end up making Warren our next president in 2020? According to the latest Iowa poll - that could happen.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Well seems Clinton and the Steele dossier was legal it even caused the FBI to go to the FISA Court.

The dossier is not why the warrants were issued. But Trump can tell you anything and you don't question.

Yes, it is why the warrens were issued.

Nope

It was the reason

Wrong.

Mueller Report Likely to Renew Scrutiny of Steele Dossier

 

[IM2]

No one has experience in the executive branch of our government, until they do the job.

Haha....so any fool is as good as any other. All the more reason to avoid classless and unethical nepotism. Thanks for the assist.

Look at what trump is doing to your brain.

What foreign policy experience did Obama have and liberals elected him President? The man was a noob in every facet of the job. He was an instructor in Constitutional Law and repeatedly had his ass handed to him even by the liberal wing of SCOTUS! Shouldn't he at least know something about that?

Obama was a great president. You talk crazy about him for obvious reasons.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Biden openly admits that he forced the firing of the prosecutor that was investigating his son and leveraged $1B in US aid to get him fired.
Biden claims that he and Obama acted in concert.

...Biden, to use a billion dollars of loan guarantees as leverage to get Ukraine to replace Shokin...

Yup!

LOL

Great... now prove he did so to halt the investigation into Burisma Holdings, which news is reporting was a dormant investigation.

He bragged about leveraging Ukraine with a $B taxpayer money to fire the prosecutor. If Ukraine wants to look into it, they will. If a US attorney wants to look into it, they will.

Running for President doesn't give him immunity from prosecution, you know.

To fire a prosecutor who was corrupt and not allowing the investigation to go anywhere.

You think that was Biden's big concern? He wanted to fire the prosecutor who was not allowing his son to be sent to prison in the Ukraine? That was his goal?

My God, the lack of logical thought you have there!

Then again, maybe he thought that some prison time might allow him to kick his coke addiction!

 

[IM2]

The dossier is not why the warrants were issued. But Trump can tell you anything and you don't question.

Yes, it is why the warrens were issued.

Nope

It was the reason

Wrong.

Mueller Report Likely to Renew Scrutiny of Steele Dossier

So? The dossier is not why the warrants were issued.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Yup!

LOL

Great... now prove he did so to halt the investigation into Burisma Holdings, which news is reporting was a dormant investigation.

He bragged about leveraging Ukraine with a $B taxpayer money to fire the prosecutor. If Ukraine wants to look into it, they will. If a US attorney wants to look into it, they will.

Running for President doesn't give him immunity from prosecution, you know.

To fire a prosecutor who was corrupt and not allowing the investigation to go anywhere.

Except for the fact that he was investigating Biden's son for corruption, why was that a matter for us to compel Ukraine through blackmail, rather than Ukraine to work out on their own as they saw fit?

You mean except he wasn't investigating Biden's son. Not only was Hunter Biden not under investigation, Zlochevskyi and Burisma Holdings were, Biden was but one member on their board of directors; but even they weren't being investigated because the corrupt prosecutor general wasn't letting the investigation proceed....

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

But what has received less attention is that at the time Biden made his ultimatum, the probe into the company -- Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky -- had been long dormant, according to the former official, Vitaliy Kasko.

“There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” Kasko said in an interview last week. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015.”​

So Biden lied when said he threatened the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor?

Was he lying then or is he lying now? One has to be true!

 

[IM2]

...Biden, to use a billion dollars of loan guarantees as leverage to get Ukraine to replace Shokin...

Yup!

LOL

Great... now prove he did so to halt the investigation into Burisma Holdings, which news is reporting was a dormant investigation.

He bragged about leveraging Ukraine with a $B taxpayer money to fire the prosecutor. If Ukraine wants to look into it, they will. If a US attorney wants to look into it, they will.

Running for President doesn't give him immunity from prosecution, you know.

To fire a prosecutor who was corrupt and not allowing the investigation to go anywhere.

You think that was Biden's big concern? He wanted to fire the prosecutor who was not allowing his son to be sent to prison in the Ukraine? That was his goal?

My God, the lack of logical thought you have there!

Then again, maybe he thought that some prison time might allow him to kick his coke addiction!

