JoeB131
Diamond Member
You're pretty cocky and Judgemental for a rear echelon guy sissy boy.
And yet probably have still done more than you ever have...
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You're pretty cocky and Judgemental for a rear echelon guy sissy boy.
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Exactly. In the last fifty or sixty years, how many films and other artistic renditions have been made denigrating Jesus? Or religion/Christianity in general? .
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Exactly. In the last fifty or sixty years, how many films and other artistic renditions have been made denigrating Jesus? Or religion/Christianity in general? .
Good question. Why don't you make a list?
Well. Last Temptation of Christ.
And.
Umm....
Errrr....
Gee, not seeing a whole lot.
If anything, Hollywood seems to go out of its way NOT to offend Christians.
For instance, in the original Graphic Novel ("God Loves, Man kills") X-Men 2 was based on, the main villlian, Stryker, was portrayed as a Televangelist. When this finally got made into a movie that wasn't HALF as good as the comic, they changed the character into a crazy General.
On the other hand, Muslim Terrorists were often the go-to villians for movies in the 1990's and early Oughts.
Guess what, when someone made a film called The Last Temptation of Christ depicting Jesus unfavorably Christians were upset about it, but they did not attack any embassies, riot in the streets, or kill anyone. That makes your entire post make about as much sense as it would if I let my cat walk on the keyboard and posted it.
You aren't talking responsibility, you are talking about taking away people's rights because you think you are smarter than they are. You already lost the argument with the lamppost, but you are still arguing away. Keep arguing a point that is already settled, it makes you look even dumber than you are.
Yes they did cocksucker, they attacked the Saint Michel theater in Paris
Yes, that was done by a tiny elitist radical fundamentalist group attached to no Christian organization, it was universally condemned by Christian groups all over the world, and the proponents were arrested and appropriately dealt with by the authorities. It is highly unlikely they could have generated a riot by anybody, let alone Christians who practice the Christian faith.
Guess what, when someone made a film called The Last Temptation of Christ depicting Jesus unfavorably Christians were upset about it, but they did not attack any embassies, riot in the streets, or kill anyone. That makes your entire post make about as much sense as it would if I let my cat walk on the keyboard and posted it.
You aren't talking responsibility, you are talking about taking away people's rights because you think you are smarter than they are. You already lost the argument with the lamppost, but you are still arguing away. Keep arguing a point that is already settled, it makes you look even dumber than you are.
Yes they did cocksucker, they attacked the Saint Michel theater in Paris
Yes, that was done by a tiny elitist radical fundamentalist group attached to no Christian organization, it was universally condemned by Christian groups all over the world, and the proponents were arrested and appropriately dealt with by the authorities. It is highly unlikely they could have generated a riot by anybody, let alone Christians who practice the Christian faith.
This was 9/11, there should have been Marines there guarding our people? Maybe they should have been moved for this day, maybe Obama shouldn't trust American lives to muslim whack jobs whom we don't even know. Obama is a joke and so are you and all you liberal idiots
Actually, all non-essential personnel were removed from the Cairo embassy... which was the prudent thing to do.
Bhenghazi was a consulate, not an embassy.
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Exactly. In the last fifty or sixty years, how many films and other artistic renditions have been made denigrating Jesus? Or religion/Christianity in general? .
Good question. Why don't you make a list?
Well. Last Temptation of Christ.
And.
Umm....
Errrr....
Gee, not seeing a whole lot.
If anything, Hollywood seems to go out of its way NOT to offend Christians.
For instance, in the original Graphic Novel ("God Loves, Man kills") X-Men 2 was based on, the main villlian, Stryker, was portrayed as a Televangelist. When this finally got made into a movie that wasn't HALF as good as the comic, they changed the character into a crazy General.
On the other hand, Muslim Terrorists were often the go-to villians for movies in the 1990's and early Oughts.
This shows how stupid you are Joe
Hollywood goes out of its way to offend Christians
Major League
Bull Durham
Last Temptation of Christ
Robin Hood (Costner version)
and on and on and on.....nobody kills anybody.
Islam is an inferior religion, and your bigotry makes you an inferior man.
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Exactly. In the last fifty or sixty years, how many films and other artistic renditions have been made denigrating Jesus? Or religion/Christianity in general? .
Good question. Why don't you make a list?
Well. Last Temptation of Christ.
And.
Umm....
Errrr....
Gee, not seeing a whole lot.
If anything, Hollywood seems to go out of its way NOT to offend Christians.
For instance, in the original Graphic Novel ("God Loves, Man kills") X-Men 2 was based on, the main villlian, Stryker, was portrayed as a Televangelist. When this finally got made into a movie that wasn't HALF as good as the comic, they changed the character into a crazy General.
On the other hand, Muslim Terrorists were often the go-to villians for movies in the 1990's and early Oughts.
This shows how stupid you are Joe
Hollywood goes out of its way to offend Christians
Major League
Bull Durham
Last Temptation of Christ
Robin Hood (Costner version)
and on and on and on.....nobody kills anybody.
Islam is an inferior religion, and your bigotry makes you an inferior man.
As much as it's unforgiveable what those medieval thugs did, why would someone think they have enough moral high ground to needlessly inflame a situation - and then confirm that they thought it was great idea?
What is the point?
As much as it's unforgiveable what those medieval thugs did, why would someone think they have enough moral high ground to needlessly inflame a situation - and then confirm that they thought it was great idea?
What is the point?
