Trump On Woodward Tape Admitting To Lying About Seriousness Of Coronavirus

[bigrebnc1775]

wheres the proof it happened,,thats proof its a lie,,

It comes down to credibility. Trump said he never said it. The person who says he said it disagrees. Trump has a history of lying and telling mistruths. It's not hard to believe who has more credibility.

the queen needs one of her subjects to whipe her ass go my son do a good job for your queen

 

[Aldo Raine]

As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?

why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???

Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?

All that Make America Great stuff is so hateful to Dimsocialist lemmings.

All that suckers and losers to dead soldiers certainly is! But we know it is just oh so MAGA to you fools.

MAGA

Feel free to bring those quotes from his rallies.

Watch this dodge......................

Does it matter when he said them? Watch this dodge does calling America's war dead suckers and losers " Make America Great Again?

thats been proven a lie,,,

No it really hasn't, just because tRump says it's a lie means it is spot on.

MAGA

then why hasnt anyone that heard it come forward with proof???

oh thats right because it was made up,,,

Ewe said it was proven ti be a lie, prove it.

I did,,,

ROTFLMFAO, of course in that tiny mind of yours you did...to you and you alone.

tRump said he loves the poorly educated, he found ya!!!!!

MAGA

I didnt vote for him,,,

I would not admit to that act of stupidity either.

MAGA

As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?

why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???

Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?

All that Make America Great stuff is so hateful to Dimsocialist lemmings.

All that suckers and losers to dead soldiers certainly is! But we know it is just oh so MAGA to you fools.

MAGA

Feel free to bring those quotes from his rallies.

Watch this dodge......................

Does it matter when he said them? Watch this dodge does calling America's war dead suckers and losers " Make America Great Again?

thats been proven a lie,,,

No it really hasn't, just because tRump says it's a lie means it is spot on.

MAGA

then why hasnt anyone that heard it come forward with proof???

oh thats right because it was made up,,,

Ewe said it was proven ti be a lie, prove it.

I did,,,

ROTFLMFAO, of course in that tiny mind of yours you did...to you and you alone.

tRump said he loves the poorly educated, he found ya!!!!!

MAGA

I didnt vote for him,,,

ROTFLMFAO

I would not admit to that act of stupidity either.

MAGA

 

[bigrebnc1775]

wheres the proof it happened,,thats proof its a lie,,

It comes down to credibility. Trump said he never said it. The person who says he said it disagrees. Trump has a history of lying and telling mistruths. It's not hard to believe who has more credibility.

and every other person that was there said he didnt,,,

and who is this person that said he did??? whats their name??

there is no name because it never happened

 

[colfax_m]

So you're saying herd immunity works. But doesn't address the cause of death

When the lethality of the virus is 0.02% you can achieve herd immunity.
The lethality of the coronavirus was 100 times higher. At those levels achieving herd immunity means the death of millions, and not thousands.

So it's a matter of how many people you're willing to sacrafice, and how many are too many.

If you're willing to lose 25 million Americans, then go for herd immunity.

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

This is of course nonsense. The idea that people just so happen to die at the same time as having COVID in unrelated events is so overblown. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but the idea that it is anywhere near statistically significant is not supported by any actual data. Furthermore, it is counterbalanced by the undercounting since a number of people died of COVID out of hospital without testing.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?

why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???

Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?

All that Make America Great stuff is so hateful to Dimsocialist lemmings.

All that suckers and losers to dead soldiers certainly is! But we know it is just oh so MAGA to you fools.

MAGA

Feel free to bring those quotes from his rallies.

Watch this dodge......................

Does it matter when he said them? Watch this dodge does calling America's war dead suckers and losers " Make America Great Again?

thats been proven a lie,,,

No it really hasn't, just because tRump says it's a lie means it is spot on.

MAGA

then why hasnt anyone that heard it come forward with proof???

oh thats right because it was made up,,,

Ewe said it was proven ti be a lie, prove it.

I did,,,

ROTFLMFAO, of course in that tiny mind of yours you did...to you and you alone.

tRump said he loves the poorly educated, he found ya!!!!!

MAGA

I didnt vote for him,,,

I would not admit to that act of stupidity either.

MAGA

As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?

why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???

Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?

All that Make America Great stuff is so hateful to Dimsocialist lemmings.

All that suckers and losers to dead soldiers certainly is! But we know it is just oh so MAGA to you fools.

MAGA

Feel free to bring those quotes from his rallies.

Watch this dodge......................

Does it matter when he said them? Watch this dodge does calling America's war dead suckers and losers " Make America Great Again?

thats been proven a lie,,,

No it really hasn't, just because tRump says it's a lie means it is spot on.

