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WTF?bigreb is admitting that unemployment is going down under the rules used by the Bureau of Labor, just like under the Bushes, Clinton, Reagan, etc.
biggie is not help the GOP with his arguments.
WTF?bigreb is admitting that unemployment is going down under the rules used by the Bureau of Labor, just like under the Bushes, Clinton, Reagan, etc.
biggie is not help the GOP with his arguments.
You are an idiot. Unemployment is going do but DOES THAT MEAN PEOPLE ARE GOING BACK TO WORK?
what the fuck is wrong with you butt hurt?
You are just a pathological liar!And you always ignore this part from your very own link:OK assshat lets review before we go any further This is what I said earlier
You said
Then I posted this
And you're a liar
What do the unemployment insurance (UI) figures measure?
In addition, the insured unemployed exclude the following:
Unemployed workers who have exhausted their benefits
Unemployed workers who have not yet earned benefit rights (such as new entrants or reentrants to the labor force)
Disqualified workers whose unemployment is considered to have resulted from their own actions rather than from economic conditions; for example, a worker discharged for misconduct on the job
Otherwise eligible unemployed persons who do not file for benefits
And you still disagree with that and now you agree with what I said earlier which was this.
This statement
is correct with this from the BLS
exhausted means to run out. Do you understand?
Where do the statistics come from?
Early each month, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) of the U.S. Department of Labor announces the total number of employed and unemployed persons in the United States for the previous month, along with many characteristics of such persons. These figures, particularly the unemployment ratewhich tells you the percent of the labor force that is unemployedreceive wide coverage in the media.
Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.
Other people think that the Government counts every unemployed person each month. To do this, every home in the country would have to be contactedjust as in the population census every 10 years. This procedure would cost way too much and take far too long. Besides, people would soon grow tired of having a census taker come to their homes every month, year after year, to ask about job-related activities.
Because unemployment insurance records relate only to persons who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to actually count every unemployed person each month, the Government conducts a monthly sample survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration project. It has been expanded and modified several times since then. For instance, beginning in 1994, the CPS estimates reflect the results of a major redesign of the survey. (For more information on the CPS redesign, see Chapter 1, "Labor Force Data Derived from the Current Population Survey," in the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
There are about 60,000 households in the sample for this survey. This translates into approximately 110,000 individuals, a large sample compared to public opinion surveys which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population of the United States. In order to select the sample, all of the counties and county-equivalent cities in the country first are grouped into 2,025 geographic areas (sampling units). The Census Bureau then designs and selects a sample consisting of 824 of these geographic areas to represent each State and the District of Columbia. The sample is a State-based design and reflects urban and rural areas, different types of industrial and farming areas, and the major geographic divisions of each State. (For a detailed explanation of CPS sampling methodology, see Chapter 1, of the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
Listen up idiot When a person no longer receives an unemployment check regardless if they go back to work or not they are no longer counted as unemployed which when that happens the unemployment numbers drop REGARDLESS IF THEY GO BACK TO WORK OR NEVER GET A JOB THEY ARE NO LONGER COUNTED AS UNEMPLOYED.
That is not my rules that the BOL's rules.
WTF?bigreb is admitting that unemployment is going down under the rules used by the Bureau of Labor, just like under the Bushes, Clinton, Reagan, etc.
biggie is not help the GOP with his arguments.
You are an idiot. Unemployment is going do but DOES THAT MEAN PEOPLE ARE GOING BACK TO WORK?
what the fuck is wrong with you butt hurt?
You and Jake seem very alike to me.
You are just a pathological liar!And you always ignore this part from your very own link:
Where do the statistics come from?
Early each month, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) of the U.S. Department of Labor announces the total number of employed and unemployed persons in the United States for the previous month, along with many characteristics of such persons. These figures, particularly the unemployment ratewhich tells you the percent of the labor force that is unemployedreceive wide coverage in the media.
Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.
Other people think that the Government counts every unemployed person each month. To do this, every home in the country would have to be contactedjust as in the population census every 10 years. This procedure would cost way too much and take far too long. Besides, people would soon grow tired of having a census taker come to their homes every month, year after year, to ask about job-related activities.
