Update: The Illegal Alien Vote

[Faun]

Temporary lack of evidence does not warrant dropping criminal cases.

You seem to be a fanatic who for some reason can't accept alternatives to what you have been told.

The Law supposedly prevents using the IRS against opposition groups.....but it was still done.
Law doesn't "prevent" anything. People with integrity who uphold the law do.

Do gun laws prevent bad people from taking innocent lives. The question is why do you have such absolute trust in people proven to be untrustworthy?

Given the facts, it would be illogical to conclude that there has not been significant illegal voting.
We are saying that we believe that will be proven in due course. Had Hillary been elected, it may never have been possible. Under Trump it is somewhat more possible but still there are many covering for corruption. Just because you may agree with corruption does not change the fact that it is.

LOL

he claim is some 3 to 5 MILLION illegals voted in the election.... you yahoos can't find 1.

Any day now.... any day......

 

[Faun]

Yes, Illegal Aliens Are Voting

That article states, "President Donald Trump has announced a major investigation"....

That article is 16 months old....

How many illegals did they find voting in 2016?

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Obable did tell them that he would vote if he was them!

It was not a 'they' or 'them' it was a "you" as in the interviewer named Gina, US citizen.

Exact words were "when YOU vote YOU are a citizen yourself"

Why have you decided to be a liar?

Here is the truth. You have it before you now.

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1. President Obama did not encourage undocumented immigrants to vote.Dozens of YouTube channels arerunning with an interview clip that, they allege, shows the president urging noncitizens to vote illegally. In fact, as Obama makes clear at three different points in the 30-second clip, he's speaking not to undocumented immigrants, but to their U.S.-born or naturalized children — who can and should legally vote, because they're U.S. citizens.

The interview, granted to the YouTube network MiTú, was intended to debunk voting myths in the Latino community; this specific question related to fears that any contact with the system may open up a legal voter's family to immigration scrutiny. These are Obama's remarks in full, with the relevant portions bolded:

First of all, when you vote, you are a citizen yourself. And there is not a situation where the voting rolls somehow are transferred over and people start investigating, et cetera. The sanctity of the vote is strictly confidential in terms of who you voted for.

If you have a family member who maybe is undocumented, then you have an even greater reason to vote … People are discouraged from voting, and part of what is important for Latino citizens is to make your voice heard, because you're not just speaking for yourself.You're speaking for family members, friends, classmates of yours in school who may not have a voice. Who can't legally vote. But they're counting on you to make sure that you have the courage to make your voice heard.
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No, this video does not show Obama urging undocumented people to vote

You have see the truth. Now never lie again by changing Obama's words from "you" to "they".

You are already deplorable for not going to the source, the transcript, and repeating a deplorable lie.

 

[skye]

Illegals and dead people should not vote

GOD I hate the demrats!

Why Americans allow these left scum to be in office???

 

[NotfooledbyW]

Slyhunter, post: 19843906

Same thing. They lie and they register to vote.

How do you know there are any "they's" out there lying, registering and voting, when you don't have one lick of physical evidence or valid research or Trumpo/Republican led inquiries into the problem?

What loser, nutjob, right wingers conjure up in their dishonest heads means nothing in reference to truth other than provide an outlet to channel hate, in a nonviolent way.

That's a bit of a socially redeeming benefit, I guess. But that's it. Spreading these kind of bigoted lies is still deplorable.

skye, post: 19846194

Illegals and dead people should not vote

GOD I hate the demrats!

Why Americans allow these left scum to be in office???

Illegals don't vote, and anyone using dead people's ID to vote is very rare.

The above applies to you too.

 

[Faun]

Slyhunter, post: 19843906

Same thing. They lie and they register to vote.

How do you know there are any "they's" out there lying, registering and voting, when you don't have one lick of physical evidence or valid research or Trumpo/Republican led inquiries into the problem?

What loser, nutjob, right wingers conjure up in their dishonest heads means nothing in reference to truth other than provide an outlet to channel hate, in a nonviolent way.

That's a bit of a socially redeeming benefit, I guess. But that's it. Spreading these kind of bigoted lies is still deplorable.

skye, post: 19846194

Illegals and dead people should not vote

GOD I hate the demrats!

Why Americans allow these left scum to be in office???

