Update: The Illegal Alien Vote

[PoliticalChic]

 

[Slyhunter]

We don't need more welfare recipients.

 

[RealDave]

We don't need more welfare recipients.

Afraid of losing your welfare?

 

[PoliticalChic]

We don't need more welfare recipients.

The Democrats do....as they've admitted here:

"A secret strategy memo from the Left’s most influential think tank warns that Democrats face electoral oblivion unless they immediately double-down on their support for the young illegal immigrants known as the DREAMers.

DREAMers are a “critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,” according to the memo dated Jan. 8.

Shielding DACA beneficiaries from enforced removal is so important to the left-wing agenda that Democrats have to “refuse to offer any votes for Republican spending bills that do not offer a fix for Dreamers and instead appropriate funds to deport them.”

“The fight to protect Dreamers is not only a moral imperative, it is also a critical component of the Democratic Party’s future electoral success,” states Palmieri’s memo.

“If Democrats don’t try to do everything in their power to defend Dreamers, that will jeopardize Democrats’ electoral chances in 2018 and beyond,” the memo states. “In short, the next few weeks will tell us a lot about the Democratic Party and its long-term electoral prospects.”


…they tend to be underachievers, less educated and less established than typical Americans.

According to the nonpartisan Center for Immigration Studies, about 24 percent of DREAMers are functionally illiterate and 46 percent possess only “basic” English ability. Only 49 percent have a high school diploma, even though a majority are now adults.”
Democrats Must Embrace DREAMers or Face Doom, Says Secret Left-Wing Memo

 

[PoliticalChic]

We don't need more welfare recipients.

Afraid of losing your welfare?

Welfare recipients vote Democrat, RealDumb.

 

[Slyhunter]

We don't need more welfare recipients.

Afraid of losing your welfare?

Welfare recipients vote Democrat, RealDumb.

My sister and mother would not be Welfare recipients if they would give my sister her disability. She can't work. They say she can do a sit down job. No sit down job would give her time off every time she has a period, and she has them frequently. Painful bloody ones. Goes with her Liver Psoriasis. And missing Gallbladder. Not sure how, but she's fucked up man.

 

[Seawytch]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Did he have any vote history? (Trumpkins don’t understand the difference between registration and voter fraud)

 

[PoliticalChic]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Did he have any vote history? (Trumpkins don’t understand the difference between registration and voter fraud)

There are 60 to 80 million illegal aliens residing in this country, at the behest of the Democrats, who require their votes.

The snake, Hussein Obama, encouraged them to vote.

The issue in the election was whether they'd enjoy continued residency. Of course they'd vote....and they did.

5% of 'em???

10%????

More????


Obama told them there'd be no recriminations. Of course they'd vote....they'd already broken the law to get here.



And low-lives, you, deny these facts.

For Democrats, party is more important than the country.

 

[TroglocratsRdumb]

12 Texas Counties Hold More Registered Voters than Adults, Says Study
“Voter fraud begins with corrupted voter rolls,” said J. Christian Adams, PILF President and member of President Trump’s Advisory Commission on Election Integrity. “Our nation’s voter rolls have records that cannot be distinguished between living or dead; citizen or alien; resident or relocated.”

Democrats use illegal aliens to cancel-out the votes of American citizens.
Millions of Americans are having their Right to Vote being violated.
Democrats are Anti-Voting Rights.

 

[Faun]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Did he have any vote history? (Trumpkins don’t understand the difference between registration and voter fraud)

There are 60 to 80 million illegal aliens residing in this country, at the behest of the Democrats, who require their votes.

The snake, Hussein Obama, encouraged them to vote.

The issue in the election was whether they'd enjoy continued residency. Of course they'd vote....and they did.

5% of 'em???

10%????

More????


Obama told them there'd be no recriminations. Of course they'd vote....they'd already broken the law to get here.



And low-lives, you, deny these facts.

For Democrats, party is more important than the country.

80 million illegal aliens in the US?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

There's about 320 million people in the US. Just how fucked in the head are you to claim 1 in 4 people here are illegal aliens?

