Trump to Cut Food Stamps Budget by 25%

[Wyatt earp]

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


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He didn't pay in jackshit. He has to be at least 65, started working before Ronnie took office. Any idea what the income cap on Social Security was before Reagan?

He said he was retired, how old is he?

Edit : just checked he says he is 66


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I retired when 59 with no pension or severance pay. I never inherited one penny and was homeless twice in my long life. When I turned 62 I took SSA early retirement because I paid into it. When signing up I asked the lady behind the bullet proof glass in the SS office, "Can I take everything out that I put in as a lump sum." She smiled and said no.

No kidding they hope you due before collecting all your SS.



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[Wyatt earp]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

Great job of telling HALF the story .....

Let's see if we can figure this out.

1) Trump proposes federal tax cuts.

2) Trump proposes cutting federal programs, shifting some to states. This is done 1) to help offset the decrease in tax revenue, and 2) to transfer administration of programs to a more local, and thus more responsive, state government.

3) People receive a federal tax break.

4) The state, given its new mandates, has to assume responsibility for those programs removed from the federal budget.

5) Some states - probably, most - will raise taxes to provide those services in a manner acceptable to, and appropriate for, the people of their particular state.

6) Delivery of the product - let say, food stamps - immediately becomes more efficient by the removal of the federal bureaucracy that administers "one size fits all" programs (Notice that we currently spend $4.9 billion administering the federal program)

7) States will tailor these program to fit their particular circumstance. For example, Alabama may choose to limit food stamps to those who make less than $20K, while New York, with its higher cost of living, may choose to provide food stamps to those making less than $50K, a decision that will be reviewed, and agreed upon, by those people responsible for funding the program in their particular state.

And, this is a problem how, again?

HISTORY, Bubs say you are full of SHIT


When it Comes to Helping the Poor, Block Grants Are an Epic Failure
When it comes to helping the poor, block grants are an epic failure



How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant
How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.
Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

Red States Spent $2 Billion in 2015 to Screw the Poor

....Here's what this means: the states that refuse to expand Medicaid are denying health care to the needy and paying about $2 billion for the privilege. Try to comprehend the kind of people who do this.
Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Zzzzzzzzzz yea we don't have any poor ass blacks in red States either.





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[Virginia Mom]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.[/qouote]
How is it government money when it is taken out of your paycheck every payday to be there for you when you retire? I sure wasn't iven a choice,

I volunteer at my county's food bank, and we have 37,000 people who are our clients. Simply because Trump and the GOP base are well fed does not mean that people do not go to bed hungry in the richest nation in the world, through no fault of their own.

Problem is...many of the foods served at the food bank are raw chicken. What about the homeless? Where are they to cook that chicken?

We are supposed to be the greatest country in the world. Yet...we are too busy "saving" everyone else, and our own are dying. Even those that fought for this country are dying once they get home. So..where is the help for them? Us? The people who paid taxes, worked, paid into the system, put ourselves in harms way for something we believed in only to be kicked to the curb for those circumstances beyond our control? What about us????[/

 

[JonKoch]

You mean the same people who are sucking down social security and crippling the system? The ones who are crippling the healthcare system? Or the ones who were able to get pensions and high paying jobs without a college education?

This country isn't even great anymore, nor did those lunatics make this country great... If anything they turned a great country into a 3rd world one.

Like I said, you are a liar and a fake. Add to that my vote for you being in the good running for the biggest jerk on the board, and that is saying a lot. Sorry, you have such hate for your country and fellow Americans.

LOL lying about what?

Elderly = Takes from the working people when most of them have plenty of money in the bank.

Yeah let's keep supporting those people. For the remaining "poor" elderly, they have families that support them.

So you believe an elderly woman that worked two and three minimum wage jobs her whole life and paid into Social security is a drain on you? She collects about $800.00 a month and doesn't have money in the bank as she spent it all taking care of her children and even a couple of her grandchildren (with her minimum wage job & with no assistance as it wasn't available then in her state).

Let me explain something to you, fuck tard.

The elderly's generation = Big pensions, cheap college, various jobs.

Today's youth = No pensions, expensive college, crappy minimum wage jobs.

The elderly had it MUCH easier when they were young, so fuck them if they want more support from the very same people they ruined this country for.

If they're really that poor they can get their lazy asses up off the couch and get a job. I have a co-worker who's 70, works 40 hours a week, and is going strong.

Sorry I'm not filtered.