Illegals don't vote, and anyone using dead people's ID to vote is very rare.

The above applies to you too.

Evidence? Conservatives don’t need no stinkin’ evidence.

 

[PoliticalChic]

2. They and a dozen other states give illegals IDs and driver's licenses


3. When they sign up for driver's licenses, they are automatically registered to vote.
That is, after all, the raison d'être for Democrats giving them driver's licenses and IDs, and enticing them into the country.

Stop lying PLEASE!!

New California law gives undocumented immigrants driver's licenses - CNN

Sooo.....you believe in the tooth fairy, too....you dunce????


Pop-Quiz!


Now....first the reading comprehension part of the test:


"12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org




"If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " Registered to vote at the DMV? Check again. Many who use the new process miss a vital step two



Ready?


How many of the 12 states plus DC that allow illegals to get drivers licenses, and have voter registration in the same place (what a coincidence!) did Bill's wife win???


C'mon....guess.

And this somehow negates the proof that I posted showing that undocumented people are issued a special drivers licence that clearly states that it is for no other purpose but driving ?

Doesn't change the fact that they are registering to vote.

Bovine excrement. There is no credible evidence that undocumented PEOPLE or any none citizens are registered to vote. NONE

And here we have an example of Rule # 1.....every word from a Leftist is a lie.


1. “If there is a recount in Michigan and Trump loses by a few votes, then it’s very plausible that noncitizen voting made a big difference. Hopefully, it doesn’t come to that.”


Richman was the co-author of a 2014 study that looked at noncitizen voting in the 2008 and 2010 elections. In the comparable presidential election year, the Old Dominion study determined 6.4 percent on noncitizens in the United States voted in the 2008 presidential election, and about 81 percent of those voters backed Democrat Barack Obama.


Richman applied those numbers to 2016:


The basic assumptions on which the extrapolation is based are that 6.4 percent of noncitizens voted, and that of the noncitizens who voted, 81.8 percent voted for Clinton and 17.5 percent voted for Trump. … 6.4 percent turnout among the roughly 20.3 million noncitizen adults in the U.S. would add only 834,318 votes to Clinton’s popular vote margin. This is little more than a third of the total margin. … Is it plausible that noncitizen votes added to Clinton’s margin? Yes. Is it plausible that noncitizen votes account for the entire nationwide popular vote margin held by Clinton? Not at all.



“An issue of concern is that so many have voted that are not legally supposed to,” Miller told reporters in a conference call Monday.




Beyond the noncitizens voting study from Old Dominion, Miller pointed to the Pew study from 2012 that found 24 million voter registration records in the United States, or about 1 in 8, were “significantly inaccurate or no longer valid.”


The Pew study further found “1.8 million deceased individuals are listed as voters,” that “12 million records contain an incorrect address,” and that “2.75 million people have registrations in more than one state.”



“If 10 percent of noncitizens voted, it would likely make a popular vote difference,” Camarota told The Daily Signal. “It’s not the Electoral College [Trump] is upset about. It’s the popular vote. I wish he wouldn’t focus on it. Bill Clinton got just 43 percent of the vote in 1992. How many states did he win more than 50 percent of the vote in?”


Trump could be correct about the number of illegal votes, but there is no way to know, said Hans von Spakovsky, senior legal fellow with The Heritage Foundation who focuses on voter integrity issues."

Impact of Noncitizen Voters on the 2016 Election





2. "Three million votes in the U.S. presidential election were cast by illegal aliens, according to Greg Phillips of the VoteFraud.org organization.

If true, this would mean that Donald Trump still won the contest despite widespread vote fraud and almost certainly won the popular vote.

“We have verified more than three million votes cast by non-citizens,” tweeted Phillips after reporting that the group had completed an analysis of a database of 180 million voter registrations."
Report: Three Million Votes in Presidential Election Cast by Illegal Aliens

. How many of the absentee ballots are from the military....and who do you imagine (I almost said 'think') they voted for?




3. "Claims of votes by the dead, felons cloud North Carolina governor race"
Claims of votes by the dead, felons cloud North Carolina governor race



4. Criminal President Obama Encourages Illegal Aliens to Vote – Promises No Repercussions (VIDEO)









5. "Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’
Law firm uncovers illegal immigrants, convicted felons on rolls — and some have voted in crucial swing state
He said there is no way to know how many non-citizens might be registered to vote in Philadelphia, let alone in the rest of politically crucial Pennsylvania.