 

[Slyhunter]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Did he have any vote history? (Trumpkins don’t understand the difference between registration and voter fraud)

There are 60 to 80 million illegal aliens residing in this country, at the behest of the Democrats, who require their votes.

The snake, Hussein Obama, encouraged them to vote.

The issue in the election was whether they'd enjoy continued residency. Of course they'd vote....and they did.

5% of 'em???

10%????

More????


Obama told them there'd be no recriminations. Of course they'd vote....they'd already broken the law to get here.



And low-lives, you, deny these facts.

For Democrats, party is more important than the country.

80 million illegal aliens in the US?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

There's about 320 million people in the US. Just how fucked in the head are you to claim 1 in 4 people here are illegal aliens?

320 million legal citizens plus 80 million illegal ones ie 400 million.
Plus that 320 million was a quote on how many citizens we had from like 10 years ago.

 

[Faun]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Did he have any vote history? (Trumpkins don’t understand the difference between registration and voter fraud)

There are 60 to 80 million illegal aliens residing in this country, at the behest of the Democrats, who require their votes.

The snake, Hussein Obama, encouraged them to vote.

The issue in the election was whether they'd enjoy continued residency. Of course they'd vote....and they did.

5% of 'em???

10%????

More????


Obama told them there'd be no recriminations. Of course they'd vote....they'd already broken the law to get here.



And low-lives, you, deny these facts.

For Democrats, party is more important than the country.

80 million illegal aliens in the US?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

There's about 320 million people in the US. Just how fucked in the head are you to claim 1 in 4 people here are illegal aliens?

320 million legal citizens plus 80 million illegal ones ie 400 million.
Plus that 320 million was a quote on how many citizens we had from like 10 years ago.

U.S. population = 328 million

Population Clock

Now prove there are really 408 million people in the U.S. ...

 

[Slyhunter]

"DOCUMENTS: MURDERED ILLEGAL ALIEN HEROIN DEALER WAS SOMEHOW A REGISTERED DEMOCRAT"
Documents: Murdered Illegal Alien Heroin Dealer Was Somehow A Registered Democrat

Did he have any vote history? (Trumpkins don’t understand the difference between registration and voter fraud)

There are 60 to 80 million illegal aliens residing in this country, at the behest of the Democrats, who require their votes.

The snake, Hussein Obama, encouraged them to vote.

The issue in the election was whether they'd enjoy continued residency. Of course they'd vote....and they did.

5% of 'em???

10%????

More????


Obama told them there'd be no recriminations. Of course they'd vote....they'd already broken the law to get here.



And low-lives, you, deny these facts.

For Democrats, party is more important than the country.

80 million illegal aliens in the US?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

There's about 320 million people in the US. Just how fucked in the head are you to claim 1 in 4 people here are illegal aliens?

320 million legal citizens plus 80 million illegal ones ie 400 million.
Plus that 320 million was a quote on how many citizens we had from like 10 years ago.

U.S. population = 328 million

Population Clock

Now prove there are really 408 million people in the U.S. ...

Kind of hard to do when the left wing media controls the news.

The mainstream media, whenever it actually mentions the number of illegal aliens living in the United States, categorically quotes the official government figure of 8-12 million. This number originated with the Department of Homeland Security, which in December 2003 estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens resided in the United States and that 700,000 new illegals enter each year and remain in the country.1Those stale, outdated estimates have not changed for over 13 years, even though the official annual increase alone would yield a corrected estimate of 15.7 million to 19.7 million illegal aliens today (not adjusting for Obama's unconstitutional 2014 executive amnesty).

Even though it is quite clear that huge numbers of illegal aliens sneak into our country and avoid capture at our border, the media as well as government agencies seem quite content to under-report these numbers. The static official estimates are somewhat suspect, as they are produced by the very entity responsible for the tidal wave of illegal aliens entering our nation - the United States Government. Alternative methodologies estimate a range of numbers that is likely more realistic.
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research
Alternative methodologies conclude that between 20 million and 40 million illegal aliens have evaded apprehension and live in the United States.

