Unintended Consequences of Banning Abortion

[Captain Caveman]

Yet many states make no exception for it. Essentially dooming those women, and in some cases children, to bear the spawn of criminals.

Nothing I can do about that.

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Probably in the opinion of science as well until an abnormality is detected on one of the various scans that are offered throughout the pregnancy. And because of human error, the odd abnormality sometimes missed.

No one is saying your opinions are wrong or otherwise invalid – that’s not the issue.

The only issue is that it is neither the role nor responsibility of the state to codify those subjective opinions in secular law all must obey – to the exclusion of other opinions just as valid and sincere.

 

[meaner gene]

Nothing I can do about that.

There's an old saying. There's an exception to every rule.

 

[Flopper]

And let's not forget the most relevant consequence of returning the decision to the States, or the people.....More babies might live.

And more women will suffer as well the unwanted children

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

They believe in small government, until it comes to the bedroom. In which case they want the state to intrude into every aspect.

Conservatives need to understand that ‘small government’ is far more than just reckless, irresponsible tax cuts and unwarranted deregulation.

 

[Flopper]

I still am shocked to find out you fucking morons still think righty women do not get abortions.

They not only get abortions but 48% believed Roe should not be overturned by the 5 men 1 woman on the high court. And certainly don't support these highly restrictive abortions laws passed by their legislation which is 80% to 85% men.

It will be interesting to see what backlash will come from republican women when their teen daughters turn up pregnant or they are told they must give birth to a badly deformed fetus or the child of a rapist. I expect there reaction will be exactly the same as democrat women in the same situation.

 

[Flopper]

Conservatives need to understand that ‘small government’ is far more than just reckless, irresponsible tax cuts and unwarranted deregulation.

And being told by the state that your 13 year old daughter or your wife who was raped will be forced to give birth will seem far more intrusive and cruel, than any tax increase or federal regulation.

 

[eddiew37]

And being told by the state that your 13 year old daughter or your wife who was raped will be forced to give birth will seem far more intrusive and cruel, than any tax increase or federal regulation.

SUCKERS!​

 

[eddiew37]

Called PERJURY

 

[bendog]

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Possibly, but Collins and Manchin and any other D who voted to confirm any of Trump's three federalist sponsored nominees had every reason to expect Roe was on the block. And instead of sacraficing 4 senate seats voting against Kavenaugh for being an drunk asshole decades back, they should have voted against him and said they thought he was being untruthful on Roe

 

[daveman]

You missed the word "private".
The things you mention involve public resources.
Anybody who refines their own gas, or generates their own electricity is free to waste as much of it as they want.

 

[daveman]

I'm saying that most serious birth defects aren't detectable at 6 weeks. And by the time they're detectable on ultrasound it would be too late.

Right. Kill 'em right away just to be sure.

 

[daveman]

You dance around saying they were born healthy, without mention of their developmental condition. As many defects have progressive manifestations.

There were none.

Birth defects are common. Between 2% and 3% of infants have one or more defects at birth. That number increases to 5% by age one (not all defects are discovered directly after your child's birth). One out of every 33 babies born in the United States are affected by birth defects.

Goodness! Pregnancy is so dangerous. It should be outlawed.

 

[daveman]

What about for rape an incest. Where conception is neither planned, nor preventable.

The leftist response to rape and incest is to execute the child and ignore the rapist.

The conservative response to rape and incest is to take care of the mother and child and execute the rapist.

 

[daveman]

Conservatives need to understand that ‘small government’ is far more than just reckless, irresponsible tax cuts and unwarranted deregulation.

You keep throwing your tantrums. No one's going to give up their rights to your god government to assuage your butthurt.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

what he ^^^^^ said!

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Acually it's like a tale of two cities. Before they're born the state wants full authority over them, to ensure they survive to term.

But once they're born, the state wants nothing to do with them. They don't provide for food, shelter, or healthcare.

How about WIC, TANF, Section 8, public housing, Obamacare, and Medicaid?

What planet do you live on?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

And being told by the state that your 13 year old daughter or your wife who was raped will be forced to give birth will seem far more intrusive and cruel, than any tax increase or federal regulation.

Travel to a state where it is legal.

 

[Flopper]

I have similar articles which is why know he's speaking the truth:

Cleveland Clinic sees significant rise in vasectomies after Supreme Court ruling

The Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade is prompting a major increase in requests for vasectomies.

fox8.com

Vasectomies: Urologist says consultations are up 900% after Roe v. Wade decision

With the overturn of Roe v. Wade, interest in vasectomies has increased dramatically.

www.cleveland19.com

While the left was predicting gloom and doom (as they always do with issues they disagree with) there may be a light at the end of the tunnel instead: many less abortions. That would work for both sides if you ask me. It's like what Rush Limbaugh used to say all the time "When you promote irresponsibility, don't be surprised when you end up with more irresponsible people."

This ruling may be pressuring people to be more responsible, and I say it's about time. I don't think it's one sided either. I think more women will practice BC along with men.

It is not the ruling that overturned Roe that is putting pressure on women. It is the bans passed by men in the legislatures and opposed by women that are creating the pressure. And that pressure is not necessarily good, more women turning to dangerous abortions, men and women turning to sterilizations, women using unsuitable birth control methods, and lastly the lost of many low cost or free services available at most abortion clinics which include free or low cost STD tests, free contraceptives, sex education, and abortion counseling.

As I mentioned, these laws were passed by men to save all fetuses regardless of the pain and sufferings force on women by the state. For example, In the Texas legislature only 6 out 48 women voted for the abortion bans while 93 out of 133 men voted for it; that is, only 12% of the women vote for it while 70% of the men voted for it. A similar situation exist in most legislatures that passed an abortion ban. The 10 states with lowest percent of women in the legislature all voted to ban abortion while none of the 10 states with the highest percent of women banned abortion.

Clearly the abortion battle is a battle of men against women, which is why these laws were passed by men that treat women brutally. In some states where abortion is banded, women must give birth to the child of their rapist. And women must give birth to a fetus resulting from sex between siblings or sibling and parents which are likely to have birth defects. In all the laws, a child that is old enough to give birth will be forced to, which includes children as young as 12 or 13. Likewise fetuses that have little or no chance of survival must be carried to term by the woman. These laws are something we would expect to come out of 16th century, a time in which women were held responsible for rape, deformed fetuses were due to their sins, and of course children were expected to give birth to children.

Women in State Legislatures 2024

cawp.rutgers.edu

Here's who voted for (and against) Texas' new abortion law in the House and Senate

When the Texas legislature voted on the abortion law in May, it passed mainly along party lines. See how your representative voted on the new measure.

www.statesman.com

 

[TemplarKormac]

• Requests for vasectomies and tubal ligation have increased significantly in the Abortion Banned states, as much as 900% in some areas.
• The morning after pill is running in short supply as women in banned states are buying up local supplies

These two things are not "unintended consequences"

These are people learning to practice personal responsibility in the bedroom.

Furthermore, condoms are there for a reason guys. Hell of a lot cheaper than surgery.