Trump Now Considering Privatizing A Giant Part Of The VA

[regent]

In any case I suspect VA care will be sharply reduced and be filled with red tape. Well vets have had it for this long,

 

[OKTexas]

Before Trump has even made a decision on who will head the agency, he has been talking to executives in the healthcare profiteering industry about privatizing a huge swath of the Veterans Health Administration (VHA). In a meeting last Wednesday he met with a number of executives from the healthcare sector including a front runner for the VA Secretary post, Toby Cosgrove the Cleveland Clinic CEO.

Only so many dollars can be budgeted for veterans care to the VHA and if it becomes split between the VHA and multiple private vendors as in the Trump "plan", who will end up getting the shaft? The vets first, you can bet! That is a perfect plan to squeeze the VHA reducing services for vets at VA Medical centers and their satellite clinics. But that's only the tip of the iceberg of issues which could come down the road. Imagine the huge expansion in just billing and collections from all these private outfits and those added costs. And the beat goes on!

For those who are unaware of this, the DVA is a cabinet level department of the Executive branch. If Trump's ill advised "idea" comes to fruition, it would be tantamount to the first step in corporatizing that branch. How about Lockheed Martin taking over DoD and Goldman Sachs heading Treasury??

Article here;
Trump considering plans for privatizing VA medical options

What a crock of shit, Trump is looking at personalizing the VA to best server our Vets. These private outfits, as they put it, already have billing a collection departments that deal with medicare, medicade and private insurance companies. They also already deal with the VA on emergencies, so no huge expansion would be required.

The only huge expansion I'm seeing is all the commie bullshit coming from you regressives.

You've already shown the extent of your knowledge of the VA on another thread, Tex. It's time to stifle the ignorance and the stupid now! Still all fucking hat and no cattle!

What are you, a priority 6 or 7 patient? I'm a priority 1, I've been dealing with the VA for 16 years for ALL my health care. My experience has been the opposite of yours in every respect. I think that is more telling of your incompetence than it is of the VAs.

 

[Moonglow]

Good idea,the VA needs a complete overhaul and adding private competition for health care is a good start, maybe Trump isn't such a clueless, douche bag after all.

It's already being done, so you'll have to stick your nose up Trump's ass for some other reason..

Really so when did that happen because I see the same shit I've seen for the last 14 years since I got out.?

you never received a Veteran's Choice card and instructions on how it works?. I've been going to VA since 2006..before that period I had private insurance since Reagan took away medical benefits and GI Bill..

 

[Moonglow]

Before Trump has even made a decision on who will head the agency, he has been talking to executives in the healthcare profiteering industry about privatizing a huge swath of the Veterans Health Administration (VHA). In a meeting last Wednesday he met with a number of executives from the healthcare sector including a front runner for the VA Secretary post, Toby Cosgrove the Cleveland Clinic CEO.

Only so many dollars can be budgeted for veterans care to the VHA and if it becomes split between the VHA and multiple private vendors as in the Trump "plan", who will end up getting the shaft? The vets first, you can bet! That is a perfect plan to squeeze the VHA reducing services for vets at VA Medical centers and their satellite clinics. But that's only the tip of the iceberg of issues which could come down the road. Imagine the huge expansion in just billing and collections from all these private outfits and those added costs. And the beat goes on!

For those who are unaware of this, the DVA is a cabinet level department of the Executive branch. If Trump's ill advised "idea" comes to fruition, it would be tantamount to the first step in corporatizing that branch. How about Lockheed Martin taking over DoD and Goldman Sachs heading Treasury??

Article here;
Trump considering plans for privatizing VA medical options

What a crock of shit, Trump is looking at personalizing the VA to best server our Vets. These private outfits, as they put it, already have billing a collection departments that deal with medicare, medicade and private insurance companies. They also already deal with the VA on emergencies, so no huge expansion would be required.

The only huge expansion I'm seeing is all the commie bullshit coming from you regressives.

You've already shown the extent of your knowledge of the VA on another thread, Tex. It's time to stifle the ignorance and the stupid now! Still all fucking hat and no cattle!

What are you, a priority 6 or 7 patient? I'm a priority 1, I've been dealing with the VA for 16 years for ALL my health care. My experience has been the opposite of yours in every respect. I think that is more telling of your incompetence than it is of the VAs.

Believe it or not, all VA's are different in their own way, depends on admin and staff...

 

[Darkwind]

Lmao! Unleash the free market on the vets and it'll be cheaper and faster! Insurance companies care!!

Proof positive that you are a moron.

They won't be getting private insurance. They will utilize a private healthcare facility that will be reimbursed by the government. Tell Me, isn't that a lot like "Single Payer"?

 

[Flash]

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Senate runs the VA and the House funds it...The president is 3rd on oversight at the VA..In private care, you have screw ups and negligent deaths, no system is perfect....If not, they'd never need release forms or liability limitations with subsidized liability insurance welfare for doctors..

Maybe you forgot but the head of the VA is a Presidential appointee. The fucking idiot that you stupid Moon Bats elected is the one responsible for the management of the VA and the lazy affirmative action sonofabitch did a piss poor job of managing it properly just like he fucked up everything he touched in the last eight years.

Trump will fix the VA..

 

[regent]

At one time the VA was only intended to care for "service incurred" injuries and illness. Other vets could use the VA, as room was available, and I wonder if all that has now changed?