Nancy Boulton pointed out that two researchers at Bear Stearns Asset Management estimated that the number of illegal immigrants in 2005 could be as high as 20 million. Their figures were based on an analysis of the large discrepancy between official census estimates and growth in indicators such as remittances to the countries of origin, school enrollment and building permits.5,8

Bolton also notes that:

If even one person is successful for every apprehension, it implies over 1 million foreigners per year illegally cross our southern border. In addition, there are roughly 30 million foreign nationals admitted to the U.S. each year on temporary visas. There are no data on the percentage of these visitors who overstay their visas, but data from the Australian Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs indicate about 8 percent of those admitted to that country on temporary visas overstay their visa and about 86 percent of those overstay by a year or more. If just 1 percent of the 30 million admitted on temporary visas to the U.S. do not leave as they are required to, that adds another 300,000 foreigners illegally in the U.S. each year.

Walsh concludes that the number is closer to 2 times 20 million, or 40 million.4 Walsh notes that in 1992,

...an investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice Inspector General found INS statistics suspect and cited deliberate deception by senior INS officials tampering with immigration statistics... U.S. Border Patrol agents confided that they were told to cap apprehensions and deportations to conform to the desires of various Administrations to create at least a public perception of border control.

Walsh focuses on the ratio of illegal alien apprehensions to those who escaped apprehension, noting that:

The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 millio a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.

Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.
He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports. Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States.

Conclusion
Using the latest conservative Census Bureau data from 2010 and 2011, the Center for Immigration Studies reports that more than 50 million immigrants (legal and illegal) live in the United States, and that "Absent a change in policy, between 12 and 15 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) will likely settle in the United States in the next decade. And perhaps 30 million new immigrants will arrive in the next 20 years."10

The magnitude of the numbers of illegal aliens in the United States represents a serious crisis and urgent need for a return to the rule of law and secured borders that the United States Constitution demands.

2011-2018 7 years times 2 million per year is 14 million = 65 million here now. Close enough.

 

[Faun]

Did he have any vote history? (Trumpkins don’t understand the difference between registration and voter fraud)

There are 60 to 80 million illegal aliens residing in this country, at the behest of the Democrats, who require their votes.

The snake, Hussein Obama, encouraged them to vote.

The issue in the election was whether they'd enjoy continued residency. Of course they'd vote....and they did.

5% of 'em???

10%????

More????


Obama told them there'd be no recriminations. Of course they'd vote....they'd already broken the law to get here.



And low-lives, you, deny these facts.

For Democrats, party is more important than the country.

80 million illegal aliens in the US?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

There's about 320 million people in the US. Just how fucked in the head are you to claim 1 in 4 people here are illegal aliens?

320 million legal citizens plus 80 million illegal ones ie 400 million.
Plus that 320 million was a quote on how many citizens we had from like 10 years ago.

U.S. population = 328 million

Population Clock

Now prove there are really 408 million people in the U.S. ...

Kind of hard to do when the left wing media controls the news.

The mainstream media, whenever it actually mentions the number of illegal aliens living in the United States, categorically quotes the official government figure of 8-12 million. This number originated with the Department of Homeland Security, which in December 2003 estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens resided in the United States and that 700,000 new illegals enter each year and remain in the country.1Those stale, outdated estimates have not changed for over 13 years, even though the official annual increase alone would yield a corrected estimate of 15.7 million to 19.7 million illegal aliens today (not adjusting for Obama's unconstitutional 2014 executive amnesty).

Even though it is quite clear that huge numbers of illegal aliens sneak into our country and avoid capture at our border, the media as well as government agencies seem quite content to under-report these numbers. The static official estimates are somewhat suspect, as they are produced by the very entity responsible for the tidal wave of illegal aliens entering our nation - the United States Government. Alternative methodologies estimate a range of numbers that is likely more realistic.
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research
Alternative methodologies conclude that between 20 million and 40 million illegal aliens have evaded apprehension and live in the United States.

