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No, just have evidence your biggest enemy actually did what you think, before accusations are made. Seems fair for a power house to do right?
The fact that you haven't personally seen the evidence doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
But fact that we haven't seen the evidence is a pretty good reason not to raise tensions abruptly while Obama is on his way out the door
Did that stop us from "raising tensions" with NK or Iran?
BTW - every President prior to Iran has used the end of his term to complete a lot of things. Obama is no different.
Raise tensions???
Obama kowtowed not the other way around
Kowtowed to who? Iran? I disagree. He got the best agreement possible without a war.
Yes, the most recent example with the Leftists still worshipping Cuba was when that POS Fidel Castro died and across the planet the Leftists were saying what a GIANT of the world stage he was and was a GREAT man he was and the Fidel Lovefest went on for days and days.
From what I have learned the reason Obama has done what he did with Cuba ( became friends) is so when it comes time to bring troops here and disperse them on US soil they can quickly be dispersed throughout the Country if need be, and no it won't be to help and assist Americans it will be to attack us.
That's a bit crazy. The reason he did is it is beyond time to normalize relations. Castro was dying, the embargos and restrictions accomplished nothing, and it's possible that free trade and travel would do more to induce change than embargos.
Fidel Castro should have been dragged from his sick bed and flown to The Hague and put on trial for the crimes that were committed on his orders, they drag others there, Fidel should have got the same treatment.
Raul Castro should be in The Hague now, instead Obama the Marxist makes normal relations with Cuba which is still Communist and hasn't had a democratic election since when?
I don't know about Raul, not sure what he's done. But how are you going to get any of them to the Hague?
How about Assad? How about Putin? You know what - they're never going to face trial either for what they've done with Syria. ISIS will, should they be caught.
"I don't know about Raul, not sure what he's done. But how are you going to get any of them to the Hague?"
Raul was there with Fidel from the beginning, he also participated in the revolution. How are you going to get him to The Hague, easy issue what Interpol refer to as a Red Notice, an International Arrest Warrant and then go and remove him and drag him onto the plane and next stop The Hague.
It's easy, look how they get all those batshit African's such as Charles Taylor etc.
. Tensions with China ?? You mean for talking with China about trade negotiations that would be more fair ? Those tensions ? ROTFLMBO.But you're fine with starting a war with Iran. You guys are too damn funny
No, war with Iran also would be a bad idea.
But apparently pissing off Russia is a good idea. Go figure
It's hardly war, not even close.
What do you think we should do?
Ignore it?
We're in a war quite a few wars already.
Yes, we are. About time someone noticed.
There is no indication that this is going to lead to any war. Tell me - did you jump all over Trump for "escalating tensions" with China before he was even in office?
US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do
If it was leaked by insiders, then I think our intelligence agencies would have said so.
Of course we do the same stuff. And when we're caught - we get smacked. They did not interfere with the election directly - there was no rigging. But the most certainly did indirectly and that shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet. Elections are important.
We gave money to groups opposing Netanyahu. Netanyahu retaliated by creating stricter laws on outside organizers. Should Israel NOT have done that? What we did I might add, was not in anyway illegal. Hacking is.
Seth can't speak, anymore, but from all evidence it seems he was at least partially involved.
UK and Assange have both said they know it was an insider not Russia.
Obama wants to start as war over evidence they won't even show congress and that FBI and CIA disagree on.
But apparently pissing off Russia is a good idea. Go figure
It's hardly war, not even close.
What do you think we should do?
Ignore it?
We're in a war quite a few wars already.
Yes, we are. About time someone noticed.
There is no indication that this is going to lead to any war. Tell me - did you jump all over Trump for "escalating tensions" with China before he was even in office?
China is more a danger than Russia is, I'm not for escalating tensions, I'm for de-escalating tensions.
