ConservaDerrps
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I'm Jewish. I keep kosher in my home. I have two sets of dishes. One for meat and one for dairy, and another two sets of dishes on top of that for Passover. Judaism believes that therapeutic abortions, namely abortions performed in order to preserve the life of the mother are not only permissable but mandatory. The stage of pregnancy does not matter. Wherever there is a question of the life of the mother or that of the unborn child, Jewish law rules in favor of preserving the life of the mother. The status of the fetus as human life does not equal that of the mother. I have not asked you to adopt and adhere to my religious beliefs. Why are you asking me to adopt yours?
That is what Lisa Brown said.
Thanks. I was trying to find it myself. This helps put it into context for me.
She was debating against a bill which would ban abortion after 20 weeks unless the life of the mother is in danger.
I agree that on its face, it would seem she's got a bit of an inconsistent message. But I'd really like to look at the bill as a whole. It seems weird that she'd make that kind of gaffe unless there's something else too it. But maybe she didn't.
For me that's not the issue. The issue is whether there was any reason to censure her, and I don't think there was, at all. She didn't say "pussy" or "twat" or "snatch" or the C-word we're not allowed to use here. She said "Vagina." Was she being sarcastic? Yes. Was she being irreverent? Yes. Was she the first politician to use a less than respectful tone in the chambers of a Senate meeting? FUCK NO.
So this clearly is in accordance with her beliefs. Apparently she is too retarded to grasp that the law aligns perfectly with her stated beliefs.
You perhaps have a point there.
SHE BROUGHT UP HER BELIEFS. Not the state. She did. She was using HER FAITH to oppose the law.
Again, she may have based HER DECISION to vote yea or nay outside of her religious beliefs. I don't know that, and neither do you.
Except she is too retarded to understand that this law DOES NOT violate her faith. Yet she implied that it does, and that she is somehow better than them in her opposition.
There's probably more to it than that, and I'd love to actually hear her explanation of this issue, of her faith and the law. Is there more to that quote? Or maybe she gave another more in-depth interview. Someone in the media should definitely ask her for clarification.
She also is implying a law banning murder is a case of the state forcing religion on people.
I don't see that in the quote you provided, sorry.
So we should not ban murder because that is a religious belief?
Didn't North Dakota voters just vote down a law that was so ambiguous it could've been interpreted that way? Wasn't that bill written by Right Wing, pro-Religious groups? Just sayin'...the bullshit flows both ways.
And then she bizarrely brought up her vagina, making a rape accusation against the House Speaker.
You clearly don't get the joke, and that's fine.