Trumpsters, please don't read this

[Mac1958]

You got it all wrong, Mac. God called President Trump who knows the ways of the Demmies and has the courage to do right by the American people and not the United Nations BLOC. (Bad League Of Creepsisters)

And your thoughts as laid out by the Conservative Review?
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Why are you asking Mac? The OP of your thread was to ask all us conservatives to PLEASE NOT READ THIS. And I have tried to comply. Your posts are bad enough to see where you are going.

Not to worry. I'm not expecting honest or informed answers here.
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So far you've done a great job at holding up your end. You invite conservatives here to NOT read an article you post then act both surprised and disappointed when they give you the honest answers you both knew they would give but didn't want to hear.

And you keep contributing.

Where do you get the idea that I don't want to hear them? I'm getting exactly what I expected.

If you're this traumatized, stop reading the thread.
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[Vastator]

The Conservative Review isn't playing along. Good for them. Anyone who brings up Trump's exploding debt and flagging economy are immediately mocked by his obedient Trumpsters, but fortunately there are still some Conservatives who are not willing to lie and spin for him.

But I know, I know. The Trumpsters don't care.

Trump can’t be both the president of growth and the president of debt

Earlier today, the Bureau of Economic Analysis announced that the economy had grown just 2.1 percent during the second quarter of this year (ending June 30). It also revised Q4 of 2018 down to just 1.1 percent, which now means that growth during the 12 months ending Q4 of 2018 was only 2.5 percent, not 3 percent as previously thought. This means that the U.S. economy has now gone 14 years without a year-over-year growth of 3 percent. It’s been 19 years since we’ve hit 4 percent, which was during 1997-2000.

While the numbers don’t portend a coming recession, it is highly unusual for us to go for 16 consecutive months with unemployment below 4 percent and 43 months below 5 percent, yet never attain 3 or 4 percent annual GDP growth. In fact, that has never happened before. During the late 1990s, the unemployment rate ranged from 5.3 percent to 3.9 percent – not even as good as today’s 3.7 percent – yet GDP growth was over 4 percent. Ditto for the late 1960s, when we saw years of 6 percent growth. During the mid 1980s, we saw this growth even with higher unemployment rates.

The debt is not just a problem for future generations in terms of a fiscal cost that will be borne by taxpayers. The exclusive focus on the future is what has fostered the Louis XV mentality of “after me, the deluge.” Let’s face it, we are a nation that doesn’t care about the future of our children. What is missing from the discussion is that the debt is permanently weighing down economic growth now.

Let’s peek into the numbers behind today’s topline GDP report. GDP comprises personal consumption expenditures, gross private domestic investment, government spending, and net exports. Seventy percent of the equation is consumption, and the robust 4.3 percent growth in consumption this quarter is a big part of what is keeping us even at 2.1 percent growth. This is not artificial and is good news. Consumption is a sign of a healthy job market, with more people earning money, as well as the tax cuts putting more cash in people’s pockets to spend. No matter whether our economy is fully free market or quasi-socialist, whenever there is more money in people’s pockets, these numbers will go up. We are now in a boom period, and the numbers are good.

But what else is propping up the number? Government spending! Gross government spending, which accounts for about 17.5 percent of the GDP pie, spiked 5 percent. Non-defense spending rose by 15.9 percent!
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The amount of debt our nation has amassed can only ever be eliminated through the elimination of our debtors.

 

[Muhammed]

So how does this relate to your hardcore partisanship and TDS affliction? Please explain

I can understand the clumsy attempt at deflection.

Two pretty weak shots here so far.

Anyone else?
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Your pathetic concession is accepted.

 

[toobfreak]

Trumpsters, please don't read this
I was just asking you to comment on the actual article actually addressed in the OP.
Sorry about that.

Dude, you need to get back on your meds. You want us to comment on an article you don't want us to even read?

 

[Mac1958]

The amount of debt our nation has amassed can only ever be eliminated through the elimination of our debtors.