We have a fundamental problem with ISIS and Islamic terrorism from those who support ISIS, in my opinion this is what we should be dealing with in a full-spectrum way. This is the actual war and ALL nations in the Western world need to come together to deal with this and we also need to have Russia helping, Russia is our friend and not our foe.
China can be dealt with in other ways, ways that don't have to involve escalating tensions.
I don't think Russia is either friend or foe. Russia is in it for its own agenda and we should not forget that. It's agenda in Syria so far has not been ISIS. It's been bombing schools, hospitals,civilian centers. It's been bombing rebel kurdish groups that have been driving ISIS out. Russia's agenda is to support Assad, to use Syria as a testing ground for new weapons, and essentially employ a scorched earth policy towards civilians.
US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do
If it was leaked by insiders, then I think our intelligence agencies would have said so.
Of course we do the same stuff. And when we're caught - we get smacked. They did not interfere with the election directly - there was no rigging. But the most certainly did indirectly and that shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet. Elections are important.
We gave money to groups opposing Netanyahu. Netanyahu retaliated by creating stricter laws on outside organizers. Should Israel NOT have done that? What we did I might add, was not in anyway illegal. Hacking is.
Seth can't speak, anymore, but from all evidence it seems he was at least partially involved.
UK and Assange have both said they know it was an insider not Russia.
Obama wants to start as war over evidence they won't even show congress and that FBI and CIA disagree on.
If you anti-Americans love Putin/Russia so much. Move your un- patriotic ass over to Russia and don't let the door hit your fat ass on your way outa here!
So if we don't want war with Russia, that means we "love" Russia?
What did we ever do about Chinese hacking in 2015? Nothing, nada, no sanctions! This alone shows alleged Russian hacking has been totally politicized by a butt-hurt Democrat Administration with an aim to make the transition to Trump as difficult as possible!
Chinese breach data of 4 million federal workers
US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do
If it was leaked by insiders, then I think our intelligence agencies would have said so.
Of course we do the same stuff. And when we're caught - we get smacked. They did not interfere with the election directly - there was no rigging. But the most certainly did indirectly and that shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet. Elections are important.
We gave money to groups opposing Netanyahu. Netanyahu retaliated by creating stricter laws on outside organizers. Should Israel NOT have done that? What we did I might add, was not in anyway illegal. Hacking is.
Seth can't speak, anymore, but from all evidence it seems he was at least partially involved.
UK and Assange have both said they know it was an insider not Russia.
Obama wants to start as war over evidence they won't even show congress and that FBI and CIA disagree on.
I don't believe Assange one bit. Also, the FBI and the CIA agree totally that the Russians were behind the hacks. Where they disagree on (and I think that might have changed to agreement) - is on what Russia's motivation was.
Even their leader in the house said a response was needed although he said it should have come soonerYou just want to stand their while they shit all over you??? Sorry pub I wasn't built that wayI'm sorry but how does escalating tensions with Russia benefit our nation?
I don't get offended over nothing. But then I've never been taught that we should strive to be victims.
Isn't rolling over for Putin just that?
You guys haven't established how not kicking put s equates yo rolling over for Putin.
Hell you haven't bothered establish in that Putin did anything yet.
And you sure haven't bothered explaining how inflaming tensions while Obama is walking out the door is good.
Oh, I think I did but - you've already decided all 17 intelligence agencies are lying, as is Congress as is the President.
all the lakes forests rivers and meadows More PEOPLE voted DemTrump Took 60% of the country please learn the processYou know? Do you really? How?Sorry, guy. We all watched the shit go down. We know who hacked the emails. Nobody is gearing up for a fucking invasion of Russia here.
Your comparison is bullshit.
I'm informed by the FUCKING UNANIMOUS OPINION of our intelligence community and A FUCKING BIPARTISAN response in congress which supports that fucking opinion.
You have to keep in mind they way they think:
The President is lying.
The Congress is lying.
The Democrats are lying.
The Republicans are lying.
All 17 Intelligence Agencies are lying.