Wow, you're seriously fucked in the head and have no respect for elders. You must be under 25, because that's how long the schools have been indoctrinating the kids to think that way.

You must be over 65 because that's the only generation who thinks they deserve free healthcare and food paid for by everyone else while the national debt continues to balloon.

The world has changed since the elderly were in the work force. Gone are the factory jobs paying $25 an hour with big pensions offered when you retired.

Not sure what factories you are talking about the ones here that close a few years back paid $6 to $8 at the most for the majority of their labor.

*Gross Income Limit If not Elderly or Disabled *Max F.S. Benefit for Everyone
1 person: $1,265 $194
2 people: $1,705 $357
3 people: $2,144 $511
4 people: $2,584 $649

I think there is a problem here. A family of 3 making $2144 a month getting $511 a month or 27% of their income in Food Stamps. That's not saving folks from starvation. It's making them comfortable in a lesser job. And THAT is why "participation rate" has more than doubled in 10 years. It's not subsidence --- it's redistribution..

A lot of smart Liberals realize you can't be EXPANDING enrollment on programs just to win constituents AND truly help the needy at the same time. When you start putting 15% of America on Food Stamps, that's a lot less money available for the TRULY needy on MediCaid, Housing, Education, etc..

GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

That is accurate. An elderly single woman we know applied. She made less than $800.00 a month from her Social Security and she said she got a letter back that she was not eligible at all because she did not have any housing expenses.

About 5 years ago a dying Aunt was making less than $600 a month SS and got less than $200 a month SNAP. Sad how we treat the poorest among US



Of these millionaires, over 22,000 families paid less than 15 percent of income in Federal income and employee payroll taxes — and 1,470 managed to pay no federal income taxes on their million-plus-dollar incomes, according to the IRS.”
Hyping stats about the ‘Buffett Rule’

BUT WE NEED TO GUT TAXES ON THE RICHEST EVEN MORE?


"In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income."
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

OH MY GOD!!!

You mean we treated all our citizens equally and fairly ....... makes you just want to throw up, doesn't it?

EQUALLY AND FAIRLY? LMAOROG


The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.


In addition to the six who paid no tax, another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes. That's the same federal tax rate as a single worker who made $61,500 in 2009.

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million.
The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston




“Of these millionaires, over 22,000 families paid less than 15 percent of income in Federal income and employee payroll taxes — and 1,470 managed to pay no federal income taxes on their million-plus-dollar incomes, according to the IRS.”
Hyping stats about the ‘Buffett Rule’




Sure Bubs, Sure

So about Corp taxes REALLY falling on the poor as YOUR premise was, going to address that CAPITAL COVERS 82% OF THE BURDEN, YOU KNOW THE RICH?


OR ARE YOU GOING TO RUN TO YOUR SAFE SPACE AGAIN BUBS?

 

[JonKoch]

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


.

He didn't pay in jackshit. He has to be at least 65, started working before Ronnie took office. Any idea what the income cap on Social Security was before Reagan?

He said he was retired, how old is he?

Edit : just checked he says he is 66


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I retired when 59 with no pension or severance pay. I never inherited one penny and was homeless twice in my long life. When I turned 62 I took SSA early retirement because I paid into it. When signing up I asked the lady behind the bullet proof glass in the SS office, "Can I take everything out that I put in as a lump sum." She smiled and said no.

You didn't know what insurance was by the time you were 62????

 

[Gracie]

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


.

He didn't pay in jackshit. He has to be at least 65, started working before Ronnie took office. Any idea what the income cap on Social Security was before Reagan?

He said he was retired, how old is he?

Edit : just checked he says he is 66


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I retired when 59 with no pension or severance pay. I never inherited one penny and was homeless twice in my long life. When I turned 62 I took SSA early retirement because I paid into it. When signing up I asked the lady behind the bullet proof glass in the SS office, "Can I take everything out that I put in as a lump sum." She smiled and said no.

I didn't want to "retire" at 62, but was forced to. I was denied 3 times for disability even though I could not move my point finger at all...trigger finger they call it...nor could pick anything up or write or use my hands at all, nor walk very well. I asked them "would YOU hire someone that cannot use their hands? Of course not. What makes you think anyone else will?" and they just shrugged. So...here I am at almost 65 and barely making it. Homeless twice in my life too..once when I was in my 20's so it was no big deal. Again, this past September when the landlord asked for his house back although we had a verbal agreement that we could live there until we died. I should have gotten it in writing, but he was a "friend" and I took him for his word. 12 years and 9 months later and us investing our money in his house thinking it would be our house for our lifetime....he went back on his word. Not so much fun, being homeless, 65 and 70 years old, living in a car. So now all our SS goes on rent and the EBT card goes on food..or what little we can get with 170 bucks a month. The rest is for gas and taking care of our other basic needs not covered with assistance.

