Universal Healthcare - will not work in the US

[Polishprince]

Of course not s*** head, but they should have more low-income housing instead of giving the money to the Rich like the GOP do. Life is tough with this ridiculous inequality you Jokers have given us. Soak the rich, even most of the rich agree LOL, Super Dupe..

So you don't really men a "living" wage. You are quite the hypocrite. As an aside where in SF would they build low income housing?

A living wage is $12 or above idiot. Oakland or wherever stupid question.

First you said 15 now you say 12. The question was about Frisco and now you change it to Oakland. $12 bucks won't let anyone live in Oakland or Frisco....well unless you in one of those tents in DT Frisco.

Actually the average rent in Oakland is $2900, makes that Frisco rent of $2500 a bargain.

Average Rent in Oakland & Rent Prices by Neighborhood - RENTCafé

people across the country have plans for low income housing that can't be approved because for 35 years now we have spent only half what we need on infrastructure. Thanks GOP and silly dupes like you. Forget San Francisco for a while you brainwashed functional morons.

Obama signed a Trillion Dollar Porkulus, that was supposed to provide Shovel Ready jobs and fix the infrastructure. What happened to that money?

 

[francoHFW]

So you don't really men a "living" wage. You are quite the hypocrite. As an aside where in SF would they build low income housing?

A living wage is $12 or above idiot. Oakland or wherever stupid question.

First you said 15 now you say 12. The question was about Frisco and now you change it to Oakland. $12 bucks won't let anyone live in Oakland or Frisco....well unless you in one of those tents in DT Frisco.

Actually the average rent in Oakland is $2900, makes that Frisco rent of $2500 a bargain.

Average Rent in Oakland & Rent Prices by Neighborhood - RENTCafé

people across the country have plans for low income housing that can't be approved because for 35 years now we have spent only half what we need on infrastructure. Thanks GOP and silly dupes like you. Forget San Francisco for a while you brainwashed functional morons.

Obama signed a Trillion Dollar Porkulus, that was supposed to provide Shovel Ready jobs and fix the infrastructure. What happened to that money?

Only two hundred billion of them was for infrastructure half was for tax cuts and it was spread out which was a good thing since the GOP would not cooperate on anything ever just like the last 35 years.

 

[francoHFW]

How many times do I have to say it I am not for a man date for healthcare. Obama was not for a Mandates and he also wanted a public option. He was right. As always LOL I don't know what other programs you are referring to, but if anything went wrong you be damn glad they are there. It's called civilization oh, and we need more of it. Like living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training. Everything the GOP blocks to save the rich from paying their fair share. Which you don't know about being a dupe.

So the Burger flipper in in San Francisco should be paid enough to rent a 2500 dollar month apt, given "free" Insurance, buy a car etc? You're a bright one aren't you?

Of course not s*** head, but they should have more low-income housing instead of giving the money to the Rich like the GOP do. Life is tough with this ridiculous inequality you Jokers have given us. Soak the rich, even most of the rich agree LOL, Super Dupe..

So you don't really men a "living" wage. You are quite the hypocrite. As an aside where in SF would they build low income housing?

A living wage is $12 or above idiot. Oakland or wherever stupid question.

Now you are really showing how stupid you actually are.

"What Is a Living Wage?
A living wage refers to a theoretical income level that allows an individual or family to afford adequate shelter, food, and the other basic necessities. The goal of a living wage is to allow employees to earn enough income for a satisfactory standard of living and to prevent them from falling into poverty. Economists suggest that a living wage should be substantial enough to ensure that no more than 30% of it gets spent on housing.

Living Wage Definition

You can talk all the shit you want but in the end there zero substance to anything you say.

I'm talking about the living wage that the Democrats have approved in the house and all the candidates are talkin about. Hillary was for $12 Sanders 15. Sorry you missed it over on the misinformation Network dingbat.

 

[Polishprince]

So the Burger flipper in in San Francisco should be paid enough to rent a 2500 dollar month apt, given "free" Insurance, buy a car etc? You're a bright one aren't you?

Of course not s*** head, but they should have more low-income housing instead of giving the money to the Rich like the GOP do. Life is tough with this ridiculous inequality you Jokers have given us. Soak the rich, even most of the rich agree LOL, Super Dupe..

So you don't really men a "living" wage. You are quite the hypocrite. As an aside where in SF would they build low income housing?

A living wage is $12 or above idiot. Oakland or wherever stupid question.

Now you are really showing how stupid you actually are.

