Trump Muslim Ban 2.0: Just as Un-Constitutional

[aris2chat]

If I was President Trump I would ignore any ruling that went against his VERY constitutional mandate to keep the country safe. Fuck the courts.

Unfortunately for Trump the Judiciary is a co-equal branch of the American government.

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

We already know at least a few fighters from ISIS have lied and entered the US through the refugee program. At least those who have been found out.

No doubt there are more yet to find

 

[Coyote]

If I was President Trump I would ignore any ruling that went against his VERY constitutional mandate to keep the country safe. Fuck the courts.

Unfortunately for Trump the Judiciary is a co-equal branch of the American government.

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

We already know at least a few fighters from ISIS have lied and entered the US through the refugee program. At least those who have been found out.

No doubt there are more yet to find

Which ones are those?

 

[jasonnfree]

If I was President Trump I would ignore any ruling that went against his VERY constitutional mandate to keep the country safe. Fuck the courts.

Unfortunately for Trump the Judiciary is a co-equal branch of the American government.

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

We already know at least a few fighters from ISIS have lied and entered the US through the refugee program. At least those who have been found out.

No doubt there are more yet to find

Yes, a likely possibility that even a small number of them could cause us great harm should be enough for Trump's action to be honored. The security of the nation should be what's important, not the desire of who wants to come here.

 

[pismoe]

doesn't matter if its 'isis' or islamic state . The problem is those that are believers and practice islam Coyote .

 

[Eloy]

Unfortunately for Trump the Judiciary is a co-equal branch of the American government.

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

We already know at least a few fighters from ISIS have lied and entered the US through the refugee program. At least those who have been found out.

No doubt there are more yet to find

Yes, a likely possibility that even a small number of them could cause us great harm should be enough for Trump's action to be honored. The security of the nation should be what's important, not the desire of who wants to come here.

You sound paranoid.

 

[aris2chat]

If I was President Trump I would ignore any ruling that went against his VERY constitutional mandate to keep the country safe. Fuck the courts.

Unfortunately for Trump the Judiciary is a co-equal branch of the American government.

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

No, the question is why do you want Trump to be above the law as determined in court.

The code of law was quite clear. The President can decide to exclude any group he deems might be a danger until he decides otherwise.

President wants some form of better vetting to keep more ISIS fighters out.

There has been too much of a threat because of poor malformation and lies.

President is fully within the law to ban any group he wants to for as long as he decides.

90 days is hardly a hardship when the safety of the US citizens might be at stake.

What of the attack that is not found and stopped before it can be carried out? What of other ISIS members that lied and were not yet discovered?

What if you might be the next victim or someone you care about?

 

[aris2chat]

Unfortunately for Trump the Judiciary is a co-equal branch of the American government.

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

We already know at least a few fighters from ISIS have lied and entered the US through the refugee program. At least those who have been found out.

No doubt there are more yet to find

Which ones are those?

Iraqi insurgent fighter allegedly lied about identity, got through ...
www.foxnews.com/us/.../lawmakers-probe-claim-doj-aided-iraqi-terror-suspect-days-bef...
3 days ago - Iraqi insurgent fighter allegedly lied about identity, got through 'extreme' vetting ... The suspect is an Iraqi man who had entered the U.S.under a false name. His real ... In the case of terrorists in Iraq, ISIS has taken over whole cities, raising the ... matched ones found on IEDs used in Iraq to kill U.S. soldiers.
Iraqi refugee in U.S. discovered to be former insurgent fighter
dennismichaellynch.com/iraqi-refugee-u-s-discovered-former-insurgent-fighter/
2 days ago - Iraqi refugee in U.S. discovered to be former insurgent fighter... out how a former Iraqi insurgent fighter was able to lie about his identity and ... The man later entered the U.S. through the refugee program, and his ... ISIS has conquered entire cities in Iraq, raising the risk of identity theft and document forging.

 

[Eloy]

Unfortunately for Trump the Judiciary is a co-equal branch of the American government.

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

No, the question is why do you want Trump to be above the law as determined in court.

The code of law was quite clear. The President can decide to exclude any group he deems might be a danger until he decides otherwise.

President wants some form of better vetting to keep more ISIS fighters out.

There has been too much of a threat because of poor malformation and lies.

President is fully within the law to ban any group he wants to for as long as he decides.

90 days is hardly a hardship when the safety of the US citizens might be at stake.

What of the attack that is not found and stopped before it can be carried out? What of other ISIS members that lied and were not yet discovered?

What if you might be the next victim or someone you care about?

Trump's anti-Muslim executive order was found to be illegal by a federal court and his second try has brought our several more states to strike it down again.