The movie/video was not the seminal incitement; celebrating 9-11 was, and it should've been warning enough of what to expect everywhere in the Middle East. There were no Marines at all at the Benghazi Consulate where the Embassador was murdered. And with the attack going on the embassador was hurried away to a pre-arranged safe place by Libyans, after which the attackers were informed of his presence there to find him and kill him.
Hey, if someone made a film portraying Jesus as a pedophile, I don't think you Christians would be all that keen on it.
It's not 'siding' with someone to point out that provoking people who are already inclined to be angry is a really stupid idea.
It's like taunting the crazy homelss person while he's yelling at the lamp post. Just not a good idea.
You talk about "Freedom", I think more in terms of responsibility. JOnes and Balice know that people were killed when they've pulled this crap in the past.
Guess what, when someone made a film called The Last Temptation of Christ depicting Jesus unfavorably Christians were upset about it, but they did not attack any embassies, riot in the streets, or kill anyone. That makes your entire post make about as much sense as it would if I let my cat walk on the keyboard and posted it.
You aren't talking responsibility, you are talking about taking away people's rights because you think you are smarter than they are. You already lost the argument with the lamppost, but you are still arguing away. Keep arguing a point that is already settled, it makes you look even dumber than you are.
Yes they did cocksucker, they attacked the Saint Michel theater in Paris
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Exactly. In the last fifty or sixty years, how many films and other artistic renditions have been made denigrating Jesus? Or religion/Christianity in general? .
Good question. Why don't you make a list?
Well. Last Temptation of Christ.
And.
Umm....
Errrr....
Gee, not seeing a whole lot.
If anything, Hollywood seems to go out of its way NOT to offend Christians.
For instance, in the original Graphic Novel ("God Loves, Man kills") X-Men 2 was based on, the main villlian, Stryker, was portrayed as a Televangelist. When this finally got made into a movie that wasn't HALF as good as the comic, they changed the character into a crazy General.
On the other hand, Muslim Terrorists were often the go-to villians for movies in the 1990's and early Oughts.
Yes they did cocksucker, they attacked the Saint Michel theater in Paris
Yes, that was done by a tiny elitist radical fundamentalist group attached to no Christian organization, it was universally condemned by Christian groups all over the world, and the proponents were arrested and appropriately dealt with by the authorities. It is highly unlikely they could have generated a riot by anybody, let alone Christians who practice the Christian faith.
Please don't do me with Christian faith stuff....Christians threw away their religion long ago......Christians don't care apwhat their religion says almost every Christian I know has premarital sex.....that's against their religion
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Exactly. In the last fifty or sixty years, how many films and other artistic renditions have been made denigrating Jesus? Or religion/Christianity in general? .
Good question. Why don't you make a list?
Well. Last Temptation of Christ.
And.
Umm....
Errrr....
Gee, not seeing a whole lot.
If anything, Hollywood seems to go out of its way NOT to offend Christians.
For instance, in the original Graphic Novel ("God Loves, Man kills") X-Men 2 was based on, the main villlian, Stryker, was portrayed as a Televangelist. When this finally got made into a movie that wasn't HALF as good as the comic, they changed the character into a crazy General.
On the other hand, Muslim Terrorists were often the go-to villians for movies in the 1990's and early Oughts.
You should look harder.
Jesus Christ, Superstar, and The Life of Brian are two that pop into my head without thinking about it at all. Want to challenge me to find more?
As much as it's unforgiveable what those medieval thugs did, why would someone think they have enough moral high ground to needlessly inflame a situation - and then confirm that they thought it was great idea?
What is the point?
The movie/video was not the seminal incitement; celebrating 9-11 was, and it should've been warning enough of what to expect everywhere in the Middle East. There were no Marines at all at the Benghazi Consulate where the Embassador was murdered. And with the attack going on the embassador was hurried away to a pre-arranged safe place by Libyans, after which the attackers were informed of his presence there to find him and kill him.
Spot on, American Horse. This was premeditated.
The movie/video was not the seminal incitement; celebrating 9-11 was, and it should've been warning enough of what to expect everywhere in the Middle East. There were no Marines at all at the Benghazi Consulate where the Embassador was murdered. And with the attack going on the embassador was hurried away to a pre-arranged safe place by Libyans, after which the attackers were informed of his presence there to find him and kill him.
Spot on, American Horse. This was premeditated.
speculation at best, with no real proof to back it up.
Simple phone call settles your whole opinion really fast, But then again typical. Seeing how this speculation is full of holes.
The apology was issued as rioters amassed outside the compound. It was an attempt to blame the protest on Terry Jones."After a massive crowd of angry Egyptians began amassing outside the U.S. Embassy in Cairo, furious over an anti-Muslim film produced in the U.S., the embassy there released a statement saying it did not support any anti-religious efforts."
Did the U.S. apologize for the Cairo embassy attack? - Political Hotsheet - CBS News
How did they know a youtube clip was the cause of the riots? Some sources said it was a protest to coincide with 9/11 and the announcement of the killing of another al Qaeda #2 in Yemen last June.
The Timeline: Who Said What: Timeline of Statements on Libya, Egypt Attacks - Washington Wire - WSJ
I for one felt real anger when the initial response from the White House last night was to apologize for insulting Muslims before expressing grief, anger, and concern for the murdered Americans. The formal response from President Obama was more measured and did condemn the acts for which he said there was 'no excuse', but again there was an implied apoliogy for any insult to Muslims.
Mixed signals indeed.
The 'apology' was before the attacks
No it wasn't. It was last night as it was happening and reinforced at the press conference--at which Obama took no questions--this morning.