Nancy Boulton pointed out that two researchers at Bear Stearns Asset Management estimated that the number of illegal immigrants in 2005 could be as high as 20 million. Their figures were based on an analysis of the large discrepancy between official census estimates and growth in indicators such as remittances to the countries of origin, school enrollment and building permits.5,8

Bolton also notes that:

If even one person is successful for every apprehension, it implies over 1 million foreigners per year illegally cross our southern border. In addition, there are roughly 30 million foreign nationals admitted to the U.S. each year on temporary visas. There are no data on the percentage of these visitors who overstay their visas, but data from the Australian Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs indicate about 8 percent of those admitted to that country on temporary visas overstay their visa and about 86 percent of those overstay by a year or more. If just 1 percent of the 30 million admitted on temporary visas to the U.S. do not leave as they are required to, that adds another 300,000 foreigners illegally in the U.S. each year.

Walsh concludes that the number is closer to 2 times 20 million, or 40 million.4 Walsh notes that in 1992,

...an investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice Inspector General found INS statistics suspect and cited deliberate deception by senior INS officials tampering with immigration statistics... U.S. Border Patrol agents confided that they were told to cap apprehensions and deportations to conform to the desires of various Administrations to create at least a public perception of border control.

Walsh focuses on the ratio of illegal alien apprehensions to those who escaped apprehension, noting that:

The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 millio a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.

Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.
He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports. Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States.

Conclusion
Using the latest conservative Census Bureau data from 2010 and 2011, the Center for Immigration Studies reports that more than 50 million immigrants (legal and illegal) live in the United States, and that "Absent a change in policy, between 12 and 15 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) will likely settle in the United States in the next decade. And perhaps 30 million new immigrants will arrive in the next 20 years."10

The magnitude of the numbers of illegal aliens in the United States represents a serious crisis and urgent need for a return to the rule of law and secured borders that the United States Constitution demands.

2011-2018 7 years times 2 million per year is 14 million = 65 million here now. Close enough.

LOL

There's zero evidence that number has swelled by 2 million per year.

Furthermore, using Walsh's estimates is patently stupid. He claimed there were 38 million illegals from just 1995-2005. Well if your going to assert that means that number applies equally since 2005, it also applies to prior to 1995. So add another 38 million for the years 1984-1994 and add another 38 million for the years, 2006-2016. Plus another 4 million for 2017 ....

....and now you're push 120 million illegal aliens in the US.

Out of about 328 million people.

So now you're idiotically suggesting more than 1 in 3 people in the US is an illegal alien.

See now why most folks think conservatives are insane?

Oh, and lastly.....

One way to think about the above estimates is that for every million illegal immigrants in the country there is a lifetime fiscal drain of $65.3 billion on public coffers. If we assume there are 11.43 million illegal immigrants in the country, then the total fiscal costs they create during their lifetimes using the net present value concept is $746.3 billion.25 In short, the savings associated with removing or causing even a modest fraction of the 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants in the country to return home would be significant.

~ Center for Immigration Studies​

 

[Slyhunter]

There are 60 to 80 million illegal aliens residing in this country, at the behest of the Democrats, who require their votes.

The snake, Hussein Obama, encouraged them to vote.

The issue in the election was whether they'd enjoy continued residency. Of course they'd vote....and they did.

5% of 'em???

10%????

More????


Obama told them there'd be no recriminations. Of course they'd vote....they'd already broken the law to get here.



And low-lives, you, deny these facts.

For Democrats, party is more important than the country.

80 million illegal aliens in the US?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

There's about 320 million people in the US. Just how fucked in the head are you to claim 1 in 4 people here are illegal aliens?

320 million legal citizens plus 80 million illegal ones ie 400 million.
Plus that 320 million was a quote on how many citizens we had from like 10 years ago.

U.S. population = 328 million

Population Clock

Now prove there are really 408 million people in the U.S. ...

Kind of hard to do when the left wing media controls the news.

The mainstream media, whenever it actually mentions the number of illegal aliens living in the United States, categorically quotes the official government figure of 8-12 million. This number originated with the Department of Homeland Security, which in December 2003 estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens resided in the United States and that 700,000 new illegals enter each year and remain in the country.1Those stale, outdated estimates have not changed for over 13 years, even though the official annual increase alone would yield a corrected estimate of 15.7 million to 19.7 million illegal aliens today (not adjusting for Obama's unconstitutional 2014 executive amnesty).