The Ukrainian Rada Wanted Shokin Removed

The Rada=The Central Council of Ukraine was the All-Ukrainian council that united the political, public, cultural and professional organizations of the Ukrainian People's Republic.

Joe Biden was not a member of the Ukrainian Rada

Viktor Shokin had much bigger issues than the corruption case against Mykola Zlochevsky. Almost immediately after he was appointed, he started to cause almost irreparable harm to Ukraine’s legal system.

For starters, he failed to prosecute any prominent members of the Yanukovych regime or anybody in the current government. He constantly blocked reform to Ukraine’s broken legal system. He was in charge of implementing the 2014 law on prosecution which the European Union had asked Ukraine to do for years.

The law aimed to reduce to role of prosecutors who “were absurdly superior to judges in the Soviet legal system that persisted in post-Soviet Ukraine” according to Atlantic Council. It also called for a reevaluation of all prosecutors in order to weed out the more corrupt and incompetent ones. Shokin manipulated the process so that the old system mostly remained the same and minimal, ineffective changes were implemented.

He was the largest obstacle to judicial reform in Ukraine. It wasn’t just Joe Biden calling for his ouster, it was the United States government and the European Union.

 

[IM2]

LOL

Great... now prove he did so to halt the investigation into Burisma Holdings, which news is reporting was a dormant investigation.

He bragged about leveraging Ukraine with a $B taxpayer money to fire the prosecutor. If Ukraine wants to look into it, they will. If a US attorney wants to look into it, they will.

Running for President doesn't give him immunity from prosecution, you know.

To fire a prosecutor who was corrupt and not allowing the investigation to go anywhere.

Except for the fact that he was investigating Biden's son for corruption, why was that a matter for us to compel Ukraine through blackmail, rather than Ukraine to work out on their own as they saw fit?

You mean except he wasn't investigating Biden's son. Not only was Hunter Biden not under investigation, Zlochevskyi and Burisma Holdings were, Biden was but one member on their board of directors; but even they weren't being investigated because the corrupt prosecutor general wasn't letting the investigation proceed....

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

But what has received less attention is that at the time Biden made his ultimatum, the probe into the company -- Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky -- had been long dormant, according to the former official, Vitaliy Kasko.

“There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky,” Kasko said in an interview last week. “It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015.”​

So Biden lied when said he threatened the Ukraine to fire the prosecutor?

Was he lying then or is he lying now? One has to be true!

Biden could not pressure the Ukrainian government to do shit. He was vice president and was only acting as a representative for the president.

I'm going to keep repeating this.

The Ukrainian Rada Wanted Shokin Removed

The Rada=The Central Council of Ukraine was the All-Ukrainian council that united the political, public, cultural and professional organizations of the Ukrainian People's Republic.

Joe Biden was not a member of the Ukrainian Rada

Viktor Shokin had much bigger issues than the corruption case against Mykola Zlochevsky. Almost immediately after he was appointed, he started to cause almost irreparable harm to Ukraine’s legal system.

For starters, he failed to prosecute any prominent members of the Yanukovych regime or anybody in the current government. He constantly blocked reform to Ukraine’s broken legal system. He was in charge of implementing the 2014 law on prosecution which the European Union had asked Ukraine to do for years.

The law aimed to reduce to role of prosecutors who “were absurdly superior to judges in the Soviet legal system that persisted in post-Soviet Ukraine” according to Atlantic Council. It also called for a reevaluation of all prosecutors in order to weed out the more corrupt and incompetent ones. Shokin manipulated the process so that the old system mostly remained the same and minimal, ineffective changes were implemented.

He was the largest obstacle to judicial reform in Ukraine. It wasn’t just Joe Biden calling for his ouster, it was the United States government and the European Union.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Biden violated the Emoluments Clause

Oh? What did Biden receive?

Biden's son Hunter did.

 

[bripat9643]

Biden violated the Emoluments Clause

Oh? What did Biden receive?

His son received an $80K/mo no-show job.

That's not a violation of the emoluments clause, ya fucking moron. As a private citizen, Hunter Biden was allowed to earn as much as he could demand.

It's a violation of the bribery law, you fucking moron. he's not allowed to receive gifts because foreign governments wants a favor from his father.

 

[Zorro!]