Putin is telling the truth.
Yes. All because they want to embarrass Trump who won the election fair and square while getting almost 3 million fewer votes. It makes a lot of sense.
US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do
If it was leaked by insiders, then I think our intelligence agencies would have said so.
Of course we do the same stuff. And when we're caught - we get smacked. They did not interfere with the election directly - there was no rigging. But the most certainly did indirectly and that shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet. Elections are important.
We gave money to groups opposing Netanyahu. Netanyahu retaliated by creating stricter laws on outside organizers. Should Israel NOT have done that? What we did I might add, was not in anyway illegal. Hacking is.
Seth can't speak, anymore, but from all evidence it seems he was at least partially involved.
UK and Assange have both said they know it was an insider not Russia.
Obama wants to start as war over evidence they won't even show congress and that FBI and CIA disagree on.
But apparently pissing off Russia is a good idea. Go figure
It's hardly war, not even close.
What do you think we should do?
Ignore it?
We're in a war quite a few wars already.
Yes, we are. About time someone noticed.
There is no indication that this is going to lead to any war. Tell me - did you jump all over Trump for "escalating tensions" with China before he was even in office?
China is more a danger than Russia is, I'm not for escalating tensions, I'm for de-escalating tensions.
We have a fundamental problem with ISIS and Islamic terrorism from those who support ISIS, in my opinion this is what we should be dealing with in a full-spectrum way. This is the actual war and ALL nations in the Western world need to come together to deal with this and we also need to have Russia helping, Russia is our friend and not our foe.
China can be dealt with in other ways, ways that don't have to involve escalating tensions.
I don't think Russia is either friend or foe. Russia is in it for its own agenda and we should not forget that. It's agenda in Syria so far has not been ISIS. It's been bombing schools, hospitals,civilian centers. It's been bombing rebel kurdish groups that have been driving ISIS out. Russia's agenda is to support Assad, to use Syria as a testing ground for new weapons, and essentially employ a scorched earth policy towards civilians.
What has Iran actually done to deserve being bombed?
For instance, Iran has troops on the ground in Syria and those Iranian troops were crucial in helping the Syrian Army liberate Aleppo from both ISIS and Al-Nusra, you know Al-Nusra who Obama and the Propaganda MSM refer to as the "Moderate Rebels", Al-Nusra are Al-Qaeda we know this.
Without the help from Iran, Aleppo wouldn't be liberated from Islamic terrorist monsters.
There is actually no evidence whatsoever that implies Seth Rich was "involved" in any way with the DNC email leak.
US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do
If it was leaked by insiders, then I think our intelligence agencies would have said so.
Of course we do the same stuff. And when we're caught - we get smacked. They did not interfere with the election directly - there was no rigging. But the most certainly did indirectly and that shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet. Elections are important.
We gave money to groups opposing Netanyahu. Netanyahu retaliated by creating stricter laws on outside organizers. Should Israel NOT have done that? What we did I might add, was not in anyway illegal. Hacking is.
Seth can't speak, anymore, but from all evidence it seems he was at least partially involved.
UK and Assange have both said they know it was an insider not Russia.
Obama wants to start as war over evidence they won't even show congress and that FBI and CIA disagree on.
There is actually no evidence whatsoever that implies Seth Rich was "involved" in any way with the DNC email leak.
all the lakes forests rivers and meadows More PEOPLE voted DemTrump Took 60% of the country please learn the processYou know? Do you really? How?
I'm informed by the FUCKING UNANIMOUS OPINION of our intelligence community and A FUCKING BIPARTISAN response in congress which supports that fucking opinion.
You have to keep in mind they way they think:
The President is lying.
The Congress is lying.
The Democrats are lying.
The Republicans are lying.
All 17 Intelligence Agencies are lying.
Putin is telling the truth.
Yes. All because they want to embarrass Trump who won the election fair and square while getting almost 3 million fewer votes. It makes a lot of sense.
