Trump Was the Biggest Loser Last Night and That's a Good Thing

[Oddball]

Looks like Nevada is going to Laxalt, who's currently leading by 2.7%. Georgia is still too close to call, as is Wisconsin. In Georgia, Warnock is ahead by less than a point, and in Wisconsin Johnson is ahead by just over a point...

The deliberately delayed ballots in AZ are breaking nearly 2:1 for Lake and Masters.

 

[Billo_Really]

As I said two months ago, I wanted Republicans to lose the midterms. not because I want Democrats to win or that I support their agenda, but because it's necessary for Trumpism to be destroyed in order to save the Republican Party. I'm fairly pleased with last night's results. The Republicans look on track to eek out just a small majority in the House, far less than expectations, and at best they might be able to hold a 50/50 Senate again. Either Nevada or Arizona will have to flip to counter Pennsylvania, assuming Ron Johnson hangs on in Wisconsin, and both are looking iffy right now. Dems may end up with 51 seats when all is said and done.

The Dobbs ruling played a major role in this defeat. Women and Gen Z voters were out in historical force infuriated by the abortion ruling. That definitely blunted any red wave, but at the end of the day candidate quality matters and Trump is solely to blame for that. His MAGA picks crashed and burned last night. New Hampshire Senate, Pennsylvania Senate and Governor, Wisconsin Governor, several House endorsements, all very winnable races, Trump racked up loss after loss after loss. Even his rare winners, like J.D. Vance in Ohio, had to struggle to win in a race that should have been a cakewalk.

Voters sent a clear message to the Republican Party. Trumpism is poison. They rejected the extreme MAGA conspiratorial election deniers at nearly every turn. This, in one of the best electoral environments Republicans had in several election cycles. Contrast that with candidates who rejected Trump, like Brian Kemp and Chris Sununu, who had no problem winning their elections, while their Senate counterparts crapped the bed. Even in some races that Republicans came up short, the ones who rejected Trumpism overperformed their district environment. Hung Cao came within a few points of winning VA-10, a district in northern Virginia that Biden won by 18 points. Allan Fung came within three points of winning Rhode Island's Second District, a district Biden won by almost 30. Lee Zeldin got 46% of the vote in New York in his gubernatorial bid, the best performance by a Republican in New York in two decades, by keeping Trump out of the picture and sticking to a message of cleaning up crime plaguing NYC. Zeldin's excellent performance might end up dragging several Republican House candidates in New York over the finish line. Ironically, the GOP may take the House majority because of New York of all states. Compare these results with MAGA loudmouth Lauren Bobert, who is on the cusp of losing her seat in a safe Republican district in western Colorado.

How anybody could still want Trump as their great white hope in 2024 is pretty astonishing at this point considering what Ron DeSantis did in Florida last night. This was the only state that saw a red wave. DeSantis is on target to win reelection with almost 60% of the vote. He won Miami, Tampa, and Jacksonville, all traditional Democratic areas. It seems pretty clear that the path forward for the Republican Party lies in Ron DeSantis as opposed to the toxicity of Donald Trump and yet, despite this, Trump's lawyer had the arrogance to send DeSantis a finely worded threat to stay out of the presidential race.

It's time for Trump supporters to accept the fact that they got lucky in 2016. Two very unpopular candidates ran for president and Trump just managed to squeak out enough votes in key states to win the Electoral College, largely due to Clinton's missteps. Since then he's presided over, now, three election cycles in which the Republican Party has received a thumping. It's more than clear that DeSantis is the path forward for 2024 and Trump is the path of electoral disaster. All over social media today a lot of conservative pundits are finally admitting this. A lot of money and support will undoubtedly shift from Trump to DeSantis in the coming months and the party apparatus will do everything they can to stop Trump in his tracks. The question is how many of the Trump faithful will manage to break themselves out of his hypnotic spell.

Don't expect Trump to go gracefully, though. This is and has always been about his ego. He's going to kick and scream and cry and do everything he can to sabotage the party if he doesn't get his way. The next two years are going to be very bumpy in the GOP.

You think it's possible for you to be a little more succinct? Jesus, talk about long whinded...!

 

[Lastamender]

The deliberately delayed ballots in AZ are breaking nearly 2:1 for Lake and Masters.

What makes anyone think the fraud machine put together for 2020 has been dismantled? It hasn't.

 

[OldFlame]

Oh....you want the government to take over a business? How communist of you.

No, I want the D's to do something about the profiteering capitalist pigs, but they sit with their thumbs up their asses doing nothing but running their mouths. You support them, why aren't they doing anything to stop prices from going up? Let's hear it.

 

[Lastamender]

You think it's possible for you to be a little more succinct? Jesus, talk about long whinded...!

Hey, that moron worked hard on that post.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Cruz/Christie 2024

Christie can never run for anything as a Republican because he is a RINO and every Republican knows it.

My money is on DeSantis.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Damn, that's a lot of bloviating but yeah, "Trump needs to go away 'cause FL has showed us the way."

I'll also say that the red or swing states states need to get referendums on abortion "rights" on 2023 ballots ASAP.....It was approved in three states (maybe four) last evening.

It's something America wants to keep in place (with some guardrails) so go ahead and take away the issue from the dems least it bites us in the ass again in '24.....Piss on the bible thumpers.

What will you do about the number of states who do NOT have referendums in their Constitution or elections in 2023?

 

[OldFlame]

You are so angry. You really need to calm down.

Hmmm. Still no answer..

 

[Oddball]

What makes anyone think the fraud machine put together for 2020 has been dismantled? It hasn't.

What's currently happening in AZ is an incompetence machine.

 

[Lastamender]

What's currently happening in AZ is an incompetence machine.