Even though it is quite clear that huge numbers of illegal aliens sneak into our country and avoid capture at our border, the media as well as government agencies seem quite content to under-report these numbers. The static official estimates are somewhat suspect, as they are produced by the very entity responsible for the tidal wave of illegal aliens entering our nation - the United States Government. Alternative methodologies estimate a range of numbers that is likely more realistic.
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research
Alternative methodologies conclude that between 20 million and 40 million illegal aliens have evaded apprehension and live in the United States.

Nancy Boulton pointed out that two researchers at Bear Stearns Asset Management estimated that the number of illegal immigrants in 2005 could be as high as 20 million. Their figures were based on an analysis of the large discrepancy between official census estimates and growth in indicators such as remittances to the countries of origin, school enrollment and building permits.5,8

Bolton also notes that:

If even one person is successful for every apprehension, it implies over 1 million foreigners per year illegally cross our southern border. In addition, there are roughly 30 million foreign nationals admitted to the U.S. each year on temporary visas. There are no data on the percentage of these visitors who overstay their visas, but data from the Australian Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs indicate about 8 percent of those admitted to that country on temporary visas overstay their visa and about 86 percent of those overstay by a year or more. If just 1 percent of the 30 million admitted on temporary visas to the U.S. do not leave as they are required to, that adds another 300,000 foreigners illegally in the U.S. each year.

Walsh concludes that the number is closer to 2 times 20 million, or 40 million.4 Walsh notes that in 1992,

...an investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice Inspector General found INS statistics suspect and cited deliberate deception by senior INS officials tampering with immigration statistics... U.S. Border Patrol agents confided that they were told to cap apprehensions and deportations to conform to the desires of various Administrations to create at least a public perception of border control.

Walsh focuses on the ratio of illegal alien apprehensions to those who escaped apprehension, noting that:

The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 millio a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.

Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.
He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports. Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States.

Conclusion
Using the latest conservative Census Bureau data from 2010 and 2011, the Center for Immigration Studies reports that more than 50 million immigrants (legal and illegal) live in the United States, and that "Absent a change in policy, between 12 and 15 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) will likely settle in the United States in the next decade. And perhaps 30 million new immigrants will arrive in the next 20 years."10

The magnitude of the numbers of illegal aliens in the United States represents a serious crisis and urgent need for a return to the rule of law and secured borders that the United States Constitution demands.

2011-2018 7 years times 2 million per year is 14 million = 65 million here now. Close enough.

LOL

There's zero evidence that number has swelled by 2 million per year.

Furthermore, using Walsh's estimates is patently stupid. He claimed there were 38 million illegals from just 1995-2005. Well if your going to assert that means that number applies equally since 2005, it also applies to prior to 1995. So add another 38 million for the years 1984-1994 and add another 38 million for the years, 2006-2016. Plus another 4 million for 2017 ....

....and now you're push 120 million illegal aliens in the US.

Out of about 328 million people.

So now you're idiotically suggesting more than 1 in 3 people in the US is an illegal alien.

See now why most folks think conservatives are insane?

Oh, and lastly.....

One way to think about the above estimates is that for every million illegal immigrants in the country there is a lifetime fiscal drain of $65.3 billion on public coffers. If we assume there are 11.43 million illegal immigrants in the country, then the total fiscal costs they create during their lifetimes using the net present value concept is $746.3 billion.25 In short, the savings associated with removing or causing even a modest fraction of the 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants in the country to return home would be significant.

~ Center for Immigration Studies​

Your numbers don't count the ones who went back.

 

[Faun]

80 million illegal aliens in the US?

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

There's about 320 million people in the US. Just how fucked in the head are you to claim 1 in 4 people here are illegal aliens?

320 million legal citizens plus 80 million illegal ones ie 400 million.
Plus that 320 million was a quote on how many citizens we had from like 10 years ago.

U.S. population = 328 million

Population Clock

Now prove there are really 408 million people in the U.S. ...

Kind of hard to do when the left wing media controls the news.