 

[Gracie]

I miss working. But...my hands gave out on me. So did my hip. And my feet. In short..growing old ain't for sissies.

 

[Winston]

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


.

He didn't pay in jackshit. He has to be at least 65, started working before Ronnie took office. Any idea what the income cap on Social Security was before Reagan?

He said he was retired, how old is he?

Edit : just checked he says he is 66


.

.

I retired when 59 with no pension or severance pay. I never inherited one penny and was homeless twice in my long life. When I turned 62 I took SSA early retirement because I paid into it. When signing up I asked the lady behind the bullet proof glass in the SS office, "Can I take everything out that I put in as a lump sum." She smiled and said no.

She should of took you up on it. Hell, I bet you have already pulled more money than you paid in.

 

[JonKoch]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

Great job of telling HALF the story .....

Let's see if we can figure this out.

1) Trump proposes federal tax cuts.

2) Trump proposes cutting federal programs, shifting some to states. This is done 1) to help offset the decrease in tax revenue, and 2) to transfer administration of programs to a more local, and thus more responsive, state government.

3) People receive a federal tax break.

4) The state, given its new mandates, has to assume responsibility for those programs removed from the federal budget.

5) Some states - probably, most - will raise taxes to provide those services in a manner acceptable to, and appropriate for, the people of their particular state.

6) Delivery of the product - let say, food stamps - immediately becomes more efficient by the removal of the federal bureaucracy that administers "one size fits all" programs (Notice that we currently spend $4.9 billion administering the federal program)

7) States will tailor these program to fit their particular circumstance. For example, Alabama may choose to limit food stamps to those who make less than $20K, while New York, with its higher cost of living, may choose to provide food stamps to those making less than $50K, a decision that will be reviewed, and agreed upon, by those people responsible for funding the program in their particular state.

And, this is a problem how, again?

HISTORY, Bubs say you are full of SHIT


When it Comes to Helping the Poor, Block Grants Are an Epic Failure
When it comes to helping the poor, block grants are an epic failure



How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant
How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.
Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

Red States Spent $2 Billion in 2015 to Screw the Poor

....Here's what this means: the states that refuse to expand Medicaid are denying health care to the needy and paying about $2 billion for the privilege. Try to comprehend the kind of people who do this.
Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Zzzzzzzzzz yea we don't have any poor ass blacks in red States either.





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The red state welfare queens that suck off the teet of the blue states? I'm sure you have plenty Bubs, though states like Alaska, the biggest per capita has few


A New Report Proves Republican Governed Red States Are Economic Parasites

A New Report Proves Republican Governed Red States Are Economic Parasites

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States



Most Federally Dependent States


Rank
(1 = Most Dependent)

State
Total Score
‘State Residents’ Dependency’ Rank
‘State Government’s Dependency’ Rank

1 Kentucky 76.16 6 5
2 Mississippi 75.59 7 1
3 New Mexico 73.88 3 17
4 Alabama 72.45 4 14
5 West Virginia 68.97 5 15
6 South Carolina 68.17 2 31
7 Montana 65.91 14 4
8 Tennessee 61.76 20 3
9 Maine 61.02 13 9
10 Indiana 59.18 7 23
11 Arizona 59.08 15 11
12 Louisiana 55.39 40 2
13 South Dakota 53.57 24 7
14 Missouri 52.66 31 6
15 Oregon 51.51 23 10
16 Georgia 49.81 34 8
17 Idaho 49.64 19 19
18 Vermont 49.56 18 20
19 Wyoming 48.80 26 12
20 Maryland 48.18 11 32
21 Oklahoma 47.78 21 18
22 Pennsylvania 46.15 17 30
23 Alaska 45.81 10 40
24 Rhode Island 45.05 36 16
25 Florida 43.84 27 22
26 Ohio 42.25 45 13
27 Arkansas 42.12 38 21
28 North Carolina 41.63 32 25
29 Hawaii 41.63 9 46
30 Iowa 41.38 33 26
31 Wisconsin 41.09 16 38
32 North Dakota 40.46 1 50
33 Michigan 40.43 35 27
34 New York 37.65 44 24
35 Texas 36.81 42 28
36 Washington 35.32 30 33
37 Colorado 35.20 29 34
38 Virginia 34.43 12 49
39 Nebraska 33.78 47 29
40 Utah 33.28 28 35
41 New Hampshire 31.11 37 36
42 Connecticut 27.80 22 48
43 Massachusetts 27.36 46 37
44 Nevada 26.94 25 47
45 Kansas 25.39 39 45
46 California 25.36 41 43
47 Illinois 23.96 48 41
48 New Jersey 23.84 49 39
49 Minnesota 23.09 43 44
50 Delaware 21.32 50 42