“This is just the tip of the iceberg. Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

“This is just the tip of the iceberg,” he said. “Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’


6. "12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally" 12 States (and DC) That Allow Driver's Licenses for People in the Country Illegally - Illegal Immigration - ProCon.org



7. "If you’ve visited the DMV in the last few weeks, you may have noticed that you can now complete your voter registration at the same time you renew your driver’s license — without having to fill out a separate form.... they will be registered as having no party preference. " http://www..com/politics/la-pol-ca-dmv-voter-registration-20160509-snap-story.html



"With the law about to hit the two-year mark, the California Department of Motor Vehicles announced that 806,000 illegal aliens have been granted driver licenses, according to the Bay Area’s Mercury News. 14,000 of those licenses were issued in November of this year.


In 2017, new motor voter law AB 1461 will go into effect, automatically registering most licensed California drivers to vote. As the Mercury News points out, concerns have been raised about the crossover of AB60 illegal alien licensees being illegally registered to vote as a result. Some lawmakers have claimed there are safeguards against such a case."

California Licenses 800K Illegal Aliens as Motor Voter Law Looms - Breitbart





Did I mention that only an imbecile would put 'progressive' and 'patriot' together?

They are opposites.

 

[TheProgressivePatriot]

5. "Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’
Law firm uncovers illegal immigrants, convicted felons on rolls — and some have voted in crucial swing state
He said there is no way to know how many non-citizens might be registered to vote in Philadelphia, let alone in the rest of politically crucial Pennsylvania.

“This is just the tip of the iceberg. Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

“This is just the tip of the iceberg,” he said. “Who knows how many are on and don’t ask to be taken off?”

Illegal Voters Uncovered in Philly Are ‘Tip of the Iceberg’

LifeZette has been linked to several controversies surrounding conspiracy theories and the 2016 presidential election.

Two weeks before the 2016 presidential election, the website posted a video about voting machines possibly being compromised because of links to a company tied to liberal billionaire George Soros.[12] The story that the machines were linked to Soros, which was found to be false, was also reported in numerous media outlets including The Daily Caller, Fox News, Newsmax, and The Epoch Times.[citation needed]

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ifeZette also published a video titled "Clinton Body Count", which promoted conspiracy theories regarding Bill and Hillary Clinton.[13] LifeZette removed the video and later released a statement saying that "[t]he video was made in jest, and merely noted that the theories existed," comparing them to viral videos made by "left-leaning digital outlets like BuzzFeed."[14] In September, the website published a since-removed article entitled "10 People Under the Clinton Curse", which said that it was "hard to deny that being close with the Clintons could kill you."[15]

In August 2017, it was alleged by multiple LifeZette employees that CEO Peter Anthony made sexually inappropriate comments about the publication's female staffers, which he denied.[16] LifeZette - Wikipedia

 

[basquebromance]

The left always references the Statue of liberty as the "symbol of immigration", that the statue would "welcome" them as they passed it on their way to Ellis Island. But the funny thing is that actually proves our point - The Statue of liberty "welcomed" LEGAL immigrants

 

[PoliticalChic]

The left always references the Statue of liberty as the "symbol of immigration", that the statue would "welcome" them as they passed it on their way to Ellis Island. But the funny thing is that actually proves our point - The Statue of liberty "welcomed" LEGAL immigrants

Your post is spot on.

The Democrats/Liberals need to pretend that the issue is 'immigration.'
It isn't......it's illegal immigration.....what they have admitted is necessary for their political survival.



Now....not to be picky....but, between 1886, when the Statue was dedicated, until 1918, no documentation was required to enter the United States.
So, there was no 'illegal immigration.'

The problem began with the Progressives who wanted income taxes and a welfare state.

1. The Progressives had been focused on forcing the “money class” to pay “in proportion to their ability to pay…’ which, essentially was the first half of “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.” From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs - Wikipedia

1. The Progressives launched a campaign culminated with the ratification of the 16th Amendment, in 1913.
2. In 1964 they changed the immigration system to flood the nation with the third world, because they recognized that this was a goldmine of votes.
3. Obama proved his by telling illegal aliens to vote in the election.....he actually said "when you vote, you're a citizen.'