The mainstream media, whenever it actually mentions the number of illegal aliens living in the United States, categorically quotes the official government figure of 8-12 million. This number originated with the Department of Homeland Security, which in December 2003 estimated 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens resided in the United States and that 700,000 new illegals enter each year and remain in the country.1Those stale, outdated estimates have not changed for over 13 years, even though the official annual increase alone would yield a corrected estimate of 15.7 million to 19.7 million illegal aliens today (not adjusting for Obama's unconstitutional 2014 executive amnesty).

Even though it is quite clear that huge numbers of illegal aliens sneak into our country and avoid capture at our border, the media as well as government agencies seem quite content to under-report these numbers. The static official estimates are somewhat suspect, as they are produced by the very entity responsible for the tidal wave of illegal aliens entering our nation - the United States Government. Alternative methodologies estimate a range of numbers that is likely more realistic.
How many illegal aliens reside in the United States? | CAIRCO - Colorado Alliance for Immigration Reform | issues legislation projects research
Alternative methodologies conclude that between 20 million and 40 million illegal aliens have evaded apprehension and live in the United States.

Nancy Boulton pointed out that two researchers at Bear Stearns Asset Management estimated that the number of illegal immigrants in 2005 could be as high as 20 million. Their figures were based on an analysis of the large discrepancy between official census estimates and growth in indicators such as remittances to the countries of origin, school enrollment and building permits.5,8

Bolton also notes that:

If even one person is successful for every apprehension, it implies over 1 million foreigners per year illegally cross our southern border. In addition, there are roughly 30 million foreign nationals admitted to the U.S. each year on temporary visas. There are no data on the percentage of these visitors who overstay their visas, but data from the Australian Department of Immigration and Multicultural Affairs indicate about 8 percent of those admitted to that country on temporary visas overstay their visa and about 86 percent of those overstay by a year or more. If just 1 percent of the 30 million admitted on temporary visas to the U.S. do not leave as they are required to, that adds another 300,000 foreigners illegally in the U.S. each year.

Walsh concludes that the number is closer to 2 times 20 million, or 40 million.4 Walsh notes that in 1992,

...an investigation by the U.S. Department of Justice Inspector General found INS statistics suspect and cited deliberate deception by senior INS officials tampering with immigration statistics... U.S. Border Patrol agents confided that they were told to cap apprehensions and deportations to conform to the desires of various Administrations to create at least a public perception of border control.

Walsh focuses on the ratio of illegal alien apprehensions to those who escaped apprehension, noting that:

The average number of recorded apprehensions of illegal aliens in the United States now hovers at 1.2 millio a year [in 2007]. A DHS report, Border Apprehensions: 2005, documented 1.3 million apprehensions in 2005. For the 10-year period (1996–2005), the highest number of apprehensions, 1.8 million, occurred in 2000, and the lowest, 1 million, in 2003. These DHS statistics contradict persistent statements by other government agencies that only 400,000 to 500,000 illegal aliens enter the country each year.

Journeymen Border Patrol agents (on the job five years or more) estimate that a minimum of five illegal aliens enter the United States for each apprehension, and more likely seven. That informed estimate would raise the total number of illegal aliens entering the United States in 2003 to 8 million men, women, and children.
He concludes that:

My estimate of 38 million illegal aliens residing in the United States is calculated, however, using a conservative annual rate of entry (allowing for deaths and returns to their homelands) of three illegal aliens entering the United States for each one apprehended. My estimate includes apprehensions at the Southern Border (by far, the majority), at the Northern Border, along the Pacific, Atlantic, and Gulf of Mexico coasts, and at seaports and airports. Taking the DHS average of 1.2 million apprehensions per year and multiplying it by 3 comes to 3.6 million illegal entries per year; then multiplying that number by 10 for the 1996–2005 period, my calculations come to 36 million illegal entries into the United States. Add to this the approximately 2 million visa overstays during the same period, and the total is 38 million illegal aliens currently in the United States.

Conclusion
Using the latest conservative Census Bureau data from 2010 and 2011, the Center for Immigration Studies reports that more than 50 million immigrants (legal and illegal) live in the United States, and that "Absent a change in policy, between 12 and 15 million new immigrants (legal and illegal) will likely settle in the United States in the next decade. And perhaps 30 million new immigrants will arrive in the next 20 years."10

The magnitude of the numbers of illegal aliens in the United States represents a serious crisis and urgent need for a return to the rule of law and secured borders that the United States Constitution demands.

