Unconstitutional: N Y to Check Social Media of Gun Buyers.

Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation
And what is this supposed to accomplish? Even if you post on Fakebook that illegals should be shot, that is not a crime and so therefore they have no grounds to deny you a gun purchase.
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.
That is the issue. People can say stupid stuff, and it is not the governments place to define what stupid talk is or is not.
Yet when that kid who shot up Parkland said "stupid stuff" on his social media, a lot of people called that a failure of the police and the system meant to protect us. You can't have it both ways. I realize there were more red flags than that, but a gun background check isn't going to be able to check that extensively into anyone's history--especially not juvenile history.
There have been example after example of people bragging and showing off their weapons on social media and spewing hate, threatening to kill. And then they did.
Tad difference between the police talking to a minor who posts he wants to shoot up a school and denying Constitutional Rights to an adult over a perceived meme.
What "perceived meme" are you talking about? Are you projecting again and making up shit to be alarmed over? Just like you think that making AR's illegal will somehow trigger the government into somehow (without the military's help) taking over the citizenry and turning us into a dictatorship where we are all helpless slaves.
 
No Tucker the Dems are not going to disarm the population. What a hoot. And not its not repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Tucker and Fox are so absurd.
:abgg2q.jpg:
Jews thought the same thing when Adolf Hitler came into power...And we know how well that ended.

holocaust.jpg

Hitler didn't disarm anyone who was pro Hitler and Trump is now trying to disarm the voice and reputation of those against him and throw them in jail.
You do realize that when people are traitorous to this country (that want to fundamentally transform it into a 3rd world cesspool) they deserve to be thrown in jail, or even better, shot..

Execution by firing squad
 
Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation
And what is this supposed to accomplish? Even if you post on Fakebook that illegals should be shot, that is not a crime and so therefore they have no grounds to deny you a gun purchase.
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.
Owning a weapon is a right, not a privilege

-Geaux
It shouldn't be if you are publicly advocating violence. That's just stupid.
 
And what is this supposed to accomplish? Even if you post on Fakebook that illegals should be shot, that is not a crime and so therefore they have no grounds to deny you a gun purchase.
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.
That is the issue. People can say stupid stuff, and it is not the governments place to define what stupid talk is or is not.
Yet when that kid who shot up Parkland said "stupid stuff" on his social media, a lot of people called that a failure of the police and the system meant to protect us. You can't have it both ways. I realize there were more red flags than that, but a gun background check isn't going to be able to check that extensively into anyone's history--especially not juvenile history.
There have been example after example of people bragging and showing off their weapons on social media and spewing hate, threatening to kill. And then they did.
Tad difference between the police talking to a minor who posts he wants to shoot up a school and denying Constitutional Rights to an adult over a perceived meme.
What "perceived meme" are you talking about? Are you projecting again and making up shit to be alarmed over? Just like you think that making AR's illegal will somehow trigger the government into somehow (without the military's help) taking over the citizenry and turning us into a dictatorship where we are all helpless slaves.
What defines and who defines a social media post that would deny you your Constitutional Rights?

My point exactly.
 
No Tucker the Dems are not going to disarm the population. What a hoot. And not its not repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Tucker and Fox are so absurd.
:abgg2q.jpg:
Jews thought the same thing when Adolf Hitler came into power...And we know how well that ended.

holocaust.jpg

Hitler didn't disarm anyone who was pro Hitler and Trump is now trying to disarm the voice and reputation of those against him and throw them in jail.
You do realize that when people are traitorous to this country (that want to fundamentally transform it into a 3rd world cesspool) they deserve to be thrown in jail, or even better, shot..

Execution by firing squad

I would not suggest for Trump to be in front of a firing squad, no matter how bad he is.
 
No Tucker the Dems are not going to disarm the population. What a hoot. And not its not repealing the 2nd Amendment.

Tucker and Fox are so absurd.
:abgg2q.jpg:
Jews thought the same thing when Adolf Hitler came into power...And we know how well that ended.

holocaust.jpg

Hitler didn't disarm anyone who was pro Hitler and Trump is now trying to disarm the voice and reputation of those against him and throw them in jail.
You do realize that when people are traitorous to this country (that want to fundamentally transform it into a 3rd world cesspool) they deserve to be thrown in jail, or even better, shot..

Execution by firing squad

I would not suggest for Trump to be in front of a firing squad, no matter how bad he is.
That isnt what Mad Maxine had said, or the vagina wearing bitch Ashley Judd...But if you are wanting to make this country into a Socialist Paradise, then that is treason....
 
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.
That is the issue. People can say stupid stuff, and it is not the governments place to define what stupid talk is or is not.
Yet when that kid who shot up Parkland said "stupid stuff" on his social media, a lot of people called that a failure of the police and the system meant to protect us. You can't have it both ways. I realize there were more red flags than that, but a gun background check isn't going to be able to check that extensively into anyone's history--especially not juvenile history.
There have been example after example of people bragging and showing off their weapons on social media and spewing hate, threatening to kill. And then they did.
Tad difference between the police talking to a minor who posts he wants to shoot up a school and denying Constitutional Rights to an adult over a perceived meme.
What "perceived meme" are you talking about? Are you projecting again and making up shit to be alarmed over? Just like you think that making AR's illegal will somehow trigger the government into somehow (without the military's help) taking over the citizenry and turning us into a dictatorship where we are all helpless slaves.
What defines and who defines a social media post that would deny you your Constitutional Rights?

