Trump to defund PBS/NPR.

[conserveguy877]

PBS should really have it's own money by now.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Gee.....Dumb and Dumber will do anything not to answer the question.

Clearly, the argument is won by the side that says that they are simply one more Liberal house organ, and deserve not a red cent.

 

[Dschrute3]

Personally, i don't trust Sate-Run Media in any country. That includes the US. I'm pretty sure George Soros and other filthy rich Globalist Democrats can afford to keep NPR & PBS afloat. US Taxpayers shouldn't be required to fund them anymore. It's an outdated and unjust concept. NPR & PBS can go private and survive just fine.

 

[PoliticalChic]

PBS should really have it's own money by now.

It does....but it is never enough for the Leftists.

 

[NYcarbineer]

PBS should really have it's own money by now.

It does. All of its money comes from the People and their decisions to fund it.

 

[PoliticalChic]

I have a reasonable compromise. Continue the funding for PBS, pull the plug on funding for NPR. NPR has been more militant Democrat-biased over the years. They still refuse to hire Conservative hosts for their programming. But PBS is a bit more reasonable. It's still Democrat-biased, but not as militant. It still has some redeemable programming. So there ya go, a compromise.

How about my compromise: let 'em have the money, but change their name to Pravda.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Gee.....Dumb and Dumber will do anything not to answer the question.

Clearly, the argument is won by the side that says that they are simply one more Liberal house organ, and deserve not a red cent.

The best part is you have lost this argument for 50 years and you will lose it for the next 50 years.

Go fuck yourself and we'll both feel better, Skankerella.

 

[Rustic]

NPR and PBS are only related to by socialist fuck ups....

 

[IcebergSlim]

Retard: The only thing I responded to was YOUR asinine statement that NPR is state run media.

Again you fail

"The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, created in 1967, receives approximately

15% of its annual funding from federal appropriations. In turn, the CPB, acting as an

umbrella agency, is required to spend 89 percent of the appropriations in grants to

members of Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), National Public Radio (NPR), Public

Radio International (PRI), and other affiliated public television and radio broadcasters.

The CPB has historically received two-year advanced appropriations. On June 9, 2005,

the subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, Education and Related

Agencies of the House Appropriations Committee considered the Labor ,Health and

Human Service and Related Agencies Appropriations Act for FY2006 (H.R. 3010). The

subcommittee voted to reduce CPB’s FY2006 appropriations (which had been passed

as part of the FY2004 appropriations) from $400 million to $300 million. In addition,

the subcommittee voted to eliminate advanced federal appropriations for CPB by

FY2008. On June 16, 2005, the full House Appropriations Committee voted to restore

$400 million in federal funding for CPB in FY2008; it also approved funding of $300

million for FY2006. (H.Rept. 109-143). This legislation will likely go to the floor of

the House of Representatives either June 23 or June 24. This report will be updated as

events warrant."
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Does Fox get 15% of its funds from the government?

Why not?



Soooo....who 'failed'?

FOX operates under a different model, and mandate......

Meaning 'not a government organ of opinion'?

Golly gee- you must be a trained investigator, Agent Starling!

FOX will surely settle back into its role as "government organ of opinion" now that said government is not being headed by a Muslim, and those Tramps who persecuted Roger Ailes have been purged.

Other than that, I can't think of any such "organs"....

Why does that entity deserve hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars?

Now don't run back under your rock....answer the question.

What service does it perform for government?

It doesn't....it performs a service for the Public....hence its name....

 

[Rustic]

"The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, created in 1967, receives approximately

15% of its annual funding from federal appropriations. In turn, the CPB, acting as an

umbrella agency, is required to spend 89 percent of the appropriations in grants to

members of Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), National Public Radio (NPR), Public

Radio International (PRI), and other affiliated public television and radio broadcasters.