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States

 

[Virginia Mom]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


.

He didn't pay in jackshit. He has to be at least 65, started working before Ronnie took office. Any idea what the income cap on Social Security was before Reagan?

What the heck are you talking about? I started working at 16 and paid into it , it's his money, and my money when I decide to collect it. That's why we are forced to pay into it. I wasn't given a choice, were you? Damn, if every lie told on the internet, fed just one person, the whole world would be fed.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Like I said, you are a liar and a fake. Add to that my vote for you being in the good running for the biggest jerk on the board, and that is saying a lot. Sorry, you have such hate for your country and fellow Americans.

LOL lying about what?

Elderly = Takes from the working people when most of them have plenty of money in the bank.

Yeah let's keep supporting those people. For the remaining "poor" elderly, they have families that support them.

So you believe an elderly woman that worked two and three minimum wage jobs her whole life and paid into Social security is a drain on you? She collects about $800.00 a month and doesn't have money in the bank as she spent it all taking care of her children and even a couple of her grandchildren (with her minimum wage job & with no assistance as it wasn't available then in her state).

Wow, you're seriously fucked in the head and have no respect for elders. You must be under 25, because that's how long the schools have been indoctrinating the kids to think that way.

You must be over 65 because that's the only generation who thinks they deserve free healthcare and food paid for by everyone else while the national debt continues to balloon.

The world has changed since the elderly were in the work force. Gone are the factory jobs paying $25 an hour with big pensions offered when you retired.

Not sure what factories you are talking about the ones here that close a few years back paid $6 to $8 at the most for the majority of their labor.

I think there is a problem here. A family of 3 making $2144 a month getting $511 a month or 27% of their income in Food Stamps. That's not saving folks from starvation. It's making them comfortable in a lesser job. And THAT is why "participation rate" has more than doubled in 10 years. It's not subsidence --- it's redistribution..

A lot of smart Liberals realize you can't be EXPANDING enrollment on programs just to win constituents AND truly help the needy at the same time. When you start putting 15% of America on Food Stamps, that's a lot less money available for the TRULY needy on MediCaid, Housing, Education, etc..

GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

That is accurate. An elderly single woman we know applied. She made less than $800.00 a month from her Social Security and she said she got a letter back that she was not eligible at all because she did not have any housing expenses.

About 5 years ago a dying Aunt was making less than $600 a month SS and got less than $200 a month SNAP. Sad how we treat the poorest among US



Of these millionaires, over 22,000 families paid less than 15 percent of income in Federal income and employee payroll taxes — and 1,470 managed to pay no federal income taxes on their million-plus-dollar incomes, according to the IRS.”
Hyping stats about the ‘Buffett Rule’

BUT WE NEED TO GUT TAXES ON THE RICHEST EVEN MORE?


"In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income."
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

OH MY GOD!!!

You mean we treated all our citizens equally and fairly ....... makes you just want to throw up, doesn't it?

EQUALLY AND FAIRLY? LMAOROG


The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.


In addition to the six who paid no tax, another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes. That's the same federal tax rate as a single worker who made $61,500 in 2009.

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million.
The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston




“Of these millionaires, over 22,000 families paid less than 15 percent of income in Federal income and employee payroll taxes — and 1,470 managed to pay no federal income taxes on their million-plus-dollar incomes, according to the IRS.”
Hyping stats about the ‘Buffett Rule’




Sure Bubs, Sure

So about Corp taxes REALLY falling on the poor as YOUR premise was, going to address that CAPITAL COVERS 82% OF THE BURDEN, YOU KNOW THE RICH?


OR ARE YOU GOING TO RUN TO YOUR SAFE SPACE AGAIN BUBS?

A question what is 15% of 50,000?