"What Is a Living Wage?
A living wage refers to a theoretical income level that allows an individual or family to afford adequate shelter, food, and the other basic necessities. The goal of a living wage is to allow employees to earn enough income for a satisfactory standard of living and to prevent them from falling into poverty. Economists suggest that a living wage should be substantial enough to ensure that no more than 30% of it gets spent on housing.

Living Wage Definition

You can talk all the shit you want but in the end there zero substance to anything you say.

I'm talking about the living wage that the Democrats have approved in the house and all the candidates are talkin about. Hillary was for $12 Sanders 15. Sorry you missed it over on the misinformation Network dingbat.

Neither $12 or $15 is an ACTUAL living wage, regardless of how Crooked Hillary or Crazy Bernie termed their wage proposal.
A real living wage would be $51.90 an hour for San Francisco.

 

[JustAGuy1]

So the Burger flipper in in San Francisco should be paid enough to rent a 2500 dollar month apt, given "free" Insurance, buy a car etc? You're a bright one aren't you?

Of course not s*** head, but they should have more low-income housing instead of giving the money to the Rich like the GOP do. Life is tough with this ridiculous inequality you Jokers have given us. Soak the rich, even most of the rich agree LOL, Super Dupe..

So you don't really men a "living" wage. You are quite the hypocrite. As an aside where in SF would they build low income housing?

A living wage is $12 or above idiot. Oakland or wherever stupid question.

Now you are really showing how stupid you actually are.

"What Is a Living Wage?
A living wage refers to a theoretical income level that allows an individual or family to afford adequate shelter, food, and the other basic necessities. The goal of a living wage is to allow employees to earn enough income for a satisfactory standard of living and to prevent them from falling into poverty. Economists suggest that a living wage should be substantial enough to ensure that no more than 30% of it gets spent on housing.

Living Wage Definition

You can talk all the shit you want but in the end there zero substance to anything you say.

I'm talking about the living wage that the Democrats have approved in the house and all the candidates are talkin about. Hillary was for $12 Sanders 15. Sorry you missed it over on the misinformation Network dingbat.

Unlike yourself I seek out my own info, I don't watch ANY network crap. Neither 12 nor 15 is a "living wage". Like I said it's a phrase people like you throw around to make yourselves "feel" better about you and to fool your illiterate base.

It is however fun watching you dance, spin and deflect.

 

[Grumblenuts]

I don't know what I got working at the hospital but I got paid less than $1 an hour after taxes... It was less than minimum wage of 1967. But anyway the dollar 60 an hour back when it was is equal to $11 now. And Healthcare was cheap.

Relatively cheap, but still well on the way to our current disaster.
Google says: "In the year 1965, the United States minimum wage was $1.25. This is equivalent to $10.07 in 2019 dollars." That's what I made before taxes.
"In 1966, Congress enacted legislation to raise the federal minimum wage from $1.25 an hour to $1.40 in February 1967 and then to $1.60 in February 1968."

 

[Flash]

I don't like having to work to pay somebody else's heath care bills.

You pay your bills and I will pay mine. That is fair.

Nobody should be entitled to have the government make somebody else work to pay their bills simply because they are alive.

Using the government to steal is despicable.

 

[francoHFW]

Of course not s*** head, but they should have more low-income housing instead of giving the money to the Rich like the GOP do. Life is tough with this ridiculous inequality you Jokers have given us. Soak the rich, even most of the rich agree LOL, Super Dupe..

So you don't really men a "living" wage. You are quite the hypocrite. As an aside where in SF would they build low income housing?

A living wage is $12 or above idiot. Oakland or wherever stupid question.

Now you are really showing how stupid you actually are.

"What Is a Living Wage?
A living wage refers to a theoretical income level that allows an individual or family to afford adequate shelter, food, and the other basic necessities. The goal of a living wage is to allow employees to earn enough income for a satisfactory standard of living and to prevent them from falling into poverty. Economists suggest that a living wage should be substantial enough to ensure that no more than 30% of it gets spent on housing.

Living Wage Definition

You can talk all the shit you want but in the end there zero substance to anything you say.

I'm talking about the living wage that the Democrats have approved in the house and all the candidates are talkin about. Hillary was for $12 Sanders 15. Sorry you missed it over on the misinformation Network dingbat.

Neither $12 or $15 is an ACTUAL living wage, regardless of how Crooked Hillary or Crazy Bernie termed their wage proposal.
A real living wage would be $51.90 an hour for San Francisco.

let's try talking about the whole country and forget your brainwashed obsession with San Francisco. It's basically the richest city in the country. All your homeless are there from your scumbag red States LOL

 

[dblack]

It doesn't work anywhere as well as freedom.

