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A lot of mistakes were made, but none of that has anything to do with withdrawing now. The only important question is, how does it serve the interests of the US or our allies for the US to continue to fight a war in Afghanistan?So what would you do?
I would have advocated for punishing as many al Qaeda camps as necessary to drive them out and kill their leaders, as well as reigning hell on anyone who got in our way. Then leave a post it note on the door to not let terrorist use the country to attack us again or we'll be back with more hell. I think I would have saved a little hell for the cells in Yemen too. Pay back for the USS Cole. No Nation building. No long term occupation. No Iraq invasion.
That's what we've been doing for the last 19 years. It's pretty obvious the Taliban is not going to disappear in a puff of smoke. You either stay there and try to kill everyone of them for the next 20 or 30 years, or just say "fuckit" and leave. It's not an easy choice.
The Taliban is not al Qaeda. The first big mistake was made when Clinton failed to respond to their attack on Oct 12,2000 that killed 17 sailors. Next Bush ignored them for 7 months.
So what would you do?
I would have advocated for punishing as many al Qaeda camps as necessary to drive them out and kill their leaders, as well as reigning hell on anyone who got in our way. Then leave a post it note on the door to not let terrorist use the country to attack us again or we'll be back with more hell. I think I would have saved a little hell for the cells in Yemen too. Pay back for the USS Cole. No Nation building. No long term occupation. No Iraq invasion.
That's what we've been doing for the last 19 years. It's pretty obvious the Taliban is not going to disappear in a puff of smoke. You either stay there and try to kill everyone of them for the next 20 or 30 years, or just say "fuckit" and leave. It's not an easy choice.
The Taliban is not al Qaeda. The first big mistake was made when Clinton failed to respond to their attack on Oct 12,2000 that killed 17 sailors. Next Bush ignored them for 7 months.
They lost the "endless wars" talking point so that means he surrendered. Or something like that.He surrendered? Wyd are you talking about?
troops coming home. you? what is it you want?not sure what it is you want. so what is it you want?lol So if the President wants peace, you want war.You mean Cut and Run Orange Turd.
Or Trumpyubear in his yellow cape!
Peace with honor. LOL. How long before VC regulars take over the entire.... ops did I say VC regulars?.... Sorry I meant Taliban.
Whatchagot?
troops coming home. you? what is it you want?not sure what it is you want. so what is it you want?lol So if the President wants peace, you want war.
Peace with honor. LOL. How long before VC regulars take over the entire.... ops did I say VC regulars?.... Sorry I meant Taliban.
Whatchagot?
Telegraphing our withdrawal date? Wasn't that something Trump insistently criticized Obama about?
Besides when it's a new Democrat in the White House in 14 months you guys can call em Cut an Run xxxxx too!
It's like Déjà vu all over again
lol No, Obama wanted to withdraw without first making a peace deal with the Taliban. President Trump signed a peace deal with the Taliban and made it clear the US would be back if they didn't live up to it.troops coming home. you? what is it you want?not sure what it is you want. so what is it you want?lol So if the President wants peace, you want war.
Peace with honor. LOL. How long before VC regulars take over the entire.... ops did I say VC regulars?.... Sorry I meant Taliban.
Whatchagot?
Telegraphing our withdrawal date? Wasn't that something Trump insistently criticized Obama about?
Besides when it's a new Democrat in the White House in 14 months you guys can call em Cut an Run xxxxx too!
It's like Déjà vu all over again
lol No, Obama wanted to withdraw without first making a peace deal with the Taliban. President Trump signed a peace deal with the Taliban and made it clear the US would be back if they didn't live up to it.troops coming home. you? what is it you want?not sure what it is you want. so what is it you want?Peace with honor. LOL. How long before VC regulars take over the entire.... ops did I say VC regulars?.... Sorry I meant Taliban.
Whatchagot?
Telegraphing our withdrawal date? Wasn't that something Trump insistently criticized Obama about?
Besides when it's a new Democrat in the White House in 14 months you guys can call em Cut an Run xxxxx too!
It's like Déjà vu all over again
troops coming home. you? what is it you want?not sure what it is you want. so what is it you want?Peace with honor. LOL. How long before VC regulars take over the entire.... ops did I say VC regulars?.... Sorry I meant Taliban.
