US said preparing strike to ‘utterly destroy’ N. Korean nuclear program

[Care4all]

preemptive war is against our constitution, it's unconstitutional

any attack on north korea needs Congressional approval.

How do you get congressional approval for something you deem unconstitutional?

If congress chose to declare war, with 2/3's YEA votes in the House and 2/3's YEA votes in the Senate, then it would be a DECLARED WAR, which is constitutional.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Why is it acceptable for the US to threaten countries, but it's not okay for those countries to threaten the US?

Appease, Appease, Appease.

Appease who? Seems you want to appease the war mongers.

And you and your people want to appease those who hate America. We tried that.

They hate America because America gives them a million reason to hate. I prefer to have an America that people don't hate.

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

 

[frigidweirdo]

preemptive war is against our constitution, it's unconstitutional

any attack on north korea needs Congressional approval.

How do you get congressional approval for something you deem unconstitutional?

Are you serious? Do you really know that little about hoe govt works?

 

[frigidweirdo]

On Sunday, the UK’s Sunday Times reported that top military advisers to US President Donald Trump have told their British counterparts that Washington was considering a preemptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear program, and believed it had the firepower to neutralize it.

My guess is that this just isn't the case.

NK has a shitload of non-nuclear weapons pointed right at Seoul, and it's difficult to believe they wouldn't use them if attacked. We can't get all of them, too.

I suppose it's possible they retain just enough sanity not to do that, but that's one helluva risk we'd be taking.
.

And can the US afford to see South Korea hit like that? No, not really. It'd be a disaster for them in the region.

NK armed with nuclear missiles is a disaster without parallel in the region.

The US armed with nuclear missiles is a disaster too.

 

[charwin95]

On Sunday, the UK’s Sunday Times reported that top military advisers to US President Donald Trump have told their British counterparts that Washington was considering a preemptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear program, and believed it had the firepower to neutralize it.

My guess is that this just isn't the case.

NK has a shitload of non-nuclear weapons pointed right at Seoul, and it's difficult to believe they wouldn't use them if attacked. We can't get all of them, too.

I suppose it's possible they retain just enough sanity not to do that, but that's one helluva risk we'd be taking.
.

Both sides have shitloads of non nuclear weapons pointed at each other, but only the US has the capability of destroying anything in NK which it can see, and with the MOAB, it can also destroy all those cannons hidden in caves near the border which it cannot see. Imo, the leadership of NK is deeply paranoid but quite rational otherwise. They understand they cannot survive an all out war with the US so they threaten horrendous consequences in order to prevent the US from attacking, but when President Trump sent a carrier group to the region in response to an expected nuclear test, NK called off the test. There is also reason to believe there is dissension within the leadership which might make decisions to go to war with the US difficult.

You figured all these out by yourself General?
They have a great number of small artilleries that can hit 5 to 20 miles inside SK ---------
One strike against NK and will re ignite a real war between N & S. Millions will die on both sides-------- because of this chest pumping cheetoh------ Do not expect China will sit and watch. Followed by South Korean refugees to US.
You bomb NK ----------- do not expect South Korean will go to work to Hyundai or Samsung the next day.

As an example US and coalition plus Putin has been bombing ISIS in Syria for over 3 years combined. --------------- ISIS still standing in Syria. Do you think you can cripple NK in a day without raining bombs hitting SK?
If that happened------------ just imagine who will they blame and hate? THINK.

 

[toomuchtime_]

On Sunday, the UK’s Sunday Times reported that top military advisers to US President Donald Trump have told their British counterparts that Washington was considering a preemptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear program, and believed it had the firepower to neutralize it.

My guess is that this just isn't the case.

NK has a shitload of non-nuclear weapons pointed right at Seoul, and it's difficult to believe they wouldn't use them if attacked. We can't get all of them, too.

I suppose it's possible they retain just enough sanity not to do that, but that's one helluva risk we'd be taking.
.