 

[aris2chat]

American ISIS fighter who 'found it hard' returns to face criminal ...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/.../american-isis-fighter...found.../b6990ea2-efa5-11e5...
Jun 9, 2016 - Mohamad Khweis will be charged with material support of terrorism, U.S. officials say.

Iraqi officers find Islamic State members hidden among refugees ...
Reuters-Feb 28, 2017

Over Half of Recent Refugees Came from Countries Targeted by ...
National Review-Mar 3, 2017
Since then, the U.S. has accepted over 4,300 refugees, the majority of ... as they are more vulnerable to indoctrination, make able fighters and, in the ... If ISIS can recruit refugees heading to Europe, it is just as likely that they ...

Refugee EXPOSED as ISIS thug who 'killed prisoners by injecting ...
Daily Star-Feb 23, 2017
Refugee EXPOSED as ISIS thug who 'killed prisoners by injecting ... The Syrian repeatedly denied he was an Daesh fighter during the trial.

 

[Coyote]

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

We already know at least a few fighters from ISIS have lied and entered the US through the refugee program. At least those who have been found out.

No doubt there are more yet to find

Which ones are those?

Iraqi insurgent fighter allegedly lied about identity, got through ...
www.foxnews.com/us/.../lawmakers-probe-claim-doj-aided-iraqi-terror-suspect-days-bef...
3 days ago - Iraqi insurgent fighter allegedly lied about identity, got through 'extreme' vetting ... The suspect is an Iraqi man who had entered the U.S.under a false name. His real ... In the case of terrorists in Iraq, ISIS has taken over whole cities, raising the ... matched ones found on IEDs used in Iraq to kill U.S. soldiers.
Iraqi refugee in U.S. discovered to be former insurgent fighter
dennismichaellynch.com/iraqi-refugee-u-s-discovered-former-insurgent-fighter/
2 days ago - Iraqi refugee in U.S. discovered to be former insurgent fighter... out how a former Iraqi insurgent fighter was able to lie about his identity and ... The man later entered the U.S. through the refugee program, and his ... ISIS has conquered entire cities in Iraq, raising the risk of identity theft and document forging.

One person. Supposedly an Iraqi insurgent - very little information there and no names.

Nothing about being ISIS.

 

[aris2chat]

doesn't matter if its 'isis' or islamic state . The problem is those that are believers and practice islam Coyote .

No they are distorting Islam so they can abuse and kill without risking their belief in the gardens that will await them. I expect they will be sorry to find a different fate, or nothing at all.

They are blood thirst haters ready to kill as many people a they can.

 

[aris2chat]

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

No, the question is why do you want Trump to be above the law as determined in court.

The code of law was quite clear. The President can decide to exclude any group he deems might be a danger until he decides otherwise.

President wants some form of better vetting to keep more ISIS fighters out.

There has been too much of a threat because of poor malformation and lies.

President is fully within the law to ban any group he wants to for as long as he decides.

90 days is hardly a hardship when the safety of the US citizens might be at stake.

What of the attack that is not found and stopped before it can be carried out? What of other ISIS members that lied and were not yet discovered?

What if you might be the next victim or someone you care about?

Trump's anti-Muslim executive order was found to be illegal by a federal court and his second try has brought our several more states to strike it down again.

How is it a muslims ban when it is limited to 6 out of 50 muslims countries

If it was about muslims then all 50 would be included in the 90 day pause.

 

[Eloy]

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

No, the question is why do you want Trump to be above the law as determined in court.

The code of law was quite clear. The President can decide to exclude any group he deems might be a danger until he decides otherwise.

President wants some form of better vetting to keep more ISIS fighters out.

There has been too much of a threat because of poor malformation and lies.

President is fully within the law to ban any group he wants to for as long as he decides.

90 days is hardly a hardship when the safety of the US citizens might be at stake.

What of the attack that is not found and stopped before it can be carried out? What of other ISIS members that lied and were not yet discovered?

What if you might be the next victim or someone you care about?

Trump's anti-Muslim executive order was found to be illegal by a federal court and his second try has brought our several more states to strike it down again.

How is it a muslims ban when it is limited to 6 out of 50 muslims countries

If it was about muslims then all 50 would be included in the 90 day pause.

The Judiciary says differently.

 

[pismoe]

doesn't matter if its 'isis' or islamic state . The problem is those that are believers and practice islam Coyote .

No they are distorting Islam so they can abuse and kill without risking their belief in the gardens that will await them. I expect they will be sorry to find a different fate, or nothing at all.

They are blood thirst hates ready to kill as many people a they can.

