Trump Was the Biggest Loser Last Night and That's a Good Thing

[Rocko]

You obviously missed the point. DeSantis is taking the high road, and I hope he continues to do so. Trump will lose a lot of people's support if he does not knock off the stupid "throwing barbs" at DeSantis.

Nah. Taking the high road used to score you political points. Not anymore.

 

[theHawk]

As I said two months ago, I wanted Republicans to lose the midterms. not because I want Democrats to win or that I support their agenda, but because it's necessary for Trumpism to be destroyed in order to save the Republican Party. I'm fairly pleased with last night's results. The Republicans look on track to eek out just a small majority in the House, far less than expectations, and at best they might be able to hold a 50/50 Senate again. Either Nevada or Arizona will have to flip to counter Pennsylvania, assuming Ron Johnson hangs on in Wisconsin, and both are looking iffy right now. Dems may end up with 51 seats when all is said and done.

The Dobbs ruling played a major role in this defeat. Women and Gen Z voters were out in historical force infuriated by the abortion ruling. That definitely blunted any red wave, but at the end of the day candidate quality matters and Trump is solely to blame for that. His MAGA picks crashed and burned last night. New Hampshire Senate, Pennsylvania Senate and Governor, Wisconsin Governor, several House endorsements, all very winnable races, Trump racked up loss after loss after loss. Even his rare winners, like J.D. Vance in Ohio, had to struggle to win in a race that should have been a cakewalk.

Voters sent a clear message to the Republican Party. Trumpism is poison. They rejected the extreme MAGA conspiratorial election deniers at nearly every turn. This, in one of the best electoral environments Republicans had in several election cycles. Contrast that with candidates who rejected Trump, like Brian Kemp and Chris Sununu, who had no problem winning their elections, while their Senate counterparts crapped the bed. Even in some races that Republicans came up short, the ones who rejected Trumpism overperformed their district environment. Hung Cao came within a few points of winning VA-10, a district in northern Virginia that Biden won by 18 points. Allan Fung came within three points of winning Rhode Island's Second District, a district Biden won by almost 30. Lee Zeldin got 46% of the vote in New York in his gubernatorial bid, the best performance by a Republican in New York in two decades, by keeping Trump out of the picture and sticking to a message of cleaning up crime plaguing NYC. Zeldin's excellent performance might end up dragging several Republican House candidates in New York over the finish line. Ironically, the GOP may take the House majority because of New York of all states. Compare these results with MAGA loudmouth Lauren Bobert, who is on the cusp of losing her seat in a safe Republican district in western Colorado.

How anybody could still want Trump as their great white hope in 2024 is pretty astonishing at this point considering what Ron DeSantis did in Florida last night. This was the only state that saw a red wave. DeSantis is on target to win reelection with almost 60% of the vote. He won Miami, Tampa, and Jacksonville, all traditional Democratic areas. It seems pretty clear that the path forward for the Republican Party lies in Ron DeSantis as opposed to the toxicity of Donald Trump and yet, despite this, Trump's lawyer had the arrogance to send DeSantis a finely worded threat to stay out of the presidential race.

It's time for Trump supporters to accept the fact that they got lucky in 2016. Two very unpopular candidates ran for president and Trump just managed to squeak out enough votes in key states to win the Electoral College, largely due to Clinton's missteps. Since then he's presided over, now, three election cycles in which the Republican Party has received a thumping. It's more than clear that DeSantis is the path forward for 2024 and Trump is the path of electoral disaster. All over social media today a lot of conservative pundits are finally admitting this. A lot of money and support will undoubtedly shift from Trump to DeSantis in the coming months and the party apparatus will do everything they can to stop Trump in his tracks. The question is how many of the Trump faithful will manage to break themselves out of his hypnotic spell.

Don't expect Trump to go gracefully, though. This is and has always been about his ego. He's going to kick and scream and cry and do everything he can to sabotage the party if he doesn't get his way. The next two years are going to be very bumpy in the GOP.

Okay. So all those candidates would had done better without Trump holding rallies for them?

I think Trump fucking up picking Oz, but other than that the GOP needed to get its RINOs kicked out.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Nah. Taking the high road used to score you political points. Not anymore.

Wrong. Why do you think the Never-Trumpers hate him? It is mostly behavior, because it damn sure isn't policy.

Trump will lose me if he continues his juvenile attacks on DeSantis, who isn't even officially a candidate yet, just like he is not.