Whatchagot?
Telegraphing our withdrawal date? Wasn't that something Trump insistently criticized Obama about?
Besides when it's a new Democrat in the White House in 14 months you guys can call em Cut an Run xxxxx too!
It's like Déjà vu all over again
Did you cheer when it was reported that Pat Tillman was shot by the Taiban/AQ?
Did you cheer even louder when it came out that the bullets in Pat Tillman were from some of his fellow "US" Army Rangers?
The United States should never have invaded Afghan. Afghan had nothing to do with 911. Israel did....
Is there a pattern here?
In December 2018 Trump lost his most capable secretary of defense, Marine General James Mattis. Trump had ordered a retreat in Syria. Mattis failed in one last attempt at persuading the President to reverse his decision about Syria, which Trump had announced on Wednesday of that week over the objections of his senior advisers. Mattis subsequently resigned. Eventually, the Pentagon overruled Trump, and the retreat order was cancelled.
In October 2019, Trump ordered the withdrawal of American forces from northern Syria, a decision that effectively ceded control of the area to the Syrian government and Russia. Hundreds of our allies responsible for the destruction of the ISIS caliphate were killed, and thousands more were forced to flee their homes in Syria.
In February 2020 Trump struck a deal with the Taliban that will have the United States withdraw from the country in 14 months if the rogue regime meets certain criteria, including stopping attacks on U.S. forces in the country (huh?). Trump, who avoided military service, is apparently ignorant of the meaning of war.
The U.S. removed the Taliban from power in October 2001 because it sponsored Al Qaeda. On 9/11 Al Qaeda was responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans. The Taliban is responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans.
Now Trump is surrendering to the Taliban. There is little doubt that once American troops leave, the Taliban will regain power in Kabul, and Afghanistan will once again become a haven for Islamic terrorism thanks to Trump. The Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists.
Is there a pattern here? Most definitely. Trump is placating his patron, Vladimir Putin. He has done so throughout his Presidency. He causes consternation with our allies abroad and chaos at home. From Putin's viewpoint, what's not to like?
Is there a pattern here?
In December 2018 Trump lost his most capable secretary of defense, Marine General James Mattis. Trump had ordered a retreat in Syria. Mattis failed in one last attempt at persuading the President to reverse his decision about Syria, which Trump had announced on Wednesday of that week over the objections of his senior advisers. Mattis subsequently resigned. Eventually, the Pentagon overruled Trump, and the retreat order was cancelled.
In October 2019, Trump ordered the withdrawal of American forces from northern Syria, a decision that effectively ceded control of the area to the Syrian government and Russia. Hundreds of our allies responsible for the destruction of the ISIS caliphate were killed, and thousands more were forced to flee their homes in Syria.
In February 2020 Trump struck a deal with the Taliban that will have the United States withdraw from the country in 14 months if the rogue regime meets certain criteria, including stopping attacks on U.S. forces in the country (huh?). Trump, who avoided military service, is apparently ignorant of the meaning of war.
The U.S. removed the Taliban from power in October 2001 because it sponsored Al Qaeda. On 9/11 Al Qaeda was responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans. The Taliban is responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans.
Now Trump is surrendering to the Taliban. There is little doubt that once American troops leave, the Taliban will regain power in Kabul, and Afghanistan will once again become a haven for Islamic terrorism thanks to Trump. The Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists.
Is there a pattern here? Most definitely. Trump is placating his patron, Vladimir Putin. He has done so throughout his Presidency. He causes consternation with our allies abroad and chaos at home. From Putin's viewpoint, what's not to like?
Why don't you go fight the Taliban?
Be sure to send us a postcard.
Oh, shut the fuck up. Stop whining. This is a good thing.Is there a pattern here?
In December 2018 Trump lost his most capable secretary of defense, Marine General James Mattis. Trump had ordered a retreat in Syria. Mattis failed in one last attempt at persuading the President to reverse his decision about Syria, which Trump had announced on Wednesday of that week over the objections of his senior advisers. Mattis subsequently resigned. Eventually, the Pentagon overruled Trump, and the retreat order was cancelled.