Because unemployment insurance records relate only to persons who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to actually count every unemployed person each month, the Government conducts a monthly sample survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration project. It has been expanded and modified several times since then. For instance, beginning in 1994, the CPS estimates reflect the results of a major redesign of the survey. (For more information on the CPS redesign, see Chapter 1, "Labor Force Data Derived from the Current Population Survey," in the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
There are about 60,000 households in the sample for this survey. This translates into approximately 110,000 individuals, a large sample compared to public opinion surveys which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population of the United States. In order to select the sample, all of the counties and county-equivalent cities in the country first are grouped into 2,025 geographic areas (sampling units). The Census Bureau then designs and selects a sample consisting of 824 of these geographic areas to represent each State and the District of Columbia. The sample is a State-based design and reflects urban and rural areas, different types of industrial and farming areas, and the major geographic divisions of each State. (For a detailed explanation of CPS sampling methodology, see Chapter 1, of the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
Listen up idiot When a person no longer receives an unemployment check regardless if they go back to work or not they are no longer counted as unemployed which when that happens the unemployment numbers drop REGARDLESS IF THEY GO BACK TO WORK OR NEVER GET A JOB THEY ARE NO LONGER COUNTED AS UNEMPLOYED.
That is not my rules that the BOL's rules.
That is not the BLS rule, you just made up that bullshit. I can't make the type any bigger but the BLS says for precisely the reason you gave that the UI data is not complete enough for UE stats, so they use the CURRENT POPULATION SURVEY to measure UE.
Admit the truth or
That's from the BOLIn addition, the insured unemployed exclude the following:
Unemployed workers who have exhausted their benefits
Unemployed workers who have not yet earned benefit rights (such as new entrants or reentrants to the labor force)
Disqualified workers whose unemployment is considered to have resulted from their own actions rather than from economic conditions; for example, a worker discharged for misconduct on the job
Otherwise eligible unemployed persons who do not file for benefits
Because of these and other limitations, statistics on insured unemployment cannot be used as a count of total unemployment in the United States. Indeed, during 2008, only 36 percent of the total unemployed received UI benefits. The weekly data on UI claims do have important uses, however, and provide a timely indicator on labor market conditions.
You are just a pathological liar!And you always ignore this part from your very own link:
Where do the statistics come from?
Early each month, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) of the U.S. Department of Labor announces the total number of employed and unemployed persons in the United States for the previous month, along with many characteristics of such persons. These figures, particularly the unemployment ratewhich tells you the percent of the labor force that is unemployedreceive wide coverage in the media.
Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.
Other people think that the Government counts every unemployed person each month. To do this, every home in the country would have to be contactedjust as in the population census every 10 years. This procedure would cost way too much and take far too long. Besides, people would soon grow tired of having a census taker come to their homes every month, year after year, to ask about job-related activities.
Because unemployment insurance records relate only to persons who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to actually count every unemployed person each month, the Government conducts a monthly sample survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration project. It has been expanded and modified several times since then. For instance, beginning in 1994, the CPS estimates reflect the results of a major redesign of the survey. (For more information on the CPS redesign, see Chapter 1, "Labor Force Data Derived from the Current Population Survey," in the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
There are about 60,000 households in the sample for this survey. This translates into approximately 110,000 individuals, a large sample compared to public opinion surveys which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population of the United States. In order to select the sample, all of the counties and county-equivalent cities in the country first are grouped into 2,025 geographic areas (sampling units). The Census Bureau then designs and selects a sample consisting of 824 of these geographic areas to represent each State and the District of Columbia. The sample is a State-based design and reflects urban and rural areas, different types of industrial and farming areas, and the major geographic divisions of each State. (For a detailed explanation of CPS sampling methodology, see Chapter 1, of the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
Listen up idiot When a person no longer receives an unemployment check regardless if they go back to work or not they are no longer counted as unemployed which when that happens the unemployment numbers drop REGARDLESS IF THEY GO BACK TO WORK OR NEVER GET A JOB THEY ARE NO LONGER COUNTED AS UNEMPLOYED.
That is not my rules that the BOL's rules.