MAGA

then why hasnt anyone that heard it come forward with proof???

oh thats right because it was made up,,,

Ewe said it was proven ti be a lie, prove it.

I did,,,

ROTFLMFAO, of course in that tiny mind of yours you did...to you and you alone.

tRump said he loves the poorly educated, he found ya!!!!!

MAGA

I didnt vote for him,,,

ROTFLMFAO

I would not admit to that act of stupidity either.

MAGA

you're being stupid is not an act it's a way of life for you.

 

[Aldo Raine]

As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?

why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???

Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?

All that Make America Great stuff is so hateful to Dimsocialist lemmings.

All that suckers and losers to dead soldiers certainly is! But we know it is just oh so MAGA to you fools.

MAGA

Feel free to bring those quotes from his rallies.

Watch this dodge......................

Does it matter when he said them? Watch this dodge does calling America's war dead suckers and losers " Make America Great Again?

thats been proven a lie,,,

No it really hasn't, just because tRump says it's a lie means it is spot on.

MAGA

then why hasnt anyone that heard it come forward with proof???

oh thats right because it was made up,,,

Ewe said it was proven ti be a lie, prove it.

I did,,,

ROTFLMFAO, of course in that tiny mind of yours you did...to you and you alone.

tRump said he loves the poorly educated, he found ya!!!!!

MAGA

obama says he loves liars you are needed go spread those Biden lies lol

BBBBBBUUUUUTTTT OBAMA!

YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!

MAGA

 

[Nostra]

As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?

why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???

Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?

All that Make America Great stuff is so hateful to Dimsocialist lemmings.

All that suckers and losers to dead soldiers certainly is! But we know it is just oh so MAGA to you fools.

MAGA

Feel free to bring those quotes from his rallies.

Watch this dodge......................

Does it matter when he said them? Watch this dodge does calling America's war dead suckers and losers " Make America Great Again?

Hmmmm...the claim was he did it at his rallies.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So you're saying herd immunity works. But doesn't address the cause of death

When the lethality of the virus is 0.02% you can achieve herd immunity.
The lethality of the coronavirus was 100 times higher. At those levels achieving herd immunity means the death of millions, and not thousands.

So it's a matter of how many people you're willing to sacrafice, and how many are too many.

If you're willing to lose 25 million Americans, then go for herd immunity.

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

This is of course nonsense. The idea that people just so happen to die at the same time as having COVID in unrelated events is so overblown. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but the idea that it is anywhere near statistically significant is not supported by any actual data. Furthermore, it is counterbalanced by the undercounting since a number of people died of COVID out of hospital without testing.

No it's not nonsense when it's a fact. COVID 19 caused deaths are much lower than are reported.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

 

[AZrailwhale]

do you think the Bay of Pigs was a top secret operation?

Officially yes, but in actually no. By october 1960 the cat was out of the bag.

Despite efforts of the government to keep the invasion plans covert, it became common knowledge among Cuban exiles in Miami. Through Cuban intelligence, Castro learned of the guerilla training camps in Guatemala as early as October 1960, and the press reported widely on events as they unfolded

And it was OK to brief the democratic candidate, since the republican candidate (Nixon) came up with the plan, although during the presidential debates took a position of restraint against the invasion of Cuba, while Kennedy was in favor of it.

Bay of Pigs was top-secret years later it was declassified
Presidential Candidate Kennedy was advised on the operation
So you have been proven wrong
And Pelosi was briefed just as the President was briefed on COVID 19.

Bay of Pigs was an Eisenhower administration operation. As I understand it the original plan was for the expatriate forces to get a foot hold, then American troops and airpower would be "requested" which would then complete the "liberation" of Cuba. JFK changed the plan to remove the US Force part until it was established that he Cuban people rose up to support the expatriates. When that didn't happen, the US forces stayed home and the expatriates died or were emprisioned..

 

[bigrebnc1775]

As I have written Trump lied and people died. It is as clear as day now that he was lying the whole time he was downplaying Covid. The two-faced President was telling Woodward just how dangerous it was while telling the people it will magically disappear.

How many people died because of Trump's lies. 20,000..50.,000..120,000?

Trump's apologists will make fools of themselves once arguing that Trump did not say or mean what he obviously said and meant.

Just when you think Trump has hit bottom..he once again proves us wrong by reaching even greater depths of depravity.

He is responsible for the deaths and the dying from this virus, and the economy.

Trump is also responsible for your acne and the mole in your back yard.

Cut the stupid shit. The Chinese are responsible for the people dying. Of course Joe didn't need to try to help them by undercutting the President while he tried to deal with it.

Now Joe's advertising his Biden virus plan ... to do what Trump is doing now ...