In October 2019, Trump ordered the withdrawal of American forces from northern Syria, a decision that effectively ceded control of the area to the Syrian government and Russia. Hundreds of our allies responsible for the destruction of the ISIS caliphate were killed, and thousands more were forced to flee their homes in Syria.
In February 2020 Trump struck a deal with the Taliban that will have the United States withdraw from the country in 14 months if the rogue regime meets certain criteria, including stopping attacks on U.S. forces in the country (huh?). Trump, who avoided military service, is apparently ignorant of the meaning of war.
The U.S. removed the Taliban from power in October 2001 because it sponsored Al Qaeda. On 9/11 Al Qaeda was responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans. The Taliban is responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans.
Now Trump is surrendering to the Taliban. There is little doubt that once American troops leave, the Taliban will regain power in Kabul, and Afghanistan will once again become a haven for Islamic terrorism thanks to Trump. The Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists.
Is there a pattern here? Most definitely. Trump is placating his patron, Vladimir Putin. He has done so throughout his Presidency. He causes consternation with our allies abroad and chaos at home. From Putin's viewpoint, what's not to like?
SO much "winning" - And yet another abject FAILURE for Donnie Dumpster.
A lot of mistakes were made, but none of that has anything to do with withdrawing now. The only important question is, how does it serve the interests of the US or our allies for the US to continue to fight a war in Afghanistan?So what would you do?
I would have advocated for punishing as many al Qaeda camps as necessary to drive them out and kill their leaders, as well as reigning hell on anyone who got in our way. Then leave a post it note on the door to not let terrorist use the country to attack us again or we'll be back with more hell. I think I would have saved a little hell for the cells in Yemen too. Pay back for the USS Cole. No Nation building. No long term occupation. No Iraq invasion.
That's what we've been doing for the last 19 years. It's pretty obvious the Taliban is not going to disappear in a puff of smoke. You either stay there and try to kill everyone of them for the next 20 or 30 years, or just say "fuckit" and leave. It's not an easy choice.
The Taliban is not al Qaeda. The first big mistake was made when Clinton failed to respond to their attack on Oct 12,2000 that killed 17 sailors. Next Bush ignored them for 7 months.
Why do you want more war?Is there a pattern here?
In December 2018 Trump lost his most capable secretary of defense, Marine General James Mattis. Trump had ordered a retreat in Syria. Mattis failed in one last attempt at persuading the President to reverse his decision about Syria, which Trump had announced on Wednesday of that week over the objections of his senior advisers. Mattis subsequently resigned. Eventually, the Pentagon overruled Trump, and the retreat order was cancelled.
In October 2019, Trump ordered the withdrawal of American forces from northern Syria, a decision that effectively ceded control of the area to the Syrian government and Russia. Hundreds of our allies responsible for the destruction of the ISIS caliphate were killed, and thousands more were forced to flee their homes in Syria.
In February 2020 Trump struck a deal with the Taliban that will have the United States withdraw from the country in 14 months if the rogue regime meets certain criteria, including stopping attacks on U.S. forces in the country (huh?). Trump, who avoided military service, is apparently ignorant of the meaning of war.
The U.S. removed the Taliban from power in October 2001 because it sponsored Al Qaeda. On 9/11 Al Qaeda was responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans. The Taliban is responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans.
Now Trump is surrendering to the Taliban. There is little doubt that once American troops leave, the Taliban will regain power in Kabul, and Afghanistan will once again become a haven for Islamic terrorism thanks to Trump. The Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists.
Is there a pattern here? Most definitely. Trump is placating his patron, Vladimir Putin. He has done so throughout his Presidency. He causes consternation with our allies abroad and chaos at home. From Putin's viewpoint, what's not to like?
Oh, shut the fuck up. Stop whining. This is a good thing.Is there a pattern here?
In December 2018 Trump lost his most capable secretary of defense, Marine General James Mattis. Trump had ordered a retreat in Syria. Mattis failed in one last attempt at persuading the President to reverse his decision about Syria, which Trump had announced on Wednesday of that week over the objections of his senior advisers. Mattis subsequently resigned. Eventually, the Pentagon overruled Trump, and the retreat order was cancelled.
