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I understand libs want to paint a doom and gloom picture in Iraq - you ignored the CNN video of the progress being made - as White Flag Harry bellowed 'the war is lost'
no...I am not painting a doom and gloom picture....I only ask that you answer this question:
Do you believe that an Iraqi army made up of sunnis, shiites and kurds will retain unit cohesiveness and will remain loyal to the government of Iraq after our departure and will not rapidly devolve into well trained militias for their own sects?
yes or no?
I only ask that you answer this question:
Do you believe that an Iraqi army made up of sunnis, shiites and kurds will retain unit cohesiveness and will remain loyal to the government of Iraq after our departure and will not rapidly devolve into well trained militias for their own sects?
yes or no?
are you capable of actually answering a simple yes or no question?
let me ask you this: if, when America does leave Iraq in, say, five years, do you think that Iraq will be completely devoid of our enemies?
That question is meaningless. Hell the United States is not "completely" devoid of our enemies. More importantly it is NOT the benchmark we are or should be shooting for.
Just as the war on Drugs and the War on Terror will never eradicate those things, the point is to make it so costly that these things are not considered safe to do. It is to protect our society.
RSR has a point, using the logic that we must totally eradicate our enemies before it is a success, why have police? Why have doctors? Why have Government at all?
Your insistance that this is the goal is idiotic. that if we don't reach this goal we have failed, your point of course being we can never reach that goal so we should just stop trying.
Have you read a book entitled The Arab Mind by Raphael Patai
yes or no?
you have no idea what my point is... so quit putting words in MY mouth, OK "sarge"? My point is.... we will never surrender to our enemies in Iraq even if we leave tomorrow. We will turn over military encampments and installations to the legitimate government of Iraq. Will there still be some bad guys there? sure. It does not mean that we surrendered to them, though, does it?
have you ever lived in an arab neighborhood with both sunnis and shiites in close proximity? yes or no?
Your being disengenous now. The iraq Government and Military/Police are not trained, equiped or prepared to do the job. You can not have it both ways, you can not cut and run and claim we accomplished our mission.
Have you been to Iraq? have you trained with or served with Iraq troops or police? have you lived in an Iraq town or city with both Sunni and Shiite in it?
If you have served with Iraq troops/police, when was that? Are you contending they are incapable of being trained?
Yes or no?
Will movement of civilian populations occur? Sure will, already has, BUT there have also been reports that Sunni and Shiite families have returned to areas they once didn't feel safe in.
why do you answer questions with questions? what are you hiding?
You have set up a strawman, claiming that only if you meet criteria you provide is your opinion valid. The premise you establish is false or misleading.
The one trying to HIDE something is not me.
Yes yes, I see, if YOU ask a question or establish a criteria, it is just to enable discussion, if someone else does it they are trying to "hide" something.
LMFAO ...this from a guy who NEVER answers ANY questions but feels perfectly justified in continuing to ask his own!
I know you are in a bad mood tonight
Your Dems are about to surrender to Pres Bush on their surrender bill