That is not the BLS rule, you just made up that bullshit. I can't make the type any bigger but the BLS says for precisely the reason you gave that the UI data is not complete enough for UE stats, so they use the CURRENT POPULATION SURVEY to measure UE.
Admit the truth or
yes!!!!!!!wtf?
You are an idiot. Unemployment is going do but does that mean people are going back to work?
What the fuck is wrong with you butt hurt?
you and jake seem very alike to me.
i owe you.
When they say unemployment is down to 8.3 are they counting people who no longer receive an unemployment check?
yes!!!!!!!you and jake seem very alike to me.
i owe you.
When they say unemployment is down to 8.3 are they counting people who no longer receive an unemployment check?
What does this say,You are just a pathological liar!Listen up idiot When a person no longer receives an unemployment check regardless if they go back to work or not they are no longer counted as unemployed which when that happens the unemployment numbers drop REGARDLESS IF THEY GO BACK TO WORK OR NEVER GET A JOB THEY ARE NO LONGER COUNTED AS UNEMPLOYED.
That is not my rules that the BOL's rules.
That is not the BLS rule, you just made up that bullshit. I can't make the type any bigger but the BLS says for precisely the reason you gave that the UI data is not complete enough for UE stats, so they use the CURRENT POPULATION SURVEY to measure UE.
Admit the truth or
what does this say idiot?
That's from the BOLIn addition, the insured unemployed exclude the following:
Unemployed workers who have exhausted their benefits
Unemployed workers who have not yet earned benefit rights (such as new entrants or reentrants to the labor force)
Disqualified workers whose unemployment is considered to have resulted from their own actions rather than from economic conditions; for example, a worker discharged for misconduct on the job
Otherwise eligible unemployed persons who do not file for benefits
Because of these and other limitations, statistics on insured unemployment cannot be used as a count of total unemployment in the United States. Indeed, during 2008, only 36 percent of the total unemployed received UI benefits. The weekly data on UI claims do have important uses, however, and provide a timely indicator on labor market conditions.
No, it's 8.3%.yes!!!!!!!i owe you.
When they say unemployment is down to 8.3 are they counting people who no longer receive an unemployment check?
So unemployment is not 8.3 but more like 16%
yes!!!!!!!you and jake seem very alike to me.
i owe you.
When they say unemployment is down to 8.3 are they counting people who no longer receive an unemployment check?
What does this say,You are just a pathological liar!
That is not the BLS rule, you just made up that bullshit. I can't make the type any bigger but the BLS says for precisely the reason you gave that the UI data is not complete enough for UE stats, so they use the CURRENT POPULATION SURVEY to measure UE.
Admit the truth or
what does this say idiot?
That's from the BOLIn addition, the insured unemployed exclude the following:
Unemployed workers who have exhausted their benefits
Unemployed workers who have not yet earned benefit rights (such as new entrants or reentrants to the labor force)
Disqualified workers whose unemployment is considered to have resulted from their own actions rather than from economic conditions; for example, a worker discharged for misconduct on the job
Otherwise eligible unemployed persons who do not file for benefits
Because of these and other limitations, statistics on insured unemployment cannot be used as a count of total unemployment in the United States. Indeed, during 2008, only 36 percent of the total unemployed received UI benefits. The weekly data on UI claims do have important uses, however, and provide a timely indicator on labor market conditions.
From your very own BLS link:
Where do the statistics come from?
Early each month, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) of the U.S. Department of Labor announces the total number of employed and unemployed persons in the United States for the previous month, along with many characteristics of such persons. These figures, particularly the unemployment ratewhich tells you the percent of the labor force that is unemployedreceive wide coverage in the media.
Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.
Other people think that the Government counts every unemployed person each month. To do this, every home in the country would have to be contactedjust as in the population census every 10 years. This procedure would cost way too much and take far too long. Besides, people would soon grow tired of having a census taker come to their homes every month, year after year, to ask about job-related activities.