I'm not feeling terribly free if I feel I have to stay at a job I hate in order to keep from dying...

Freedom seems to be an alien concept for you altogether.

 

[Polishprince]

So you don't really men a "living" wage. You are quite the hypocrite. As an aside where in SF would they build low income housing?

A living wage is $12 or above idiot. Oakland or wherever stupid question.

Now you are really showing how stupid you actually are.

"What Is a Living Wage?
A living wage refers to a theoretical income level that allows an individual or family to afford adequate shelter, food, and the other basic necessities. The goal of a living wage is to allow employees to earn enough income for a satisfactory standard of living and to prevent them from falling into poverty. Economists suggest that a living wage should be substantial enough to ensure that no more than 30% of it gets spent on housing.

Living Wage Definition

You can talk all the shit you want but in the end there zero substance to anything you say.

I'm talking about the living wage that the Democrats have approved in the house and all the candidates are talkin about. Hillary was for $12 Sanders 15. Sorry you missed it over on the misinformation Network dingbat.

Neither $12 or $15 is an ACTUAL living wage, regardless of how Crooked Hillary or Crazy Bernie termed their wage proposal.
A real living wage would be $51.90 an hour for San Francisco.

let's try talking about the whole country and forget your brainwashed obsession with San Francisco. It's basically the richest city in the country. All your homeless are there from your scumbag red States LOL

The cost of living really varies from city to city, I don't see how you can have one "living wage".

BTW, just because Otis Redding traveled from Georgia to Frisco so he could shit on the dock of the bay, doesn't mean he's typical of SF migrants

 

[JoeB131]

The would also lose their paycheck. Hence low unemployment is great as people get paid and receive healthcare. See how that works? If you’re too sick to work then you go on disability and are still covered. I have A logical answer you just don’t have a logical brain to comprehend it, it’s too busy trying to figure out how to blame the Jews for all the worlds problems.

Disability only covers you if qualify. My late sister went blind in the last few years of her life. It took her YEARS to get on disability, because the logic was that even though she couldn't do the work she was trained for, she could do other things.

 

[Rustic]

Someone said earlier elderly people generally have more wealth… That is a fact. But, back to the federal government it fucks you in the ass daily and you don’t even know it… LOL

You know..
It only hurts when you know it.
But you know it.

It's written all over your face!

Yep, global warming has been fucking manbearpig up the ass for decades now... lol

 

[Rustic]

Yes, yes. Life is a choice between being owned by a corporation or government.

Sorry, I'll choose neither. The slave mentality is nonsense. Shake it off, Joe.

So you are going to happily go off and die when you have a medical condition that exceeds your ability to pay medical bills?

"I'm free... freeeeeeee..." Ack.. Gasp... Croak!!!!

The world isn't binary, Joe. We don't have to choose between socialism and fascism. I'm fighting both.

Just as long as you know that communism is left-wing dictatorship, fascism is right wing dictatorship, and socialism is known everywhere in the world but GOP America as simply always democratic fair capitalism with a good safety net...."we are all socialists now!"--president of Finland when ObamaCare passed....

Lol
Socialism has 100% failure rate long-term, even though it’s been tried countless times and in countless forms you silly little fucker

That is communism super duper. Socialism is simply Fair capitalism with a good safety net and it doesn't fail. Every modern country maybe including us is socialist. If we could get our Healthcare together we would be. "We are all socialists now!"--prime minister of Finland when ObamaCare passed. Of course he did not realize what assholes the GOP are. Not you super duper LOL

Na, not really
If socialism was worth a shit you silly fuckers would keep it to yourselves. Lol

 

[JustAGuy1]

A living wage is $12 or above idiot. Oakland or wherever stupid question.

Now you are really showing how stupid you actually are.

"What Is a Living Wage?
A living wage refers to a theoretical income level that allows an individual or family to afford adequate shelter, food, and the other basic necessities. The goal of a living wage is to allow employees to earn enough income for a satisfactory standard of living and to prevent them from falling into poverty. Economists suggest that a living wage should be substantial enough to ensure that no more than 30% of it gets spent on housing.

Living Wage Definition

You can talk all the shit you want but in the end there zero substance to anything you say.

I'm talking about the living wage that the Democrats have approved in the house and all the candidates are talkin about. Hillary was for $12 Sanders 15. Sorry you missed it over on the misinformation Network dingbat.

