Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

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That's right, folks, rgulations cost more than just money. They also cost lives. When people don't have enough money to pay for health insurance, drugs, groceries, etc, they sometimes die. Poverty kills, and Obama's pointless regulations create more poverty

Trump Improves Transparency by Ending EPA Sue-and-Settle Agreements

Poverty remains, by far, the biggest killer of humans, and government-imposed regulations have been proven to create economic costs that make poverty more likely. As a result, the U.S. Office of Management and Budget estimates every $7.5 million to $12 million in regulatory costs imposed on the economy results in a life lost.

Federal and state government regulatory costs top $1.9 trillion annually, amounting to $14,842 per U.S. household. That’s nearly $15,000 that’s unavailable to families to pay for health insurance, medicine or medical bills, college expenses, groceries, a new car, or vacations.

These facts clearly show why substantive and formal transparency is critical when developing and imposing regulations. Regulations should be built on unimpeachable science. To best ensure that occurs, government agencies should disclose all the science, models, and information exchanges used to make agency decisions, and no agency should be allowed to use any report to support or justify a rule if the research is not open to verification by outside parties.

Additionally, every government research contract should require recipients to make available all assumptions, models, data, and email exchanges related to the contracted research upon receiving a Freedom of Information Act request or a request by a congressional committee that has proper oversight.

Increasing transparency in the research processes used to justify regulations is not enough. There must also be transparent processes for establishing new rules forced on the public by regulatory agencies.

Existing laws already require transparency in the normal rulemaking process. For instance, regulatory agencies must reach out to stakeholders, including state governments likely to be affected by proposed rules, for input concerning the need for a rule and what form it should take. Laws or internal agency rules also typically require public hearings and a public notice period while regulations are being drafted and, once drafted, before they are finalized.

However, during President Barack Obama’s administration, rather than following this legally required transparency process, bureaucrats worked behind the scenes to collude with lobbyists from radical environmental groups to impose costly policies outside of the normal rulemaking process and expand the coffers of environmental groups using “sue-and-settle.”

Sue-and-settle is a strategy used most often by environmental special-interest groups. The groups sue a federal agency, demanding the agency issue rules by a specific deadline, and the group and agency then enter into a private settlement that becomes legally binding for the agency. These agreements allow rules to be created without agencies having to go through the normal rulemaking channels, and there are no public comment periods.
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

Why don't you throw your computer out and send your posts by snail mail to the USMB, that's an accurate equivalency to your stupid argument.
This is why progressives call idiots like you regressives. You want to go back 200 years in energy production instead of moving forward into solar and wind.
You really think it's cheaper to mine coal than to harvest the wind and the sunlight?
 
This is what it's all about. The Koch brothers could care less about anybody's lives except their own. Just like Trump. They've been working on dismantling the EPA for years.

New EPA head Scott Pruitt's emails reveal close ties with fossil fuel ...
News, sport and opinion from the Guardian's US edition | The Guardian › Environment › US Environmental Protection Agency
Feb 22, 2017 - Scott Pruitt's emails also show a cosy relationship with Alec and lobby groups sponsored by the Koch brothers. Photograph: Susan Walsh/AP.
Koch Brothers Behind Push To Dismantle EPA | DeSmogBlog
Koch Brothers Behind Push To Dismantle EPA
Nov 11, 2011 - During last week's Americans For Prosperity (AFP) event, a common theme kept creeping into the speakers' presentations: Dismantle the EPA.
Missing: deregulation
The Koch Brothers' Covert Operations | The New Yorker
The Koch Brothers' Covert Ops
Aug 30, 2010 - Jane Mayer on Charles and David Koch, the billionairebrothers who pour ... liberal blog ThinkProgress, has called the Kochs “the billionaires behind the hate. .... “It's ground zero for deregulation policy in Washington,” Rob Stein, the ... In 1997, for instance, the E.P.A. moved to reduce surface ozone, a form ...
Koch Pledge Tied to Congressional Climate Inaction | The New Yorker
https://www.newyorker.com/news/.../koch-pledge-tied-to-congressional-climate-inacti...
Jun 30, 2013 - Koch Industries, according to Environmental Protection Agency ... Hill in favor of deregulation,” of the environment and energy sector, the study says. ... Paris Climate Agreement, the Koch Brothers' Campaign Becomes Overt.
 
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Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?
When repukes decide to pay people a living wage!!!
 
This is what it's all about. The Koch brothers could care less about anybody's lives except their own. Just like Trump. They've been working on dismantling the EPA for years.

New EPA head Scott Pruitt's emails reveal close ties with fossil fuel ...
News, sport and opinion from the Guardian's US edition | The Guardian › Environment › US Environmental Protection Agency
Feb 22, 2017 - Scott Pruitt's emails also show a cosy relationship with Alec and lobby groups sponsored by the Koch brothers. Photograph: Susan Walsh/AP.
Koch Brothers Behind Push To Dismantle EPA | DeSmogBlog
Koch Brothers Behind Push To Dismantle EPA
Nov 11, 2011 - During last week's Americans For Prosperity (AFP) event, a common theme kept creeping into the speakers' presentations: Dismantle the EPA.
Missing: deregulation
The Koch Brothers' Covert Operations | The New Yorker
The Koch Brothers' Covert Ops
Aug 30, 2010 - Jane Mayer on Charles and David Koch, the billionairebrothers who pour ... liberal blog ThinkProgress, has called the Kochs “the billionaires behind the hate. .... “It's ground zero for deregulation policy in Washington,” Rob Stein, the ... In 1997, for instance, the E.P.A. moved to reduce surface ozone, a form ...
Koch Pledge Tied to Congressional Climate Inaction | The New Yorker
https://www.newyorker.com/news/.../koch-pledge-tied-to-congressional-climate-inacti...
Jun 30, 2013 - Koch Industries, according to Environmental Protection Agency ... Hill in favor of deregulation,” of the environment and energy sector, the study says. ... Paris Climate Agreement, the Koch Brothers' Campaign Becomes Overt.