My point exactly.
L.E. admits it is difficult to know what is just "hot air" and what is a true threat. No one has a crystal ball. My theory is that if a person is so full of hate/anger that they are talking violence and showing off their weapons and have a target they hate, WHY ON EARTH would you want to give them a gun?
 
Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation
And what is this supposed to accomplish? Even if you post on Fakebook that illegals should be shot, that is not a crime and so therefore they have no grounds to deny you a gun purchase.
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.

Judges regularly issue restraining orders based on recorded statements. Think of it as a restraining order for guns based on that same type statement.
 
Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation
Yes, in some states (like Colorado) the state constitution is written so that cities have a degree of autonomy and can pass laws more or less strict than the ones on the state's books.
As for the proposed NY one, completely unconstitutional, a violation of both the 1st and the 4th.
 
Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation
And what is this supposed to accomplish? Even if you post on Fakebook that illegals should be shot, that is not a crime and so therefore they have no grounds to deny you a gun purchase.
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.

Judges regularly issue restraining orders based on recorded statements. Think of it as a restraining order for guns based on that same type statement.
Apples and oranges, one is a legal determination based on judicial cause and evidentiary requirements the other has no legal/constitutional basis.
 
Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation
And what is this supposed to accomplish? Even if you post on Fakebook that illegals should be shot, that is not a crime and so therefore they have no grounds to deny you a gun purchase.
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.

Judges regularly issue restraining orders based on recorded statements. Think of it as a restraining order for guns based on that same type statement.
Does that make it to the NICS database?
That thing is as full of holes as swiss cheese.
 
Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation
And what is this supposed to accomplish? Even if you post on Fakebook that illegals should be shot, that is not a crime and so therefore they have no grounds to deny you a gun purchase.
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.

Judges regularly issue restraining orders based on recorded statements. Think of it as a restraining order for guns based on that same type statement.
Does that make it to the NICS database?
That thing is as full of holes as swiss cheese.

HTF should I know? I'm just another anonymous poster on a discussion board putting my 2 cents worth in. That's way above my pay grade.
 
Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation
And what is this supposed to accomplish? Even if you post on Fakebook that illegals should be shot, that is not a crime and so therefore they have no grounds to deny you a gun purchase.
It is not a crime to say it, but why would anyone in their right mind say such trash? Does someone who says that deserve a gun? No.
Owning a weapon is a right, not a privilege

-Geaux
It shouldn't be if you are publicly advocating violence. That's just stupid.
But it is

-Geaux
 
That is the issue. People can say stupid stuff, and it is not the governments place to define what stupid talk is or is not.
Yet when that kid who shot up Parkland said "stupid stuff" on his social media, a lot of people called that a failure of the police and the system meant to protect us. You can't have it both ways. I realize there were more red flags than that, but a gun background check isn't going to be able to check that extensively into anyone's history--especially not juvenile history.
There have been example after example of people bragging and showing off their weapons on social media and spewing hate, threatening to kill. And then they did.
Tad difference between the police talking to a minor who posts he wants to shoot up a school and denying Constitutional Rights to an adult over a perceived meme.
What "perceived meme" are you talking about? Are you projecting again and making up shit to be alarmed over? Just like you think that making AR's illegal will somehow trigger the government into somehow (without the military's help) taking over the citizenry and turning us into a dictatorship where we are all helpless slaves.
What defines and who defines a social media post that would deny you your Constitutional Rights?

My point exactly.
L.E. admits it is difficult to know what is just "hot air" and what is a true threat. No one has a crystal ball. My theory is that if a person is so full of hate/anger that they are talking violence and showing off their weapons and have a target they hate, WHY ON EARTH would you want to give them a gun?
So you’re ok with me deciding your rights should be suspended. Or maybe a board composed of Trump appointees.
 
Fourth Amendment, right up front.

Not sure of the laws in New York. Can cities override state law? In Virginia, they cannot.

Gun purchasers may need to submit social media history under proposed New York legislation

Yeah, this ignores multiple amendments. At first I thought, so they are going to look at your social media accounts, which would violate the 2nd, but not so much the 4th. Then I read the part about 3 years worth of search engine history and then realized where the 4th came in. Not to mention who does not clear their history on a regular basis?
Social media is public, so where is the violation? It could have stopped some of our mass killers, couldn't it? Who had clear threats and "red flags" on their social media accounts?

Social media might be public but my search engine history is not


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it's public in a sense....

because every time I search something, within 2 to 24 hours I have all kinds of ads popping up that relate to what I have searched....

And that really pisses me off! :lol:
 
Old Lady has a point, after every mass shooting it seems that people are bashing the police for not putting together the pieces before hand.

In nine of ten incidents the perps were on police radar, and had been for some time.
 

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