---------------------------------------------------- i disagree with you Aris , my thinking and looking at islam tells me that they have been the same bloodthirsty religion from their founding and their first invasion of Spain at about 800 AD Aris !! Look what muslims , not necessarily isis are doing in Germany , France , sweden , san bernadino , orlando usa Aris .

 

[aris2chat]

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

No, the question is why do you want Trump to be above the law as determined in court.

The code of law was quite clear. The President can decide to exclude any group he deems might be a danger until he decides otherwise.

President wants some form of better vetting to keep more ISIS fighters out.

There has been too much of a threat because of poor malformation and lies.

President is fully within the law to ban any group he wants to for as long as he decides.

90 days is hardly a hardship when the safety of the US citizens might be at stake.

What of the attack that is not found and stopped before it can be carried out? What of other ISIS members that lied and were not yet discovered?

What if you might be the next victim or someone you care about?

Trump's anti-Muslim executive order was found to be illegal by a federal court and his second try has brought our several more states to strike it down again.

How is it a muslims ban when it is limited to 6 out of 50 muslims countries

If it was about muslims then all 50 would be included in the 90 day pause.

The Judiciary says differently.

A few lawyers and judges are making up their own rules and not following the law.

You worry abut the president that might act above the law but what of those judges that are ignoring the law and constitution to allow aliens that might be danger into the country?

They are acting above the law not for a real reason but because of what they wrongly believe Trump said before being elected, not because of any factual evidence. What of their abuse of the Laws?

They don't care of the law, just misusing the courts to try and discredit the president.

The US code give the president the right to ban or pause any aliens he wants to.

Why should aliens have a right to enter the US if they lie to get their visa or refugee status? Why shouldn't the US impose some stronger form of vetting or require those nations to be more forthcoming with information about each person that tries to enter?

Should you allow killers, criminals or insurgents into your home that want to do you harm? Shouldn't you have a say in who enters and who doesn't to your home where your family are sleeping?

Why shouldn't we as a country not be more discerning about who come in? To wait till we can get more correct information on those aliens?

 

[aris2chat]

doesn't matter if its 'isis' or islamic state . The problem is those that are believers and practice islam Coyote .

No they are distorting Islam so they can abuse and kill without risking their belief in the gardens that will await them. I expect they will be sorry to find a different fate, or nothing at all.

They are blood thirst hates ready to kill as many people a they can.

---------------------------------------------------- i disagree with you Aris , my thinking and looking at islam tells me that they have been the same bloodthirsty religion from their founding and their first invasion of Spain at about 800 AD Aris !! Look what muslims , not necessarily isis are doing in Germany , France , sweden , san bernadino , orlando usa Aris .

Just because they might have said they were muslims, does not mean they were actually following islam.

If a criminal said in the name of god when committing a crime, would you call them real christians? Or would they more likely be cult followers or practicing a corrupted faith that had little to do with the Bible?

If they picked only those verses about war in the name of god, like abraham or moses or david, and not the bible as a whole, would you call them real christians?

If some hateful conspiracy group picked up and cross when they wage war on civilians, would you blame all christians?

Just because their last words might god is great, does not mean they really understand god or his laws in the bible or the koran.

Just because Hitler acquired christian symbols and relics, would you blame all christians for their crimes? Would you blame all germans?

 

[Eloy]

No, the question is why do you want Trump to be above the law as determined in court.

The code of law was quite clear. The President can decide to exclude any group he deems might be a danger until he decides otherwise.

President wants some form of better vetting to keep more ISIS fighters out.

There has been too much of a threat because of poor malformation and lies.

President is fully within the law to ban any group he wants to for as long as he decides.

90 days is hardly a hardship when the safety of the US citizens might be at stake.

What of the attack that is not found and stopped before it can be carried out? What of other ISIS members that lied and were not yet discovered?

What if you might be the next victim or someone you care about?

Trump's anti-Muslim executive order was found to be illegal by a federal court and his second try has brought our several more states to strike it down again.

How is it a muslims ban when it is limited to 6 out of 50 muslims countries

If it was about muslims then all 50 would be included in the 90 day pause.

The Judiciary says differently.

A few lawyers and judges are making up their own rules and not following the law.

You worry abut the president that might act above the law but what of those judges that are ignoring the law and constitution to allow aliens that might be danger into the country?

They are acting above the law not for a real reason but because of what they wrongly believe Trump said before being elected, not because of any factual evidence. What of their abuse of the Laws?

They don't care of the law, just misusing the courts to try and discredit the president.

The US code give the president the right to ban or pause any aliens he wants to.

Why should aliens have a right to enter the US if they lie to get their visa or refugee status? Why shouldn't the US impose some stronger form of vetting or require those nations to be more forthcoming with information about each person that tries to enter?

