Trump orders federal departments, agencies to provide citizenship records: We will leave no stone un

I'll damn glad Trump is doing everything possible to marginalize the filthy Illegals. We should have been doing this decades ago but Republicans and Democrats have been too chickenshit to do the right thing.
 
Ignoring the reason they come is not trying to stop anything.

That's because there is no one reason why they come. Many of them come to drop babies, some on behalf of their radical government or religion. Then they go back home and raise those American babies to be radicals themselves. When they get of age, they can walk across our borders like any American undetected to do God knows what harm to us.

You don't even believe that.

He stated there is more than one reason they come. One could be as nefarious as them being radical another is that they want money...whether they have to work for it or get it for free. The problem with the left is they don't seem to understand that the US cannot possibly support every welfare or down and out person in the world. It is impossible. Most other civilized countries recognize this reality. The bleeding hearts in this country have no grasp of reality whatsoever.

The main reason people come here is for the jobs. When they take the jobs they don't get welfare.

You and others are the ones that want to ignore the main reason they come here.

The ones that come here legally do go on welfare. In fact half of the legal immigrants are on our welfare system, a good reason to stop legal immigration. But the other group that are here illegally get child support, still taxing our welfare system we all have to pay for.

If you want to talk about legal immigration that is another topic all together. That is not what we are discussing .
 
I suspect that deep down you are a nihilist at heart

The democrats in the house can pass bills finding the wall and increasing enforcement of laws against illegal aliens in the workplace

Bills that the senate would pass and trump would sign

If that was the case they could have done it when they held the House. They didn't. As I noted, neither party wants to address the corrupt businesses.
Trump never got his First Hundred Days

Even before he took the oath of office Deep State liars were calling him a traitor who colluded with the russians

That hoax froze many republicans in congress who should have funded the wall

Neither party has any desire to stop the low wage train.

Many of our politicians don't, that's why Trump won. We constituents on the other hand mostly support the wall and taking steps to slow down if not stop illegals from getting into this country.

On the Democrat side, their politicians support illegals and so do their constituents. That's the difference.

Ignoring the reason they come is not trying to stop anything.
Our side is not ignoring the reasons they come here

If the dems want to pass laws strengthening workplace enforcement they will get no resistance from trump or his supporters
 
Neither party has any desire to stop the low wage train.

Many of our politicians don't, that's why Trump won. We constituents on the other hand mostly support the wall and taking steps to slow down if not stop illegals from getting into this country.

On the Democrat side, their politicians support illegals and so do their constituents. That's the difference.

Ignoring the reason they come is not trying to stop anything.

That's because there is no one reason why they come. Many of them come to drop babies, some on behalf of their radical government or religion. Then they go back home and raise those American babies to be radicals themselves. When they get of age, they can walk across our borders like any American undetected to do God knows what harm to us.

You don't even believe that.

Of course I do. Why don't you? Look it up yourself. The term is called Birther Tourism, and there are dozens of articles on it.

Yeah, there are. From the Chinese. They dont want to come here to work like those we have been discussing.
 
stone unturned


GOD BLESS this President! :clap2:

God bless this president? He is God, you infidel!!!

President Trump, speaking at the White House on Thursday, announced that he would "immediately" issue an executive order to get an accurate count of non-citizens and citizens in the United States -- a measure Trump said would be "far more accurate" than relying on a citizenship question in the 2020 census.

The move would make use of "vast" federal databases and free up information sharing among all federal agencies concerning who they know is living in the country, Trump said.

"Today I'm here to say we are not backing down in our effort to determine the citizenship status of the United States population," the president told reporters in the Rose Garden, after slamming "far-left Democrats" seeking to "conceal the number of illegal aliens in our midst."



Trump, 'not backing down' in effort to count citizens amid census fight, announces executive order
 
If that was the case they could have done it when they held the House. They didn't. As I noted, neither party wants to address the corrupt businesses.
Trump never got his First Hundred Days

Even before he took the oath of office Deep State liars were calling him a traitor who colluded with the russians

That hoax froze many republicans in congress who should have funded the wall

Neither party has any desire to stop the low wage train.

Many of our politicians don't, that's why Trump won. We constituents on the other hand mostly support the wall and taking steps to slow down if not stop illegals from getting into this country.

On the Democrat side, their politicians support illegals and so do their constituents. That's the difference.

Ignoring the reason they come is not trying to stop anything.
Our side is not ignoring the reasons they come here

If the dems want to pass laws strengthening workplace enforcement they will get no resistance from trump or his supporters

Yes they will and just like now it won't get enforced. All the same the Senate can introduce the legislation. Trump can argue for it. There is a reason neither is happening.
 