Now THERE'S an idea!

 

[Mac1958]

Trumpsters, please don't read this
I was just asking you to comment on the actual article actually addressed in the OP.
Sorry about that.

Dude, you need to get back on your meds. You want us to comment on an article you don't want us to even read?

Okay, back on my meds I go! Thanks!
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[Mac1958]

Well, this has been at precisely the intellectual level I imagined.

 

[toobfreak]

Well, this has been at precisely the intellectual level I imagined.

You've set the tone.

 

[SassyIrishLass]

Well, this has been at precisely the intellectual level I imagined.

Yup...you failed again, hack

 

[Vastator]

The amount of debt our nation has amassed can only ever be eliminated through the elimination of our debtors.

Now THERE'S an idea!

Not an idea. Just the facts...

 

[Mac1958]

Okay, to update:

In response to Conservative Review's specific and fact-filled piece on Trump:

• It's the Dems' fault
• It's the OP's fault
• But Obama
• Trump is just a bystander
  
• The OP has TDS
• The OP is a hack
• The OP needs to go back on his meds

Outstanding so far.
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[SassyIrishLass]

Okay, to update:

In response to Conservative Review's fact-filled piece on Trump:

• It's the Dems' fault
• It's the OP's fault
• But Obama
• Trump is just a bystander
  
• The OP has TDS
• The OP is a hack
• The OP needs to go back on his meds

Outstanding so far.
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Ask stupid questions, get correct answers then try to act like a smug ass

You're better off on ignore

 

[Mac1958]

Okay, to update:

In response to Conservative Review's fact-filled piece on Trump:

• It's the Dems' fault
• It's the OP's fault
• But Obama
• Trump is just a bystander
  
• The OP has TDS
• The OP is a hack
• The OP needs to go back on his meds

Outstanding so far.
.

Ask stupid questions, get correct answers then try to act like a smug ass

You're better off on ignore

"Stupid question"? I posted a piece from a conservative publication.

Is Conservative Review stupid? Is that what you're saying?

You just don't have a response, because talk radio hasn't told you want to think yet.

So you just attack. It's all you know.
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[Correll]

The Conservative Review isn't playing along. Good for them. Anyone who brings up Trump's exploding debt and flagging economy are immediately mocked by his obedient Trumpsters, but fortunately there are still some Conservatives who are not willing to lie and spin for him.

But I know, I know. The Trumpsters don't care.

Trump can’t be both the president of growth and the president of debt

Earlier today, the Bureau of Economic Analysis announced that the economy had grown just 2.1 percent during the second quarter of this year (ending June 30). It also revised Q4 of 2018 down to just 1.1 percent, which now means that growth during the 12 months ending Q4 of 2018 was only 2.5 percent, not 3 percent as previously thought. This means that the U.S. economy has now gone 14 years without a year-over-year growth of 3 percent. It’s been 19 years since we’ve hit 4 percent, which was during 1997-2000.

While the numbers don’t portend a coming recession, it is highly unusual for us to go for 16 consecutive months with unemployment below 4 percent and 43 months below 5 percent, yet never attain 3 or 4 percent annual GDP growth. In fact, that has never happened before. During the late 1990s, the unemployment rate ranged from 5.3 percent to 3.9 percent – not even as good as today’s 3.7 percent – yet GDP growth was over 4 percent. Ditto for the late 1960s, when we saw years of 6 percent growth. During the mid 1980s, we saw this growth even with higher unemployment rates.

The debt is not just a problem for future generations in terms of a fiscal cost that will be borne by taxpayers. The exclusive focus on the future is what has fostered the Louis XV mentality of “after me, the deluge.” Let’s face it, we are a nation that doesn’t care about the future of our children. What is missing from the discussion is that the debt is permanently weighing down economic growth now.