Both sides have shitloads of non nuclear weapons pointed at each other, but only the US has the capability of destroying anything in NK which it can see, and with the MOAB, it can also destroy all those cannons hidden in caves near the border which it cannot see. Imo, the leadership of NK is deeply paranoid but quite rational otherwise. They understand they cannot survive an all out war with the US so they threaten horrendous consequences in order to prevent the US from attacking, but when President Trump sent a carrier group to the region in response to an expected nuclear test, NK called off the test. There is also reason to believe there is dissension within the leadership which might make decisions to go to war with the US difficult.

You figured all these out by yourself General?
They have a great number of small artilleries that can hit 5 to 20 miles inside SK ---------
One strike against NK and will re ignite a real war between N & S. Millions will die on both sides-------- because of this chest pumping cheetoh------ Do not expect China will sit and watch. Followed by South Korean refugees to US.
You bomb NK ----------- do not expect South Korean will go to work to Hyundai or Samsung the next day.

As an example US and coalition plus Putin has been bombing ISIS in Syria for over 3 years combined. --------------- ISIS still standing in Syria. Do you think you can cripple NK in a day without raining bombs hitting SK?
If that happened------------ just imagine who will they blame and hate? THINK.

What NK would be capable of doing would depend on the severity of the US first strike. If a US first strike targeted NK's military infrastructure as well as its nuclear facilities, the NK's ability to retaliate would be seriously degraded, and if the US first strike targeted only NK's nuclear facilities, then NK would have to decide if it would cut its losses or see its entire military infrastructure destroyed.

Trade with the US is vital to China's growing economy but NK is merely a buffer zone between China and the West, so as long as it is clear that the US does not intend to occupy Nk, Chna would have no reason to join the fight. Add to this the fact that a nuclear armed NK starving across the border from China's burgeoning economy would be a threat to China as well as to the US and its allies, and one might wonder if China's interests might be the same as the US's.

 

[frigidweirdo]

On Sunday, the UK’s Sunday Times reported that top military advisers to US President Donald Trump have told their British counterparts that Washington was considering a preemptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear program, and believed it had the firepower to neutralize it.

My guess is that this just isn't the case.

NK has a shitload of non-nuclear weapons pointed right at Seoul, and it's difficult to believe they wouldn't use them if attacked. We can't get all of them, too.

I suppose it's possible they retain just enough sanity not to do that, but that's one helluva risk we'd be taking.
.

Both sides have shitloads of non nuclear weapons pointed at each other, but only the US has the capability of destroying anything in NK which it can see, and with the MOAB, it can also destroy all those cannons hidden in caves near the border which it cannot see. Imo, the leadership of NK is deeply paranoid but quite rational otherwise. They understand they cannot survive an all out war with the US so they threaten horrendous consequences in order to prevent the US from attacking, but when President Trump sent a carrier group to the region in response to an expected nuclear test, NK called off the test. There is also reason to believe there is dissension within the leadership which might make decisions to go to war with the US difficult.

You figured all these out by yourself General?
They have a great number of small artilleries that can hit 5 to 20 miles inside SK ---------
One strike against NK and will re ignite a real war between N & S. Millions will die on both sides-------- because of this chest pumping cheetoh------ Do not expect China will sit and watch. Followed by South Korean refugees to US.
You bomb NK ----------- do not expect South Korean will go to work to Hyundai or Samsung the next day.

As an example US and coalition plus Putin has been bombing ISIS in Syria for over 3 years combined. --------------- ISIS still standing in Syria. Do you think you can cripple NK in a day without raining bombs hitting SK?
If that happened------------ just imagine who will they blame and hate? THINK.

What NK would be capable of doing would depend on the severity of the US first strike. If a US first strike targeted NK's military infrastructure as well as its nuclear facilities, the NK's ability to retaliate would be seriously degraded, and if the US first strike targeted only NK's nuclear facilities, then NK would have to decide if it would cut its losses or see its entire military infrastructure destroyed.