US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do
If it was leaked by insiders, then I think our intelligence agencies would have said so.
Of course we do the same stuff. And when we're caught - we get smacked. They did not interfere with the election directly - there was no rigging. But the most certainly did indirectly and that shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet. Elections are important.
We gave money to groups opposing Netanyahu. Netanyahu retaliated by creating stricter laws on outside organizers. Should Israel NOT have done that? What we did I might add, was not in anyway illegal. Hacking is.
Seth can't speak, anymore, but from all evidence it seems he was at least partially involved.
UK and Assange have both said they know it was an insider not Russia.
Obama wants to start as war over evidence they won't even show congress and that FBI and CIA disagree on.
I don't believe Assange one bit. Also, the FBI and the CIA agree totally that the Russians were behind the hacks. Where they disagree on (and I think that might have changed to agreement) - is on what Russia's motivation was.
Gap on Russia hacking conclusions between intelligence, FBI - CNNPolitics.com
Q&A: Why the CIA, FBI differ on Russian election hacking
US spies and meddles on everyone else. Might not make public the info but they use it to manipulate.
US has no problem interfering with other elections.
"IF" russia did gain access to DNC or Clinton emails, all they did was make the public so the people voting could have a clear idea who she was.
They did not interfere with the voting.
Most of the info was leaked by insiders, but Obama is ready to start a way over accusation
Does Russia spy?............. as much as we do
If it was leaked by insiders, then I think our intelligence agencies would have said so.
Of course we do the same stuff. And when we're caught - we get smacked. They did not interfere with the election directly - there was no rigging. But the most certainly did indirectly and that shouldn't be allowed to be swept under the carpet. Elections are important.
We gave money to groups opposing Netanyahu. Netanyahu retaliated by creating stricter laws on outside organizers. Should Israel NOT have done that? What we did I might add, was not in anyway illegal. Hacking is.
Seth can't speak, anymore, but from all evidence it seems he was at least partially involved.
UK and Assange have both said they know it was an insider not Russia.
Obama wants to start as war over evidence they won't even show congress and that FBI and CIA disagree on.
There is actually no evidence whatsoever that implies Seth Rich was "involved" in any way with the DNC email leak.
Seth Rich's Death: Why a GOP Lobbyist Will Pay $100,000 To Learn ...
www.newsweek.com/gop-lobbyist-reward-seth-rich-dnc-499653
Sep 16, 2016 - Seth Rich's Death: Why a GOP Lobbyist Will Pay $100,000 To Learn Who ... DNC officials were behind it and that Rich played a role inleaking ...
Wikileaks-Linked DNC Staffer Seth Rich: What Happened Before His ...
www.dailywire.com/news/.../wikileaks-linked-dnc-analyst-seth-rich-what-aaron-bandl...
Aug 17, 2016 - Seth Rich, the Democratic National Committee staffer who was murdered ... that Rich was the source of the DNC email leaks, implying that his ...
WOW! BREAKING=> Julian Assange Suggests Seth Rich - Who Was ...
www.thegatewaypundit.com/.../wow-breaking-video-julian-assange-suggests-seth-rich...
Aug 9, 2016 - Was Seth Rich, the source of #DNCleaks, murdered? t.co / Twitter .... supporter, and DNC staffer became so upset what they did to Bernie leaked ...
WikiLeaks: Seth Rich Leaked Clinton Emails, Not Russia - Your News ...
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Dec 15, 2016 - WikiLeaks have suggested that murdered DNC staffer Seth Rich leaked the Clinton and Podesta emails - not Russia.
Assange: "Seth Rich Went Missing For 2 Hours Before Death, We ...
https://conservativedailypost.com/assange-seth-rich-went-missing-for-2-hours-before-...
Aug 21, 2016 - Seth Rich worked for the DNC as a voter database employee. ... Julian Assange spoke about Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and the DNC leak.
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