Let’s peek into the numbers behind today’s topline GDP report. GDP comprises personal consumption expenditures, gross private domestic investment, government spending, and net exports. Seventy percent of the equation is consumption, and the robust 4.3 percent growth in consumption this quarter is a big part of what is keeping us even at 2.1 percent growth. This is not artificial and is good news. Consumption is a sign of a healthy job market, with more people earning money, as well as the tax cuts putting more cash in people’s pockets to spend. No matter whether our economy is fully free market or quasi-socialist, whenever there is more money in people’s pockets, these numbers will go up. We are now in a boom period, and the numbers are good.

But what else is propping up the number? Government spending! Gross government spending, which accounts for about 17.5 percent of the GDP pie, spiked 5 percent. Non-defense spending rose by 15.9 percent!
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Trump is pragmatist and a populist, and a nationalist, not a conservative. Plenty of conservatives mentioned this during the election, such as Ben Shapiro.



The debt is a problem. Any attempt to deal with it, gets the Republicans demonized and then we lose. This battle is lost.



And of course the economy is slowing, the expansion is quite old. Trump deserves credit for us NOT being in a recession yet.


But yes, much more needs to be done to fix the long term health of the economy.

 

[Vastator]

Okay, to update:

In response to Conservative Review's fact-filled piece on Trump:

• It's the Dems' fault
• It's the OP's fault
• But Obama
• Trump is just a bystander
  
• The OP has TDS
• The OP is a hack
• The OP needs to go back on his meds

Outstanding so far.
.

Ask stupid questions, get correct answers then try to act like a smug ass

You're better off on ignore

"Stupid question"? I posted a piece from a conservative publication.

Is Conservative Review stupid? Is that what you're saying?

You just don't have a response, because talk radio hasn't told you want to think yet.

So you just attack. It's all you know.
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For someone who wants people to believe he resides somewhere in the middle... You argue just like a dyed in the wool leftist. You've even adopted their strategy of using criticisms the right accurately places on the left, and in an attempt to lessen the sting... Try to use it on the right. But it doesn't work. Much like when the right accurately coined the term "snowflake". The left had no rebuttal, and it burned their ass to no end. So what did they do? They just started using it too. Hoping it would sting the right, as badly as it stung the left.
They do say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery... And the leftists never seem to tire of flattering the Right. Yourself included. With your talk radio bit; as a retaliatory accusation to the left's mindless regurgitation of CNN talking points, and deafening silence until such talking points have been issued. And just like the Left, you yourself, along with your contributions are absent original thought, as though you fear to take a guess, or think for yourself. So instead you simply sit back and criticize, never taking a stand, or a risk... Just playing it in a manner that you feel is "safe". But it is your manner that betrays you. Its leftist all the way. Just more cowardly than most...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

The Conservative Review isn't playing along. Good for them. Anyone who brings up Trump's exploding debt and flagging economy are immediately mocked by his obedient Trumpsters, but fortunately there are still some Conservatives who are not willing to lie and spin for him.

But I know, I know. The Trumpsters don't care.

Trump can’t be both the president of growth and the president of debt

Earlier today, the Bureau of Economic Analysis announced that the economy had grown just 2.1 percent during the second quarter of this year (ending June 30). It also revised Q4 of 2018 down to just 1.1 percent, which now means that growth during the 12 months ending Q4 of 2018 was only 2.5 percent, not 3 percent as previously thought. This means that the U.S. economy has now gone 14 years without a year-over-year growth of 3 percent. It’s been 19 years since we’ve hit 4 percent, which was during 1997-2000.

While the numbers don’t portend a coming recession, it is highly unusual for us to go for 16 consecutive months with unemployment below 4 percent and 43 months below 5 percent, yet never attain 3 or 4 percent annual GDP growth. In fact, that has never happened before. During the late 1990s, the unemployment rate ranged from 5.3 percent to 3.9 percent – not even as good as today’s 3.7 percent – yet GDP growth was over 4 percent. Ditto for the late 1960s, when we saw years of 6 percent growth. During the mid 1980s, we saw this growth even with higher unemployment rates.

