VFW just sounds out on Trumps comments to the Khans

[kaz]

You really are a dick, aren't you? You don't just play one on message boards...

Yes, ma'm, I am. A professional military officer. In your eyes, a real "dick".

It used to be that only the Left Wing hated and disrespected our military personnel. Now both Left and Right Wing assholes do it.

No you stupid twat, I am insulting you, not the military. You really are stupid aren't you? You're a douche bag with no honor.

Is it your tiny penis you're compensating for saying that anyone who insults you insults the military?

And an officer? OK, now I know you're lying

Another Drumpf minion adding a military flavor to her personal insults. This Drumpf minion honesty is refreshing. Now we know how they REALLY feel about Americans who served this country.

No, it's what I'm saying about YOU. And yeah, you serviced the military, you mentioned that. I am calling you a liar, you have no military service. You are a queer and a woman I'm sure, but claiming military service in the way you do is another way to fabricate victimhood. I'm sure you'd claim to be a Muslim if you thought you could get away with it then cry over victimization for that too. You're handicapped to, aren't you? LOL. What a douche. You insulted me, that's insulting the military! Yeah.

OMG, you insulted me, that means you are insulting the entire US military. Sob. Here's a tissue.

I've never met an actual member of the military who sobbed and weeped like that and said to insult them is to insult anyone but them. You're a stupid bitch. bodecea is who I am calling a stupid bitch. Not anyone else. Here's another tissue ...

 

[Divine Wind]

You are a retired trash hauler who was one tick away from being dropped from flight school is probably closer to the truth. The only thing you ever fought in the military was boredom.

Disagree with his politics, but don't knock his service.

There are a lot of great war biographies and stories written by vets out there. One of them is Thomas Heggen's "Mr. Roberts". Heggen served 14 months during WWII in the thankless, "boring" but vital job as an officer aboard a supply ship sailing "from Tedium to Apathy and back again, with an occasional side trip to Monotony". A comment he made in his notes and later in the book. In the book, after Mr. Roberts was transferred to a warship headed for Japan, he wrote a letter back to his men: "Doc, I've been aboard this destroyer for two weeks now and we've already been through four air attacks. I'm in the war at last, Doc! I've caught up with that task force that passed me by. I'm glad to be here. I had to be here, I guess. But I'm thinking now of you, Doc,and you, Frank. And Dolan, and Dowdy, and Insigna and everyone else on that bucket. All the guys everywhere who sail from Tedium to Apathy and back again, with an occasional side trip to Monotony. This is a tough crew on here, and they have a wonderful battle record. But I've discovered, Doc, that the unseen enemy of this war is the boredom that eventually becomes a faith and, therefore, a terrible sort of suicide. l know now that the ones who refuse to surrender to it are the strongest of all. Right now I'm looking at something that's hanging over my desk. A preposterous hunk of brass attached to the most bilious piece of ribbon I've ever seen. I'd rather have it than the Congressional Medal of Honor. It tells me what I'll always be proudest of: That at a time in the world when courage counted most I lived among 62 brave men."


FWIW, Heggen committed suicide at age 30. Another American sacrificed on the alter of American freedom.

It took 10 men and women to support one man on the ground in Vietnam. Many of those jobs are outsourced now to rich corporations, but the jobs are still vital. I don't knock anyone who does their duty while serving their country. Most don't have much choice in their assignments but all are vital to the mission of their service.

 

[buckeye45_73]

You really are a dick, aren't you? You don't just play one on message boards...

Yes, ma'm, I am. A professional military officer. In your eyes, a real "dick".

It used to be that only the Left Wing hated and disrespected our military personnel. Now both Left and Right Wing assholes do it.

No you stupid twat, I am insulting you, not the military. You really are stupid aren't you? You're a douche bag with no honor.

Is it your tiny penis you're compensating for saying that anyone who insults you insults the military?

And an officer? OK, now I know you're lying

Another Drumpf minion adding a military flavor to her personal insults. This Drumpf minion honesty is refreshing. Now we know how they REALLY feel about Americans who served this country.

Really and how is that? How was this conclusion achieved?

 

[Divine Wind]

She didn't mean she did military service, she meant she serviced the military

Spoken just like an anti-military political fuckwad. You'd be a good Liberal. They hate the military too.

 

[kaz]

You really are a dick, aren't you? You don't just play one on message boards...

Yes, ma'm, I am. A professional military officer. In your eyes, a real "dick".

It used to be that only the Left Wing hated and disrespected our military personnel. Now both Left and Right Wing assholes do it.

No you stupid twat, I am insulting you, not the military. You really are stupid aren't you? You're a douche bag with no honor.

Is it your tiny penis you're compensating for saying that anyone who insults you insults the military?

And an officer? OK, now I know you're lying

Another Drumpf minion adding a military flavor to her personal insults. This Drumpf minion honesty is refreshing. Now we know how they REALLY feel about Americans who served this country.

Really and how is that? How was this conclusion achieved?