 

[NotfooledbyW]

"Election administrators have reported that eligible Americans will even respond that they are not citizens to jury service questionnaires just to get out of jury duty."

"Americans check the wrong box for citizenship or do not check any box at all."

PolChic's researcher count these as non-citizens in some cases, falsely inflating illegals voting numbers in their research.

Their research shows that perhaps as many as 0.001 of regestered voters in one area studied may have been non-citizens.


PoliticalChic, post: 19847009

every word from a Leftist is a lie.

Sure.

Your main research source lies a lot.

3. The paper’s numbers are sloppy.According to the paper, the 616 number is built from a lot of sources, including 472 persons who either indicated citizenship or failed to indicate citizenship at all, and 115 people who asked election officials to get them off the rolls because they were non-citizens. The balance consists of persons who declined jury service allegedly on citizenship grounds (9), and others allegedly identified by Department of Homeland Security or US Citizenship and Immigration Services (20). Two of those sources typically artificially inflate the rates of non-citizens on the rolls. One comes from examining citizenship check boxes on the voter registration portion of drivers’ license applications. Election administrators, who have investigated allegations of non-citizen voting, report that sometimes eligible Americans check the wrong box for citizenship or do not check any box at all. This warrants a very careful look given the overwhelming majority of alleged cases that come from this source. The second is jury service records, which inquire as to American citizenship to see who is eligible to serve. Election administrators have reported that eligible Americans will even respond that they are not citizens to jury service questionnaires just to get out of jury duty. It’s behavior to be condemned and punished, certainly, but not evidence of fraud. While there were a small number of these persons referenced in the paper, any incorrect self-reporting would also artificially bump up the number of supposed non-citizens who are registered.

Public Interest Legal Foundation Paper Appears to Undermine Its Own Central Claim

This is partly why non-citizen voters are very very very very rarely prosecuted for voting illegally.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

 

[koshergrl]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Pshaw, are you going to believe what your eyes and ears tell you..or are you going to believe what a progressive tells you what it MEANS?

 

[edward37]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Planted by the Republicans

 

[ph3iron]

O

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

out of tens of millions.
You really have way too much time on your hands.
Uneducated old white fart sucking off your commie benefits?

 

[ph3iron]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Pshaw, are you going to believe what your eyes and ears tell you..or are you going to believe what a progressive tells you what it MEANS?

I'm with Ben Franklin who tried to ban German immigrants "they are swarthy, can't speak our language and are taking our jobs"
Sound familiar?.
Goes with the "no Irish or dogs" rental statements.
Nothing's changed

 

[PoliticalChic]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Pshaw, are you going to believe what your eyes and ears tell you..or are you going to believe what a progressive tells you what it MEANS?

I'm with Ben Franklin who tried to ban German immigrants "they are swarthy, can't speak our language and are taking our jobs"
Sound familiar?.
Goes with the "no Irish or dogs" rental statements.
Nothing's changed

Your misconception is based on the fact that I am an American, while your interests lie elsewhere.

You lack an understanding of history, as well.
There was no such thing as a illegal alien in Franklin's time.

 

[PoliticalChic]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Planted by the Republicans

Link or lie.

 

[ph3iron]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Pshaw, are you going to believe what your eyes and ears tell you..or are you going to believe what a progressive tells you what it MEANS?

I'm with Ben Franklin who tried to ban German immigrants "they are swarthy, can't speak our language and are taking our jobs"
Sound familiar?.
Goes with the "no Irish or dogs" rental statements.
Nothing's changed

Your misconception is based on the fact that I am an American, while your interests lie elsewhere.

You lack an understanding of history, as well.
There was no such thing as a illegal alien in Franklin's time.

Illegal is a fairly recent thing
1920s?
Apologies, I'm a filthy rich American corporate guy.
Been sucking of the uneducated white boys all my life.
Good old American way.
I didn't say Ben said they were illegal.
Just he didn't like them.
Prob your white boys like mine walked in here and we're not Chinese.
We prob would have been illegal too

 

[Faun]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Aww, how sad. Poor PoliticalHack is so desperate for attention, she’s bumping her own thread again.