The CPB has historically received two-year advanced appropriations. On June 9, 2005,

the subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, Education and Related

Agencies of the House Appropriations Committee considered the Labor ,Health and

Human Service and Related Agencies Appropriations Act for FY2006 (H.R. 3010). The

subcommittee voted to reduce CPB’s FY2006 appropriations (which had been passed

as part of the FY2004 appropriations) from $400 million to $300 million. In addition,

the subcommittee voted to eliminate advanced federal appropriations for CPB by

FY2008. On June 16, 2005, the full House Appropriations Committee voted to restore

$400 million in federal funding for CPB in FY2008; it also approved funding of $300

million for FY2006. (H.Rept. 109-143). This legislation will likely go to the floor of

the House of Representatives either June 23 or June 24. This report will be updated as

events warrant."
Page Not Found



Does Fox get 15% of its funds from the government?

Why not?



Soooo....who 'failed'?

FOX operates under a different model, and mandate......

Meaning 'not a government organ of opinion'?

Golly gee- you must be a trained investigator, Agent Starling!

FOX will surely settle back into its role as "government organ of opinion" now that said government is not being headed by a Muslim, and those Tramps who persecuted Roger Ailes have been purged.

Other than that, I can't think of any such "organs"....

Why does that entity deserve hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars?

Now don't run back under your rock....answer the question.

What service does it perform for government?

It doesn't....it performs a service for the Public....hence its name....

Only the public it agrees with...

 

[Yousaidwhat]

Historically, the first order of business for an authoritarian government is to neutralize the media and press. That is what trump is doing by attacking the media. The results will be that no one is able to decipher what is real news and what is not. The government gains complete control of what the public is allowed to know. Even provable facts are questioned and left in doubt.

I'm sure that the majority on this board, and coast to coast, have been attacking the Media long before Trump came along.

The cost of replacing damaged televisions may be in the millions.

 

[sartre play]

So I guess the ten million people who turned on and viewed Downton don't count

The question is not if it will break the government. The question is if the government should be in the business of funding television in the first place and particularly if the government should be funding news.

The clear answer here is a resounding no IMHO. There is no reason for the government to be funding news or entertainment.

Or education? Do you believe we are a democratic republic? A nation whose population votes to elect their representatives fits that definition, notwithstanding the myth and meme that the United States is not a democracy.

That said, a democracy needs an informed and educated population to be and remain a nation of The People, by the People and for the people. Both NPR and PBS provide more than news and entertainment - they provide many things and most are informative, educational, substantive and relevant to the lives of voters and soon to be voters (i.e. minors).

That seems to be your perspective. And if you really believe that, they take donations.

None of that means the government itself should be funding these activities.

The POTUS installs the Board of Directors, and is limited to installing more than five (of the nine directors) from his own party. David Koch is a supporter of NOVA for the reasons I spelled out in my post above. Democracy requires a learned/informed population, and the way we are going - all partisan all of the time - is unhealthy and a threat to The Union.

One thing democracy doesn't need is government propaganda, and that's all PBS is. Your theory that people can't learn without government constantly spewing lies at them is obviously flawed.

a) how do you know what is broadcast on PBS

b) how do you know that it is "lies"?

OK, will look up common good,

 

[PoliticalChic]

"The Corporation for Public Broadcasting, created in 1967, receives approximately

15% of its annual funding from federal appropriations. In turn, the CPB, acting as an

umbrella agency, is required to spend 89 percent of the appropriations in grants to

members of Public Broadcasting Service (PBS), National Public Radio (NPR), Public

Radio International (PRI), and other affiliated public television and radio broadcasters.

The CPB has historically received two-year advanced appropriations. On June 9, 2005,

the subcommittee on Labor, Health and Human Services, Education and Related

Agencies of the House Appropriations Committee considered the Labor ,Health and

Human Service and Related Agencies Appropriations Act for FY2006 (H.R. 3010). The

subcommittee voted to reduce CPB’s FY2006 appropriations (which had been passed

as part of the FY2004 appropriations) from $400 million to $300 million. In addition,

the subcommittee voted to eliminate advanced federal appropriations for CPB by

FY2008. On June 16, 2005, the full House Appropriations Committee voted to restore

$400 million in federal funding for CPB in FY2008; it also approved funding of $300

million for FY2006. (H.Rept. 109-143). This legislation will likely go to the floor of

the House of Representatives either June 23 or June 24. This report will be updated as

events warrant."
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Does Fox get 15% of its funds from the government?