Being in the military overseas can get lonely. "Girls" like bodecea can help with that

 

[kaz]

She didn't mean she did military service, she meant she serviced the military

Spoken just like an anti-military political fuckwad. You'd be a good Liberal. They hate the military too.

You got punched in the face a lot when you were in the military, didn't you? Here's another tissue, have a good cry, girl friend.

You were getting away with your faux military service, then you got greedy. You had to go for being an officer. LOL, yeah

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

A fool is someone who doesn't try to avoid obvious danger.

So a Marine who jumps on a grenade to save his squad is a fool?

The Official United States Marine Corps Public Website > moh > Citation

LANCE CORPORAL WILLIAM KYLE CARPENTER
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS​

Medal of Honor Official Citation reads:

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as an Automatic Rifleman with Company F, 2d Battalion, 9th Marines, Regimental Combat Team 1, 1st Marine Division (Forward), I Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward), in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, in support of Operation Enduring Freedom on 21 November 2010. Lance Corporal Carpenter was a member of a platoon-sized coalition force, comprised of two reinforced Marine rifle squads partnered with an Afghan National Army squad. The platoon had established Patrol Base Dakota two days earlier in a small village in the Marjah District in order to disrupt enemy activity and provide security for the local Afghan population. Lance Corporal Carpenter and a fellow Marine were manning a rooftop security position on the perimeter of Patrol Base Dakota when the enemy initiated a daylight attack with hand grenades, one of which landed inside their sandbagged position. Without hesitation and with complete disregard for his own safety, Lance Corporal Carpenter moved toward the grenade in an attempt to shield his fellow Marine from the deadly blast. When the grenade detonated, his body absorbed the brunt of the blast, severely wounding him, but saving the life of his fellow Marine. By his undaunted courage, bold fighting spirit, and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of almost certain death, Lance Corporal Carpenter reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service.
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Oh, come on! How big of a moron do you expect us to think you are?

Lance Corporal Carpenter was a hero.

Now, what would you call him if he jumped on a live grenade while he was by himself? That would be a fool!

 

[bodecea]

Funny how you only give a shit about the military when it's self serving.

The guy didn't just state his view, he viciously attacked Trump. Whether you agree with what he said or not, Trump responding was certainly his right.

He could have made the point there are Muslims who are loyal to America without personally attacking Trump like that. And he did it in an ultra partisan venue, the DNC convention.

Trump had every right to respond

I'm a retired vet. Fail on your part.

You are a retired trash hauler who was one tick away from being dropped from flight school is probably closer to the truth. The only thing you ever fought in the military was boredom.

Ah....personal attacks when all else fails. Also, as an added bonus, a personal attack denigrating my military service. Bravo! What we are learning to expect from a good Drumpf minion.

I wasn't denigrating your service. That was probably closer to a compliment in your case!

She didn't mean she did military service, she meant she serviced the military

Ah...more military subject personal insults......Drumpf minions can't help themselves anymore.

 

[Divine Wind]

Oddly....no one suggested limiting immigration from Ireland or limiting immigration of catholics during The Troubles.

Probably had something to do with the facts we have a large Irish and Catholic population, had a revered Irish Catholic President and still a bit of resentment over the fucking Redcoats back in 1776, 1812 and their support for the CSA in 1861.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

The truth is that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with Khans being murdered by radical Muslims, crooked Hillary did.

Khan died in 2004. Remind us who was President then?

Hillary voted for the war, remember?

 

[bodecea]

A fool is someone who doesn't try to avoid obvious danger.

So a Marine who jumps on a grenade to save his squad is a fool?

The Official United States Marine Corps Public Website > moh > Citation

LANCE CORPORAL WILLIAM KYLE CARPENTER
UNITED STATES MARINE CORPS​

Medal of Honor Official Citation reads:

For conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty while serving as an Automatic Rifleman with Company F, 2d Battalion, 9th Marines, Regimental Combat Team 1, 1st Marine Division (Forward), I Marine Expeditionary Force (Forward), in Helmand Province, Afghanistan, in support of Operation Enduring Freedom on 21 November 2010. Lance Corporal Carpenter was a member of a platoon-sized coalition force, comprised of two reinforced Marine rifle squads partnered with an Afghan National Army squad. The platoon had established Patrol Base Dakota two days earlier in a small village in the Marjah District in order to disrupt enemy activity and provide security for the local Afghan population. Lance Corporal Carpenter and a fellow Marine were manning a rooftop security position on the perimeter of Patrol Base Dakota when the enemy initiated a daylight attack with hand grenades, one of which landed inside their sandbagged position. Without hesitation and with complete disregard for his own safety, Lance Corporal Carpenter moved toward the grenade in an attempt to shield his fellow Marine from the deadly blast. When the grenade detonated, his body absorbed the brunt of the blast, severely wounding him, but saving the life of his fellow Marine. By his undaunted courage, bold fighting spirit, and unwavering devotion to duty in the face of almost certain death, Lance Corporal Carpenter reflected great credit upon himself and upheld the highest traditions of the Marine Corps and the United States Naval Service.
​

Oh, come on! How big of a moron do you expect us to think you are?