Many of our politicians don't, that's why Trump won. We constituents on the other hand mostly support the wall and taking steps to slow down if not stop illegals from getting into this country.

On the Democrat side, their politicians support illegals and so do their constituents. That's the difference.

Ignoring the reason they come is not trying to stop anything.

That's because there is no one reason why they come. Many of them come to drop babies, some on behalf of their radical government or religion. Then they go back home and raise those American babies to be radicals themselves. When they get of age, they can walk across our borders like any American undetected to do God knows what harm to us.

You don't even believe that.

Of course I do. Why don't you? Look it up yourself. The term is called Birther Tourism, and there are dozens of articles on it.

Yeah, there are. From the Chinese. They dont want to come here to work like those we have been discussing.

What difference does that make? They still come here illegally. They still come here to do us harm in the future unlike the illegals that come here for work.

It's been proven over and over again that Trump is taking whatever steps he can to curb hiring illegals. We posted articles on why it's difficult to prove and prosecute those who do. You ignore everything because you have this fantasy in your head that we live under a government that can proclaim guilt on the spot and lock fellow Americans up who don't have the ability to determine legal status.
 
Ignoring the reason they come is not trying to stop anything.

That's because there is no one reason why they come. Many of them come to drop babies, some on behalf of their radical government or religion. Then they go back home and raise those American babies to be radicals themselves. When they get of age, they can walk across our borders like any American undetected to do God knows what harm to us.

You don't even believe that.

Of course I do. Why don't you? Look it up yourself. The term is called Birther Tourism, and there are dozens of articles on it.

Yeah, there are. From the Chinese. They dont want to come here to work like those we have been discussing.

What difference does that make? They still come here illegally. They still come here to do us harm in the future unlike the illegals that come here for work.

I try and discuss this like an adult but it generally does me no good........
 
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The main reason people come here is for the jobs. When they take the jobs they don't get welfare.

You and others are the ones that want to ignore the main reason they come here.

But you said that we are little better than slaves? Why would people flee the paradise they come from to be slaves?

You really haven't thought the story your masters have you tell through...
 
I try and discuss this like an adult but it generally does me no good........

That's because you don't respond to counter points and just toss out another unrelated talking points. It becomes highly obvious that you don't know the subject at all and are trying to bluff your way through with slogans from various Marxist sources.
 
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The main reason people come here is for the jobs. When they take the jobs they don't get welfare.

You and others are the ones that want to ignore the main reason they come here.

But you said that we are little better than slaves? Why would people flee the paradise they come from to be slaves?

You really haven't thought the story your masters have you tell through...

They come here because unfortunately our slave wages are still better than their slave wages. That is not the goal we should set.
 
I try and discuss this like an adult but it generally does me no good........

That's because you don't respond to counter points and just toss out another unrelated talking points. It becomes highly obvious that you don't know the subject at all and are trying to bluff your way through with slogans from various Marxist sources.

I may have refused to address something. I admit I quit reading when the lame insults start.
 
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The main reason people come here is for the jobs. When they take the jobs they don't get welfare.

You and others are the ones that want to ignore the main reason they come here.

But you said that we are little better than slaves? Why would people flee the paradise they come from to be slaves?

You really haven't thought the story your masters have you tell through...

They come here because unfortunately our slave wages are still better than their slave wages. That is not the goal we should set.

90% come from socialist countries, why are the places they come from not perfect? You said socialism is the answer to all things....
 
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I may have refused to address something. I admit I quit reading when the lame insults start.

Such as your ignorance of how monetary policy and the Federal Reserve work? When your talking points are refuted, you ignore the facts and toss out more talking points.

You're not the first Marxist I've encountered. There is no intellectual, moral, or philosophical foundation, so once surface slogans are dispelled, as they so easily are, the entire premise fails. Your masters know this, which is why you run from your own points once they are challenged.
 
That's because there is no one reason why they come. Many of them come to drop babies, some on behalf of their radical government or religion. Then they go back home and raise those American babies to be radicals themselves. When they get of age, they can walk across our borders like any American undetected to do God knows what harm to us.

You don't even believe that.

Of course I do. Why don't you? Look it up yourself. The term is called Birther Tourism, and there are dozens of articles on it.

Yeah, there are. From the Chinese. They dont want to come here to work like those we have been discussing.

What difference does that make? They still come here illegally. They still come here to do us harm in the future unlike the illegals that come here for work.

I try and discuss this like an adult but it generally does me no good........

I think I am very much discussing this with you like an adult. You make claims that I and others have posted evidence contrary to your beliefs, but in spite of that, keep making them.