 

[Moonglow]

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Senate runs the VA and the House funds it...The president is 3rd on oversight at the VA..In private care, you have screw ups and negligent deaths, no system is perfect....If not, they'd never need release forms or liability limitations with subsidized liability insurance welfare for doctors..

Maybe you forgot but the head of the VA is a Presidential appointee. The fucking idiot that you stupid Moon Bats elected is the one responsible for the management of the VA and the lazy affirmative action sonofabitch did a piss poor job of managing it properly just like he fucked up everything he touched in the last eight years.

Trump will fix the VA..

I bet he does...and will direct McConnell or McCain to do it...

 

[Flash]

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Believe it or not, all VA's are different in their own way, depends on admin and staff...

Believe it or not that asshole Obama has done a poor job of managing the VA just like he has done a poor job at everything else.You Moon Bats were morons electing him.

 

[Moonglow]

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Believe it or not, all VA's are different in their own way, depends on admin and staff...

Believe it or not that asshole Obama has done a poor job of managing the VA just like he has done a poor job at everything else.You Moon Bats were morons electing him.

Well it's not like the head of state micro manages every department..So trump will not either....Ain't it a shame?

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

However, if anybody has other options I cannot understand why they would use the VA and deal with that ineffective non caring government bureaucracy.

For me it's high deductibles and copay for a civilian doctor. The VA takes my insurance and foregoes those payments. I also use a civilian doctor at times.

Quick story, I fought the VA for almost 2 years trying to get my bp down. Systolic was running 180-190 all the time. I went to the doctor that was doing my DOT physicals and he had it down to 120-125 consistently in less than 2 months. He had me on a meds cocktail that the VA couldn't/wouldn't(?) provide.

 

[Moonglow]

However, if anybody has other options I cannot understand why they would use the VA and deal with that ineffective non caring government bureaucracy.

For me it's high deductibles and copay for a civilian doctor. The VA takes my insurance and foregoes those payments. I also use a civilian doctor at times.

Quick story, I fought the VA for almost 2 years trying to get my bp down. Systolic was running 180-190 all the time. I went to the doctor that was doing my DOT physicals and he had it down to 120-125 consistently in less than 2 months. He had me on a meds cocktail that the VA couldn't/wouldn't(?) provide.

I got rid of my problem with high blood pressure, I kicked out my wife...

 

[kaz]

It's important to screw the vets so that Trump's cronies get more cash, you know. Priorities, people.

Yeah, you're so pro military when you knee jerk believe every enemy accusation against them. Get your own house in order before pointing fingers

 

[Flash]

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What a crock of shit, Trump is looking at personalizing the VA to best server our Vets. These private outfits, as they put it, already have billing a collection departments that deal with medicare, medicade and private insurance companies. They also already deal with the VA on emergencies, so no huge expansion would be required.

The only huge expansion I'm seeing is all the commie bullshit coming from you regressives.

These Libtards will do everything possible to keep the VA as a bloated government health care provider because in their convoluted sick minds is becomes a model for socialized medicine.

The system should be much more simple than it is now. A veteran should be issued a private insurance card for the level of treatment that he/she needs. The VA should only be a diagnostic center to ascertain the level of treatment needed and a clearing house and bill payer and it should be adequately staffed.

No different than having a private family care physician that you can get an immediate appointment, looks at you and then sends you to a specialist if needed. For veterans with significant service related problems we should just cut out the middle man when they get released from the military system and issue them a Tri Care type insurance card so they never even have to deal with the VA again.

The only VA hospitals that we should have are the ones to treat immediately battle wounded casualties until they can be released to private care facilities.

Our country owes our veterans good medical care. They earned it and the current VA bureaucratic system falls short of providing that care. The government always screws up everything.

 

[g5000]

How about Lockheed Martin taking over DoD and Goldman Sachs heading Treasury??

I was under the impression they already did.

 

[Flash]

However, if anybody has other options I cannot understand why they would use the VA and deal with that ineffective non caring government bureaucracy.

For me it's high deductibles and copay for a civilian doctor. The VA takes my insurance and foregoes those payments. I also use a civilian doctor at times.

Quick story, I fought the VA for almost 2 years trying to get my bp down. Systolic was running 180-190 all the time. I went to the doctor that was doing my DOT physicals and he had it down to 120-125 consistently in less than 2 months. He had me on a meds cocktail that the VA couldn't/wouldn't(?) provide.

I understand and I feel for my veteran brothers that have to use the VA because they have limited options.

This country owes you better than what you are getting.

 

[ThoughtCrimes]

How about Lockheed Martin taking over DoD and Goldman Sachs heading Treasury??

I was under the impression they already did.

Well, you know...didn't want to be too freakin' definitive!

 

[Siete]

I would make it damn simple for vets to get medical care.

Walk in ANY hospital,clinic, or dental facility anywhere in the country, show their Veterans ID card, and get FREE TREATMENT ... NO QUESTIONS ASKED !!!!!

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

At one time the VA was only intended to care for "service incurred" injuries and illness. Other vets could use the VA, as room was available, and I wonder if all that has now changed?

As bad as I hate to admit it, Bill Clinton opened the VA up for all vets. IIRC, it was around the time they were pushing for Hillarycare.

 

[Derelict_Drvr]

I got rid of my problem with high blood pressure, I kicked out my wife...

You and me both...