Neither $12 or $15 is an ACTUAL living wage, regardless of how Crooked Hillary or Crazy Bernie termed their wage proposal.
A real living wage would be $51.90 an hour for San Francisco.

let's try talking about the whole country and forget your brainwashed obsession with San Francisco. It's basically the richest city in the country. All your homeless are there from your scumbag red States LOL

The cost of living really varies from city to city, I don't see how you can have one "living wage".

BTW, just because Otis Redding traveled from Georgia to Frisco so he could shit on the dock of the bay, doesn't mean he's typical of SF migrants

franco see's himself as all powerful and knowing. He see's everyone else as "lesser" beings. Never mind he never says anything but dope, dupe, and derp.

 

[dblack]

That is communism super duper. Socialism is simply Fair capitalism with ...

What makes you think you can just redefine words willy nilly? I mean, obviously you can, but why should anyone take you seriously when you do? If you're just making up your own definitions you might as well be typing gibberish.

 

[JustAGuy1]

The would also lose their paycheck. Hence low unemployment is great as people get paid and receive healthcare. See how that works? If you’re too sick to work then you go on disability and are still covered. I have A logical answer you just don’t have a logical brain to comprehend it, it’s too busy trying to figure out how to blame the Jews for all the worlds problems.

Disability only covers you if qualify. My late sister went blind in the last few years of her life. It took her YEARS to get on disability, because the logic was that even though she couldn't do the work she was trained for, she could do other things.

The waiting period has always been two tears dope. Stop whining about everything.

 

[Rustic]

What the hell are we arguing about? LOL

if we're going to have mandatory health insurance, we might as well go Medicare for all and cut the costs....

So you want to push 150mil people off their plans that they like? How about people may keep their plan and those who want to may go to the public option?

I have said that many times in the last couple of days, mandates lose elections and make things unpopular. I also said Obama was not for a mandate originally and was for a public option. That would have worked. As usual Congress screwed it up LOL but not as bad as the Republican Congresses do! Even as passed it was a great start, and then we had seven and a half years pure GOP obstruction. It can easily be fixed. I and Obama do not mind the mandate being repealed. People just hate that LOL.

Lol
But yet you still want to force everyone into your fucked up socialist entitlement programs… You’re a fucking hypocrite

How many times do I have to say it I am not for a man date for healthcare. Obama was not for a Mandates and he also wanted a public option. He was right. As always LOL I don't know what other programs you are referring to, but if anything went wrong you be damn glad they are there. It's called civilization oh, and we need more of it. Like living wage Health Care daycare paid parental leave cheap college and training. Everything the GOP blocks to save the rich from paying their fair share. Which you don't know about being a dupe.

Lol
Who pays for all that shit? If socialism was worth a shit you would keep it to yourselves you silly little fuckers

 

[JustAGuy1]

That is communism super duper. Socialism is simply Fair capitalism with ...

What makes you think you can just redefine words willy nilly? I mean, obviously you can, but why should anyone take you seriously when you do? If you're just making up your own definitions you might as well be typing gibberish.

Nobody takes him seriously, he one of the board jokes.

 

[CowboyTed]

1. Too many people are ingrained with private insurance.
2. Education is not free. Becoming a doctor is expensive, they want to get paid and pay off potential student loans. Working for the Gov't does not do that.
3. Private pay provides better care. Even in Europe, the wealthy go that route.
4. Most logical people (on both sides of the aisle) agree with #1 and #2 and #3.

Candidates Who Attacked Warren Over 'Medicare For All' Draw Massive Fundraising Boost

Have just seen this.


My daughter is pm-ing me from the emergency room (A&E in England) of an NHS hospital. And describing how ghastly it is.

Been to UK A&E a few times... Was great... They have no concept of charging people, you can't give them money if you wanted too..

Been to ones in France, Spain, Germany and Ireland...

 

[Grumblenuts]

The would also lose their paycheck. Hence low unemployment is great as people get paid and receive healthcare. See how that works? If you’re too sick to work then you go on disability and are still covered. I have A logical answer you just don’t have a logical brain to comprehend it, it’s too busy trying to figure out how to blame the Jews for all the worlds problems.

Disability only covers you if qualify. My late sister went blind in the last few years of her life. It took her YEARS to get on disability, because the logic was that even though she couldn't do the work she was trained for, she could do other things.

And then it's utterly insufficient anyway and screws your eligibility for decent SS. Makes the lawyers happy. That's about it.