Trump: Police need to be thanked, not constantly derided

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At his Iowa speech he said people that criticize the police (like USMB's resident libertarian wannabes [you know who you are]) are basically retards who should be ashamed of themselves

Radio Donald Trump Campaign Rally Muscatine Iowa | Video | C-SPAN.org
JANUARY 25, 2016
Radio: Donald Trump Campaign Rally in Muscatine, Iowa

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump spoke at a campaign rally at Muscatine High School in Muscatine, Iowa. He talked about job creation, the national debt, and his support for the Keystone XL Pipeline, and he responded to some of the negative ads and criticisms of him from his Republican opponents.
 
He's right.

There is a difference is having an honest discussion regarding police....including criticizing some things....versus blanket smearing of cops and using phrases such as "oink oink bang bang" or roasting a pig with a cop hat on it.

The % of cops who end up in questionable shootings is statistically about 0.000005%.

So Trump is right.

We can and should discuss those 0.000005% as ISOLATED from the 99.999995% of other cops. Without burning cities preferably.
 
Police simply need to be held accountable like the rest of us would when they break the laws and when they abuse their positions of power. It's not really that hard. There is a reason why trust in law enforcement is at a 20 year low
 
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The militarization of police departments we have seen over the past couple of decades is objectionable in many cases and means, like the Arizonian who got shot dead in his own home due to being the target of a SWAT team who was given a wrong address. The SWAT team did a military style assault, yelling they were the police while the targeted family was asleep. This is justifiably criticized.

Police that routinely harass blacks for being in a white area are also wrong and need retraining. Unless a perp description says the perp was a black guy, blacks should not be profiled. And yet it still goes on.

Those are legit criticisms, and it would be productive for activists to target these policies, but not attacking the PDs across the nation as being 100% institutional racism.
 
Police simply need to be held accountable like the rest of us would when they break the laws and when they abuse their positions of power. It's not really that hard. There is a reason why trust in law enforcement is at a 20 year old.
That and the shifting of their primary duty from keeping the peace to being collecting revenue for municipalities via traffic tickets.
 
Police simply need to be held accountable like the rest of us would when they break the laws and when they abuse their positions of power. It's not really that hard. There is a reason why trust in law enforcement is at a 20 year old.

Trust in LE according to Gallup....is still 3rd highest of all American institutions being #1 Military and #2 "small business".

Your statement otherwise is correct. What "accountable" means is different among many of us. Cops should be treated like the rest of us....understanding that the rest of us aren't carrying a gun and being told to run into stressful dangerous situations.
 
The militarization of police departments we have seen over the past couple of decades is objectionable in many cases and means, like the Arizonian who got shot dead in his own home due to being the target of a SWAT team who was given a wrong address. The SWAT team did a military style assault, yelling they were the police while the targeted family was asleep. This is justifiably criticized.

Police that routinely harass blacks for being in a white area are also wrong and need retraining. Unless a perp description says the perp was a black guy, blacks should not be profiled. And yet it still goes on.

Those are legit criticisms, and it would be productive for activists to target these policies, but not attacking the PDs across the nation as being 100% institutional racism.

I'd agree with most of that....but the "militarization" thing is overblown. Some SWAT teams do get called for shit SWAT shouldn't be used for. That's something departments can and should correct.
 
At his Iowa speech he said people that criticize the police (like USMB's resident libertarian wannabes [you know who you are]) are basically retards who should be ashamed of themselves

Radio Donald Trump Campaign Rally Muscatine Iowa | Video | C-SPAN.org
JANUARY 25, 2016
Radio: Donald Trump Campaign Rally in Muscatine, Iowa

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump spoke at a campaign rally at Muscatine High School in Muscatine, Iowa. He talked about job creation, the national debt, and his support for the Keystone XL Pipeline, and he responded to some of the negative ads and criticisms of him from his Republican opponents.
According to Taser...that's just what Obama would say........yeah, sure.
 
Police simply need to be held accountable like the rest of us would when they break the laws and when they abuse their positions of power.
I second this. I however do think that those who do the job the way that it is supposed to be done should not be lumped in there with those who do not give a flying flip. To me, the fair cops are the ones who deserve the respect and appreciation.

God bless you always!!!