The debt is not just a problem for future generations in terms of a fiscal cost that will be borne by taxpayers. The exclusive focus on the future is what has fostered the Louis XV mentality of “after me, the deluge.” Let’s face it, we are a nation that doesn’t care about the future of our children. What is missing from the discussion is that the debt is permanently weighing down economic growth now.

Let’s peek into the numbers behind today’s topline GDP report. GDP comprises personal consumption expenditures, gross private domestic investment, government spending, and net exports. Seventy percent of the equation is consumption, and the robust 4.3 percent growth in consumption this quarter is a big part of what is keeping us even at 2.1 percent growth. This is not artificial and is good news. Consumption is a sign of a healthy job market, with more people earning money, as well as the tax cuts putting more cash in people’s pockets to spend. No matter whether our economy is fully free market or quasi-socialist, whenever there is more money in people’s pockets, these numbers will go up. We are now in a boom period, and the numbers are good.

But what else is propping up the number? Government spending! Gross government spending, which accounts for about 17.5 percent of the GDP pie, spiked 5 percent. Non-defense spending rose by 15.9 percent!
,

I hate to disappoint you, Mac, but President Trump has landed hard on liars and creeps in this nation who think of nothing but cheating Americans out of their Bill of Rights through their pantywaist Socialism that becomes full-fledged Communism by the time they get power. He has God on his side, and the Wiccans who want to bring down the founder's America haven't figured that one out yet. :yay:

Okay, well, maybe Trump and God can fix what Trump has done.
.

You got it all wrong, Mac. God called President Trump who knows the ways of the Demmies and has the courage to do right by the American people and not the United Nations BLOC. (Bad League Of Creepsisters)

Trump supporters have never cared about facts and the truth – they’re not going to start now.

The GOP's Quest for a White America Is Destroying America

 

[Correll]

The Conservative Review isn't playing along. Good for them. Anyone who brings up Trump's exploding debt and flagging economy are immediately mocked by his obedient Trumpsters, but fortunately there are still some Conservatives who are not willing to lie and spin for him.

But I know, I know. The Trumpsters don't care.

Trump can’t be both the president of growth and the president of debt

Earlier today, the Bureau of Economic Analysis announced that the economy had grown just 2.1 percent during the second quarter of this year (ending June 30). It also revised Q4 of 2018 down to just 1.1 percent, which now means that growth during the 12 months ending Q4 of 2018 was only 2.5 percent, not 3 percent as previously thought. This means that the U.S. economy has now gone 14 years without a year-over-year growth of 3 percent. It’s been 19 years since we’ve hit 4 percent, which was during 1997-2000.

While the numbers don’t portend a coming recession, it is highly unusual for us to go for 16 consecutive months with unemployment below 4 percent and 43 months below 5 percent, yet never attain 3 or 4 percent annual GDP growth. In fact, that has never happened before. During the late 1990s, the unemployment rate ranged from 5.3 percent to 3.9 percent – not even as good as today’s 3.7 percent – yet GDP growth was over 4 percent. Ditto for the late 1960s, when we saw years of 6 percent growth. During the mid 1980s, we saw this growth even with higher unemployment rates.

The debt is not just a problem for future generations in terms of a fiscal cost that will be borne by taxpayers. The exclusive focus on the future is what has fostered the Louis XV mentality of “after me, the deluge.” Let’s face it, we are a nation that doesn’t care about the future of our children. What is missing from the discussion is that the debt is permanently weighing down economic growth now.

Let’s peek into the numbers behind today’s topline GDP report. GDP comprises personal consumption expenditures, gross private domestic investment, government spending, and net exports. Seventy percent of the equation is consumption, and the robust 4.3 percent growth in consumption this quarter is a big part of what is keeping us even at 2.1 percent growth. This is not artificial and is good news. Consumption is a sign of a healthy job market, with more people earning money, as well as the tax cuts putting more cash in people’s pockets to spend. No matter whether our economy is fully free market or quasi-socialist, whenever there is more money in people’s pockets, these numbers will go up. We are now in a boom period, and the numbers are good.

