Trump proves he is a weak leader

[Indeependent]

Sure I could. Why not?

Liar.

Who’s the illegal in your family?

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

You meam the Dems aren't going out of their way to bail Trump out for his promises that he couldn't even get Republican support for over the last two years.

It didn't matter if he had all the Republican Senators on board. He needed 60 votes like he does today. The only way around that is for McConnell to change the rules so it only needs a simple majority, and that's dangerous because the same would apply if the Democrats win leadership of the Senate again. However I knew that wasn't going to happen otherwise the Congress would have passed a 30 billion dollar budget for the wall and have the Senate rules changed.

You're missing the point. Trump's own majority doesn't back the wall. There's more than 1/3 of Republicans in the Senate that will never vote for it. That's not the Dems fault. So Trump needs nearly 30 Dems then to vote for funding. That will never happen.

The wall is dead. It always has been.

Trump has no majority as both the Rs and Ds have sold out America.

Not for a wall anyway. We recognize this. So why then is a shutdown somehow a solution for Trump?

I voted for a wall and if I don’t get it I don’t mind shutting down my tax dollars sustaining illegals.

I just outlined why it's not going to happen.
Explain how a shutdown changes those facts.

 

[Indeependent]

It didn't matter if he had all the Republican Senators on board. He needed 60 votes like he does today. The only way around that is for McConnell to change the rules so it only needs a simple majority, and that's dangerous because the same would apply if the Democrats win leadership of the Senate again. However I knew that wasn't going to happen otherwise the Congress would have passed a 30 billion dollar budget for the wall and have the Senate rules changed.

You're missing the point. Trump's own majority doesn't back the wall. There's more than 1/3 of Republicans in the Senate that will never vote for it. That's not the Dems fault. So Trump needs nearly 30 Dems then to vote for funding. That will never happen.

The wall is dead. It always has been.

Trump has no majority as both the Rs and Ds have sold out America.

Not for a wall anyway. We recognize this. So why then is a shutdown somehow a solution for Trump?

I voted for a wall and if I don’t get it I don’t mind shutting down my tax dollars sustaining illegals.

I just outlined why it's not going to happen.
Explain how a shutdown changes those facts.

Trump voters want a wall.
Trump shows backbone and gets reelected.

 

[rightwinger]

45 cannot find the votes. Democrats do not and will not fund a Wall that will never work.

I do however have a question to all of you Dumber Than Dirt, Seig Heil Shouting, Goose Stepping GroppenFuhrer Followers. 45 promised Mexico would pay for the Wall. So why do we need a shut down in the first fucking place?

Because the Democrats won't approve of the 5.8 billion Trump wants. That's why the government is shutting down.

You meam the Dems aren't going out of their way to bail Trump out for his promises that he couldn't even get Republican support for over the last two years.

It didn't matter if he had all the Republican Senators on board. He needed 60 votes like he does today. The only way around that is for McConnell to change the rules so it only needs a simple majority, and that's dangerous because the same would apply if the Democrats win leadership of the Senate again. However I knew that wasn't going to happen otherwise the Congress would have passed a 30 billion dollar budget for the wall and have the Senate rules changed.

You're missing the point. Trump's own majority doesn't back the wall. There's more than 1/3 of Republicans in the Senate that will never vote for it. That's not the Dems fault. So Trump needs nearly 30 Dems then to vote for funding. That will never happen.

The wall is dead. It always has been.

Trump has no majority as both the Rs and Ds have sold out America.

Actually, both Dems and Republicans think Trump is an asshole

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Liar.

Who’s the illegal in your family?

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

So nothing useful?

Give us your assessment of how this shutdown will change the support for the wall in the Senate.

 

[rightwinger]

You're missing the point. Trump's own majority doesn't back the wall. There's more than 1/3 of Republicans in the Senate that will never vote for it. That's not the Dems fault. So Trump needs nearly 30 Dems then to vote for funding. That will never happen.

The wall is dead. It always has been.

Trump has no majority as both the Rs and Ds have sold out America.

Not for a wall anyway. We recognize this. So why then is a shutdown somehow a solution for Trump?