Holly
 
At his Iowa speech he said people that criticize the police (like USMB's resident libertarian wannabes [you know who you are]) are basically retards who should be ashamed of themselves

Radio Donald Trump Campaign Rally Muscatine Iowa | Video | C-SPAN.org
JANUARY 25, 2016
Radio: Donald Trump Campaign Rally in Muscatine, Iowa

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump spoke at a campaign rally at Muscatine High School in Muscatine, Iowa. He talked about job creation, the national debt, and his support for the Keystone XL Pipeline, and he responded to some of the negative ads and criticisms of him from his Republican opponents.

The Donald is correct.
 
Police simply need to be held accountable like the rest of us would when they break the laws and when they abuse their positions of power. It's not really that hard. There is a reason why trust in law enforcement is at a 20 year old.
That and the shifting of their primary duty from keeping the peace to being collecting revenue for municipalities via traffic tickets.
revenue enhancement has always been one of their primary duties jimcrowie1958
 
He's right.

There is a difference is having an honest discussion regarding police....including criticizing some things....versus blanket smearing of cops and using phrases such as "oink oink bang bang" or roasting a pig with a cop hat on it.

The % of cops who end up in questionable shootings is statistically about 0.000005%.

So Trump is right.

We can and should discuss those 0.000005% as ISOLATED from the 99.999995% of other cops. Without burning cities preferably.
And where do you get your stats from? According to the FBI director their is no stats on police misconduct. The violent crime control and law enforcement act passed by congress in 1994 was supposed to keep track of police misconduct. It had full bipartisan support. The act was never implemented as police unions began to unify and pass state laws prohibiting the data from being recorded. They only give information on a voluntary basis, which means only time video is taken that they do not control and it hits the media.

So since they control the data and do not relinquish it, nobody knows how bad or how far this problem is or even if there is a problem. The videos that have come to light have been troubling and it seems when the police control the video it takes years to release it if the officer looks bad, but if it is video that shows the officer in a good light the police release it within hours and video or information showing the perpetrator as being a law breaker even it has nothing to do wih the case at hand.

The solution would enforce the congressional act with an agency that is separate from the chain of command of the police. If police see a pattern of aggression within their ranks by certain officers, yet do not evaluate or suspend that officer before an incident happens, then they are culpable and negligent as officers.

My points are there are no stats because police each district keeps its own records and it is not release able to the public. so you cannot possibly know that they are all bad or all good. It gives the impression of corruption, with no oversight.
 
Police simply need to be held accountable like the rest of us would when they break the laws and when they abuse their positions of power. It's not really that hard. There is a reason why trust in law enforcement is at a 20 year old.
That and the shifting of their primary duty from keeping the peace to being collecting revenue for municipalities via traffic tickets.
revenue enhancement has always been one of their primary duties jimcrowie1958
Not to the same degree it is today. I am old enough to remember the Dallas Police Department protesting this expanded role when they did a ticket strike in the 1980s.

Cities should not rely on traffic fines as a primary revenue stream; it is going to dry up over the next couple of decades.
 
He's right.

There is a difference is having an honest discussion regarding police....including criticizing some things....versus blanket smearing of cops and using phrases such as "oink oink bang bang" or roasting a pig with a cop hat on it.

The % of cops who end up in questionable shootings is statistically about 0.000005%.

So Trump is right.

We can and should discuss those 0.000005% as ISOLATED from the 99.999995% of other cops. Without burning cities preferably.
And where do you get your stats from? According to the FBI director their is no stats on police misconduct. The violent crime control and law enforcement act passed by congress in 1994 was supposed to keep track of police misconduct. It had full bipartisan support. The act was never implemented as police unions began to unify and pass state laws prohibiting the data from being recorded. They only give information on a voluntary basis, which means only time video is taken that they do not control and it hits the media.

So since they control the data and do not relinquish it, nobody knows how bad or how far this problem is or even if there is a problem. The videos that have come to light have been troubling and it seems when the police control the video it takes years to release it if the officer looks bad, but if it is video that shows the officer in a good light the police release it within hours and video or information showing the perpetrator as being a law breaker even it has nothing to do wih the case at hand.

The solution would enforce the congressional act with an agency that is separate from the chain of command of the police. If police see a pattern of aggression within their ranks by certain officers, yet do not evaluate or suspend that officer before an incident happens, then they are culpable and negligent as officers.

My points are there are no stats because police each district keeps its own records and it is not release able to the public. so you cannot possibly know that they are all bad or all good. It gives the impression of corruption, with no oversight.