Why not?



Soooo....who 'failed'?

FOX operates under a different model, and mandate......

Meaning 'not a government organ of opinion'?

Golly gee- you must be a trained investigator, Agent Starling!

FOX will surely settle back into its role as "government organ of opinion" now that said government is not being headed by a Muslim, and those Tramps who persecuted Roger Ailes have been purged.

Other than that, I can't think of any such "organs"....

Why does that entity deserve hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars?

Now don't run back under your rock....answer the question.

What service does it perform for government?

It doesn't....it performs a service for the Public....hence its name....

Even you know that that is nonsense.

It performs the same service as Fox, and should get the very same amount of federal tax money.

 

[Camp]

Historically, the first order of business for an authoritarian government is to neutralize the media and press. That is what trump is doing by attacking the media. The results will be that no one is able to decipher what is real news and what is not. The government gains complete control of what the public is allowed to know. Even provable facts are questioned and left in doubt.

Let us know when he starts doing that.

He did it his whole nomination campaign and is still doing it at President.

 

[IcebergSlim]

FOX operates under a different model, and mandate......

Meaning 'not a government organ of opinion'?

Golly gee- you must be a trained investigator, Agent Starling!

FOX will surely settle back into its role as "government organ of opinion" now that said government is not being headed by a Muslim, and those Tramps who persecuted Roger Ailes have been purged.

Other than that, I can't think of any such "organs"....

Why does that entity deserve hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars?

Now don't run back under your rock....answer the question.

What service does it perform for government?

It doesn't....it performs a service for the Public....hence its name....

Even you know that that is nonsense.

It performs the same service as Fox, and should get the very same amount of federal tax money.

No......FOX is Infotainment for the purpose of selling advertising....

 

[westwall]

Historically, the first order of business for an authoritarian government is to neutralize the media and press. That is what trump is doing by attacking the media. The results will be that no one is able to decipher what is real news and what is not. The government gains complete control of what the public is allowed to know. Even provable facts are questioned and left in doubt.

Let us know when he starts doing that.

He did it his whole nomination campaign and is still doing it at President.

Really? He's used the power of government to silence his critics? Seems to me ignoring them and not answering their questions doesn't quite measure up to your claims.

 

[IcebergSlim]

FOX will surely settle back into its role as "government organ of opinion" now that said government is not being headed by a Muslim, and those Tramps who persecuted Roger Ailes have been purged.

Other than that, I can't think of any such "organs"....

Why does that entity deserve hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars?

Now don't run back under your rock....answer the question.

What service does it perform for government?

It doesn't....it performs a service for the Public....hence its name....

Even you know that that is nonsense.

It performs the same service as Fox, and should get the very same amount of federal tax money.

No......FOX is Infotainment for the purpose of selling advertising....

Shuck and jive all you like....you've finally found a niche around here: ersatz clown.

See if they'll let you use a harlequin as your avi.

FOX and PBS do not perform the same service....

The audience of the former wants to be indulged, that of the latter, informed.....

 

[sartre play]

I still don't know why any one would want to defund an educational station, just the non violent kids programs should be enough to keep it going, who wants to kill big bird.

 

[westwall]

Why does that entity deserve hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars?

Now don't run back under your rock....answer the question.

What service does it perform for government?

It doesn't....it performs a service for the Public....hence its name....

Even you know that that is nonsense.

It performs the same service as Fox, and should get the very same amount of federal tax money.

No......FOX is Infotainment for the purpose of selling advertising....

Shuck and jive all you like....you've finally found a niche around here: ersatz clown.

See if they'll let you use a harlequin as your avi.

FOX and PBS do not perform the same service....

The audience of the former wants to be indulged, that of the latter, informed.....

I've listened to NPR for several decades now and yes they do a good job of information dissemination. However, over the last 20 years or so they have veered ever more completely toward propaganda. Pretty much every climate change report they give is remarkably devoid of fact, but very, very long on opinion. That's not news, that's propaganda, pure and simple.

 

[kyzr]

We need to stop ALL unnecessary spending, including ALL Foreign Aid.