Answer $5,500


What is 15% of 500 million dollars

Answer $55,000,000

So who pays more the person who pays five thousand five hundred dollars or the one who pays 555 million dollars


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[JonKoch]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


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Up until now, Social Security has been a windfall for many retirees: They collected far more in benefits than they shelled out in taxes.
Social Security: Many pay more in taxes than they'll get in benefits

 

[xband]

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


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He didn't pay in jackshit. He has to be at least 65, started working before Ronnie took office. Any idea what the income cap on Social Security was before Reagan?

He said he was retired, how old is he?

Edit : just checked he says he is 66


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I retired when 59 with no pension or severance pay. I never inherited one penny and was homeless twice in my long life. When I turned 62 I took SSA early retirement because I paid into it. When signing up I asked the lady behind the bullet proof glass in the SS office, "Can I take everything out that I put in as a lump sum." She smiled and said no.

No kidding they hope you due before collecting all your SS.



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I hit it big during the crash of 08 and never went to college or read Stock Market for Dummies. I paid all capital gains which was abhorrent and unjustified. Trying to get me is an exercise in futility.

 

[JonKoch]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

I probably would not qualify for food stamps because my ex was on food stamps and she said if you have a bank account you are ineligible. SS did send the letter and also said that I am owed $26 from a retirement fund that I thought I had cashed out years ago. I had to fill out a bunch of paperwork to get the $26 which was too much trouble when I had better things to do.
No more food stamps or EBT cards. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend of less than 17k per year keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheats.

SSA doesn't determine your eligibility but they do send out letters to remind some folk that they "may qualify" in case they don't know that. We have an elderly man here that qualifies that makes about the same but he decided that $16.00 a month FS/EBT wasn't worth the hassle.

I don't qualify for food stamps notwithstanding the SSA letter because I have a sizable bank account. SS did send me the letter hoping to get a bite.

"SS did send me the letter hoping to get a bite."


LMAOROG

 

[Wyatt earp]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

Great job of telling HALF the story .....

Let's see if we can figure this out.

1) Trump proposes federal tax cuts.

2) Trump proposes cutting federal programs, shifting some to states. This is done 1) to help offset the decrease in tax revenue, and 2) to transfer administration of programs to a more local, and thus more responsive, state government.

3) People receive a federal tax break.

4) The state, given its new mandates, has to assume responsibility for those programs removed from the federal budget.

5) Some states - probably, most - will raise taxes to provide those services in a manner acceptable to, and appropriate for, the people of their particular state.

6) Delivery of the product - let say, food stamps - immediately becomes more efficient by the removal of the federal bureaucracy that administers "one size fits all" programs (Notice that we currently spend $4.9 billion administering the federal program)

7) States will tailor these program to fit their particular circumstance. For example, Alabama may choose to limit food stamps to those who make less than $20K, while New York, with its higher cost of living, may choose to provide food stamps to those making less than $50K, a decision that will be reviewed, and agreed upon, by those people responsible for funding the program in their particular state.

And, this is a problem how, again?

HISTORY, Bubs say you are full of SHIT


When it Comes to Helping the Poor, Block Grants Are an Epic Failure
When it comes to helping the poor, block grants are an epic failure



How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant
How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.
Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

Red States Spent $2 Billion in 2015 to Screw the Poor

....Here's what this means: the states that refuse to expand Medicaid are denying health care to the needy and paying about $2 billion for the privilege. Try to comprehend the kind of people who do this.
Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Zzzzzzzzzz yea we don't have any poor ass blacks in red States either.





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The red state welfare queens that suck off the teet of the blue states? I'm sure you have plenty Bubs, though states like Alaska, the biggest per capita has few


A New Report Proves Republican Governed Red States Are Economic Parasites

A New Report Proves Republican Governed Red States Are Economic Parasites

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States



Most Federally Dependent States


Rank
(1 = Most Dependent)

State
Total Score
‘State Residents’ Dependency’ Rank
‘State Government’s Dependency’ Rank