But what else is propping up the number? Government spending! Gross government spending, which accounts for about 17.5 percent of the GDP pie, spiked 5 percent. Non-defense spending rose by 15.9 percent!
,

I hate to disappoint you, Mac, but President Trump has landed hard on liars and creeps in this nation who think of nothing but cheating Americans out of their Bill of Rights through their pantywaist Socialism that becomes full-fledged Communism by the time they get power. He has God on his side, and the Wiccans who want to bring down the founder's America haven't figured that one out yet. :yay:

Okay, well, maybe Trump and God can fix what Trump has done.
.

You got it all wrong, Mac. God called President Trump who knows the ways of the Demmies and has the courage to do right by the American people and not the United Nations BLOC. (Bad League Of Creepsisters)

Trump supporters have never cared about facts and the truth – they’re not going to start now.

The GOP's Quest for a White America Is Destroying America

Thank God you got here. 55 posts about budget and politics and no one had used the Race Card yet!

YOu have saved this thread. ANd, perhaps. The World.

 

[Muhammed]

Okay, to update:

In response to Conservative Review's specific and fact-filled piece on Trump:

• It's the Dems' fault
• It's the OP's fault
• But Obama
• Trump is just a bystander
  
• The OP has TDS
• The OP is a hack
• The OP needs to go back on his meds

Outstanding so far.
.

Dude, your whole "independent" schtick was destroyed years ago.

Fuck off, scumbag.

 

[theHawk]

The Conservative Review isn't playing along. Good for them. Anyone who brings up Trump's exploding debt and flagging economy are immediately mocked by his obedient Trumpsters, but fortunately there are still some Conservatives who are not willing to lie and spin for him.

But I know, I know. The Trumpsters don't care.

Trump can’t be both the president of growth and the president of debt

Earlier today, the Bureau of Economic Analysis announced that the economy had grown just 2.1 percent during the second quarter of this year (ending June 30). It also revised Q4 of 2018 down to just 1.1 percent, which now means that growth during the 12 months ending Q4 of 2018 was only 2.5 percent, not 3 percent as previously thought. This means that the U.S. economy has now gone 14 years without a year-over-year growth of 3 percent. It’s been 19 years since we’ve hit 4 percent, which was during 1997-2000.

While the numbers don’t portend a coming recession, it is highly unusual for us to go for 16 consecutive months with unemployment below 4 percent and 43 months below 5 percent, yet never attain 3 or 4 percent annual GDP growth. In fact, that has never happened before. During the late 1990s, the unemployment rate ranged from 5.3 percent to 3.9 percent – not even as good as today’s 3.7 percent – yet GDP growth was over 4 percent. Ditto for the late 1960s, when we saw years of 6 percent growth. During the mid 1980s, we saw this growth even with higher unemployment rates.

The debt is not just a problem for future generations in terms of a fiscal cost that will be borne by taxpayers. The exclusive focus on the future is what has fostered the Louis XV mentality of “after me, the deluge.” Let’s face it, we are a nation that doesn’t care about the future of our children. What is missing from the discussion is that the debt is permanently weighing down economic growth now.

Let’s peek into the numbers behind today’s topline GDP report. GDP comprises personal consumption expenditures, gross private domestic investment, government spending, and net exports. Seventy percent of the equation is consumption, and the robust 4.3 percent growth in consumption this quarter is a big part of what is keeping us even at 2.1 percent growth. This is not artificial and is good news. Consumption is a sign of a healthy job market, with more people earning money, as well as the tax cuts putting more cash in people’s pockets to spend. No matter whether our economy is fully free market or quasi-socialist, whenever there is more money in people’s pockets, these numbers will go up. We are now in a boom period, and the numbers are good.