Trade with the US is vital to China's growing economy but NK is merely a buffer zone between China and the West, so as long as it is clear that the US does not intend to occupy Nk, Chna would have no reason to join the fight. Add to this the fact that a nuclear armed NK starving across the border from China's burgeoning economy would be a threat to China as well as to the US and its allies, and one might wonder if China's interests might be the same as the US's.

Trade is vital for China. However China would also have to weigh up the political options too, and it would be doing that. They don't want the US on their border, it's a simple fact.

 

[Unkotare]

Appease, Appease, Appease.

Appease who? Seems you want to appease the war mongers.

And you and your people want to appease those who hate America. We tried that.

They hate America because America gives them a million reason to hate. I prefer to have an America that people don't hate.

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

^^^^^^^^^

Leftists trying to justify their hatred for America - AGAIN.

 

[LeftofLeft]

Appease, Appease, Appease.

Appease who? Seems you want to appease the war mongers.

And you and your people want to appease those who hate America. We tried that.

They hate America because America gives them a million reason to hate. I prefer to have an America that people don't hate.

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

So now it's bullying. Anything else you want to blame US for?

 

[LeftofLeft]

Appease who? Seems you want to appease the war mongers.

And you and your people want to appease those who hate America. We tried that.

They hate America because America gives them a million reason to hate. I prefer to have an America that people don't hate.

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

^^^^^^^^^

Leftists trying to justify their hatred for America - AGAIN.

Their hatred continues to keep Democrats out of office. Republicans have captured more seats in executive and legislative offices throughout the Land simply by the Left showing its hate and contempt through words and violence.

 

[Mac1958]

Leftists trying to justify their hatred for America - AGAIN.

Their hatred continues to keep Democrats out of office. Republicans have captured more seats in executive and legislative offices throughout the Land simply by the Left showing its hate and contempt through words and violence.

Just remember guys, there are plenty of decent, traditional liberals out there who are not like that.

They're being drowned out, but they are out there.
.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Appease who? Seems you want to appease the war mongers.

And you and your people want to appease those who hate America. We tried that.

They hate America because America gives them a million reason to hate. I prefer to have an America that people don't hate.

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

So now it's bullying. Anything else you want to blame US for?

How about invading, bombing, killing, coup d'etats, torture you know all the things the US has done in the last 20 years.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And you and your people want to appease those who hate America. We tried that.

They hate America because America gives them a million reason to hate. I prefer to have an America that people don't hate.

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

^^^^^^^^^

Leftists trying to justify their hatred for America - AGAIN.

Their hatred continues to keep Democrats out of office. Republicans have captured more seats in executive and legislative offices throughout the Land simply by the Left showing its hate and contempt through words and violence.

That's complete nonsense. But then I'm so used to such simplistic justifications, it just seems part of the course.

 

[Unkotare]

They hate America because America gives them a million reason to hate. I prefer to have an America that people don't hate.

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

^^^^^^^^^

Leftists trying to justify their hatred for America - AGAIN.

Their hatred continues to keep Democrats out of office. Republicans have captured more seats in executive and legislative offices throughout the Land simply by the Left showing its hate and contempt through words and violence.

That's complete nonsense. But then I'm so used to such simplistic justifications, it just seems part of the course.

"Par for the course," genius.

 

[esthermoon]

On Sunday, the UK’s Sunday Times reported that top military advisers to US President Donald Trump have told their British counterparts that Washington was considering a preemptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear program, and believed it had the firepower to neutralize it.

Citing “senior sources” in the British government, the paper said the US believed it was able to “utterly destroy” the key installations required to remove the threat the program posed to North Korea’s neighbors and the US.

According to the paper, US Defense Secretary James Mattis discussed a US strike on North Korea with his British counterpart Michael Fallon some two weeks ago, and similar conversations have been held between British officials and Trump’s national security adviser H.R. McMaster.

“They’ll do anything it takes. Nothing is off the table. They think they’ve got the capabilities to target things and utterly destroy them. They are confident they know where everything is and can target it efficiently,” one British official is quoted as saying.