 

[Rocko]

Wrong. Why do you think the Never-Trumpers hate him? It is mostly behavior, because it damn sure isn't policy.

Trump will lose me if he continues his juvenile attacks on DeSantis, who isn't even officially a candidate yet, just like he is not.

Trump hasn’t lost you by now? I’m a never Trumper, and yeah he’s a childish asshole, but he also continues peddling in dangerous conspiracy theories, and that’s the main reason why I don’t like him.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Trump hasn’t lost you by now? I’m a never Trumper, and yeah he’s a childish asshole, but he also continues peddling in dangerous conspiracy theories, and that’s the main reason why I don’t like him.

Well, nobody's perfect.

Tell me which Trump policy you disagreed with, please!

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

As I said two months ago, I wanted Republicans to lose the midterms. not because I want Democrats to win or that I support their agenda, but because it's necessary for Trumpism to be destroyed in order to save the Republican Party. I'm fairly pleased with last night's results. The Republicans look on track to eek out just a small majority in the House, far less than expectations, and at best they might be able to hold a 50/50 Senate again. Either Nevada or Arizona will have to flip to counter Pennsylvania, assuming Ron Johnson hangs on in Wisconsin, and both are looking iffy right now. Dems may end up with 51 seats when all is said and done.

The Dobbs ruling played a major role in this defeat. Women and Gen Z voters were out in historical force infuriated by the abortion ruling. That definitely blunted any red wave, but at the end of the day candidate quality matters and Trump is solely to blame for that. His MAGA picks crashed and burned last night. New Hampshire Senate, Pennsylvania Senate and Governor, Wisconsin Governor, several House endorsements, all very winnable races, Trump racked up loss after loss after loss. Even his rare winners, like J.D. Vance in Ohio, had to struggle to win in a race that should have been a cakewalk.

Voters sent a clear message to the Republican Party. Trumpism is poison. They rejected the extreme MAGA conspiratorial election deniers at nearly every turn. This, in one of the best electoral environments Republicans had in several election cycles. Contrast that with candidates who rejected Trump, like Brian Kemp and Chris Sununu, who had no problem winning their elections, while their Senate counterparts crapped the bed. Even in some races that Republicans came up short, the ones who rejected Trumpism overperformed their district environment. Hung Cao came within a few points of winning VA-10, a district in northern Virginia that Biden won by 18 points. Allan Fung came within three points of winning Rhode Island's Second District, a district Biden won by almost 30. Lee Zeldin got 46% of the vote in New York in his gubernatorial bid, the best performance by a Republican in New York in two decades, by keeping Trump out of the picture and sticking to a message of cleaning up crime plaguing NYC. Zeldin's excellent performance might end up dragging several Republican House candidates in New York over the finish line. Ironically, the GOP may take the House majority because of New York of all states. Compare these results with MAGA loudmouth Lauren Bobert, who is on the cusp of losing her seat in a safe Republican district in western Colorado.

How anybody could still want Trump as their great white hope in 2024 is pretty astonishing at this point considering what Ron DeSantis did in Florida last night. This was the only state that saw a red wave. DeSantis is on target to win reelection with almost 60% of the vote. He won Miami, Tampa, and Jacksonville, all traditional Democratic areas. It seems pretty clear that the path forward for the Republican Party lies in Ron DeSantis as opposed to the toxicity of Donald Trump and yet, despite this, Trump's lawyer had the arrogance to send DeSantis a finely worded threat to stay out of the presidential race.

It's time for Trump supporters to accept the fact that they got lucky in 2016. Two very unpopular candidates ran for president and Trump just managed to squeak out enough votes in key states to win the Electoral College, largely due to Clinton's missteps. Since then he's presided over, now, three election cycles in which the Republican Party has received a thumping. It's more than clear that DeSantis is the path forward for 2024 and Trump is the path of electoral disaster. All over social media today a lot of conservative pundits are finally admitting this. A lot of money and support will undoubtedly shift from Trump to DeSantis in the coming months and the party apparatus will do everything they can to stop Trump in his tracks. The question is how many of the Trump faithful will manage to break themselves out of his hypnotic spell.

Don't expect Trump to go gracefully, though. This is and has always been about his ego. He's going to kick and scream and cry and do everything he can to sabotage the party if he doesn't get his way. The next two years are going to be very bumpy in the GOP.

You cant get more stupid than the Democrat voter. It is the Democrats who have made gasoline unaffordable. It is the Democrats who made food unaffordable. It is Democrats who made healthcare unaffordable, yet the dipshits would rather chew their noses off their faces by voting Democrat than trying to make their lives better by moving away from stupidity.