I voted for a wall and if I don’t get it I don’t mind shutting down my tax dollars sustaining illegals.

I just outlined why it's not going to happen.
Explain how a shutdown changes those facts.

Trump voters want a wall.
Trump shows backbone and gets reelected.

America does not care about a wall

Most want to fuk Trump at any cost

 

[Indeependent]

Who’s the illegal in your family?

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

So nothing useful?

Give us your assessment of how this shutdown will change the support for the wall in the Senate.

How stupid are you?
Not one R wants a wall because their contributors love cheap labor.
If you don’t want a wall, you never will.
If you want a wall, you always will.
Why are you so concerned about a shutdown when everyone affected by it eventually gets paid anyway?
It shows how little you know about how the government lies to you every day.

 

[Indeependent]

Who’s the illegal in your family?

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

So nothing useful?

Give us your assessment of how this shutdown will change the support for the wall in the Senate.

Blah, blah, blah...your illegalness is all that’s important to you.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

So nothing useful?

Give us your assessment of how this shutdown will change the support for the wall in the Senate.

How stupid are you?
Not one R wants a wall because their contributors love cheap labor.
If you don’t want a wall, you never will.
If you want a wall, you always will.
Why are you so concerned about a shutdown when everyone affected by it eventually gets paid anyway?
It shows how little you know about how the government lies to you every day.

Great. So you agree the wall is dead.
How does a shutdown change that? It doesnt. So, like you said, it's really just a tantrum because you didn't get your wall.

Not leadership but losery.

 

[bravoactual]

Who’s the illegal in your family?

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

So nothing useful?

Give us your assessment of how this shutdown will change the support for the wall in the Senate.

There was a spending

Trump's own words...A shutdown falls on the President’s lack of leadership. He can’t even control his own party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the president is weak."

This is the third shutdown in less than a year, all while the president's party controlled both sides of Congress.

Thank you Mr Trump for showing us what a weak leader is.

45 cannot find the votes. Democrats do not and will not fund a Wall that will never work.

I do however have a question to all of you Dumber Than Dirt, Seig Heil Shouting, Goose Stepping GroppenFuhrer Followers. 45 promised Mexico would pay for the Wall. So why do we need a shut down in the first fucking place?

Because the Democrats won't approve of the 5.8 billion Trump wants. That's why the government is shutting down.

You meam the Dems aren't going out of their way to bail Trump out for his promises that he couldn't even get Republican support for over the last two years.

It didn't matter if he had all the Republican Senators on board. He needed 60 votes like he does today. The only way around that is for McConnell to change the rules so it only needs a simple majority, and that's dangerous because the same would apply if the Democrats win leadership of the Senate again. However I knew that wasn't going to happen otherwise the Congress would have passed a 30 billion dollar budget for the wall and have the Senate rules changed.

You're missing the point. Trump's own majority doesn't back the wall. There's more than 1/3 of Republicans in the Senate that will never vote for it. That's not the Dems fault. So Trump needs nearly 30 Dems then to vote for funding. That will never happen.

The wall is dead. It always has been.

There is already a Spending Bill with Bi-Partisan Support that 45 shot down. Then there was one vote in the Senate....47-48 with the V.P. casting the deciding for nothing. 45 does not have support in his own Republican led Senate. Democrats do not have to support the Wall and they won't.

Just reminder all of you Dead From Neck Up, Dumber Than a Sack of Hammer, Goose Stepping Seil Heil Shouting GroppenFuhrer Fans....he is the one who wanted this shut down. He said he was proud to own this shut down.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

So nothing useful?

Give us your assessment of how this shutdown will change the support for the wall in the Senate.

Blah, blah, blah...your illegalness is all that’s important to you.

I've given you multiple opportunities to engage and you've opted for trolling instead.


Loser.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

So nothing useful?

Give us your assessment of how this shutdown will change the support for the wall in the Senate.

There was a spending

45 cannot find the votes. Democrats do not and will not fund a Wall that will never work.