Lance Corporal Carpenter was a hero.

Now, what would you call him if he jumped on a live grenade while he was by himself? That would be a fool!

Now you qualify your original statement........uh huh.

 

[Divine Wind]

Oh, come on! How big of a moron do you expect us to think you are?

I'm not the fucking anti-military asshole who wrote "A fool is someone who doesn't try to avoid obvious danger." Drop your politics and take it up with him.

 

[bodecea]

The truth is that Trump had absolutely nothing to do with Khans being murdered by radical Muslims, crooked Hillary did.

Khan died in 2004. Remind us who was President then?

Hillary voted for the war, remember?

Yes she did...as did Pence. I understand you Drumpf minions believe Clinton made the final vote all by herself.

 

[Vigilante]

• Former Trump Aide: Khan's Son Would Be Alive If Trump Were President
  The Hill ^ | August 1,2016 | Jesse Byrnes
  Donald Trump's former campaign manager on Monday said that Khizr Khan's son, Capt. Humayun Khan, would still be alive today if Trump had been president. Corey Lewandowski noted Trump's long-standing opposition to the War in Iraq, where Humayun Khan was killed by a suicide bomber in 2004.

 

[Divine Wind]

Hillary voted for the war, remember?

Correct. Fuck Hillary. Now, back to the asshole running for President who attacked the mother of an American hero for no reason at all.

Do you think Trump was right to attack Heidi Cruz? Do you think it's good leadership and Presidential for a person to do any of those things?

 

[Vigilante]

Hillary voted for the war, remember?

Correct. Fuck Hillary. Now, back to the asshole running for President who attacked the mother of an American hero for no reason at all.

Do you think Trump was right to attack Heidi Cruz? Do you think it's good leadership and Presidential for a person to do any of those things?

You talk about presidential when we have the current THUG in the White House.... I have a pen and a cell phone, and I have E.O.'s and NO ONE will stop me!

 

[bodecea]

• Former Trump Aide: Khan's Son Would Be Alive If Trump Were President
  The Hill ^ | August 1,2016 | Jesse Byrnes
  Donald Trump's former campaign manager on Monday said that Khizr Khan's son, Capt. Humayun Khan, would still be alive today if Trump had been president. Corey Lewandowski noted Trump's long-standing opposition to the War in Iraq, where Humayun Khan was killed by a suicide bomber in 2004.

We will never know, will we? But speculation can be fun.....how about this one: "None of us would be alive if Drumpf were President" Just as valid as yours.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Democratic Party uses a dead soldier as propaganda tool to elect Hillary. Just like they pushed "hands up don't shoot" lie that resulted in the deaths of police officers. Pile the bodies high for Hillary. Fucking disgusting campaign.

Yes they do, but Trump fucked himself on this one. There's a bit of logic for him to respond to Khan's remarks. Not politically astute, but logical. However, there was no reason for him to attack Khan's wife just like there was no reason for him to attack Cruz's wife nor his father. It's very unPresidential.

How exactly did Trump attack his wife? You keep saying it, but it never happened.

 

[S.J.]

Trump did not attack the muslim soldier or his family. An honest person can clearly see that by listening to his response. Democrats think if they tell us something that isn't true, people will automatically believe them. They insult the intelligence of the American people.

Well, this thread and the links in it, including the link in the OP, indicate that the furor over Trump's comments, with many calling his comments an attack, towards the parents of a war hero, are not relegated to Democrats. Disgust and outrage have been voiced by Republicans too. And now, the leader of the nation's largest war veterans group, representing 1.7 million war veterans has joined the furor and publicly denounced Trump. Trying to pin this furor on Democrats is simple misinformation and propaganda. The nation's largest war veterans organization, The Veterans of Foreign Wars abbreviated as the VFW, is not connected to the Democratic Party.

Let's see the source for your information.

The VFW National Commander's exact written comment are in the OP link, post #1 and another link is provided in post #20.

The comment was made by Brian Duffy, not 1.7 million members. I wasn't able to find much information about Duffy but I would be interested in knowing what his political affiliation is and which (if any) political party he donates to. I find it hard to believe a man in his position would fail to see that Khan was being used for political purposes. He very well could be using his position to help the Clinton campaign. Time will tell.

It was made on behalf of the VFW. End of story.

No, it was made on behalf of HIMSELF. End of story, asshole.

 

[bodecea]

Hillary voted for the war, remember?

Correct. Fuck Hillary. Now, back to the asshole running for President who attacked the mother of an American hero for no reason at all.

Do you think Trump was right to attack Heidi Cruz? Do you think it's good leadership and Presidential for a person to do any of those things?

You talk about presidential when we have the current THUG in the White House.... I have a pen and a cell phone, and I have E.O.'s and NO ONE will stop me!

Ah yes....the magically "THUG" word.