But what else is propping up the number? Government spending! Gross government spending, which accounts for about 17.5 percent of the GDP pie, spiked 5 percent. Non-defense spending rose by 15.9 percent!
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So where is the Dem House bill that balances the budget?

Good question. Why didn't Trump ask that?

Where is HIS?
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Why does he need to ask for it?

Dems control the House, it’s on them to pass a budget.

Oh, okay. It's just out of his hands. He's kind of an innocent bystander.

Well, that explains it. Now I feel bad for the guy.
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Yes, unfortunately he can’t force Congress to do its job.

If he vetoes the bills then he gets demonized by you regressives for being inhumane for shutting down the government. You can’t have it both ways.

 

[beautress]

The Conservative Review isn't playing along. Good for them. Anyone who brings up Trump's exploding debt and flagging economy are immediately mocked by his obedient Trumpsters, but fortunately there are still some Conservatives who are not willing to lie and spin for him.

But I know, I know. The Trumpsters don't care.

Trump can’t be both the president of growth and the president of debt

Earlier today, the Bureau of Economic Analysis announced that the economy had grown just 2.1 percent during the second quarter of this year (ending June 30). It also revised Q4 of 2018 down to just 1.1 percent, which now means that growth during the 12 months ending Q4 of 2018 was only 2.5 percent, not 3 percent as previously thought. This means that the U.S. economy has now gone 14 years without a year-over-year growth of 3 percent. It’s been 19 years since we’ve hit 4 percent, which was during 1997-2000.

While the numbers don’t portend a coming recession, it is highly unusual for us to go for 16 consecutive months with unemployment below 4 percent and 43 months below 5 percent, yet never attain 3 or 4 percent annual GDP growth. In fact, that has never happened before. During the late 1990s, the unemployment rate ranged from 5.3 percent to 3.9 percent – not even as good as today’s 3.7 percent – yet GDP growth was over 4 percent. Ditto for the late 1960s, when we saw years of 6 percent growth. During the mid 1980s, we saw this growth even with higher unemployment rates.

The debt is not just a problem for future generations in terms of a fiscal cost that will be borne by taxpayers. The exclusive focus on the future is what has fostered the Louis XV mentality of “after me, the deluge.” Let’s face it, we are a nation that doesn’t care about the future of our children. What is missing from the discussion is that the debt is permanently weighing down economic growth now.

Let’s peek into the numbers behind today’s topline GDP report. GDP comprises personal consumption expenditures, gross private domestic investment, government spending, and net exports. Seventy percent of the equation is consumption, and the robust 4.3 percent growth in consumption this quarter is a big part of what is keeping us even at 2.1 percent growth. This is not artificial and is good news. Consumption is a sign of a healthy job market, with more people earning money, as well as the tax cuts putting more cash in people’s pockets to spend. No matter whether our economy is fully free market or quasi-socialist, whenever there is more money in people’s pockets, these numbers will go up. We are now in a boom period, and the numbers are good.

But what else is propping up the number? Government spending! Gross government spending, which accounts for about 17.5 percent of the GDP pie, spiked 5 percent. Non-defense spending rose by 15.9 percent!
,

I hate to disappoint you, Mac, but President Trump has landed hard on liars and creeps in this nation who think of nothing but cheating Americans out of their Bill of Rights through their pantywaist Socialism that becomes full-fledged Communism by the time they get power. He has God on his side, and the Wiccans who want to bring down the founder's America haven't figured that one out yet. :yay:

Okay, well, maybe Trump and God can fix what Trump has done.
.

You got it all wrong, Mac. God called President Trump who knows the ways of the Demmies and has the courage to do right by the American people and not the United Nations BLOC. (Bad League Of Creepsisters)

Trump supporters have never cared about facts and the truth – they’re not going to start now.

The GOP's Quest for a White America Is Destroying America

Clayton borrows hate-Trump bulloney from the biggest hate-Trump singers on the American stage--the
Time Mug-azine!