I do however have a question to all of you Dumber Than Dirt, Seig Heil Shouting, Goose Stepping GroppenFuhrer Followers. 45 promised Mexico would pay for the Wall. So why do we need a shut down in the first fucking place?

Because the Democrats won't approve of the 5.8 billion Trump wants. That's why the government is shutting down.

You meam the Dems aren't going out of their way to bail Trump out for his promises that he couldn't even get Republican support for over the last two years.

It didn't matter if he had all the Republican Senators on board. He needed 60 votes like he does today. The only way around that is for McConnell to change the rules so it only needs a simple majority, and that's dangerous because the same would apply if the Democrats win leadership of the Senate again. However I knew that wasn't going to happen otherwise the Congress would have passed a 30 billion dollar budget for the wall and have the Senate rules changed.

You're missing the point. Trump's own majority doesn't back the wall. There's more than 1/3 of Republicans in the Senate that will never vote for it. That's not the Dems fault. So Trump needs nearly 30 Dems then to vote for funding. That will never happen.

The wall is dead. It always has been.

There is already a Spending Bill with Bi-Partisan Support that 45 shot down. Then there was one vote in the Senate....47-48 with the V.P. casting the deciding for nothing. 45 does not have support in his own Republican led Senate. Democrats do not have to support the Wall and they won't.

Just reminder all of you Dead From Neck Up, Dumber Than a Sack of Hammer, Goose Stepping Seil Heil Shouting GroppenFuhrer Fans....he is the one who wanted this shut down. He said he was proud to own this shut down.

This is very much Trump's shutdown.

He agreed to a clean CR. Congress delivered and Trump refused to sign it.

He reneged.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump Administration Warns Shutdown Could Last Into January
WSJ

"...Pressure on Mr. Trump mounted on Sunday as some Republican lawmakers derided the shutdown as political theater.

“This is a made up fight so the president can look like he’s fighting,” Sen. Bob Corker (R., Tenn) said on CNN,
adding that “this is something that is unnecessary, it’s a spectacle and candidly its juvenile.”..."
​

`

Like we really care what a Benedict Arnold thinks.

You should. You need his vote, dope.

We won't get his vote no matter what.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump's own words...A shutdown falls on the President’s lack of leadership. He can’t even control his own party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the president is weak."

This is the third shutdown in less than a year, all while the president's party controlled both sides of Congress.

Thank you Mr Trump for showing us what a weak leader is.

45 cannot find the votes. Democrats do not and will not fund a Wall that will never work.

I do however have a question to all of you Dumber Than Dirt, Seig Heil Shouting, Goose Stepping GroppenFuhrer Followers. 45 promised Mexico would pay for the Wall. So why do we need a shut down in the first fucking place?

Because the Democrats won't approve of the 5.8 billion Trump wants. That's why the government is shutting down.

You meam the Dems aren't going out of their way to bail Trump out for his promises that he couldn't even get Republican support for over the last two years.

It didn't matter if he had all the Republican Senators on board. He needed 60 votes like he does today. The only way around that is for McConnell to change the rules so it only needs a simple majority, and that's dangerous because the same would apply if the Democrats win leadership of the Senate again. However I knew that wasn't going to happen otherwise the Congress would have passed a 30 billion dollar budget for the wall and have the Senate rules changed.

You're missing the point. Trump's own majority doesn't back the wall. There's more than 1/3 of Republicans in the Senate that will never vote for it. That's not the Dems fault. So Trump needs nearly 30 Dems then to vote for funding. That will never happen.

The wall is dead. It always has been.

So where can I purchase a crystal ball as accurate as yours?

Any Republican voting against the wall is putting their reelection chances in serious jeopardy.

 

[easyt65]

And I wish Trump would get his thumb out of his ass and show some leadership.

President Trump is acting, leading...

The only action the Democrats are taking is obstruction, opposition of what is in the greater good for all in favor of what they deem best for the party.

Shuttering the govt is not an act of leadership. It's a crass political move used to create leverage where none previously existed.

There is no blaming Dems. Senate Republicans don't want this wall either.

It's his only option to stand against those facilitating the invasion of our country and the violating of our laws.