2011-2018 7 years times 2 million per year is 14 million = 65 million here now. Close enough.

LOL

There's zero evidence that number has swelled by 2 million per year.

Furthermore, using Walsh's estimates is patently stupid. He claimed there were 38 million illegals from just 1995-2005. Well if your going to assert that means that number applies equally since 2005, it also applies to prior to 1995. So add another 38 million for the years 1984-1994 and add another 38 million for the years, 2006-2016. Plus another 4 million for 2017 ....

....and now you're push 120 million illegal aliens in the US.

Out of about 328 million people.

So now you're idiotically suggesting more than 1 in 3 people in the US is an illegal alien.

See now why most folks think conservatives are insane?

Oh, and lastly.....

One way to think about the above estimates is that for every million illegal immigrants in the country there is a lifetime fiscal drain of $65.3 billion on public coffers. If we assume there are 11.43 million illegal immigrants in the country, then the total fiscal costs they create during their lifetimes using the net present value concept is $746.3 billion.25 In short, the savings associated with removing or causing even a modest fraction of the 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants in the country to return home would be significant.

~ Center for Immigration Studies​

Your numbers don't count the ones who went back.

They're not my numbers -- they're Walsh's. He's the one claiming almost 4 million illegals come, and stay in, the US every year. 33 years, starting from 1984, times 3.8 million per year, is over 125 million. Add another 10 million for those who were already here before 1984 and now we're up to 135 million. Out of 328 million in this country mean 41%, or roughly 1 out of every 2½ people here, are illegal aliens.

You wanted to reference that wackado as a source, you're now stuck with his numbers.

When will you concede this insanity? And again....

One way to think about the above estimates is that for every million illegal immigrants in the country there is a lifetime fiscal drain of $65.3 billion on public coffers. If we assume there are 11.43 million illegal immigrants in the country, then the total fiscal costs they create during their lifetimes using the net present value concept is $746.3 billion.25 In short, the savings associated with removing or causing even a modest fraction of the 11 to 12 million illegal immigrants in the country to return home would be significant.

~ Center for Immigration Studies​

 

[PoliticalChic]

"Immigration and the economy are voters' top issue priorities

ECONOMY, IMMIGRATION TOP VOTERS' PRIORITY LISTS: POLL, 7/10/2018

As the parties head toward elections this fall, a new poll from Reuters and Ipsos says voters are most concerned about immigration and the economy, two issues where Republicans feel they have an advantage, according to GOP pollster Conor Maguire."
Economy, immigration top voters' priority lists: poll



To clarify.....when the media or the Democrats use the word 'immigration,' they actually mean 'illegal immigration.'


And that particularly effects the economy in terms of blacks...

Obama's US Civil Rights Commission, 2010 Report:
"The United States Commission on Civil Rights (Commission) is pleased to transmit this report, The Impact of Illegal Immigration on the Wages and Employment Opportunities of Black Workers. A panel of experts briefed members of the Commission on April 4, 2008 regarding the evidence for economic loss and job opportunity costs to black workers attributable to illegal immigration. The panelists also described non-economic factors contributing to the depression of black wages and employment rates.

Illegal immigration to the United States in recent decades has tended to depress both wages and employment rates for low-skilled American citizens, a disproportionate number of whom are black men."
http://www.usccr.gov/pubs/IllegImmig_10-14-10_430pm.pdf



Clearly, Democrats will do anything, throw anyone under the bus, for votes.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Surprise, we agree! Of course the details of what and how and where the extreme vetting occurs.

 

[danielpalos]

Change the law so everyone is a Tourist unless they Specifically apply for permanent residence or citizenship.

We should be Good capitalists and Make money, not lose money; only lousy capitalists, do that.

 

[Kondor3]

Time to require Voter ID cards.

And to hell with LibProg objections in the matter.

Although I suggest waiting until Kavanaugh is seated.