Why can’t you guys ever hold Trump responsible for anything?

why do you attack him for everything he does???

he tried to keep the people calm,,,whats wrong about that???

Calm? Like he does at his hate rallies? Do you mean like that?

All that Make America Great stuff is so hateful to Dimsocialist lemmings.

All that suckers and losers to dead soldiers certainly is! But we know it is just oh so MAGA to you fools.

MAGA

Feel free to bring those quotes from his rallies.

Watch this dodge......................

Does it matter when he said them? Watch this dodge does calling America's war dead suckers and losers " Make America Great Again?

thats been proven a lie,,,

No it really hasn't, just because tRump says it's a lie means it is spot on.

MAGA

then why hasnt anyone that heard it come forward with proof???

oh thats right because it was made up,,,

Ewe said it was proven ti be a lie, prove it.

I did,,,

ROTFLMFAO, of course in that tiny mind of yours you did...to you and you alone.

tRump said he loves the poorly educated, he found ya!!!!!

MAGA

obama says he loves liars you are needed go spread those Biden lies lol

BBBBBBUUUUUTTTT OBAMA!

YOU JUST CAN'T MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!

MAGA

sorry chump but obama never went away he still injects himself into today's political situations
Deal with it

 

[colfax_m]

So you're saying herd immunity works. But doesn't address the cause of death

When the lethality of the virus is 0.02% you can achieve herd immunity.
The lethality of the coronavirus was 100 times higher. At those levels achieving herd immunity means the death of millions, and not thousands.

So it's a matter of how many people you're willing to sacrafice, and how many are too many.

If you're willing to lose 25 million Americans, then go for herd immunity.

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

This is of course nonsense. The idea that people just so happen to die at the same time as having COVID in unrelated events is so overblown. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but the idea that it is anywhere near statistically significant is not supported by any actual data. Furthermore, it is counterbalanced by the undercounting since a number of people died of COVID out of hospital without testing.

No it's not nonsense when it's a fact. COVID 19 caused deaths are much lower than are reported.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

There is no data to support it being “much lower”.

 

[meaner gene]

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

Is that like the way people die of shock, and organ failure, especially the heart and brain, and they blame the cause of death as a gunshot?

You know that nobody actually dies from having a huck of lead in them. They die from the complications from getting shot.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

do you think the Bay of Pigs was a top secret operation?

Officially yes, but in actually no. By october 1960 the cat was out of the bag.

Despite efforts of the government to keep the invasion plans covert, it became common knowledge among Cuban exiles in Miami. Through Cuban intelligence, Castro learned of the guerilla training camps in Guatemala as early as October 1960, and the press reported widely on events as they unfolded

And it was OK to brief the democratic candidate, since the republican candidate (Nixon) came up with the plan, although during the presidential debates took a position of restraint against the invasion of Cuba, while Kennedy was in favor of it.

Bay of Pigs was top-secret years later it was declassified
Presidential Candidate Kennedy was advised on the operation
So you have been proven wrong
And Pelosi was briefed just as the President was briefed on COVID 19.

Bay of Pigs was an Eisenhower administration operation. As I understand it the original plan was for the expatriate forces to get a foot hold, then American troops and airpower would be "requested" which would then complete the "liberation" of Cuba. JFK changed the plan to remove the US Force part until it was established that he Cuban people rose up to support the expatriates. When that didn't happen, the US forces stayed home and the expatriates died or were emprisioned..

the point I was making was that a presidential candidate was briefed on a top secret operation before he became president

 

[bigrebnc1775]

So you're saying herd immunity works. But doesn't address the cause of death

When the lethality of the virus is 0.02% you can achieve herd immunity.
The lethality of the coronavirus was 100 times higher. At those levels achieving herd immunity means the death of millions, and not thousands.

So it's a matter of how many people you're willing to sacrafice, and how many are too many.

If you're willing to lose 25 million Americans, then go for herd immunity.

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

This is of course nonsense. The idea that people just so happen to die at the same time as having COVID in unrelated events is so overblown. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but the idea that it is anywhere near statistically significant is not supported by any actual data. Furthermore, it is counterbalanced by the undercounting since a number of people died of COVID out of hospital without testing.

No it's not nonsense when it's a fact. COVID 19 caused deaths are much lower than are reported.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

There is no data to support it being “much lower”.

Medical examiners from Colorado to Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, where most of the deaths in that state occurred, medical examiners classify any death as a coronavirus death when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.


Such expansive definitions are not due to rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this. “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx recently noted.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

 

[colfax_m]

So you're saying herd immunity works. But doesn't address the cause of death

When the lethality of the virus is 0.02% you can achieve herd immunity.
The lethality of the coronavirus was 100 times higher. At those levels achieving herd immunity means the death of millions, and not thousands.