There is no invasion, dope. Trump has never had the votes for a wall.

20+ MILLION illegals in the US...
1500 illegals per week
4,000 illegals physically pushing past police and the military, attempting to tear down barricades, and climbing over border walls to illegally enter the US....

And your dumbass says that's not an 'invasion' just because Trump says it is...

BWUHAHAHAHAHA...

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump's own words...A shutdown falls on the President’s lack of leadership. He can’t even control his own party and get people together in a room. A shutdown means the president is weak."

This is the third shutdown in less than a year, all while the president's party controlled both sides of Congress.

Thank you Mr Trump for showing us what a weak leader is.

Since “shutdowns”only affect the Park Service, they are no more than kabuki theatre, yes they are a sign of weakness. Now if they really sent everyone home, that would be operating in strength. Note: I realize, for ptactical reasons this cannot apply to the military services actively operating overseas.

If I were a government employee I would be hoping for a three month shutdown. Three months paid vacation. I never had that before in my life unless you consider unemployment a vacation.

Could you go three months without a paycheck? Of course not.

Sure I could. Why not?

Liar.

Not a liar at all. I have a hefty checking account balance, credit cards I haven't used in years with $10,000 limits on them, and the availability to apply and get a home equity loan. I'd be just fine with a three month paid vacation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The funding for the wall was already passed. It's in the hands of the Senate now. The Democrats can't take over and say "we want that bill back to vote on it again!"

No, but they can pass a new bill. That old one doesn’t stop the powers of the new House. In fact dotard and his following of willing fart sniffers can expect a lot of new bills coming at them. A tsunami of new bills. Right along with a tsunami of subpoenas for the dotard crime syndicate.

They can pass anything they like. It won't replace the Republican bill already passed. The Senate would just laugh at them.

A new Congress can require a totally new bill or kill the legislation if it is not signed into law

Only if it goes back to them after it passes the Senate. If it's stuck in the Senate, they have no ability to do anything.

Agree

The wall is DOA

If that's the case, then the government stays shutdown until 2020.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Like we really care what a Benedict Arnold thinks.

I's more than Corker and it's Obviously TRUE (You Moron).
He ain't getting 9 Democratic Senators.

This is a show by Trump of his "conviction".... before the real convictions.
Same with the outgoing GOP Congressional Right Wingers.
They just want to be on record as having "stood on Principle", because they KNOW on Jan-3 they Lose.
So it's easy to "make a stand" for their far right constituents Instead of just not letting it happen or ending it sooner than Jan-3.

Like all Trumpies, you're STUPID.
`

If you see your mother at Christmas, make sure to tell her I said she raised a real idiot.

 

[rightwinger]

Do you have something to say?

It’s pretty obvious based on your avatar that either you love illegals taking jobs away from minorities or you are an illegal.
You’re stuck in your unfair justice mode.

My avatar has nothing to do with your dopey assessment or this issue.
Do you have a comment on anything useful?

I called out your illegal butt and you full well know it.

So nothing useful?

Give us your assessment of how this shutdown will change the support for the wall in the Senate.

How stupid are you?
Not one R wants a wall because their contributors love cheap labor.
If you don’t want a wall, you never will.
If you want a wall, you always will.
Why are you so concerned about a shutdown when everyone affected by it eventually gets paid anyway?
It shows how little you know about how the government lies to you every day.

Walls are a solution for the simple minded

 

[rightwinger]

No, but they can pass a new bill. That old one doesn’t stop the powers of the new House. In fact dotard and his following of willing fart sniffers can expect a lot of new bills coming at them. A tsunami of new bills. Right along with a tsunami of subpoenas for the dotard crime syndicate.

They can pass anything they like. It won't replace the Republican bill already passed. The Senate would just laugh at them.

A new Congress can require a totally new bill or kill the legislation if it is not signed into law

Only if it goes back to them after it passes the Senate. If it's stuck in the Senate, they have no ability to do anything.

Agree

The wall is DOA

If that's the case, then the government stays shutdown until 2020.

It is Trumps responsibility to run the government
Let him do it without employees