You made claim that Trump is not doing enough to employers, and it was proven he's doing more than the last three Presidents combined.

You made the claim that illegals only come here for jobs, when it's not even possible for 20 million people to be working jobs illegally in this country.

You claim that Trump does nothing to the employers when caught, and I posted why that is from a legal standpoint, and the fact a US President does not prosecute people.

In spite of that, you keep repeating the same things over and over again instead of reading our links and getting answers to why things are the way they are when it comes to illegals.
 
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The main reason people come here is for the jobs. When they take the jobs they don't get welfare.

You and others are the ones that want to ignore the main reason they come here.

But you said that we are little better than slaves? Why would people flee the paradise they come from to be slaves?

You really haven't thought the story your masters have you tell through...

They come here because unfortunately our slave wages are still better than their slave wages. That is not the goal we should set.

90% come from socialist countries, why are the places they come from not perfect? You said socialism is the answer to all things....

We are Venezuela without the ability to just print money. That isn't going to last forever.
 
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I may have refused to address something. I admit I quit reading when the lame insults start.

Such as your ignorance of how monetary policy and the Federal Reserve work? When your talking points are refuted, you ignore the facts and toss out more talking points.

You never refuted anything I said. You only claim you do.

Your no the first Marxist I've encountered.

I need to learn to quit trying ......
 
You don't even believe that.

Of course I do. Why don't you? Look it up yourself. The term is called Birther Tourism, and there are dozens of articles on it.

Yeah, there are. From the Chinese. They dont want to come here to work like those we have been discussing.

What difference does that make? They still come here illegally. They still come here to do us harm in the future unlike the illegals that come here for work.

I try and discuss this like an adult but it generally does me no good........

I think I am very much discussing this with you like an adult. You make claims that I and others have posted evidence contrary to your beliefs, but in spite of that, keep making them.

You made claim that Trump is not doing enough to employers, and it was proven he's doing more than the last three Presidents combined.

The only thing presented was that he sent a letter to employers. Big deal. Nothing was followed up on.

made the claim that illegals only come here for jobs, when it's not even possible for 20 million people to be working jobs illegally in this country.

You claim that Trump does nothing to the employers when caught, and I posted why that is from a legal standpoint, and the fact a US President does not prosecute people.

In spite of that, you keep repeating the same things over and over again instead of reading our links and getting answers to why things are the way they are when it comes to illegals.

If you can't be honest I am wasting my time.
 
Of course I do. Why don't you? Look it up yourself. The term is called Birther Tourism, and there are dozens of articles on it.

Yeah, there are. From the Chinese. They dont want to come here to work like those we have been discussing.

What difference does that make? They still come here illegally. They still come here to do us harm in the future unlike the illegals that come here for work.

I try and discuss this like an adult but it generally does me no good........

I think I am very much discussing this with you like an adult. You make claims that I and others have posted evidence contrary to your beliefs, but in spite of that, keep making them.

You made claim that Trump is not doing enough to employers, and it was proven he's doing more than the last three Presidents combined.

The only thing presented was that he sent a letter to employers. Big deal. Nothing was followed up on.

made the claim that illegals only come here for jobs, when it's not even possible for 20 million people to be working jobs illegally in this country.

You claim that Trump does nothing to the employers when caught, and I posted why that is from a legal standpoint, and the fact a US President does not prosecute people.

In spite of that, you keep repeating the same things over and over again instead of reading our links and getting answers to why things are the way they are when it comes to illegals.

If you can't be honest I am wasting my time.

I am being honest. That's what upsets you the most.
 
Yeah, there are. From the Chinese. They dont want to come here to work like those we have been discussing.

What difference does that make? They still come here illegally. They still come here to do us harm in the future unlike the illegals that come here for work.

I try and discuss this like an adult but it generally does me no good........

I think I am very much discussing this with you like an adult. You make claims that I and others have posted evidence contrary to your beliefs, but in spite of that, keep making them.

You made claim that Trump is not doing enough to employers, and it was proven he's doing more than the last three Presidents combined.

The only thing presented was that he sent a letter to employers. Big deal. Nothing was followed up on.

made the claim that illegals only come here for jobs, when it's not even possible for 20 million people to be working jobs illegally in this country.

You claim that Trump does nothing to the employers when caught, and I posted why that is from a legal standpoint, and the fact a US President does not prosecute people.

In spite of that, you keep repeating the same things over and over again instead of reading our links and getting answers to why things are the way they are when it comes to illegals.

If you can't be honest I am wasting my time.

I am being honest. That's what upsets you the most.

I never said that the only reason they come is for jobs. I said the main reason was for jobs. You know what you did.
 

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