<------Yes, Democrats really are this stupid.

I thank the Democrat women who abort their babies in the hundreds of thousands every year, because they stop that stupid gene from spreading. They just cant do it fast enough...

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

It's all they care about is power and keeping it and they will lie, cheat, steal and kill to keep it

That is what Marxists do....

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

I want D's to keep winning, when the crash comes, there will be no one left to blame but them and their terrible policies. I hope they do control the Senate, let's make them put their money where their mouth is, I want to see this utopia they keep promising.

Secession Is in Season

They can have their Rainbow Bobblehead Bubblewrap in a separate Blue State country. Now, as never before, it's time to secede from this tarbaby union.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Without question the poisons being pushed, the open border and the lax laws are a major issue in some states. I support good, honest police and wish the most accountability for bad apples so my opinion on policing isn't linear, I can only speak of Canadian abuses of which I am aware.

You also can't have a guy who shoots multiple people out on bail the next day, that's insanity.

The open borders and the nixxing of the drilling for oil has been one of the major factors for inflation. Over 3 million diseased illegals have crossed the southern border in under two years, thus they use up resources that should of been for US citizens. But the Marxists just bury their head deeper into their anuses.

 

[Rocko]

Well, nobody's perfect.

Tell me which Trump policy you disagreed with, please!

Why do you care? I disagreed with his trade policy and some of his foreign policy decisions. It’s not policy that turned me off to the guy. It’s the constant lying, even when it wasn’t necessary. The guy took lying to the next level. And his supporters constantly eat up his lies. We’re at a point where no one can agree on facts. Trump gave us more division.

Are you a Trump supporter? I noticed you didn’t answer the question. You’re probably embarrassed to say you are, which is a good thing.

 

[Mikeoxenormous]

Do something about it idiot!!! Your party is in control, why haven't they nationalized the oil industry yet?? Can they do anything right?

Uhm...No.

 

[Lastamender]

Now comes the part where they all claim that their elections were stolen.

The glorious sound of MAGA conspiracy theorists whining is glorious. Let’s all listen.

What makes you think the Democratic fraud machine has disbanded? It is alive and well. Many suspicious spikes in votes just like in 2020. And just like 2020 they will be denied and never investigated.

 

[OldFlame]

Secession Is in Season

They can have their Rainbow Bobblehead Bubblewrap in a separate Blue State country. Now, as never before, it's time to secede from this tarbaby union.

From your lips to God's ears. Atlas Shrugged.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Why do you care? I disagreed with his trade policy and some of his foreign policy decisions. It’s not policy that turned me off to the guy. It’s the constant lying, even when it wasn’t necessary. The guy took lying to the next level. And his supporters constantly eat up his lies. We’re at a point where no one can agree on facts. Trump gave us more division.

Are you a Trump supporter? I noticed you didn’t answer the question. You’re probably embarrassed to say you are, which is a good thing.

What did you disagree with about his trade policies and foreign policies? You have no clue, do you?

As a liar, Trump is a piker compared to any libtard.

I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, yes, because I am NOT stupid.

Being a Never-Trumper and voting for a Dem or third party is the ultimate in stupid. Sorry, if the truth hurts!

 

[Rust_Cohle]

What makes you think the Democratic fraud machine has disbanded? It is alive and well. Many suspicious spikes in votes just like in 2020. And just like 2020 they will be denied and never investigated.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Thanks Tommy! I sort of t

I can't predict how he will handle that?

Rally at the Rubicon

Trump will deal with that the same way Julius Caesar did with the jealous decadents in the Roman Senate. I just read that rendezvous originally meant "a place for assembling of troops."

 

[Lastamender]

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These cheaters are too dumb to understand a graph.

 

[Rocko]

What did you disagree with about his trade policies and foreign policies? You have no clue, do you?

As a liar, Trump is a piker compared to any libtard.

I voted for Trump in 2016 and 2020, yes, because I am NOT stupid.

Being a Never-Trumper and voting for a Dem or third party is the ultimate in stupid. Sorry, if the truth hurts!

Tell me one politician that has lied more than Trump? You saying that just proves you’re full of shit.

 

[Lastamender]

Tell me one politician that has lied more than Trump? You saying that just proves you’re full of shit.

Biden.

 

[Rocko]

Biden.

Trump lies way more Biden, and is dumber