1 Kentucky 76.16 6 5
2 Mississippi 75.59 7 1
3 New Mexico 73.88 3 17
4 Alabama 72.45 4 14
5 West Virginia 68.97 5 15
6 South Carolina 68.17 2 31
7 Montana 65.91 14 4
8 Tennessee 61.76 20 3
9 Maine 61.02 13 9
10 Indiana 59.18 7 23
11 Arizona 59.08 15 11
12 Louisiana 55.39 40 2
13 South Dakota 53.57 24 7
14 Missouri 52.66 31 6
15 Oregon 51.51 23 10
16 Georgia 49.81 34 8
17 Idaho 49.64 19 19
18 Vermont 49.56 18 20
19 Wyoming 48.80 26 12
20 Maryland 48.18 11 32
21 Oklahoma 47.78 21 18
22 Pennsylvania 46.15 17 30
23 Alaska 45.81 10 40
24 Rhode Island 45.05 36 16
25 Florida 43.84 27 22
26 Ohio 42.25 45 13
27 Arkansas 42.12 38 21
28 North Carolina 41.63 32 25
29 Hawaii 41.63 9 46
30 Iowa 41.38 33 26
31 Wisconsin 41.09 16 38
32 North Dakota 40.46 1 50
33 Michigan 40.43 35 27
34 New York 37.65 44 24
35 Texas 36.81 42 28
36 Washington 35.32 30 33
37 Colorado 35.20 29 34
38 Virginia 34.43 12 49
39 Nebraska 33.78 47 29
40 Utah 33.28 28 35
41 New Hampshire 31.11 37 36
42 Connecticut 27.80 22 48
43 Massachusetts 27.36 46 37
44 Nevada 26.94 25 47
45 Kansas 25.39 39 45
46 California 25.36 41 43
47 Illinois 23.96 48 41
48 New Jersey 23.84 49 39
49 Minnesota 23.09 43 44
50 Delaware 21.32 50 42

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States

Your report is bullshit States like New Mexico has Los Alamos national laboratory dumb fuck.

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[Winston]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


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He didn't pay in jackshit. He has to be at least 65, started working before Ronnie took office. Any idea what the income cap on Social Security was before Reagan?

What the heck are you talking about? I started working at 16 and paid into it , it's his money, and my money when I decide to collect it. That's why we are forced to pay into it. I wasn]t given a choice

Take 1977, the maximum income taxed by Social Security was $16,500 and the total rate was less than twelve percent with the employer paying half that. Which means even if he made a million dollars that year he paid no more than six percent of $16,500.

 

[JonKoch]

LOL lying about what?

Elderly = Takes from the working people when most of them have plenty of money in the bank.

Yeah let's keep supporting those people. For the remaining "poor" elderly, they have families that support them.

So you believe an elderly woman that worked two and three minimum wage jobs her whole life and paid into Social security is a drain on you? She collects about $800.00 a month and doesn't have money in the bank as she spent it all taking care of her children and even a couple of her grandchildren (with her minimum wage job & with no assistance as it wasn't available then in her state).

You must be over 65 because that's the only generation who thinks they deserve free healthcare and food paid for by everyone else while the national debt continues to balloon.

The world has changed since the elderly were in the work force. Gone are the factory jobs paying $25 an hour with big pensions offered when you retired.

Not sure what factories you are talking about the ones here that close a few years back paid $6 to $8 at the most for the majority of their labor.

GAWD


For example, a household of 3 with a net income of $1,500 must subtract $450 (30 percent of $1,500) from the maximum allotment for their household, which is $511 per month. They then subtract the $450 from the $511 maximum. The household will receive a food stamp allotment of $61 for the month.

How to Calculate Amount of Food Stamps



On average, SNAP households currently receive about $255 a month. The average SNAP benefit per person is about $126 per month, which works out to about $1.40 per person per meal


A Quick Guide to SNAP Eligibility and Benefits

That is accurate. An elderly single woman we know applied. She made less than $800.00 a month from her Social Security and she said she got a letter back that she was not eligible at all because she did not have any housing expenses.

About 5 years ago a dying Aunt was making less than $600 a month SS and got less than $200 a month SNAP. Sad how we treat the poorest among US



Of these millionaires, over 22,000 families paid less than 15 percent of income in Federal income and employee payroll taxes — and 1,470 managed to pay no federal income taxes on their million-plus-dollar incomes, according to the IRS.”
Hyping stats about the ‘Buffett Rule’

BUT WE NEED TO GUT TAXES ON THE RICHEST EVEN MORE?


"In other words, a person in the top 0.001 percent income bracket -- who would have an adjusted gross income of at least $62,000,000 -- pays the nearly same effective tax rate as somebody in the top 20 percent bracket who makes $85,000 in adjusted gross income."
As the rich become super-rich, they pay lower taxes. For real.

OH MY GOD!!!

You mean we treated all our citizens equally and fairly ....... makes you just want to throw up, doesn't it?