Should you allow killers, criminals or insurgents into your home that want to do you harm? Shouldn't you have a say in who enters and who doesn't to your home where your family are sleeping?

Why shouldn't we as a country not be more discerning about who come in? To wait till we can get more correct information on those aliens?

When America violates the law, it ceases to be American.

 

[jasonnfree]

>>The Code of Laws of the United States of America is the official compilation and codification of the general and permanent federal statutes of the United States.<<

Judiciary is not there to "make" laws but to apply them and the constitution.

The president has the right to allow or exclude any aliens from entering the country.

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

We already know at least a few fighters from ISIS have lied and entered the US through the refugee program. At least those who have been found out.

No doubt there are more yet to find

Yes, a likely possibility that even a small number of them could cause us great harm should be enough for Trump's action to be honored. The security of the nation should be what's important, not the desire of who wants to come here.

You sound paranoid.

I figured that was coming, thanks for not disappointing me.

 

[pismoe]

A president is not above the law, not even Donald Trump.

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

No, the question is why do you want Trump to be above the law as determined in court.

The code of law was quite clear. The President can decide to exclude any group he deems might be a danger until he decides otherwise.

President wants some form of better vetting to keep more ISIS fighters out.

There has been too much of a threat because of poor malformation and lies.

President is fully within the law to ban any group he wants to for as long as he decides.

90 days is hardly a hardship when the safety of the US citizens might be at stake.

What of the attack that is not found and stopped before it can be carried out? What of other ISIS members that lied and were not yet discovered?

What if you might be the next victim or someone you care about?

Trump's anti-Muslim executive order was found to be illegal by a federal court and his second try has brought our several more states to strike it down again.

How is it a muslims ban when it is limited to 6 out of 50 muslims countries

If it was about muslims then all 50 would be included in the 90 day pause.

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doesn't matter if its 'isis' or islamic state . The problem is those that are believers and practice islam Coyote .

No they are distorting Islam so they can abuse and kill without risking their belief in the gardens that will await them. I expect they will be sorry to find a different fate, or nothing at all.

They are blood thirst hates ready to kill as many people a they can.

---------------------------------------------------- i disagree with you Aris , my thinking and looking at islam tells me that they have been the same bloodthirsty religion from their founding and their first invasion of Spain at about 800 AD Aris !! Look what muslims , not necessarily isis are doing in Germany , France , sweden , san bernadino , orlando usa Aris .

Just because they might have said they were muslims, does not mean they were actually following islam.

If a criminal said in the name of god when committing a crime, would you call them real christians? Or would they more likely be cult followers or practicing a corrupted faith that had little to do with the Bible?

If they picked only those verses about war in the name of god, like abraham or moses or david, and not the bible as a whole, would you call them real christians?

If some hateful conspiracy group picked up and cross when they wage war on civilians, would you blame all christians?

Just because their last words might god is great, does not mean they really understand god or his laws in the bible or the koran.

Just because Hitler acquired christian symbols and relics, would you blame all christians for their crimes? Would you blame all germans?

------------------------------------------------- i disagree with your line of reasoning Aris , islam has been murderous since its invention by mohamad .over 1400 hundred years ago Aris .

 

[jasonnfree]

The law in fact gives the President the right to say who is allowed into the country.
Trump used that law to make the country safer.
The question is: " Why do you want ISIS running wild in the streets of America?"

No, the question is why do you want Trump to be above the law as determined in court.

The code of law was quite clear. The President can decide to exclude any group he deems might be a danger until he decides otherwise.

President wants some form of better vetting to keep more ISIS fighters out.

There has been too much of a threat because of poor malformation and lies.

President is fully within the law to ban any group he wants to for as long as he decides.

90 days is hardly a hardship when the safety of the US citizens might be at stake.

What of the attack that is not found and stopped before it can be carried out? What of other ISIS members that lied and were not yet discovered?

What if you might be the next victim or someone you care about?

Trump's anti-Muslim executive order was found to be illegal by a federal court and his second try has brought our several more states to strike it down again.

How is it a muslims ban when it is limited to 6 out of 50 muslims countries

If it was about muslims then all 50 would be included in the 90 day pause.

The Judiciary says differently.

Judiciary's confused. They think that people have a right to come here because this is America. They're wrong. Besides the safety issue, there's the cost. There are too many Americans, including veterans in need, and not enough money to help them as it is, without bringing more of the world's needy here. Ever notice, the refugees are never located near the clintons or pelosis or obamas or....? Let them lead by example and take some of the refugees in. Not gonna happen.