Because unemployment insurance records relate only to persons who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to actually count every unemployed person each month, the Government conducts a monthly sample survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration project. It has been expanded and modified several times since then. For instance, beginning in 1994, the CPS estimates reflect the results of a major redesign of the survey. (For more information on the CPS redesign, see Chapter 1, "Labor Force Data Derived from the Current Population Survey," in the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
There are about 60,000 households in the sample for this survey. This translates into approximately 110,000 individuals, a large sample compared to public opinion surveys which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population of the United States. In order to select the sample, all of the counties and county-equivalent cities in the country first are grouped into 2,025 geographic areas (sampling units). The Census Bureau then designs and selects a sample consisting of 824 of these geographic areas to represent each State and the District of Columbia. The sample is a State-based design and reflects urban and rural areas, different types of industrial and farming areas, and the major geographic divisions of each State. (For a detailed explanation of CPS sampling methodology, see Chapter 1, of the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
yes!!!!!!!i owe you.
When they say unemployment is down to 8.3 are they counting people who no longer receive an unemployment check?
Nope, they only count them if they are still looking for work, as reported in the survey. To count those who aren't looking gets you to about 16%. Confusing stuff huh?
No, that is the U-4 rate which gets you to 8.9%yes!!!!!!!i owe you.
When they say unemployment is down to 8.3 are they counting people who no longer receive an unemployment check?
Nope, they only count them if they are still looking for work, as reported in the survey. To count those who aren't looking gets you to about 16%. Confusing stuff huh?
It does not. The BLS says that if you no longer get an unemployment check you are no longer INSURED. You are not counted as unemployed when you stop looking for work!!! Why do you keep repeating the same lies over and over again?What does this say,what does this say idiot?
That's from the BOL
From your very own BLS link:
Where do the statistics come from?
Early each month, the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) of the U.S. Department of Labor announces the total number of employed and unemployed persons in the United States for the previous month, along with many characteristics of such persons. These figures, particularly the unemployment ratewhich tells you the percent of the labor force that is unemployedreceive wide coverage in the media.
Some people think that to get these figures on unemployment, the Government uses the number of persons filing claims for unemployment insurance (UI) benefits under State or Federal Government programs. But some people are still jobless when their benefits run out, and many more are not eligible at all or delay or never apply for benefits. So, quite clearly, UI information cannot be used as a source for complete information on the number of unemployed.
Other people think that the Government counts every unemployed person each month. To do this, every home in the country would have to be contactedjust as in the population census every 10 years. This procedure would cost way too much and take far too long. Besides, people would soon grow tired of having a census taker come to their homes every month, year after year, to ask about job-related activities.
Because unemployment insurance records relate only to persons who have applied for such benefits, and since it is impractical to actually count every unemployed person each month, the Government conducts a monthly sample survey called the Current Population Survey (CPS) to measure the extent of unemployment in the country. The CPS has been conducted in the United States every month since 1940, when it began as a Work Projects Administration project. It has been expanded and modified several times since then. For instance, beginning in 1994, the CPS estimates reflect the results of a major redesign of the survey. (For more information on the CPS redesign, see Chapter 1, "Labor Force Data Derived from the Current Population Survey," in the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
There are about 60,000 households in the sample for this survey. This translates into approximately 110,000 individuals, a large sample compared to public opinion surveys which usually cover fewer than 2,000 people. The CPS sample is selected so as to be representative of the entire population of the United States. In order to select the sample, all of the counties and county-equivalent cities in the country first are grouped into 2,025 geographic areas (sampling units). The Census Bureau then designs and selects a sample consisting of 824 of these geographic areas to represent each State and the District of Columbia. The sample is a State-based design and reflects urban and rural areas, different types of industrial and farming areas, and the major geographic divisions of each State. (For a detailed explanation of CPS sampling methodology, see Chapter 1, of the BLS Handbook of Methods.)
It amazes me just how stupid you are. THE BLS has stated that when you are not receiving an unemployment check you are no longer counted as unemployed, regradless if you go back to work or not.
What are the basic concepts of employment and unemployment?
The basic concepts involved in identifying the employed and unemployed are quite simple:
People with jobs are employed.
People who are jobless, looking for jobs, and available for work are unemployed.
People who are neither employed nor unemployed are not in the labor force.
No, that is the U-4 rate which gets you to 8.9%
From the BLS:
U-4 Total unemployed plus discouraged workers, as a percent of the civilian labor force plus discouraged workers