In October 2019, Trump ordered the withdrawal of American forces from northern Syria, a decision that effectively ceded control of the area to the Syrian government and Russia. Hundreds of our allies responsible for the destruction of the ISIS caliphate were killed, and thousands more were forced to flee their homes in Syria.
In February 2020 Trump struck a deal with the Taliban that will have the United States withdraw from the country in 14 months if the rogue regime meets certain criteria, including stopping attacks on U.S. forces in the country (huh?). Trump, who avoided military service, is apparently ignorant of the meaning of war.
The U.S. removed the Taliban from power in October 2001 because it sponsored Al Qaeda. On 9/11 Al Qaeda was responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans. The Taliban is responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans.
Now Trump is surrendering to the Taliban. There is little doubt that once American troops leave, the Taliban will regain power in Kabul, and Afghanistan will once again become a haven for Islamic terrorism thanks to Trump. The Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists.
Is there a pattern here? Most definitely. Trump is placating his patron, Vladimir Putin. He has done so throughout his Presidency. He causes consternation with our allies abroad and chaos at home. From Putin's viewpoint, what's not to like?
SO much "winning" - And yet another abject FAILURE for Donnie Dumpster.
Why do you want more war?Is there a pattern here?
In December 2018 Trump lost his most capable secretary of defense, Marine General James Mattis. Trump had ordered a retreat in Syria. Mattis failed in one last attempt at persuading the President to reverse his decision about Syria, which Trump had announced on Wednesday of that week over the objections of his senior advisers. Mattis subsequently resigned. Eventually, the Pentagon overruled Trump, and the retreat order was cancelled.
In October 2019, Trump ordered the withdrawal of American forces from northern Syria, a decision that effectively ceded control of the area to the Syrian government and Russia. Hundreds of our allies responsible for the destruction of the ISIS caliphate were killed, and thousands more were forced to flee their homes in Syria.
In February 2020 Trump struck a deal with the Taliban that will have the United States withdraw from the country in 14 months if the rogue regime meets certain criteria, including stopping attacks on U.S. forces in the country (huh?). Trump, who avoided military service, is apparently ignorant of the meaning of war.
The U.S. removed the Taliban from power in October 2001 because it sponsored Al Qaeda. On 9/11 Al Qaeda was responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans. The Taliban is responsible for the killing of nearly 3,000 Americans.
Now Trump is surrendering to the Taliban. There is little doubt that once American troops leave, the Taliban will regain power in Kabul, and Afghanistan will once again become a haven for Islamic terrorism thanks to Trump. The Taliban are Islamic fundamentalists.
Is there a pattern here? Most definitely. Trump is placating his patron, Vladimir Putin. He has done so throughout his Presidency. He causes consternation with our allies abroad and chaos at home. From Putin's viewpoint, what's not to like?
Whatever you want to call it, it is expensive and dangerous for our soldiers, so if it does not serve any interests of the US or our allies, wh stay there?A lot of mistakes were made, but none of that has anything to do with withdrawing now. The only important question is, how does it serve the interests of the US or our allies for the US to continue to fight a war in Afghanistan?So what would you do?
I would have advocated for punishing as many al Qaeda camps as necessary to drive them out and kill their leaders, as well as reigning hell on anyone who got in our way. Then leave a post it note on the door to not let terrorist use the country to attack us again or we'll be back with more hell. I think I would have saved a little hell for the cells in Yemen too. Pay back for the USS Cole. No Nation building. No long term occupation. No Iraq invasion.
That's what we've been doing for the last 19 years. It's pretty obvious the Taliban is not going to disappear in a puff of smoke. You either stay there and try to kill everyone of them for the next 20 or 30 years, or just say "fuckit" and leave. It's not an easy choice.
The Taliban is not al Qaeda. The first big mistake was made when Clinton failed to respond to their attack on Oct 12,2000 that killed 17 sailors. Next Bush ignored them for 7 months.
Is it really a war or are we just occupying/supporting certain portions of Afghanistan?
The entire time we were in Afganistan under Bush......Libtards: Fake war.