EQUALLY AND FAIRLY? LMAOROG


The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston


Six American families paid no federal income taxes in 2009 while making something on the order of $200 million each.


In addition to the six who paid no tax, another 110 families paid 15 percent or less in federal income taxes. That's the same federal tax rate as a single worker who made $61,500 in 2009.

Overall, the top 400 paid an average income tax rate of 19.9 percent, the same rate paid by a single worker who made $110,000 in 2009. The top 400 earned five times that much every day.

Just 82 of the top 400 were taxed in accord with the Buffett rule, which proposes a minimum tax of 30 percent on annual incomes greater than $1 million.
The fortunate 400: David Cay Johnston




“Of these millionaires, over 22,000 families paid less than 15 percent of income in Federal income and employee payroll taxes — and 1,470 managed to pay no federal income taxes on their million-plus-dollar incomes, according to the IRS.”
Hyping stats about the ‘Buffett Rule’




Sure Bubs, Sure

So about Corp taxes REALLY falling on the poor as YOUR premise was, going to address that CAPITAL COVERS 82% OF THE BURDEN, YOU KNOW THE RICH?


OR ARE YOU GOING TO RUN TO YOUR SAFE SPACE AGAIN BUBS?

A question what is 15% of 50,000?

Answer $5,500


What is 15% of 500 million dollars

Answer $55,000,000

So who pays more the person who pays five thousand five hundred dollars or the one who pays 55 million dollars


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Don't understand how progressive taxes work and economists measure revenues to the treasury (GDP) huh Bubba?

 

[JonKoch]

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


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He didn't pay in jackshit. He has to be at least 65, started working before Ronnie took office. Any idea what the income cap on Social Security was before Reagan?

He said he was retired, how old is he?

Edit : just checked he says he is 66


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I retired when 59 with no pension or severance pay. I never inherited one penny and was homeless twice in my long life. When I turned 62 I took SSA early retirement because I paid into it. When signing up I asked the lady behind the bullet proof glass in the SS office, "Can I take everything out that I put in as a lump sum." She smiled and said no.

No kidding they hope you due before collecting all your SS.



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I hit it big during the crash of 08 and never went to college or read Stock Market for Dummies. I paid all capital gains which was abhorrent and unjustified. Trying to get me is an exercise in futility.

Dumbass, why is capital gains taxes "abhorrent and unjustified"? You know it';s NEW MONEY right?

 

[Wyatt earp]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

President Trump's budget proposal - set to be unveiled Tuesday - will cut the food stamp program by more than 25 percent.

The 2018 budget outline would take about $193 billion out of the Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program, commonly known as food stamps, over the next 10 years. The reductions would take place through changes in who is eligible to receive assistance and additional work requirements, the AP reported.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, some 44 million people are currently served through SNAP, with the average household receiving $258 per month in benefits. The total annual cost of the food stamp program is around $70 billion a year, with 93 percent of that going directly to beneficiaries and the remaining amount for administrative, education and training costs.

Close to 70 percent of SNAP participants are in families with children; more than one-quarter are in households with seniors or people with disabilities.

In Alabama, a family of two people must earn less than $20,826 to qualify for SNAP

No more food stamps, EBT or section 8 housing. I am a family of one who is happily retired and my only income is SSA retirement and the stipend is less than 17k per year which keeps me in booze and smokes. SS sent me a letter saying that I qualify for food stamps but I wadded up the letter and threw it away. I have witnessed food stamp fraud more than once and hate cheaters.

Booze and smokes, with government money, and on Medicare. And yet you have a problem with food stamps and section eight.

He paid more then his fair share into Social Security....that was his money ..


.

Up until now, Social Security has been a windfall for many retirees: They collected far more in benefits than they shelled out in taxes.
Social Security: Many pay more in taxes than they'll get in benefits

Well no shit the Democrats fucked up with there Ponzi scheme, they put the retirement year at 65 when in the 1940s the median age of death was around 55 today it is over 70.




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[JonKoch]

Trump budget will reportedly cut food stamps by 25 percent

The above isn't the only news source I found with the same story.

Great job of telling HALF the story .....

Let's see if we can figure this out.

1) Trump proposes federal tax cuts.

2) Trump proposes cutting federal programs, shifting some to states. This is done 1) to help offset the decrease in tax revenue, and 2) to transfer administration of programs to a more local, and thus more responsive, state government.

3) People receive a federal tax break.