Another source told the Times that US officials “are getting to the point where they think they may have to take out the facilities preemptively…. They are much closer to taking military action than they were a year ago.”

US said preparing strike to ‘utterly destroy’ N. Korean nuclear program

It will be a hard sell to Japan and South Korea, maybe that's why Pence is visiting them now.

In my opinion is a bad idea doing a strike against North Korea.

China will be very upset and it's the best North Korea' ally (and a nuclear power)

 

[PoliticalChic]

We're a WARRIOR nation and always have been, despite the fairies and weirdos teaching our kids not to be in the public schools. For every kid they turn into a flower-sniffing pansy, three will end up throwing fists outside a bar some night. It's in our DNA.

A great reason for homeschooling, too.

Growing your own morons is now fashionably chic?

"Growing your own morons is now fashionably chic?"

Homeschool students out perform government school grads every time.
Can I assume you're a government school grad?


Here's some real education for you:

Academic Performance

• The home-educated typically score 15 to 30 percentile points above public-school students on standardized academic achievement tests. (Percentiles range from 1 to 99 on these tests.)

• Homeschool students score above average on achievement tests regardless of their parents’ level of formal education or their family’s household income.

• Whether homeschool parents were ever certified teachers is not related to their children’s academic achievement.

• Degree of state control and regulation of homeschooling is not related to academic achievement.

• Home-educated students typically score above average on the SAT and ACT tests that colleges consider for admissions.

• Homeschool students are increasingly being actively recruited by colleges.

RESEARCH FACTS ON HOMESCHOOLING
http://www.nheri.org/Research-Facts-on-Homeschooling.html




How'd you like that custard pie I just smashed in your kisser?

 

[LeftofLeft]

They hate America because America gives them a million reason to hate. I prefer to have an America that people don't hate.

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

^^^^^^^^^

Leftists trying to justify their hatred for America - AGAIN.

Their hatred continues to keep Democrats out of office. Republicans have captured more seats in executive and legislative offices throughout the Land simply by the Left showing its hate and contempt through words and violence.

That's complete nonsense. But then I'm so used to such simplistic justifications, it just seems part of the course.

Simplistic Justifications? Election results? Show us where Republicans where staging events similar to Occupy. Show us where Republicans stop/impede traffic. Show us where Republicans are assaulting Democrat rally attendees. Show us Republicans smashing storefront windows and torching cars because their candidate did not win.

 

[toomuchtime_]

On Sunday, the UK’s Sunday Times reported that top military advisers to US President Donald Trump have told their British counterparts that Washington was considering a preemptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear program, and believed it had the firepower to neutralize it.

My guess is that this just isn't the case.

NK has a shitload of non-nuclear weapons pointed right at Seoul, and it's difficult to believe they wouldn't use them if attacked. We can't get all of them, too.

I suppose it's possible they retain just enough sanity not to do that, but that's one helluva risk we'd be taking.
.

Both sides have shitloads of non nuclear weapons pointed at each other, but only the US has the capability of destroying anything in NK which it can see, and with the MOAB, it can also destroy all those cannons hidden in caves near the border which it cannot see. Imo, the leadership of NK is deeply paranoid but quite rational otherwise. They understand they cannot survive an all out war with the US so they threaten horrendous consequences in order to prevent the US from attacking, but when President Trump sent a carrier group to the region in response to an expected nuclear test, NK called off the test. There is also reason to believe there is dissension within the leadership which might make decisions to go to war with the US difficult.

You figured all these out by yourself General?
They have a great number of small artilleries that can hit 5 to 20 miles inside SK ---------
One strike against NK and will re ignite a real war between N & S. Millions will die on both sides-------- because of this chest pumping cheetoh------ Do not expect China will sit and watch. Followed by South Korean refugees to US.
You bomb NK ----------- do not expect South Korean will go to work to Hyundai or Samsung the next day.