So it's a matter of how many people you're willing to sacrafice, and how many are too many.

If you're willing to lose 25 million Americans, then go for herd immunity.

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

This is of course nonsense. The idea that people just so happen to die at the same time as having COVID in unrelated events is so overblown. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but the idea that it is anywhere near statistically significant is not supported by any actual data. Furthermore, it is counterbalanced by the undercounting since a number of people died of COVID out of hospital without testing.

No it's not nonsense when it's a fact. COVID 19 caused deaths are much lower than are reported.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

There is no data to support it being “much lower”.

Medical examiners from Colorado to Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, where most of the deaths in that state occurred, medical examiners classify any death as a coronavirus death when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.


Such expansive definitions are not due to rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this. “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx recently noted.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

www.realclearpolitics.com

!

Great. Now where’s the data that this statistically relevant?

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

Is that like the way people die of shock, and organ failure, especially the heart and brain, and they blame the cause of death as a gunshot?

You know that nobody actually dies from having a huck of lead in them. They die from the complications from getting shot.

no it's like if you have cancer but stick a fork in a electrical socket and die they classify that has electrical shock death
With COVID 19 IF YOU TEST POSITIVE AND COMMIT SUICIDE THEY COUNT THAT AS COVID RELATED

 

[meaner gene]

the point I was making was that a presidential candidate was briefed on a top secret operation before he became president

Nixon knew about it. Castro knew about it. Who were they keeping it secret from?

It was a top secret that had already been let out of the bag, so of course they told Kennedy.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

Is that like the way people die of shock, and organ failure, especially the heart and brain, and they blame the cause of death as a gunshot?

You know that nobody actually dies from having a huck of lead in them. They die from the complications from getting shot.

no it's like if you have cancer but stick a fork in a electrical socket and die they classify that has electrical shock death
With COVID 19 IF YOU TEST POSITIVE AND COMMIT SUICIDE THEY COUNT THAT AS COVID RELATED

So you're saying herd immunity works. But doesn't address the cause of death

When the lethality of the virus is 0.02% you can achieve herd immunity.
The lethality of the coronavirus was 100 times higher. At those levels achieving herd immunity means the death of millions, and not thousands.

So it's a matter of how many people you're willing to sacrafice, and how many are too many.

If you're willing to lose 25 million Americans, then go for herd immunity.

No here you go with bullshit. COVID 19 caused deaths are not above 10,000 remember they count any death as covid related if you have the virus regardless if the virus was the reason for your death.

The CDC currently puts the number of confirmed deaths at about 100,000. But even the “best estimate” 0.26% fatality rate is a significant overestimate because of how the CDC is counting deaths. The actual rate is fairly close to a recent bad year for the seasonal flu. And though public health officials have been transparent about how they are counting coronavirus deaths, the implications for calculating the infection fatality rate are not appreciated.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

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This is of course nonsense. The idea that people just so happen to die at the same time as having COVID in unrelated events is so overblown. I’m not saying it’s never happened, but the idea that it is anywhere near statistically significant is not supported by any actual data. Furthermore, it is counterbalanced by the undercounting since a number of people died of COVID out of hospital without testing.

No it's not nonsense when it's a fact. COVID 19 caused deaths are much lower than are reported.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

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There is no data to support it being “much lower”.

Medical examiners from Colorado to Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, where most of the deaths in that state occurred, medical examiners classify any death as a coronavirus death when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.


Such expansive definitions are not due to rogue public health officials. The rules direct them to do this. “If someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19 death,” White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx recently noted.

U.S. COVID-19 Death Toll Is Inflated | RealClearPolitics

The latest Centers for Disease Control data show that the COVID-19 fatality rate is 0.26% -- four times higher than the worst rate for the seasonal flu over the past decade. That is dramatically...

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Great. Now where’s the data that this statistically relevant?

The data is being manipulated as was pointed out.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

the point I was making was that a presidential candidate was briefed on a top secret operation before he became president

Nixon knew about it. Castro knew about it. Who were they keeping it secret from?

It was a top secret that had already been let out of the bag, so of course they told Kennedy.

Since you weren't part of that discussion go back and read what brought it up

 

[meaner gene]

Medical examiners from Colorado to Michigan use the same definition. In Macomb and Oakland counties in Michigan, where most of the deaths in that state occurred, medical examiners classify any death as a coronavirus death when the postmortem test is positive. Even people who died in suicides and automobile accidents meet that definition.

Medical examiners only examine people who have an unknown or disputed cause of death. Someone who came in from an auto crash and died of his injuries would NOT be sent to the medical examiner.

Someone who got run over by a truck, would not be sent to the medical examiner.

Quincy is a busy man, they don't bother him unless they don't know the cause of death.