Each department has an internal affairs department that tracks their own stats independently, dude.
 
Police simply need to be held accountable like the rest of us would when they break the laws and when they abuse their positions of power. It's not really that hard. There is a reason why trust in law enforcement is at a 20 year old.
That and the shifting of their primary duty from keeping the peace to being collecting revenue for municipalities via traffic tickets.
revenue enhancement has always been one of their primary duties jimcrowie1958
Not to the same degree it is today. I am old enough to remember the Dallas Police Department protesting this expanded role when they did a ticket strike in the 1980s.

Cities should not rely on traffic fines as a primary revenue stream; it is going to dry up over the next couple of decades.
people get "fined' because they "break the law".
 
He's right.

There is a difference is having an honest discussion regarding police....including criticizing some things....versus blanket smearing of cops and using phrases such as "oink oink bang bang" or roasting a pig with a cop hat on it.

The % of cops who end up in questionable shootings is statistically about 0.000005%.

So Trump is right.

We can and should discuss those 0.000005% as ISOLATED from the 99.999995% of other cops. Without burning cities preferably.
And where do you get your stats from? According to the FBI director their is no stats on police misconduct. The violent crime control and law enforcement act passed by congress in 1994 was supposed to keep track of police misconduct. It had full bipartisan support. The act was never implemented as police unions began to unify and pass state laws prohibiting the data from being recorded. They only give information on a voluntary basis, which means only time video is taken that they do not control and it hits the media.

So since they control the data and do not relinquish it, nobody knows how bad or how far this problem is or even if there is a problem. The videos that have come to light have been troubling and it seems when the police control the video it takes years to release it if the officer looks bad, but if it is video that shows the officer in a good light the police release it within hours and video or information showing the perpetrator as being a law breaker even it has nothing to do wih the case at hand.

The solution would enforce the congressional act with an agency that is separate from the chain of command of the police. If police see a pattern of aggression within their ranks by certain officers, yet do not evaluate or suspend that officer before an incident happens, then they are culpable and negligent as officers.

My points are there are no stats because police each district keeps its own records and it is not release able to the public. so you cannot possibly know that they are all bad or all good. It gives the impression of corruption, with no oversight.

Each department has an internal affairs department that tracks their own stats independently, dude.
Yes as I stated only if it is brought to the internal affairs. Police culture needs to change, they need a standardized psychological test to become police officers. Like I said if they let things go with officers that show patterns of aggression, then they are not good police officers. And internal affairs comes in only when an incident happens, way too late to save a citizen from harm. And they are not following a congressional act that was supposed to record and collect data. Police are not following the law.

I am not sure how you can argue the point when they themselves are negligent.
 
He's right.

There is a difference is having an honest discussion regarding police....including criticizing some things....versus blanket smearing of cops and using phrases such as "oink oink bang bang" or roasting a pig with a cop hat on it.

The % of cops who end up in questionable shootings is statistically about 0.000005%.

So Trump is right.

We can and should discuss those 0.000005% as ISOLATED from the 99.999995% of other cops. Without burning cities preferably.
And where do you get your stats from? According to the FBI director their is no stats on police misconduct. The violent crime control and law enforcement act passed by congress in 1994 was supposed to keep track of police misconduct. It had full bipartisan support. The act was never implemented as police unions began to unify and pass state laws prohibiting the data from being recorded. They only give information on a voluntary basis, which means only time video is taken that they do not control and it hits the media.

So since they control the data and do not relinquish it, nobody knows how bad or how far this problem is or even if there is a problem. The videos that have come to light have been troubling and it seems when the police control the video it takes years to release it if the officer looks bad, but if it is video that shows the officer in a good light the police release it within hours and video or information showing the perpetrator as being a law breaker even it has nothing to do wih the case at hand.

The solution would enforce the congressional act with an agency that is separate from the chain of command of the police. If police see a pattern of aggression within their ranks by certain officers, yet do not evaluate or suspend that officer before an incident happens, then they are culpable and negligent as officers.

My points are there are no stats because police each district keeps its own records and it is not release able to the public. so you cannot possibly know that they are all bad or all good. It gives the impression of corruption, with no oversight.

Each department has an internal affairs department that tracks their own stats independently, dude.

So "dude" the police self-police?

How well has *that* worked?
 
Having blacks obey the law is like slavery to them
 

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