As an example US and coalition plus Putin has been bombing ISIS in Syria for over 3 years combined. --------------- ISIS still standing in Syria. Do you think you can cripple NK in a day without raining bombs hitting SK?
If that happened------------ just imagine who will they blame and hate? THINK.

What NK would be capable of doing would depend on the severity of the US first strike. If a US first strike targeted NK's military infrastructure as well as its nuclear facilities, the NK's ability to retaliate would be seriously degraded, and if the US first strike targeted only NK's nuclear facilities, then NK would have to decide if it would cut its losses or see its entire military infrastructure destroyed.

Trade with the US is vital to China's growing economy but NK is merely a buffer zone between China and the West, so as long as it is clear that the US does not intend to occupy Nk, Chna would have no reason to join the fight. Add to this the fact that a nuclear armed NK starving across the border from China's burgeoning economy would be a threat to China as well as to the US and its allies, and one might wonder if China's interests might be the same as the US's.

Trade is vital for China. However China would also have to weigh up the political options too, and it would be doing that. They don't want the US on their border, it's a simple fact.

Having the West on its border might have been an important concern back in the 1950's, but it's not clear why it would be today. Given the US's awesome ability to project massive military power anywhere in the world, every country effectively has the US on its border. China has vital economic interess in maintaining good relations with the West, but it is not clear China has any important strategic interests in protecting NK.

 

[toomuchtime_]

On Sunday, the UK’s Sunday Times reported that top military advisers to US President Donald Trump have told their British counterparts that Washington was considering a preemptive strike against North Korea’s nuclear program, and believed it had the firepower to neutralize it.

Citing “senior sources” in the British government, the paper said the US believed it was able to “utterly destroy” the key installations required to remove the threat the program posed to North Korea’s neighbors and the US.

According to the paper, US Defense Secretary James Mattis discussed a US strike on North Korea with his British counterpart Michael Fallon some two weeks ago, and similar conversations have been held between British officials and Trump’s national security adviser H.R. McMaster.

“They’ll do anything it takes. Nothing is off the table. They think they’ve got the capabilities to target things and utterly destroy them. They are confident they know where everything is and can target it efficiently,” one British official is quoted as saying.

Another source told the Times that US officials “are getting to the point where they think they may have to take out the facilities preemptively…. They are much closer to taking military action than they were a year ago.”

US said preparing strike to ‘utterly destroy’ N. Korean nuclear program

It will be a hard sell to Japan and South Korea, maybe that's why Pence is visiting them now.

In my opinion is a bad idea doing a strike against North Korea.

China will be very upset and it's the best North Korea' ally (and a nuclear power)

It is a much worse idea to allow NK to become a nuclear power and sell its nuclear weapons technology to other nations as it has offered to do. In the 1950's China and NK were both Stalinist nations engaged in the Cold War, but today, China's vital interests are dependent on good trade relations with the West and NK is of no important value to China.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Yea....we tried the blame America way as well. From Reagan to Obama and all points in between, America will never be short of its haters. It's time to stop appeasing those that hate US abd realize that our existence and exceptional is is enough to produce haters of US.

Yep, the bully can't understand why people hate the bully.

People don't hate exception, they hate bullying. But the bully will never admit it's the bully.

^^^^^^^^^

Leftists trying to justify their hatred for America - AGAIN.

Their hatred continues to keep Democrats out of office. Republicans have captured more seats in executive and legislative offices throughout the Land simply by the Left showing its hate and contempt through words and violence.

That's complete nonsense. But then I'm so used to such simplistic justifications, it just seems part of the course.

Simplistic Justifications? Election results? Show us where Republicans where staging events similar to Occupy. Show us where Republicans stop/impede traffic. Show us where Republicans are assaulting Democrat rally attendees. Show us Republicans smashing storefront windows and torching cars because their candidate did not win.

Which clearly has nothing to do with what you actually said. You said their hate keeps them out of office. Well, they're not out of office everywhere, and it's not their hate that keeps them out, but nice try anyway.