4) The state, given its new mandates, has to assume responsibility for those programs removed from the federal budget.

5) Some states - probably, most - will raise taxes to provide those services in a manner acceptable to, and appropriate for, the people of their particular state.

6) Delivery of the product - let say, food stamps - immediately becomes more efficient by the removal of the federal bureaucracy that administers "one size fits all" programs (Notice that we currently spend $4.9 billion administering the federal program)

7) States will tailor these program to fit their particular circumstance. For example, Alabama may choose to limit food stamps to those who make less than $20K, while New York, with its higher cost of living, may choose to provide food stamps to those making less than $50K, a decision that will be reviewed, and agreed upon, by those people responsible for funding the program in their particular state.

And, this is a problem how, again?

HISTORY, Bubs say you are full of SHIT


When it Comes to Helping the Poor, Block Grants Are an Epic Failure
When it comes to helping the poor, block grants are an epic failure



How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant
How States Use Federal and State Funds Under the TANF Block Grant


Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

In the red states, government is cheaper, which means the people who live there pay lower taxes. But they also get a lot less in return. The unemployment checks run out more quickly and the schools generally aren’t as good. Assistance with health care, child care, and housing is skimpier, if it exists at all. The result of this divergence is that one half of the country looks more and more like Scandinavia, while the other increasingly resembles a social Darwinist’s paradise.
Blue States are from Scandinavia, Red States are from Guatemala

Red States Spent $2 Billion in 2015 to Screw the Poor

....Here's what this means: the states that refuse to expand Medicaid are denying health care to the needy and paying about $2 billion for the privilege. Try to comprehend the kind of people who do this.
Red states spent $2 billion in 2015 to screw the poor

Zzzzzzzzzz yea we don't have any poor ass blacks in red States either.





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The red state welfare queens that suck off the teet of the blue states? I'm sure you have plenty Bubs, though states like Alaska, the biggest per capita has few


A New Report Proves Republican Governed Red States Are Economic Parasites

A New Report Proves Republican Governed Red States Are Economic Parasites

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States



Most Federally Dependent States


Rank
(1 = Most Dependent)

State
Total Score
‘State Residents’ Dependency’ Rank
‘State Government’s Dependency’ Rank

1 Kentucky 76.16 6 5
2 Mississippi 75.59 7 1
3 New Mexico 73.88 3 17
4 Alabama 72.45 4 14
5 West Virginia 68.97 5 15
6 South Carolina 68.17 2 31
7 Montana 65.91 14 4
8 Tennessee 61.76 20 3
9 Maine 61.02 13 9
10 Indiana 59.18 7 23
11 Arizona 59.08 15 11
12 Louisiana 55.39 40 2
13 South Dakota 53.57 24 7
14 Missouri 52.66 31 6
15 Oregon 51.51 23 10
16 Georgia 49.81 34 8
17 Idaho 49.64 19 19
18 Vermont 49.56 18 20
19 Wyoming 48.80 26 12
20 Maryland 48.18 11 32
21 Oklahoma 47.78 21 18
22 Pennsylvania 46.15 17 30
23 Alaska 45.81 10 40
24 Rhode Island 45.05 36 16
25 Florida 43.84 27 22
26 Ohio 42.25 45 13
27 Arkansas 42.12 38 21
28 North Carolina 41.63 32 25
29 Hawaii 41.63 9 46
30 Iowa 41.38 33 26
31 Wisconsin 41.09 16 38
32 North Dakota 40.46 1 50
33 Michigan 40.43 35 27
34 New York 37.65 44 24
35 Texas 36.81 42 28
36 Washington 35.32 30 33
37 Colorado 35.20 29 34
38 Virginia 34.43 12 49
39 Nebraska 33.78 47 29
40 Utah 33.28 28 35
41 New Hampshire 31.11 37 36
42 Connecticut 27.80 22 48
43 Massachusetts 27.36 46 37
44 Nevada 26.94 25 47
45 Kansas 25.39 39 45
46 California 25.36 41 43
47 Illinois 23.96 48 41
48 New Jersey 23.84 49 39
49 Minnesota 23.09 43 44
50 Delaware 21.32 50 42

2017’s Most & Least Federally Dependent States

Your report is bullshit States like New Mexico has Los Alamos national laboratory dumb fuck.




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AND? Texas has the most military bases? Your point?

http://www.ncsl.org/research/military-and-veterans-affairs/military-s-impact-on-state-economies.aspx