Whatever it is absolute transparency is what we need. No stalling, no excuses.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Looks like Nevada is going to Laxalt, who's currently leading by 2.7%. Georgia is still too close to call, as is Wisconsin. In Georgia, Warnock is ahead by less than a point, and in Wisconsin Johnson is ahead by just over a point...

Wisconsin has been called for Johnson. That was an example of poor candidate choice on the Democrats side.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

As I said two months ago, I wanted Republicans to lose the midterms. not because I want Democrats to win or that I support their agenda, but because it's necessary for Trumpism to be destroyed in order to save the Republican Party. I'm fairly pleased with last night's results. The Republicans look on track to eek out just a small majority in the House, far less than expectations, and at best they might be able to hold a 50/50 Senate again. Either Nevada or Arizona will have to flip to counter Pennsylvania, assuming Ron Johnson hangs on in Wisconsin, and both are looking iffy right now. Dems may end up with 51 seats when all is said and done.

The Dobbs ruling played a major role in this defeat. Women and Gen Z voters were out in historical force infuriated by the abortion ruling. That definitely blunted any red wave, but at the end of the day candidate quality matters and Trump is solely to blame for that. His MAGA picks crashed and burned last night. New Hampshire Senate, Pennsylvania Senate and Governor, Wisconsin Governor, several House endorsements, all very winnable races, Trump racked up loss after loss after loss. Even his rare winners, like J.D. Vance in Ohio, had to struggle to win in a race that should have been a cakewalk.

Voters sent a clear message to the Republican Party. Trumpism is poison. They rejected the extreme MAGA conspiratorial election deniers at nearly every turn. This, in one of the best electoral environments Republicans had in several election cycles. Contrast that with candidates who rejected Trump, like Brian Kemp and Chris Sununu, who had no problem winning their elections, while their Senate counterparts crapped the bed. Even in some races that Republicans came up short, the ones who rejected Trumpism overperformed their district environment. Hung Cao came within a few points of winning VA-10, a district in northern Virginia that Biden won by 18 points. Allan Fung came within three points of winning Rhode Island's Second District, a district Biden won by almost 30. Lee Zeldin got 46% of the vote in New York in his gubernatorial bid, the best performance by a Republican in New York in two decades, by keeping Trump out of the picture and sticking to a message of cleaning up crime plaguing NYC. Zeldin's excellent performance might end up dragging several Republican House candidates in New York over the finish line. Ironically, the GOP may take the House majority because of New York of all states. Compare these results with MAGA loudmouth Lauren Bobert, who is on the cusp of losing her seat in a safe Republican district in western Colorado.

How anybody could still want Trump as their great white hope in 2024 is pretty astonishing at this point considering what Ron DeSantis did in Florida last night. This was the only state that saw a red wave. DeSantis is on target to win reelection with almost 60% of the vote. He won Miami, Tampa, and Jacksonville, all traditional Democratic areas. It seems pretty clear that the path forward for the Republican Party lies in Ron DeSantis as opposed to the toxicity of Donald Trump and yet, despite this, Trump's lawyer had the arrogance to send DeSantis a finely worded threat to stay out of the presidential race.

It's time for Trump supporters to accept the fact that they got lucky in 2016. Two very unpopular candidates ran for president and Trump just managed to squeak out enough votes in key states to win the Electoral College, largely due to Clinton's missteps. Since then he's presided over, now, three election cycles in which the Republican Party has received a thumping. It's more than clear that DeSantis is the path forward for 2024 and Trump is the path of electoral disaster. All over social media today a lot of conservative pundits are finally admitting this. A lot of money and support will undoubtedly shift from Trump to DeSantis in the coming months and the party apparatus will do everything they can to stop Trump in his tracks. The question is how many of the Trump faithful will manage to break themselves out of his hypnotic spell.

Don't expect Trump to go gracefully, though. This is and has always been about his ego. He's going to kick and scream and cry and do everything he can to sabotage the party if he doesn't get his way. The next two years are going to be very bumpy in the GOP.

That’s because you like creating hardships for others just to stoke your own ego.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Whenever he clusters he flails about doing and saying stupid shit until he can change the subject. I wonder what he will do in the coming days.

You forgot to quote again!

We have no idea who you are talking about, dumbass!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Looks like Nevada is going to Laxalt, who's currently leading by 2.7%. Georgia is still too close to call, as is Wisconsin. In Georgia, Warnock is ahead by less than a point, and in Wisconsin Johnson is ahead by just over a point...

Johnson won Wisconsin.

 

[Rocko]

DeSantis refuses to get down in the mud with Trump and you see that as a bad thing?

I didn’t say that. If DeSantis is going to run he needs to stand up to Trump. So far I haven’t seen signs that he’s doing that.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

I didn’t say that. If DeSantis is going to run he needs to stand up to Trump. So far I haven’t seen signs that he’s doing that.

Stand up? First you need to find a policy disagreement for them to comment on.

 

[Rocko]

Stand up? First you need to find a policy disagreement for them to comment on.

Meanwhile Trump continue to throws barbs at DeSantis as DeSantis does nothing

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Meanwhile Trump continue to throws barbs at DeSantis as DeSantis does nothing

You obviously missed the point. DeSantis is taking the high road, and I hope he continues to do so. Trump will lose a lot of people's support if he does not knock off the stupid "throwing barbs" at DeSantis.

Didn't he just call him "Ron DeSanctimonious"? Not a good tactic.

 

[RoshawnMarkwees]

I didn’t say that. If DeSantis is going to run he needs to stand up to Trump. So far I haven’t seen signs that he’s doing that.

He’ll cross that bridge only when necessary.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

He’ll cross that bridge only when necessary.

Absolutely right! Why should he go into a battle of wits with someone who is unarmed?