An extended discussion about his son’s business dealings isn’t helpful to Biden’s electability argument.

For months, Biden has sidestepped questions about his son’s business dealings, which were criticized when they were reported in 2015 by both The New York Times as well as Russia’s state-run Izvestia news service.

FASCINATING TIMELINE:

March 2014, Administration’s point-man on Ukraine is Biden who led the U.S. response to Russia annexing Crimea.

April 2014, Biden’s son, Hunter, was suddenly "appointed" to the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian natural gas company, despite lacking experience working in Ukraine or the energy sector. He received compensation of $50,000 a month!.

Burisma was wooing U.S. Democrats as it faced investigative scrutiny. The same month Hunter Biden joined Burisma, the U.K. government froze bank accounts that belonged to its owner, Mykola Zlochevsky, as part of a money laundering investigation.

Two years later, Joe Biden put up a US Taxpayer $BILLION BOUNTY and successfully pressured the Ukrainian government to remove its prosecutor general, Viktor Shokin. Shokin's office had open probes of Burisma and Zlochevsky. Shokin’s successor closed the investigations, but then reopened an investigation of Burisma last year.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Biden violated the Emoluments Clause

Oh? What did Biden receive?

His family received from the Ukrianians and Biden is suddenly worth millions.

Dot dot dot all connected

Not because of anything Joe Biden did.

How do you know? It hasn't been investigated according to you!

 

[easyt65]

So a Deep State anti-Trump Intel Agency hold-over who is just begging to be added to the US IG's list of conspirators recommended to the US AG for indictment leaks information he did not even hear 1st hand, bringing up the Biden-Ukraine Scandal 'center stage', so Nadler and Schiff can demonstrate Pavlov's experiment about how when a bell is rung a conditioned dog will begin to salivate / react as trained...and right on cue they attempt to use the Counter-Intelligence propaganda spin on Biden's scandal to keep Obama's failed coup attempt alive...

Bwuhahaha....

Now that the Ukraine President has come forward to defend President Trump and squash the latest anti-Trump false narrative, all that the whistle blower and seditious / treasonous leftist media have accomplished with this latest scheme is to make Biden the victim of 'friendly fire' by bringing up HIS old, almost-forgotten/ignored Ukraine scandal.

BOOMERANG!

LOL! Way to go, Democrats...you have the 'circular firing squad' still working overtime.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

Yes, it is why the warrens were issued.

Nope

It was the reason

Wrong.

Mueller Report Likely to Renew Scrutiny of Steele Dossier

So? The dossier is not why the warrants were issued.

Maybe you should read that source one more time.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And i bet you are a racist, science denying, religious fundamentalist.

There, now we know what we think of each other.

Who didn't see that confession of surrender coming?

Who didn't see your declaration of victory coming? If declarations of victory were actual victories, you would be a 12 star general by now.

Well you did take the road to surrender by declaring 'racist'
And as far as science goes it can be manipulated when those providing grants want a certain view to look better than the findings of experiments.

So he was right on one point! Go ahead and give him credit for that!

He was incorrect on all points

Nope. He pegged you as a racist! Props in my book!

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So a Deep State anti-Trump Intel Agency hold-over who is just begging to be added to the US IG's list of conspirators recommended to the US AG for indictment leaks information he did not even hear 1st hand, bringing up the Biden-Ukraine Scandal 'center stage', so Nadler and Schiff can demonstrate Pavlov's experiment about how when a bell is rung a conditioned dog will begin to salivate / react as trained...and right on cue they attempt to use the Counter-Intelligence propaganda spin on Biden's scandal to keep Obama's failed coup attempt alive...

Bwuhahaha....

Now that the Ukraine President has come forward to defend President Trump and squash the latest anti-Trump false narrative, all that the whistle blower and seditious / treasonous leftist media have accomplished with this latest scheme is to make Biden the victim of 'friendly fire' by bringing up HIS old, almost-forgotten/ignored Ukraine scandal.

BOOMERANG!

LOL! Way to go, Democrats...you have the 'circular firing squad' still working overtime.

2 and a half years of investigation and the key document causing the investigation leftist now are saying it wasn't the reason FISA warrants weren't issued. Can you believe that crap?