ROFL! Noooooooo, regulations don't have a downside! They don't have a cost! It's those evil Koch brothers who are trying to fool everyone.

It's so telling that you won't even address the subject of the OP. You reflixively employ the classic Alinsky tactic.
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

Apparently not all of us are as cheap as you. Many of us are willing to spend a little more for a higher quality of life for humans, animals, and the planet.
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

Why don't you throw your computer out and send your posts by snail mail to the USMB, that's an accurate equivalency to your stupid argument.
This is why progressives call idiots like you regressives. You want to go back 200 years in energy production instead of moving forward into solar and wind.
You really think it's cheaper to mine coal than to harvest the wind and the sunlight?

Converting to solar and wind is not moving forward. Windmills have been around for at least 3000 years.

You're posting slogans rather than objective facts and logic.

Coal is far cheaper than wind energy. The latter requires 100% backup from a reliable source of energy like fossil fuels, so how can it be cheaper?
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

Apparently not all of us are as cheap as you. Many of us are willing to spend a little more for a higher quality of life for humans, animals, and the planet.

It's not about me, asshole. It's about the poor. Your regulations are killing them. People in Germany and the UK freeze to death because they can't afford to pay their power bill.
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

More people die from pollution than lack of cheap electricity.
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

More people die from pollution than lack of cheap electricity.

Wrong. Produce a single death certificate that says the person died from pollution.
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

Why don't you throw your computer out and send your posts by snail mail to the USMB, that's an accurate equivalency to your stupid argument.
This is why progressives call idiots like you regressives. You want to go back 200 years in energy production instead of moving forward into solar and wind.
You really think it's cheaper to mine coal than to harvest the wind and the sunlight?

Converting to solar and wind is not moving forward. Windmills have been around for at least 3000 years.

You're posting slogans rather than objective facts and logic.

Coal is far cheaper than wind energy. The latter requires 100% backup from a reliable source of energy like fossil fuels, so how can it be cheaper?
My solar power is totally reliable with a wall battery for night and dark day power. No fossil fuel involved.
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

More people die from pollution than lack of cheap electricity.

Wrong. Produce a single death certificate that says the person died from pollution.
You will not find pollution as cause of death but respiratory failure.
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

Why don't you throw your computer out and send your posts by snail mail to the USMB, that's an accurate equivalency to your stupid argument.
This is why progressives call idiots like you regressives. You want to go back 200 years in energy production instead of moving forward into solar and wind.
You really think it's cheaper to mine coal than to harvest the wind and the sunlight?
You're an absolute moron. If creating electricity with wind and solar is cheaper than coal and natural gas then why the hell do they need subsidies to exist? OH! That's right. They can't compete with other energy sources and would go out of business if they lost the subsidies. Do you really think energy companies would may more to produce electricity if they could save money using solar and wind?
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

Why don't you throw your computer out and send your posts by snail mail to the USMB, that's an accurate equivalency to your stupid argument.
This is why progressives call idiots like you regressives. You want to go back 200 years in energy production instead of moving forward into solar and wind.
You really think it's cheaper to mine coal than to harvest the wind and the sunlight?

Converting to solar and wind is not moving forward. Windmills have been around for at least 3000 years.

You're posting slogans rather than objective facts and logic.

Coal is far cheaper than wind energy. The latter requires 100% backup from a reliable source of energy like fossil fuels, so how can it be cheaper?
My solar power is totally reliable with a wall battery for night and dark day power. No fossil fuel involved.
And how much of your system was paid for by government subsidies and tax credits?
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

Why don't you throw your computer out and send your posts by snail mail to the USMB, that's an accurate equivalency to your stupid argument.
This is why progressives call idiots like you regressives. You want to go back 200 years in energy production instead of moving forward into solar and wind.
You really think it's cheaper to mine coal than to harvest the wind and the sunlight?

Converting to solar and wind is not moving forward. Windmills have been around for at least 3000 years.

You're posting slogans rather than objective facts and logic.

Coal is far cheaper than wind energy. The latter requires 100% backup from a reliable source of energy like fossil fuels, so how can it be cheaper?
My solar power is totally reliable with a wall battery for night and dark day power. No fossil fuel involved.
How much did that cost?
 
Trump Saves Lives by Killing EPA Regulations

Yeah, coal will help us live longer.
It sure as hell does. Cheap electricty refrigerates our food and makes it possible to pay for food, health insurance and prescription drugs.

Do you thnk more people die when everything is expensive or when everything is cheap?

More people die from pollution than lack of cheap electricity.

Wrong. Produce a single death certificate that says the person died from pollution.
You will not find pollution as cause of death but respiratory failure.
Which has nothing to do with pollution.
 

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